If you were going to have a 14 cheese omelette...
Karl Johanson
Karl Johanson
Scoop
: ...which 14 cheeses would you choose?
Fourteen ounces of truffled pecorino.
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Dorothy J Heydt
7 grams each of mild cheddar and Monterey Jack.
Dorothy J. Heydt
Albany, California
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Karl Johanson
> Quoth Karl Johanson:
> : ...which 14 cheeses would you choose?
>
> Fourteen ounces of truffled pecorino.
I was hoping I'd learn of a new type of cheese by asking this question.
Karl Johanson
Kip Williams
> I was hoping I'd learn of a new type of cheese by asking this question.
Red Leicester
Tilsit
Caerphilly
Bel Paese
Red Windsor
Stilton
Emmenthal
Gruyère
Norwegian Jarlsburg
Liptauer
Lancashire
White Stilton
Danish Blue
Double Gloucester
Cheshire
Dorset Blue Vinney (though said to be nearly extinct)
Brie
Roquefort
Pont l’Évêque
Port Salut
Savoyard
Saint-Paulin
Carré de l’Est
Bresse Bleu
Boursin
Camembert
Gouda
Edam
Caithness
Smoked Austrian
Japanese Sage Derby* (though Sage Derby exists)
Wensleydale
Greek Feta
Gorgonzola
Parmesan
Mozzarella
Pipo Crème
Danish Fynbo
Czech sheep’s milk (Abertam)
Venezuelan Beaver Cheese* (no beavers native to Venezuela!)
Cheddar
Ilchester
Limburger
You might recognize these as the types of cheese listed in the Cheese
Shop Skit from Monty Python's Flying Circus. I found this list at
http://www.curiousnotions.com/interesting-cheese.html along with this
short appendix:
Cheese: Connoisseur's Guide to the World's Best
by Max McCalman, David Gibbons
Belgioso Mascarpone Cheese
Cranberry Wensleydale
White Stilton Cheese
Castelmagno
Frantal Emmental Cheese
Limburger
I pass it along without comment.
Kip W
cheese whiz
Andrew Plotkin
It's not a well-tuned question, because fourteen interesting cheeses
thrown into the same omelette will make an undifferentiated cheesey
mass.
If you want to try one new kind of cheese today, ask for piave. Other
possibilities:
mimolette (recently recommended by a prominent SF editor)
umbraico (I think there's more than one form of this; I'm thinking
of the wine-cured one)
petit basque (comes as a mini-wheel sealed in wax)
Or look for a distinct variety of, say, cheddar. (E.g. Keen's,
Montgomery.) Don't taste like generic cheddar, or even generic sharp
cheddar.
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to be typed in news:lI2dnaHfXoQV7GTZ...@comcast.com:
> You might recognize these as the types of cheese listed in the Cheese
> Shop Skit from Monty Python's Flying Circus.
IIRC from the bonus contents of the DVD of "The Curse of the Were-Rabbit,"
the dairy which produces Wensleydale was saved from bankruptcy by a sudden
boost in popularity attributed to the Wallace and Gromit pictures.
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Kip Williams
> Here, Karl Johanson <karljo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>"Scoop" <no-...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>
>>>Quoth Karl Johanson:
>>>: ...which 14 cheeses would you choose?
>>>
>>>Fourteen ounces of truffled pecorino.
>>
>>I was hoping I'd learn of a new type of cheese by asking this question.
>
> It's not a well-tuned question, because fourteen interesting cheeses
> thrown into the same omelette will make an undifferentiated cheesey
> mass.
A sort of high-priced Velveeta.
Kip W
Karl Johanson
news:tKCdnc-EJc3WO2TZ...@comcast.com...
Ah. The substance well featured in Harvard Lampoon's Doon.
Karl Johanson
Karl Johanson
news:edc6i4$fq3$1...@reader2.panix.com...
> Here, Karl Johanson <karljo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> "Scoop" <no-...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>
>> > Quoth Karl Johanson:
>> > : ...which 14 cheeses would you choose?
>> >
>> > Fourteen ounces of truffled pecorino.
>>
>> I was hoping I'd learn of a new type of cheese by asking this
>> question.
>
> It's not a well-tuned question, because fourteen interesting cheeses
> thrown into the same omelette will make an undifferentiated cheesey
> mass.
Undifferentiated cheesy mass... Mmmmm... Actually, I not that some
cheese combos create a interesting combo taste, while others just come
out as a generic cheesy flavour. Getting 3 cheeses to not come out with
a generic cheese taste on an omelette is a challenge, so I figured 14 is
an interesting thing to strive for.
Yesterday I had an omelette with Havarti and Provolone.
> If you want to try one new kind of cheese today, ask for piave. Other
> possibilities:
Thank you.
> mimolette (recently recommended by a prominent SF editor)
> umbraico (I think there's more than one form of this; I'm thinking
> of the wine-cured one)
> petit basque (comes as a mini-wheel sealed in wax)
>
> Or look for a distinct variety of, say, cheddar. (E.g. Keen's,
> Montgomery.) Don't taste like generic cheddar, or even generic sharp
> cheddar.
I think I'll pop off to the cheese shop, then come home & make an
omelette.
Karl Johanson
Andy Leighton
Andrew Plotkin <erky...@eblong.com> wrote:
> Here, Karl Johanson <karljo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> "Scoop" <no-...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>
>> > Quoth Karl Johanson:
>> > : ...which 14 cheeses would you choose?
>> >
>> > Fourteen ounces of truffled pecorino.
>>
>> I was hoping I'd learn of a new type of cheese by asking this question.
>
> It's not a well-tuned question, because fourteen interesting cheeses
> thrown into the same omelette will make an undifferentiated cheesey
> mass.
>
> If you want to try one new kind of cheese today, ask for piave. Other
> possibilities:
>
> mimolette (recently recommended by a prominent SF editor)
> umbraico (I think there's more than one form of this; I'm thinking
> of the wine-cured one)
> petit basque (comes as a mini-wheel sealed in wax)
How about Cornish Yarg. It is coated with nettle leaves.
Or Caboc (a Scottish cheese) which is rolled in oatmeal.
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Robert Sneddon
<an...@azaal.plus.com> writes
>How about Cornish Yarg. It is coated with nettle leaves.
>Or Caboc (a Scottish cheese) which is rolled in oatmeal.
There's always Lanark Blue which comes wrapped in a lawsuit...
Back in the 90s a small Scottish dairy producer was making a blue
cheese with unpasteurised ewe's milk until the food safety inspectors
stepped in and shut down production on health grounds, citing a blanket
ban on sales of unpasteurised milk and milk products. It took several
years and a lawsuit for production to get started again.
If I ever win the lottery I'm going to buy a cow.
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I suspect it is flat out illegal to keep livestock in most urban areas.
Johan Larson
Paul Dormer
>
> Kip Williams <ki...@comcast.net> appears to have caused the following
> > letters to be typed in
> news:lI2dnaHfXoQV7GTZ...@comcast.com:
>
> > You might recognize these as the types of cheese listed in the
> > Cheese Shop Skit from Monty Python's Flying Circus.
>
> IIRC from the bonus contents of the DVD of "The Curse of the
> Were-Rabbit," the dairy which produces Wensleydale was saved from
> bankruptcy by a sudden boost in popularity attributed to the Wallace
> and Gromit pictures.
Whereas, I heard that the makers of Stinking Bishop, a type of cheese
that appears in the film, decided not to take on extra staff to meet
increased demand. They'd been doing OK before the film.
Jette Goldie
<johan....@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Mmmm, tricky one here in Scotland. The keeping of livestock
is usually forbidden by the "Feudal Burdens" of most urban
residential properties (as is building a tannery or oil refinery in
your garden or in a third floor flat), but since the Abolition of the
Feudal Conditions, passed a few years ago (one of the first
pieces of legislation to pass through the new Parliament at
Holyrood, btw), *feudal* conditions no longer necessarily
apply, unless they've been *reserved* as "neighbourhood
burdens". (one suspects that the neighbours would still want
you not to build a tannery or keep livestock - but did they
think to apply to have the burdens reserved?)
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Paul Ciszek
In article <OFI+DWJM...@nospam.demon.co.uk>,
Robert Sneddon <fr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Back in the 90s a small Scottish dairy producer was making a blue
>cheese with unpasteurised ewe's milk until the food safety inspectors
>stepped in and shut down production on health grounds, citing a blanket
>ban on sales of unpasteurised milk and milk products. It took several
>years and a lawsuit for production to get started again.
Does this mean that all other cheese made in the UK is made from
pasteurized milk? I thought only Americans tried to make "cheese"
(pasteurized cheese food product) from pasteurized milk.
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Marilee J. Layman
<oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
>Kip Williams <ki...@comcast.net> appears to have caused the following letters
>to be typed in news:lI2dnaHfXoQV7GTZ...@comcast.com:
>
>> You might recognize these as the types of cheese listed in the Cheese
>> Shop Skit from Monty Python's Flying Circus.
>
>IIRC from the bonus contents of the DVD of "The Curse of the Were-Rabbit,"
>the dairy which produces Wensleydale was saved from bankruptcy by a sudden
>boost in popularity attributed to the Wallace and Gromit pictures.
The Giant has a kind of Wensleydale with blueberries in it.
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mike weber
<boss...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
>Mmmm, tricky one here in Scotland. The keeping of livestock
>is usually forbidden by the "Feudal Burdens" of most urban
>residential properties (as is building a tannery or oil refinery in
>your garden or in a third floor flat),
Which puts me in mind of the scene in "The Commitments" when Jimmy
goes to talk to one of the girls about missing rehearsals; she lives
in a horrid featureless midrise block of Council housing. As Jimmy is
waiting for the lift, a kid walks up leading a horse.
Jimmy does a take, says "You're never goin' t' take that on the lift,
are ya?" And the kid (maybe 12) looks at him like he's soft, and says
"I have ta. Th' stairs'd kill him."
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<OFI+DWJM...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
fr...@nospam.demon.co.uk "Robert Sneddon" wrote:
There's a case reported in the current "Private Eye" about the
Intervention Board and milk quota.
I think they've been taking lessons from the RIAA.
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Paul Ciszek
In article <20060903.07...@zhochaka.org.uk>,
David G. Bell <db...@zhochaka.org.uk> wrote:
>On Saturday, in article
> <OFI+DWJM...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
> fr...@nospam.demon.co.uk "Robert Sneddon" wrote:
>
>> If I ever win the lottery I'm going to buy a cow.
>
>There's a case reported in the current "Private Eye" about the
>Intervention Board and milk quota.
>
>I think they've been taking lessons from the RIAA.
[*]
Andy Leighton
>
> In article <OFI+DWJM...@nospam.demon.co.uk>,
> Robert Sneddon <fr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Back in the 90s a small Scottish dairy producer was making a blue
>>cheese with unpasteurised ewe's milk until the food safety inspectors
>>stepped in and shut down production on health grounds, citing a blanket
>>ban on sales of unpasteurised milk and milk products. It took several
>>years and a lawsuit for production to get started again.
>
> Does this mean that all other cheese made in the UK is made from
> pasteurized milk?
Most is, but there are a quite a few unpasteurised cheeses for example
Stinking Bishop is unpasteurised. I would think that the dairy would
have to go through some kind of certification process and perform
regular tests. You should note that Scotland has its own legal system
and the laws are different there. In England and Wales it is still
legal to sell green-top milk (albeit with various conditions attached),
it has been illegal in Scotland since the mid 80s.
> I thought only Americans tried to make "cheese"
> (pasteurized cheese food product) from pasteurized milk.
Using pastuerised milk doesn't necessarily make the cheese bad - most
cheese eaten in France has been made from pasteurised milk. Is Pont
L'Eveque or Montsegur bad cheese because they are made with pasteurised
milk?
Jette Goldie
"mike weber" <fairp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmkkf2lhhq0tcj8mb...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:47:59 GMT, "Jette Goldie"
> <boss...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Mmmm, tricky one here in Scotland. The keeping of livestock
>>is usually forbidden by the "Feudal Burdens" of most urban
>>residential properties (as is building a tannery or oil refinery in
>>your garden or in a third floor flat),
>
> Which puts me in mind of the scene in "The Commitments" when Jimmy
> goes to talk to one of the girls about missing rehearsals; she lives
> in a horrid featureless midrise block of Council housing. As Jimmy is
> waiting for the lift, a kid walks up leading a horse.
>
> Jimmy does a take, says "You're never goin' t' take that on the lift,
> are ya?" And the kid (maybe 12) looks at him like he's soft, and says
> "I have ta. Th' stairs'd kill him."
That's Ireland for you - there really are horses being "pastured"
on the grassy bits in the middle of the road in parts of Dublin -
I was astounded when I saw that, I'd thought it was just a myth!
Alan Woodford
<boss...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
>
>"mike weber" <fairp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bmkkf2lhhq0tcj8mb...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:47:59 GMT, "Jette Goldie"
>> <boss...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Mmmm, tricky one here in Scotland. The keeping of livestock
>>>is usually forbidden by the "Feudal Burdens" of most urban
>>>residential properties (as is building a tannery or oil refinery in
>>>your garden or in a third floor flat),
>>
>> Which puts me in mind of the scene in "The Commitments" when Jimmy
>> goes to talk to one of the girls about missing rehearsals; she lives
>> in a horrid featureless midrise block of Council housing. As Jimmy is
>> waiting for the lift, a kid walks up leading a horse.
>>
>> Jimmy does a take, says "You're never goin' t' take that on the lift,
>> are ya?" And the kid (maybe 12) looks at him like he's soft, and says
>> "I have ta. Th' stairs'd kill him."
>
>
>That's Ireland for you - there really are horses being "pastured"
>on the grassy bits in the middle of the road in parts of Dublin -
>I was astounded when I saw that, I'd thought it was just a myth!
Not just Ireland. It's not uncommon to see horses grazing on any old
bit of open council land round here!
(sunny Tipton, for those fortunate enough to be familiar with the
area, but I suspect a lot of the owners would call Ireland home.)
And one of the crews at work whose job it is to clear up recently
vacated council houses can tell a tale or two of horses in kitchens
and living rooms.
Alan Woodford
The Greying Lensman
Dorothy J Heydt
Well, the rules are different in California, and when we first
moved to Albany (north of Berkeley for those who know California,
eastward across the Bay from San Francisco for those who don't)
we went to a City Council meeting which was entirely taken up by
debate over how to modify the animal-control regulations so that
a herd of angora goats could be permitted to graze on steep-sided
Albany Hill and keep the weeds down (to mitigate a severe fire
hazard). Everyone agreed that having the goats graze was a good
thing; but the existing regulations said that animals had to be
confined within pens, and there was no way you could put pens
(even the movable collapsible kind) on steep-sided Albany Hill,
upon which it was also impossible to use mowing machinery. Logic
was chopped and hairs were split all evening, at the end of which
some language was finally hammered out that allowed the goats to
do their thing.
Kevrob
> "Andrew Plotkin" <erky...@eblong.com> wrote in message
> news:edc6i4$fq3$1...@reader2.panix.com...
> > Here, Karl Johanson <karljo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> "Scoop" <no-...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> >>
> >> > Quoth Karl Johanson:
> >> > : ...which 14 cheeses would you choose?
> >> >
> > It's not a well-tuned question, because fourteen interesting cheeses
> > thrown into the same omelette will make an undifferentiated cheesey
> > mass.
>
> Undifferentiated cheesy mass... Mmmmm...
Y'know, if Wisconsin ever wants to replace "Forward" as the state
motto....
Kevin
(Behind the Cheddar Curtain)
Keith F. Lynch
> And one of the crews at work whose job it is to clear up recently
> vacated council houses can tell a tale or two of horses in kitchens
> and living rooms.
I can (just barely) imagine having a pet horse, but I can't imagine
forgetting it and leaving it behind when I move out.
(A pet elephant, maybe. Everyone knows it's easy to overlook an
elephant in a small room.)
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Kevrob
> Alan Woodford <al...@bortas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > And one of the crews at work whose job it is to clear up recently
> > vacated council houses can tell a tale or two of horses in kitchens
> > and living rooms.
>
> I can (just barely) imagine having a pet horse, but I can't imagine
> forgetting it and leaving it behind when I move out.
>
> (A pet elephant, maybe. Everyone knows it's easy to overlook an
> elephant in a small room.)
>
Maybe they took the horses with them, but left
behind.....uh...recognizable fewmets.
Kevin
Keith F. Lynch
> Mmmm, tricky one here in Scotland. The keeping of livestock is
> usually forbidden by the "Feudal Burdens" of most urban residential
> properties (as is building a tannery or oil refinery in your garden
> or in a third floor flat), but since the Abolition of the Feudal
> Conditions, passed a few years ago (one of the first pieces of
> legislation to pass through the new Parliament at Holyrood, btw),
Googling gets me "Report on Abolition of the Feudal System
(Scot Law Com No 168) which led to the Abolition of Feudal
Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000 ('the 2000 Act')."
Scotland abolished feudalism in the year 2000? *Boggle.*
Alan Woodford
Implausibly large numbers of fewmets, on occasion :-(
But to answer Keith, sometimes the owners just die, and we are left to
clear up - obviously if we find out there is livestock involved, we
call in the experts.
The horses in question aren't usually pets though, think of Hercules
from Steptoe and Son, but less well treated.
Wolfette
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
> Jette Goldie <boss...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
> > Mmmm, tricky one here in Scotland. The keeping of livestock is
> > usually forbidden by the "Feudal Burdens" of most urban residential
> > properties (as is building a tannery or oil refinery in your garden
> > or in a third floor flat), but since the Abolition of the Feudal
> > Conditions, passed a few years ago (one of the first pieces of
> > legislation to pass through the new Parliament at Holyrood, btw),
> > *feudal* conditions no longer necessarily apply, ...
>
> Googling gets me "Report on Abolition of the Feudal System
> (Scot Law Com No 168) which led to the Abolition of Feudal
> Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000 ('the 2000 Act')."
>
> Scotland abolished feudalism in the year 2000? *Boggle.*
"Feudalism" as applied to land law only. It was working well for us,
on
the whole, so why change it? (actually, it was widely recognised that
the Scottish system of land law was superior in many respects to the
English system). The "feudal conditions" were acting as a kind of
unofficial "zoning" system in the main - there were oddities like
Feudal Superiors who forbade the sale or consumption of alcohol
on any piece of land they feud (meaning your new grocer's shop
couldn't ever be a "licensed grocer's shop")(and technically you
might be forbidden to have a drink in your own home). Worked
very well up to the late 19th/mid 20th Century.
But yes, it did need updated, so Holyrood did so - and if the new
Scottish parliament at Holyrood didn't exist, I suspect that we'd
still be trying to get time at Westminster to get the MPs to sit
down and work through the various Bills.
Jette
Carol Hague
> Alan Woodford <al...@bortas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > And one of the crews at work whose job it is to clear up recently
> > vacated council houses can tell a tale or two of horses in kitchens
> > and living rooms.
>
> I can (just barely) imagine having a pet horse, but I can't imagine
> forgetting it and leaving it behind when I move out.
But apparently sometimes they get dumped on other people :-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/5314348.stm
"Four horses who mysteriously appeared in a Nottinghamshire man's garden
are being re-housed.
Phil Staples discovered the animals outside his home in Cotham near
Newark on Sunday morning."
But the bit that boggled me was :- "He rang the RSPCA and was told he
was technically responsible for the horses while they were there."
I mean, someone leaves four horses in your garden and *you're*
responsible for them? What? Sympathy for the poor abandoned horses of
course, but that seems a bit much.
--
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- The Doctor
Kip Williams
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/5314348.stm
>
> "Four horses who mysteriously appeared in a Nottinghamshire man's garden
> are being re-housed.
>
> Phil Staples discovered the animals outside his home in Cotham near
> Newark on Sunday morning."
>
> But the bit that boggled me was :- "He rang the RSPCA and was told he
> was technically responsible for the horses while they were there."
>
> I mean, someone leaves four horses in your garden and *you're*
> responsible for them? What? Sympathy for the poor abandoned horses of
> course, but that seems a bit much.
Four entire horses in a flowerbed? Sounds like the Mafia is sending him
one heck of a message.
Kip W
[Okay, I know that garden <> flowerbed. Please do not write in.]
Dorothy J Heydt
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Give them a tub of water to drink and don't let your kids stick
pins in them.
Karl Johanson
news:1hl5rst.hmjejba546niN%ca...@wrhpv.com...
> Keith F. Lynch <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>
>> Alan Woodford <al...@bortas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> > And one of the crews at work whose job it is to clear up recently
>> > vacated council houses can tell a tale or two of horses in kitchens
>> > and living rooms.
>>
>> I can (just barely) imagine having a pet horse, but I can't imagine
>> forgetting it and leaving it behind when I move out.
>
> But apparently sometimes they get dumped on other people :-
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/5314348.stm
>
> "Four horses who mysteriously appeared in a Nottinghamshire man's
> garden
> are being re-housed.
We had a chicken wind up in our yard. Don't think anyone dropped it off
though.
Karl Johanson
mike weber
wrote:
>Four entire horses in a flowerbed? Sounds like the Mafia is sending him
>one heck of a message.
Dunno about that, but i bet it cuts back on his bills for fertilisers
for a while...
mike weber
wrote:
>Keith F. Lynch <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>
>> Alan Woodford <al...@bortas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> > And one of the crews at work whose job it is to clear up recently
>> > vacated council houses can tell a tale or two of horses in kitchens
>> > and living rooms.
>>
>> I can (just barely) imagine having a pet horse, but I can't imagine
>> forgetting it and leaving it behind when I move out.
>
>But apparently sometimes they get dumped on other people :-
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/5314348.stm
>
>"Four horses who mysteriously appeared in a Nottinghamshire man's garden
>are being re-housed.
>
When we lived outside Dawsonville a few years ago, i wound up calling
the cops several times over horses wandering through our front yard
more than once - after a bout the third time, they Spoke Firmly to the
near-by person whose fences weren't nearly as secure as he thought.
I wouldn't have minded the horses, as they just sort of passed through
on their way to other places, bt the dog we had at that time took
their presence within a thousand ards of his yard as a personal
affront.
Noisily.
Dorothy J Heydt
mike weber <fairp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>When we lived outside Dawsonville a few years ago, i wound up calling
>the cops several times over horses wandering through our front yard
>more than once - after a bout the third time, they Spoke Firmly to the
>near-by person whose fences weren't nearly as secure as he thought.
Um, that's like, ... Taylor, _Chicken Every Sunday,_ in which a
lady living in Arizona in the early 20th century was pestered by
chickens who kept invading her vegetable garden. She'd complain
to their owner, who would say "Oh, sure, sorry, I'll pen them
in," and then wouldn't. Finally she built herself a chicken-coop
and told the guy, "The next time your chickens come into my
garden, I'm going to keep them," and was told "Absolutely, I'll
fix their fencing today," which he didn't. The chickens came
over, she impounded them and kept them. The neighbor didn't
complain, either. Maybe he really didn't want to have chickens.
Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing
As I may have mentioned before, Rosemary Taylor was some kind of relative
of mine on my mother's side. (Not through her mother, who appears in your
anecdote, but through her father, the Drachman after whom Drachman street
is Tucson was named. The family story in my family is that all the Drachmans
come from the same town in Germany.)
I found it amusing that Drachman - rename, oh well, and with any Jewishness
filed off - was played by Dan Dailey in the movie, which otherwise seemed to
jibe fairly well with my recollection of the book.
-- Alan
Dorothy J Heydt
Well, be fair. You have to read, not _CES_, but the sequel,
_Ridin' the Rainbow_, to find out that the family name was
Drachman at all. You have to read it painstakingly, too, because
it's only mentioned once. To find out that they were
German-Jewish, you have to look 'em up on the web. (Which I did
at one point.) And other than the name -- which as I said, I didn't
know was Jewish till I looked it up -- I'm at a loss to find any
indication of Jewishness in the portrayal of anybody in either book.
Can you point out some?
Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing
I have neither read, nor until this moment, heard of, _Ridin' the Rainbow_,
which I suppose I will now have to get hold of.
I don't, indeed, think there was any Jewishness portrayed in _CES_ -
although I vaguely recall some discussion about, mom's, uh, Episcopalianism
or something, and where they were going to church and whether Dad was
going to go - but I certainly can't disentangle in my head at this point a
book I read when I was 9 that I knew was about a cousin-or-something of my
Grandpa from what's actually _in_ the book. When I say "with any
Jewishness filed off" I mean filed off from the historical character, not
filed off from the portrayal in the book.
-- Alan
Dorothy J Heydt
Yes, but the initial filing-off seems to have been done by Taylor
herself, since I at least found none in the book. And it's
possible that Drachman was an agnostic of Jewish ethnicity who,
once on his own in America, abandoned not only his ancestral
religion but all the accompanying ancestral traditions along with
it: so that his daughter had little or nothing left to file off..
Remember, it was the era of the melting pot, and most of the
ethnic influences on young Drachman appear to have been Mexican.
Keith F. Lynch
> Kip Williams <ki...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Four entire horses in a flowerbed? Sounds like the Mafia is
>> sending him one heck of a message.
> Dunno about that, but i bet it cuts back on his bills for
> fertilisers for a while...
What's the use of that, if anything that grows in the fertilized soil
is promptly trampled into the mud?
Keith F. Lynch
> But the bit that boggled me was :- "He rang the RSPCA and was told he
> was technically responsible for the horses while they were there."
I doubt the RSPCA receptionist is an expert on the law.
What does "reponsible for" mean, anyway? That if they ran out into
traffic and caused an accident, he could be sued? What if he sold the
horses to a glue factory to prevent such a mishap?
Who would be responsible if he were out of town when the horses
invaded his property?
Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing
Which (Mexican) influences don't appear in Dan Dailey's portrayal, either.
Nothing against Dan Dailey, whom I've enjoyed in a number of movies and used
to like on "The Governor and JJ", but he is pretty darn whitebread.
I don't know that much about the historical character, other than that he
was some kind of a cousin, and he was of the same era as my great-grandfather,
the first American-born Orthodox rabbi. This doesn't require him to be played
by, y'know, Adrian Brody, but Dan Dailey has the same amount of ethnic flava
as Michael J. Fox.
-- Alan
Keith F. Lynch
> "Feudalism" as applied to land law only.
That's fortunate. When I was in Glasgow for the '95 Worldcon, it
really would have ruined my vacation had I been captured and sold
to some lord as a peasant.
Dorothy J Heydt
But if he'd left behind his ethnic flava himself... what are you
left with? Physical appearance. You know, "You don't look
Jewish," to which the only response is "What does Jewish look
like?" to which the answer is usually in the eye of the beholder.
Carol Hague
> Four entire horses in a flowerbed?
>Sounds like the Mafia is sending him
>one heck of a message.
Maybe he just has an admirer who's looking for a stable relationship....
Carol Hague
> Carol Hague <ca...@wrhpv.com> wrote:
> > But the bit that boggled me was :- "He rang the RSPCA and was told he
> > was technically responsible for the horses while they were there."
>
> I doubt the RSPCA receptionist is an expert on the law.
I suspect the people they have answering the phones at the RSPCA
probably know a bit about the law as it pertains to animals though.
> What does "reponsible for" mean, anyway? That if they ran out into
> traffic and caused an accident, he could be sued? What if he sold the
> horses to a glue factory to prevent such a mishap?
On the local news report, the chap invovled was busy picking all the
fruit from his fruit trees (of which he appeared to have several) in
case the horses ate them and got ill from it.
> Who would be responsible if he were out of town when the horses
> invaded his property?
I think he was, actually. The report said that he came back and found
his gate closed (the tone was that this is not how he would have
expected to find it) and the four horses on his (seemingly quite large)
lawn. Since I've yet to hear of a horse capable of closing gates (as
opposed to opening them, which does seem to happen) I doubt that they
"invaded" his property voluntarily. It wasn't clear how far away his
nearest neighbour is, or the likelihood of them noticing someone dumping
four horses "next door" but it seemed like a fairly rural area.
David G. Bell
<1hl5rst.hmjejba546niN%ca...@wrhpv.com> ca...@wrhpv.com
"Carol Hague" wrote:
He was lucky they weren't cows.
(On the plus side, they would have tracable ear-tags, and the BCMS at
Whitehaven have a very good reputation for competence. On the minus
side, you'd have to deal with the rest of DEFRA, and their reputation is
less than sterling.)
--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.
"I am Number Two," said Penfold. "You are Number Six."
Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing
Okay, but let me say this: Dan Dailey bears no family resemblance to me or to
my grandpa.
-- Alan
Robert Sneddon
<k...@KeithLynch.net> writes
>Wolfette <boss...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
>> "Feudalism" as applied to land law only.
>
>That's fortunate. When I was in Glasgow for the '95 Worldcon, it
>really would have ruined my vacation had I been captured and sold
>to some lord as a peasant.
You could always appeal to your own liege-lord for rescue. If you were
a runaway outlaw serf and forsworn then you shouldn't expect anybody
else to assist you.
--
To reply, my gmail address is nojay1 Robert Sneddon
Kip Williams
> Kip Williams <ki...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Four entire horses in a flowerbed?
>
>>Sounds like the Mafia is sending him
>>one heck of a message.
>
> Maybe he just has an admirer who's looking for a stable relationship....
Horse is a horse is a horse is a horse,
Of course, of course, of course, of course.
Kip W
Dorothy J Heydt
I'm sure he doesn't, but ... I haven't seen the movie and I've
never seen anything with Dan Dailey in it and I don't know what
he looks like. I'm going from the book here.
And if I were to see you, I probably wouldn't think "he looks
Jewish" either. See above.
Nancy Lebovitz
Andrew Plotkin <erky...@eblong.com> wrote:
>Here, Karl Johanson <karljo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> "Scoop" <no-...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>
>> > Quoth Karl Johanson:
>> > : ...which 14 cheeses would you choose?
>> >
>> > Fourteen ounces of truffled pecorino.
>>
>> I was hoping I'd learn of a new type of cheese by asking this question.
>
>It's not a well-tuned question, because fourteen interesting cheeses
>thrown into the same omelette will make an undifferentiated cheesey
>mass.
I don't have the 14 cheeses in mind, but I'm pretty sure that they
should be laid out in order in the omelette, with a bit of red pepper
or somesuch to tell you which end to start at.
I recommend Arina cheese as a nice and not terribly famous.
--
Nancy Lebovitz http://www.nancybuttons.com
http://nancylebov.livejournal.com
My two favorite colors are "Oooooh" and "SHINY!".
Karl Johanson
news:edoj5o$hc9$1...@reader2.panix.com...
> In article <edc6i4$fq3$1...@reader2.panix.com>,
> Andrew Plotkin <erky...@eblong.com> wrote:
>>Here, Karl Johanson <karljo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> "Scoop" <no-...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > Quoth Karl Johanson:
>>> > : ...which 14 cheeses would you choose?
>>> >
>>> > Fourteen ounces of truffled pecorino.
>>>
>>> I was hoping I'd learn of a new type of cheese by asking this
>>> question.
>>
>>It's not a well-tuned question, because fourteen interesting cheeses
>>thrown into the same omelette will make an undifferentiated cheesey
>>mass.
>
> I don't have the 14 cheeses in mind, but I'm pretty sure that they
> should be laid out in order in the omelette, with a bit of red pepper
> or somesuch to tell you which end to start at.
Laid out in order around the omelette. Now there's an idea. Maybe with
some overlap between sections. Maybe with some mushrooms & dice zucchini
from the garden... I might try on the weekend & see if I can post a
photo.
> I recommend Arina cheese as a nice and not terribly famous.
Will keep an eye out for it. I got some German butter cheese. It's good,
but doesn't grate well.
Karl Johanson
Wilson Heydt
Keith F. Lynch <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>Jette Goldie <boss...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
>> Mmmm, tricky one here in Scotland. The keeping of livestock is
>> usually forbidden by the "Feudal Burdens" of most urban residential
>> properties (as is building a tannery or oil refinery in your garden
>> or in a third floor flat), but since the Abolition of the Feudal
>> Conditions, passed a few years ago (one of the first pieces of
>> legislation to pass through the new Parliament at Holyrood, btw),
>> *feudal* conditions no longer necessarily apply, ...
>
>Googling gets me "Report on Abolition of the Feudal System
>(Scot Law Com No 168) which led to the Abolition of Feudal
>Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000 ('the 2000 Act')."
>
>Scotland abolished feudalism in the year 2000? *Boggle.*
Yeah....Why so soon?
--
Hal Heydt
Albany, CA
My dime, my opinions.