Freaking the fans
Laurie D. T. Mann@Get Online!
incident.
Midwestcon is the prototypical relaxacon, with about 180 people, a pool
and a couple of con suites. While there were little bits of programming
this year (FanHistoriCon was run in conjunction with Midwestcon), the main
feature of Midwestcon is relaxing.
Since it's a small con, we shared the hotel on Saturday night with a boisterous
wedding party. How boisterous was it?
When kids from Midwestcon (about five kids between the ages of 10 & 15)
"crashed" the wedding reception, instead of being thrown out the kids
were given wedding cake.
Shortly thereafter, most of the tuxedoed wedding party wound up in
the pool. (They were trying to dump the groom in the pool.
They succeeded, but most of the rest of the folks followed him in.)
Some Midwestcon people breathed a sigh of relief when they realized that
the fans were not the rowdies at this hotel----it was the mundanes!
Laurie Mann * lm...@telerama.lm.com * http://worcester.lm.com/lmann/index.html
MaiaCowan
are far rowdier than we fans. Fans generally look a lot stranger than the
mundanes, but we behave better. After all, we loosen up our inhibitions on
a regular basis, instead of all at once on rare occasions, and we also see
the same people the next time we go to a con, who will most certainly not
let us forget it if we make bloody fools of ourselves.
Of course, it's not always true that fans look stranger than the mundanes.
One year that Contraption shared the hotel with a wedding, Mary Kay
Jackson complimented a woman on her masquerade costume--only to find out
she was with a wedding party. Another year, all us freaky fans stood
around muttering, "What ARE their mothers thinking?" about the
prepubescent girls at the party across the lobby, in strapless black
dresses and high heels. We were no less scandalized by the premature
sexuality as confounded about how they kept the tops up. . . .
Ben Zuhl
clothes were trashed. My first thought was whether it was fans that
did it or not. My second was wondering where my two boys were. It
turned out to be done by other members of the wedding party. My, how
things have changed while we were out of the country.
--BenZ
MaiaCowan
respectable the group, the rowdier they are when they get away from
home... One of the reasons we decided not to attend InConJunction (besides
deciding MidWestCon would be more fun) is we heard the Kiwanis would also
be in the hotel.
Sometimes, however, simultaneous conventions are fortuitous. Several years
back Contraption (here in SE Mich) shared a hotel with MENSA. We opened
the hucksters room to them, to the infinite jingling delight of the
hucksters, and they shared their ice cream with us. It was great.
Janice Gelb
A Deep South Con many eons ago shared a hotel with a firefighters
convention. DSC was a little short on their room-night guarantee and
the chair had the brilliant idea to ask a few of the firefighters (the
politer ones in the crowd who had been asking who we were) if they
would tell the hotel they were with our convention and in return, they
could get free beer in the con suite. Through careful selection, we got
our room guarantee and the fire fighters got beer!
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MaiaCowan
block. Ironic, that. I used to work with a volunteer firefighter who would
tell me hair-raising stories of the way his buddies caroused when away
from home...including one man who was so drunk he fell off a firetruck
during a parade and was run over...plus the usual assortment of
furniture-out-the-window, firecrackers-down-the-elevator-shaft,
water-balloons-down-the-hall tales. Well, his convention ended up in the
same hotel as a Marcon, and when he ran into me he had the nerve to tell
me the FANS were weird!
[This was the same Marcon where the con chair convinced the hotel manager
that of course we would all behave ourselves like model citizens because
we all knew each other as dear friends and wouldn't want to be reminded
later of idiotic behavior, and proved the point by greeting by name the
next 7 or so people to wander up. The hotel manager never "clicked" that
everybody was wearing name badges, and Mark really hadn't a clue who those
people were.]
Gary Farber
>We were at Midwestcon over the weekend, and heard of a "freaking the fans"
>incident.
>Midwestcon is the prototypical relaxacon, with about 180 people, a pool
>and a couple of con suites. While there were little bits of programming
>this year (FanHistoriCon was run in conjunction with Midwestcon), the main
>feature of Midwestcon is relaxing.
> When kids from Midwestcon (about five kids between the ages of 10 & 15)
> "crashed" the wedding reception, instead of being thrown out the kids
> were given wedding cake.
> Shortly thereafter, most of the tuxedoed wedding party wound up in
> the pool. (They were trying to dump the groom in the pool.
> They succeeded, but most of the rest of the folks followed him in.)
>Some Midwestcon people breathed a sigh of relief when they realized that
>the fans were not the rowdies at this hotel----it was the mundanes!
Shades of the Secret Handgrip of Fandom. By the way, Laurie, am I _ever_
going to get any written (or otherwise) information re "The Timebinders,"
as we discussed at the DC Corflu last year? Or is this a closed group so
as to accomplish. . . what? Moshe Feder was also wondering, though I
certainly don't speak for him.
-GF
Laurie D. T. Mann@Get Online!
> Shades of the Secret Handgrip of Fandom. By the way, Laurie, am I _ever_
> going to get any written (or otherwise) information re "The Timebinders,"
> as we discussed at the DC Corflu last year? Or is this a closed group so
> as to accomplish. . . what? Moshe Feder was also wondering, though I
> certainly don't speak for him.
Sorry about that. We've been excessivly "laid back" about the organization.
There's been some discussion about getting more organized (at least enough
to pub an occassional ish for interested folks). We'd like to use
the Internet as much as possible to spur discussion and collect data,
but it's been pretty slow going so far. Some of us would also like some
nominal dues ($5-$10 a year) to be able to print and mail out a periodic
newsletter to all members.
We actually have made some progress over the last year:
Timebinders Summer 1995 Report
The Assistant Chief Nudge presents a status report - let
me (lm...@telerama.lm.com)
know if you have other projects that you're working on.
Dick Lynch (6/24/95)
Continued writing and presented a draft of the Fandom in the '60s
book at Midwestcon
Laurie Mann (6/27/95)
Fall '94---put notes from FanHistoriCon online, started the
Timebinders Web site.
Winter '95---offered use of scanner for fanzine scanning project.
Joyce Scrivner (6/27/95)
o I've interviewed a fan for Dick's history (Floyd Henderson who went to
Canada rather than get drafted), though I haven't written it up yet.
I've got commitments from several others to talk (Jim Young, Ruth
Berman, Ken Fletcher, ... .)
o I've got money from MinnStf for the Redd Bogg's history of Minneapolis
Fantasy Society. (Currently planned to be issued for next Minicon
as part of a two volume Rune publication.)
o I've got tentative plans to reprint the Atom TAFF report. (And I've
got some questions about this: what do you people think about adding
some single paragraphs from friends as a memorial to Atom?
what about adding some photos?) This would be done for LACon next year.
o I've got money and time committed to doing a 'Minneapolis' display for
Intersection this year. (To go along with the Glascow and Dusseldorf
displays). This is currently being worked on.
o I'm working on putting together a series of displays for next year at
LACon on the fan funds. Together with this would be a binder(s)
containing extant fan fund reports for people to read/look through.
o And there is the Minicon thing, ... . (I'd rather wait until other
people talk about this, first, okay?)
Leah & Dick Smith
Programmed FanHistoriCon at Midwestcon 1995.
And, as always, the Timebinders Site is at
http://worcester.lm.com/lmann/timebinders/tbstart.html
Again, my apologies to anyone who expected material if I haven't
followed through. Please send me mail to remind me because I might
have forgotten otherwise.
Bernard Peek
one of the Beccons. The hotel management had an unfortunate
"misunderstanding" and double-booked some of the facilities. This
included letting the bridal couple have a suite.
We shared the hotel quite amicably. Beccon wasn't the sort of con
where we had people wearing costumes or breaking up furniture. We just
sat around the lake and drank. Then we sat some more and had another
drink. All this sitting around was exhausting, so we sat down and had
a drink to recover.
One of the high points of the Beccons was the firework display. This
was a tasteful affair accompanied by suitable mood music -- Ride of
the Valkries, the theme from Apocalypse Now etc.
The end of the show was a little device called "Bikini Atoll Rides
Again". This was a traffic-cone upended in the ground and filled with
whatever pyrotechnics came to hand. Black powder, flash-powder etc.
It's my understanding that the firework team timed this, ummm,
climax of the show to ensure maximum entertainment for the newlyweds.
They made the earth move.
--
Bernard Peek
I.T and Management Development Trainer to the Cognoscenti
(In search of Cognoscenti.)
b...@intersec.demon.co.uk
EMERSOND
>Sometimes, however, simultaneous conventions are fortuitous. Several years
>back Contraption (here in SE Mich) shared a hotel with MENSA. We opened
>the hucksters room to them, to the infinite jingling delight of the
>hucksters, and they shared their ice cream with us. It was great.
My favorite example of this was the 1975 Disclave, when the other major
group in the hotel was SPEBSQSA, the Society for the Preservation and
Encouragement of Barber Shop Quartet Singing in America. As we fans roamed
the floors looking for room parties, we would hear these wonderful harmonies
echoing down the hallways. Rounding a corner (there were *many* corners in
the Sheraton Park Plaza), we would come upon an open-doored hotel room with
a quartet in mid-song, and a lot of wives and other barbershoppers sitting &
standing around listening in appreciation. We would stop and listen, too, and
when they were done, we would smile at them and they would smile at us and
we'd all smile at each other. Then we'd continue on our quest for fannish
room parties.
Come to think of it, though, there was one downside to it. That was the year
we performed THE MIMEO MAN at Disclave, and someone in the audience told me
they had seen some SPEBSQSA folks poke their heads in about the time of the
"Lida Rose" scene, and shook their heads in dismay at the amateur job our
fannish quartet was doing.
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
David Emerson Come to ReinCONation!
(one of the Minneapolis Davids) October 13-15 1995, Minneapolis
GoHs: Judith Merril, Andy Hooper
Dick Smith
% We were at Midwestcon over the weekend, and heard of a "freaking the fans"
% incident.
% Midwestcon is the prototypical relaxacon...
% ... most of the tuxedoed wedding party wound up in
% the pool. (They were trying to dump the groom in the pool.
% They succeeded, but most of the rest of the folks followed him in.)
One of the wedding party wandered into the Australia in '99 party,
trying to figure out what the heck we were. He'd seen some con flyers
on the freebie table, and said he had been to a couple of gaming
conventions. He also said that he'd liked a ten volume sci-fi novel
he'd read, although he was too drunk to remember the author's name!
Several of us took turns trying to explain fandom, Worldcon bidding, and
why we were different from gamers, etc., to him. It worked about as
well as it does in this newsgroup. We didn't get him to presupport
Australia in '99, either.
--
Dick Smith di...@smith.chi.il.us
office: Sm...@ivsystems.roundlake.baxter.com
Janice Murray
moving out as the librarians' convention was moving in. There
were a lot of great conversations in the lobby and many of us
were late getting home.
Chad Childers
>Preservation and Encouragement of Barber Shop Quartet Singing in America.
HAH! This sounds fantastic... or maybe I just think so because I'm a gafiated
Barbershopper.
>when they were done, we would smile at them and they would smile at us and
>we'd all smile at each other. Then we'd continue on our quest for fannish
I can see that... barbershoppers are a pretty easy group to get along with.
It's the "music is a wonderful thing" mindset. And we'd *never* have gotten
complaints about singing outside the consuite ourselves, as happened at a
recent WindyCon.
>they had seen some SPEBSQSA folks poke their heads in about the time of the
>"Lida Rose" scene, and shook their heads in dismay at the amateur job our
>fannish quartet was doing.
Heheheheh.
--
/* Chad Childers */ http://grimmy.cnidr.org/chad.html
Seth Breidbart
Chad Childers <ch...@quality.ta.ford.com> wrote:
>>the other major group in the hotel was SPEBSQSA, the Society for the
>>Preservation and Encouragement of Barber Shop Quartet Singing in America.
>I can see that... barbershoppers are a pretty easy group to get along with.
>It's the "music is a wonderful thing" mindset. And we'd *never* have gotten
>complaints about singing outside the consuite ourselves, as happened at a
>recent WindyCon.
We might still have; those folks don't think a key is only something
you unlock a door with.
Seth
Jeffrey McArthur
Does anyone remember the hotel mix-up at the New Orleans Sheraton during
NolaCon 2? They -Hotel Ops.- Did'nt bother to inform anyone from either group
that the Southern Baptist Convention was going to be sharing space I.E. rooms,
elevators and the like with each other until it was too late.
It was rather amusing though, I'm certain that the Baptist folk all
thought the
Apocalypse had arrived with a vengance! :) :)
Berni Phillips
: From: Jean McArthur a.k.a. Techno-Widow
: Does anyone remember the hotel mix-up at the New Orleans Sheraton during
: NolaCon 2? They -Hotel Ops.- Did'nt bother to inform anyone from either group
: that the Southern Baptist Convention was going to be sharing space I.E. rooms,
: elevators and the like with each other until it was too late.
I remember that! We were traveling and would not have been reachable
anyway. In fact, at the last minute, we shortened our stay by one night,
which was fortunate, because that was the extra night the Baptists were
staying over.
What was most amazing about these people was the tremendous amount of
luggage they all had. (My husband was convinced they were carrying
baptismal founts.) And they all seemed to have afghans (the knit or
crocheted kind, not the dog) as well, which was odd considering how
hot it was.
Berni
MaiaCowan
is that all the Baptists decided to stay over an extra day, so the Nolacon
members' rooms weren't available when reserved.
I remember standing at the desk insisting, "I have a bad back and our
roommate DOCTOR Harding is 5 months pregnant and neither of us is going
to either sleep on the floor or walk blocks to the convention, so you WILL
give us the room we have guaranteed on my credit card, here's the
confirmation number, thank you." I think it was the DOCTOR Harding that
prevailed. It's possible to bully hotels into honoring their commitments
if you know what strings to pull.
Dr Gafia
(MaiaCowan) writes:
>I remember standing at the desk insisting, "I have a bad back and our
>roommate DOCTOR Harding is 5 months pregnant and neither of us is going
>to either sleep on the floor or walk blocks to the convention, so you
WILL
>give us the room we have guaranteed on my credit card, here's the
>confirmation number, thank you." I think it was the DOCTOR Harding that
>prevailed. It's possible to bully hotels into honoring their commitments
>if you know what strings to pull.
True. The "bad back" and "5 months pregnant" are nice touches too, as in
"if you aggrevate our already existing conditions through failure to meet
your legal obligations, we might sue your hotel". But a pity, of course,
that you sometimes "have to" bully hotels just to get what they promised.
--rich brown a.k.a. Dr. Gafia
Seth Breidbart
But when you have to, it helps to know how.
Many Lunacons ago, the Sheraton Hasbrook Heights got some other group
in, at much higher room rates, so they decided to bump Lunacon members
to another hotel they owned. They generously provided a shuttle
between hotels, once per hour. Since I'd known I'd be arriving in the
early afternoon, I didn't bother to guarantee my reservation, so when
I arrived, the front desk clerk informed me that I was being bumped to
the other hotel. I did not find this acceptable.
I went to a pay phone in the lobby, and called Sheraton's 800 number.
I told them that I had a reservation that night for the Hasbrook
Height Sheraton, and that I wanted to guarantee it for late arrival on
my American Express Card. They thought this was a perfectly
reasonable thing to do, so I read them the card number.
I then went back to the front desk and explained that they had to give
me a room in that hotel, else it would cost them money. They did.
Seth
Janice Gelb
>is that all the Baptists decided to stay over an extra day, so the Nolacon
>members' rooms weren't available when reserved.
>
>roommate DOCTOR Harding is 5 months pregnant and neither of us is going
>to either sleep on the floor or walk blocks to the convention, so you WILL
>give us the room we have guaranteed on my credit card, here's the
>confirmation number, thank you." I think it was the DOCTOR Harding that
>prevailed. It's possible to bully hotels into honoring their commitments
>if you know what strings to pull.
I invoked the "bad back" strategy recently at a professional conference
when, arriving the day before the conference, I was told that all regular
rooms had been booked but they would be glad (at $150 a night!) to give
me a "parlor room, with all the same amenities as a regular room except
a sofa bed substituted for the regular bed." The room I ended up getting
was about 6 feet from the sidewalk and traffic, but it least it had a
regular bed...
Loren Joseph MacGregor
shared space with a convention of Southern Baptists, she added:
> It was rather amusing though, I'm certain that the Baptist folk all
> thought the Apocalypse had arrived with a vengance! :) :)
Actually, I talked to several of them and they thought it was great fun.
Baptists aren't as humorless as you seem to think. I remember a time,
many years before, when a convention shared facilities with a bowlers
conventions, a PTA convention, a bunch of poker players, a kludge of
Kaiser-Frasier owners and a gospel-singers' convention. I was mightily
amused to see one of these groups dash through the lobby, stop in
formation, and say, in unison, "Hi! We're Mighty Clouds of Joy!" before
flinging themselves off to somewhere else.
Jeffrey McArthur
Hey, don't get me wrong; I met my husband Jeff at NolaCon's Christian
Fandom panel that was moderated by our favorite aardvark, Ross Pavlac. I
did'nt have anything against the group itself; it was a few incidents of
unintentional [?] humor
when some of the older members of the congregation saw how most of the fans
were dressed and that at first most of them did not have the foggiest idea
of what was going on.
One story I have to tell though; I'm certain many of us remember the
fiasco with the
elevators at the Sheraton, broken down half the time and never going to the
level
you need to get to without getting a nosebleed from racing up and down
floors of the hotel; Okay, so I was standing there in front of the
elevators about mezzanine level
and there is also waiting a group of about 4 or 5 older/elderly ladies of
the Baptist
group, we wait and wait getting really frustrated when all of a sudden this
fellow walks around the corner and I thought these dear ladies were going
to keel over like a row of dominoes! The guy was about 6' 6" easily and
dressed entirely in black,
shirt, jacket, tie, pants, socks, everything black. Here atop his very pale
brow, this guy had glued a set of 2 red horns just below his hairline!!
I really did feel sorry for these ladies, but it was one of the things
that should have been on 'Candid Camera' or 'America's Funniest Videos' it
was the kind of stunt you
think happens only on these kind of shows.
Sorry for rambling on so long, Live Long & Prespire, Jeanie Mc.
Leah Zeldes Smith
maia...@aol.com (MaiaCowan) writes:
>>>It's possible to bully hotels into honoring their commitments
>>>if you know what strings to pull.
Seth Breidbart, se...@panix.com writes:
>But when you have to, it helps to know how.
>
>Many Lunacons ago, the Sheraton Hasbrook Heights got some other group
>in, at much higher room rates, so they decided to bump Lunacon members
>to another hotel they owned. They generously provided a shuttle
>between hotels, once per hour. Since I'd known I'd be arriving in the
>early afternoon, I didn't bother to guarantee my reservation, so when
>I arrived, the front desk clerk informed me that I was being bumped to
>the other hotel. I did not find this acceptable.
>
>I went to a pay phone in the lobby, and called Sheraton's 800 number.
>I told them that I had a reservation that night for the Hasbrook
>Height Sheraton, and that I wanted to guarantee it for late arrival on
>my American Express Card. They thought this was a perfectly
>reasonable thing to do, so I read them the card number.
>
>I then went back to the front desk and explained that they had to give
>me a room in that hotel, else it would cost them money. They did.
We got our room in the Sheraton at Nolacon simply by brandishing our
American Express card, on which we'd guaranteed our room. I don't know
what Amex's deal with hotels is, but certainly that seems to put the
fear of God into them.
Isn't there a former Disclave hotel that had their Amex account yanked
because of screwing up guaranteed reservations?
Anyway, I highly recommend guaranteeing all room reservations with Amex,
whether you mean to pay that way or not.
--
Leah Smith le...@smith.chi.il.us
Arthur Hlavaty
Leah Zeldes Smith <le...@smith.chi.il.us> wrote:
>We got our room in the Sheraton at Nolacon simply by brandishing our
>American Express card, on which we'd guaranteed our room. I don't know
>what Amex's deal with hotels is, but certainly that seems to put the
>fear of God into them.
>
>Isn't there a former Disclave hotel that had their Amex account yanked
>because of screwing up guaranteed reservations?
>
>Anyway, I highly recommend guaranteeing all room reservations with Amex,
>whether you mean to pay that way or not.
I've heard it happened with Hospitality (Hostility) House, which
thoroughly botched room reservations the one year Disclave was there.
--
Arthur D. Hlavaty hla...@panix.com
Church of the SuperGenius In Wile E. We Trust
Bernard Peek
le...@smith.chi.il.us "Leah Zeldes Smith" writes:
> maia...@aol.com (MaiaCowan) writes:
>
> >>>It's possible to bully hotels into honoring their commitments
> >>>if you know what strings to pull.
>
> Seth Breidbart, se...@panix.com writes:
> >But when you have to, it helps to know how.
> We got our room in the Sheraton at Nolacon simply by brandishing our
> American Express card, on which we'd guaranteed our room. I don't know
> what Amex's deal with hotels is, but certainly that seems to put the
> fear of God into them.
>
> Isn't there a former Disclave hotel that had their Amex account yanked
> because of screwing up guaranteed reservations?
The Metropole Hotel (Conspiracy 1987) refused to let someone charge
drinks to their room account, which they were paying with Amex.
That decision got reversed very quickly. I understand that the reason
it got changed so quickly is that the card belonged to an Amex
employee who phoned their office, who then phoned Amex (UK) who are
based about a quarter mile from the Metropole.
Last year I was working for the ad agency that handles the Amex
account. This is the sort of thing that Amex wants to be known for, so
they want to be *seen* to be tough on hotels.
> Anyway, I highly recommend guaranteeing all room reservations with Amex,
> whether you mean to pay that way or not.
> --
> Leah Smith le...@smith.chi.il.us
Danny Low
: We got our room in the Sheraton at Nolacon simply by brandishing our
: American Express card, on which we'd guaranteed our room. I don't know
: what Amex's deal with hotels is, but certainly that seems to put the
: fear of God into them.
: Isn't there a former Disclave hotel that had their Amex account yanked
: because of screwing up guaranteed reservations?
This is why hotels fear AmEx. They will pull their account. VISA/MC
cannot do that as accounts are handled by individual banks and the
hotel can simply go to another bank. AmEx is the primary card of
business travellers. Business travellers pay full rates unlike
fen who get really cheap con rates. You cannot appreciate how cheap
SF con rates are until you see what professional cons rates are.
Business travellers use hotel room service. Business travellers use
hotel laundry services. Business travellers have expense accounts and
eat accordingly. No fries at 2AM like fen. Business concoms have real
budgets unlike SF cons. When I was running registration for an ACM con I could
actually hire people to handle registration rather than scrounge
for volunteers. In fact we could have hired out the entire registration
effort to a professional con running company. What a difference from running
registration for SF cons! We had the hotel catered lunches with liquor
service. Of course we were charging $700 per attendee. :-) So hotels are
very careful not to lose their AmEx account.
Danny Low
"Question Authority and the Authorities will question You"
Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley
HP NSD dl...@ppg01.sc.hp.com
Mary Kay Kare
If you've guaranteed with Amex and they give you the sold out story,
_you_ can call Amex and they'll jump all over the hotel. Worked for
me at Nolacon too. In fact it got us a very nice room on the
concierge floor at the convention rate...
MK
Marty Helgesen
<10222...@CompuServe.COM> says:
>
>A handy thing to know is that this isn't limited to Amex employees.
>If you've guaranteed with Amex and they give you the sold out story,
>_you_ can call Amex and they'll jump all over the hotel. Worked for
-------
Marty Helgesen
Bitnet: mnhcc@cunyvm Internet: mn...@cunyvm.cuny.edu
"Crossbows don't kill people. Quarrels kill people."
Seth Breidbart
Marty Helgesen <MN...@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> wrote:
>In article <3vek0n$shi$1...@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>, Mary Kay Kare
><10222...@CompuServe.COM> says:
>>
>>A handy thing to know is that this isn't limited to Amex employees.
>>If you've guaranteed with Amex and they give you the sold out story,
>>_you_ can call Amex and they'll jump all over the hotel. Worked for
>
>Does this work with other major credit cards, or just AMEX?
It works best with AmEx. Other credit cards might offer the same
guarantee, but the hotels don't seem to care as much. AmEx will also
pay off on the guarantee if the hotel fails to, and do it rather
easily; I don't know how easy it is to force MasterCard or VISA to do
so.
Seth
mark
be...@netcom.com (Berni Phillips) wrote:
> Jeffrey McArthur (j_mca...@bix.com) wrote:
> : From: Jean McArthur a.k.a. Techno-Widow
>
> : Does anyone remember the hotel mix-up at the New Orleans Sheraton during
> : NolaCon 2? They -Hotel Ops.- Did'nt bother to inform anyone from either group
> : that the Southern Baptist Convention was going to be sharing space I.E. rooms,
> : elevators and the like with each other until it was too late.
Hey, doesn't anyone remember that the end of the con also coincided with
the Black Law Officers' con, as well?
*sigh* BadTastes, Cops, tropical storms, and an atrocious con.
Of course, on the upside, I got to go back after the con to give my
two weeks' notice (having gotten the nod on a new job Thursday of
the con), and Kat & I made us Official in the Orlando in '92 bid
suite Saturday night....
mark