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Philip Chee

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Sep 11, 2015, 9:04:50 AM9/11/15
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[[
Well, it’s official: The days of blasting into space in a rattly
aluminium can are over. SpaceX has just unveiled the very first images
of the interior of its Crew Dragon capsule. As you might expect, it
looks a lot like a luxury sports car.

The capsules, which SpaceX is developing for NASA to ferry astronauts to
and from the ISS, include seven seats for its crew (made of the finest
carbon fibre and Alcantara cloth money can buy). Video displays light up
with information about the vehicle’s position and on-board environment.
The astronauts will even be able to adjust the temperature inside the
capsule — anywhere from 65 to 80 degrees Fahrenheit! This thing kicks
the crap out of my apartment building. Most importantly, the capsules
have a handful of windows that will offer a sweeping view of the stars.

I don’t see any big red buttons, which is a bit of a bummer, but it’s
probably for the best — those have a tendency to backfire. There is,
however, a large ‘execute command’ button in one of these renderings,
which I can only assume is to be used for hyperspace jumps
]]

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/09/spacexs-crew-dragon-capsule-looks-like-a-luxury-sports-car/

Phil

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Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

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Sep 11, 2015, 11:31:59 AM9/11/15
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Philip Chee <phi...@aleytys.pc.my> wrote in
news:8or92i....@news.alt.net:

> [[
> Well, it’s official: The days of blasting into space in a rattly
> aluminium can are over. SpaceX has just unveiled the very first
> images of the interior of its Crew Dragon capsule. As you might
> expect, it looks a lot like a luxury sports car.
>
> The capsules, which SpaceX is developing for NASA to ferry
> astronauts to and from the ISS, include seven seats for its crew
> (made of the finest carbon fibre and Alcantara cloth money can
> buy).

So, instead of an aluminum can, they'll be launching in a plastic
bag?

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Martha Adams

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Sep 15, 2015, 1:41:00 PM9/15/15
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On 09/11/2015 11:31 AM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Philip Chee <phi...@aleytys.pc.my> wrote in
> news:8or92i....@news.alt.net:
>
>> [[
>> Well, it’s official: The days of blasting into space in a rattly
>> aluminium can are over. SpaceX has just unveiled the very first
>> images of the interior of its Crew Dragon capsule. As you might
>> expect, it looks a lot like a luxury sports car.
>>
>> The capsules, which SpaceX is developing for NASA to ferry
>> astronauts to and from the ISS, include seven seats for its crew
>> (made of the finest carbon fibre and Alcantara cloth money can
>> buy).
>
> So, instead of an aluminum can, they'll be launching in a plastic
> bag?

==========================================
Re: luxury Dragon. Some numbers I saw recently seem to say Boeing
is getting *much* more support from Washington than is SpaceX. It
sounds like some Old Boys network is in there so SpaceX faces a hard
uphill battle. A very good looking Dragon could be a SpaceX
response to such a reality.

Titeotwawki -- Martha Adams [Tues 2015 Sep 15]


Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

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Sep 15, 2015, 1:43:28 PM9/15/15
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Martha Adams <mh...@verizon.net> wrote in
news:obKdncfQWci2xWXI...@giganews.com:

> On 09/11/2015 11:31 AM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> Philip Chee <phi...@aleytys.pc.my> wrote in
>> news:8or92i....@news.alt.net:
>>
>>> [[
>>> Well, it’s official: The days of blasting into space in a
>>> rattly aluminium can are over. SpaceX has just unveiled the
>>> very first images of the interior of its Crew Dragon capsule.
>>> As you might expect, it looks a lot like a luxury sports car.
>>>
>>> The capsules, which SpaceX is developing for NASA to ferry
>>> astronauts to and from the ISS, include seven seats for its
>>> crew (made of the finest carbon fibre and Alcantara cloth
>>> money can buy).
>>
>> So, instead of an aluminum can, they'll be launching in a
>> plastic bag?
>
> ==========================================
> Re: luxury Dragon. Some numbers I saw recently seem to say
> Boeing is getting *much* more support from Washington than is
> SpaceX. It sounds like some Old Boys network is in there

Boeing also has at least half a century more experience in making
spacecraft and the components thereof.

> so
> SpaceX faces a hard uphill battle.

Certainly, for both reasons.

>A very good looking Dragon
> could be a SpaceX response to such a reality.
>
SpaceX is Elon Musk. I don't think he's any more capable of
building something without an eye towards the ascetics than Steve
Jobs was.

Lowell Gilbert

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Sep 16, 2015, 9:19:00 AM9/16/15
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taus...@gmail.com> writes:

> Martha Adams <mh...@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:obKdncfQWci2xWXI...@giganews.com:
>> Re: luxury Dragon. Some numbers I saw recently seem to say
>> Boeing is getting *much* more support from Washington than is
>> SpaceX. It sounds like some Old Boys network is in there
>
> Boeing also has at least half a century more experience in making
> spacecraft and the components thereof.
>
>> so
>> SpaceX faces a hard uphill battle.
>
> Certainly, for both reasons.

Not that SpaceX hasn't itself spent money lobbying Congress and donating
to candidates. Not nearly as much as Boeing, but rare for tech startups.

>>A very good looking Dragon
>> could be a SpaceX response to such a reality.
>>
> SpaceX is Elon Musk. I don't think he's any more capable of
> building something without an eye towards the ascetics than Steve
> Jobs was.

I love that typo.

pete...@gmail.com

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Sep 16, 2015, 11:05:08 AM9/16/15
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On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 9:19:00 AM UTC-4, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taus...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Martha Adams <mh...@verizon.net> wrote in
> > news:obKdncfQWci2xWXI...@giganews.com:
> >> Re: luxury Dragon. Some numbers I saw recently seem to say
> >> Boeing is getting *much* more support from Washington than is
> >> SpaceX. It sounds like some Old Boys network is in there
> >
> > Boeing also has at least half a century more experience in making
> > spacecraft and the components thereof.
> >
> >> so
> >> SpaceX faces a hard uphill battle.
> >
> > Certainly, for both reasons.
>
> Not that SpaceX hasn't itself spent money lobbying Congress and donating
> to candidates. Not nearly as much as Boeing, but rare for tech startups.

Being right also helps.

From http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/08/how-and-why-spacex-will-colonize-mars.html/4#phase2

"For years, the US government has relied on two major aerospace companies
--Boeing and Lockheed Martin, along with their joint venture, United Launch
Alliance (ULA)--for domestic launches. ULA charges the government--and the US
taxpayers--$380 million per launch. For a similar launch, the US government only
pays SpaceX $133 million. For launches with other customers, without all of
NASA's special requirements, SpaceX charges $60 million per launch."

Being 1/3 to 1/6 the cost eventually penetrates the brains of even the most
PAC-addicted legislator. SpaceX recently got approved to carry US military
and classified payloads, which is a huge boost for the company.

[BTW: I *highly* recommend https://www.waitbutwhy.com - the guy is an explainer
extraordinaire, and very, very readable.]

pt

Kevrob

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Sep 16, 2015, 1:47:40 PM9/16/15
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On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 11:05:08 AM UTC-4, pete...@gmail.com wrote:

> [BTW: I *highly* recommend https://www.waitbutwhy.com - the guy is an explainer
> extraordinaire, and very, very readable.]


That's a fun page, but I HATE sites where you can only comment
by signing into FarceBuch. Yuck!

He must be SUCH the "likes" whore.

Kevin R



pete...@gmail.com

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Sep 16, 2015, 1:55:21 PM9/16/15
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Just checked: 260k and counting.

I agree - I really hate the move towards federated identities.

Regardless, I really like the site.

pt

pete...@gmail.com

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Sep 16, 2015, 2:23:02 PM9/16/15
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On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 1:47:40 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
He also allows Google, Disqus, and Twitter.
But I agree, I'd prefer to have a login unique to the site.

pt

Kevrob

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Sep 16, 2015, 4:07:07 PM9/16/15
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Thanks for the info. I was able to use one of those.
Clumsy interface, though. If a site is going to have multiple
login identity choices, I prefer an array to choose from,
not a Farcebuch default, like I was seeing.

Kevin R

Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

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Sep 16, 2015, 10:22:26 PM9/16/15
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pete...@gmail.com wrote in
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Of course, it is still too early to tell whether or not they are
actually able to deliver the same level of service, such as success
rate. Especially since they are still working on man-rating their
systems. A $60 million dollar launch that blows up halfway there
isn't as good a deal as a $380 million dollar launch that doesn't.

I expect they'll still compare favorably, even then, but we do not
yet know.

Keith F. Lynch

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Sep 16, 2015, 10:39:05 PM9/16/15
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Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> That's a fun page, but I HATE sites where you can only comment by
> signing into FarceBuch. Yuck!

It's puzzling how many sites have, if not that policy, then at least
a link to Facebook from their main page. Why would I want to follow
CNN on Facebook when I can follow them on cnn.com? Is Facebook giving
kickbacks to all these sites for the advertising?

There are lots of inventions where I say I should have thought of
that. And a few where I *did* think of that, but didn't have the
motivation or the capitalization to make it happen.

Facebook is not in that category. It's in a category with pet rocks
and S&H Green Stamps, things that make me ask how that can possibly
interest anyone. Things I would *never* have thought of, any more
than I'd think of -- umm -- it's very hard to think of something I
would never think of. So I'll say a piano stuffed with animal dung.

I expect that within a few years, Facebook will be as forgotten as
pet rocks and S&H Green Stamps.
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Alan Woodford

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Sep 17, 2015, 2:04:25 AM9/17/15
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 02:39:04 +0000 (UTC), "Keith F. Lynch"
<k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote:

>Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> That's a fun page, but I HATE sites where you can only comment by
>> signing into FarceBuch. Yuck!
>
>It's puzzling how many sites have, if not that policy, then at least
>a link to Facebook from their main page. Why would I want to follow
>CNN on Facebook when I can follow them on cnn.com? Is Facebook giving
>kickbacks to all these sites for the advertising?
>
>There are lots of inventions where I say I should have thought of
>that. And a few where I *did* think of that, but didn't have the
>motivation or the capitalization to make it happen.
>

I could explain, based on being responsible for some of the content on
Sandwell council's website, and working alongside one of the guys who
rund a Facebook page for the council (both as small parts of our main
jobs), but Keith would never read it....

Anyway, I won't be replying to anything soon, we're about to drive up
to the North York Moors, and visit Whitby for a few days, and I need
to load up on stakes and garlic :-D

Alan Woodford
The Greying Lensman

Gary McGath

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Sep 17, 2015, 7:41:49 PM9/17/15
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On 9/16/15 10:39 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:

> Facebook is not in that category. It's in a category with pet rocks
> and S&H Green Stamps, things that make me ask how that can possibly
> interest anyone. Things I would *never* have thought of, any more
> than I'd think of -- umm -- it's very hard to think of something I
> would never think of. So I'll say a piano stuffed with animal dung.
>
> I expect that within a few years, Facebook will be as forgotten as
> pet rocks and S&H Green Stamps.
>

S&H Green Stamps actually have an explanation. Around the mid-twentieth
century, state price-fixing laws (called "fair trade," of course) were
common. It was illegal under many circumstances to give discounts.
Stamps that could be exchanged for premiums were a workaround, an
alternative way to compete. There were other stamp companies -- I recall
Top Value -- but S&H was the biggest and best known.

Those laws no longer exist, so there's no longer a market for the stamps.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Fair-Trade+Laws

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