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gfa...@savvy.com

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Sep 12, 2001, 4:08:40 AM9/12/01
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Since Kevin mentioned this fairly spectacular building adjacent to the WTC,
I thought I'd mention that live WCBS reports says that, from the outside, it
appears not at all significantly damaged, after all.

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Matthew B. Tepper

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Sep 12, 2001, 11:01:06 AM9/12/01
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gfa...@savvy.com wrote in news:9nn568$84auf$1...@ID-51877.news.dfncis.de:

> Since Kevin mentioned this fairly spectacular building adjacent to the
> WTC, I thought I'd mention that live WCBS reports says that, from the
> outside, it appears not at all significantly damaged, after all.

Fan (NYUSFS?) Rachel Kadushin was working in the World Financial Center,
was evacuated, and walked home via the park (helping several people along
the way).

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Kevin J. Maroney

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Sep 12, 2001, 2:52:29 PM9/12/01
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On 12 Sep 2001 08:08:40 GMT, gfa...@savvy.com wrote:
>Since Kevin mentioned this fairly spectacular building adjacent to the WTC,
>I thought I'd mention that live WCBS reports says that, from the outside, it
>appears not at all significantly damaged, after all.

I'm very glad to hear that. I don't have strong memories of the WTC
per se, but I'm very fond of the WFC and would hate to have lost that,
too.

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Vicki Rosenzweig

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Sep 12, 2001, 3:56:47 PM9/12/01
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Quoth gfa...@savvy.com on 12 Sep 2001 08:08:40 GMT:

>Since Kevin mentioned this fairly spectacular building adjacent to the WTC,
>I thought I'd mention that live WCBS reports says that, from the outside, it
>appears not at all significantly damaged, after all.

That's a relief. The Guardian Web site, when I checked a couple of hours
ago, said the WTC collapse and fires might have made the World Financial
Center structurally unsound.

I suspect they're going to keep it empty until they have time to worry
about it, which may be a few days.
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Omega

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Sep 12, 2001, 6:51:54 PM9/12/01
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In article <6efvptgc9t3b5750n...@4ax.com>, Vicki
Rosenzweig <v...@redbird.org> writes

>Quoth gfa...@savvy.com on 12 Sep 2001 08:08:40 GMT:
>
>>Since Kevin mentioned this fairly spectacular building adjacent to the WTC,
>>I thought I'd mention that live WCBS reports says that, from the outside, it
>>appears not at all significantly damaged, after all.
>
>That's a relief. The Guardian Web site, when I checked a couple of hours
>ago, said the WTC collapse and fires might have made the World Financial
>Center structurally unsound.
>
>I suspect they're going to keep it empty until they have time to worry
>about it, which may be a few days.

If it has a few days. Reports seem to have buildings going down like
ninepins at the moment.

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Randolph Fritz

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Sep 13, 2001, 12:09:41 AM9/13/01
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In article <9nn568$84auf$1...@ID-51877.news.dfncis.de>, gfa...@savvy.com wrote:
> Since Kevin mentioned this fairly spectacular building adjacent to the WTC,
> I thought I'd mention that live WCBS reports says that, from the outside, it
> appears not at all significantly damaged, after all.
>

The designer firm was Cesar Pelli and Associates, by the way, who also
designed Petronas Tower. They are going to have to update the picture
on their web site, though, which shows the WTC in the background.
<http://www.cesar-pelli.com/>

Randolph

P Nielsen Hayden

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Sep 13, 2001, 8:42:03 AM9/13/01
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On 12 Sep 2001 08:08:40 GMT,
gfa...@savvy.com <gfa...@savvy.com> wrote:
>Since Kevin mentioned this fairly spectacular building adjacent to the WTC,
>I thought I'd mention that live WCBS reports says that, from the outside, it
>appears not at all significantly damaged, after all.

If you click through the immense (over a thousand pictures) slide show
on the Yahoo news site, you will find pictures of the beautiful atrium
of the WFC, the one full of indoor trees, clearly damaged and full of
fire-fighters. The building may remain standing, but its condition
doesn't look good.


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David Dyer-Bennet

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Sep 13, 2001, 11:57:18 AM9/13/01
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Randolph Fritz <rand...@panix.com> writes:

They already have.
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Sylvia Li

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Sep 13, 2001, 10:04:44 PM9/13/01
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According to their web site, they also designed Canary Wharf Tower.

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Mike Scott

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Sep 14, 2001, 3:25:03 AM9/14/01
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 02:04:44 GMT, Sylvia Li <meta...@escape.ca> wrote:

>Randolph Fritz wrote:
>>
>> The designer firm was Cesar Pelli and Associates, by the way, who also
>> designed Petronas Tower. They are going to have to update the picture
>> on their web site, though, which shows the WTC in the background.
>> <http://www.cesar-pelli.com/>
>>
>> Randolph
>
>According to their web site, they also designed Canary Wharf Tower.

Since its official name is the Cesar Pelli Tower, this seems likely.

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Ray Radlein

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Sep 15, 2001, 1:04:42 AM9/15/01
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P Nielsen Hayden wrote:
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> If you click through the immense (over a thousand pictures) slide
> show on the Yahoo news site, you will find pictures of the
> beautiful atrium of the WFC, the one full of indoor trees, clearly
> damaged and full of fire-fighters. The building may remain
> standing, but its condition doesn't look good.

Without looking at the Yahoo pictures, I *think* that that picture, or
a very similar one, is also part of the (much smaller) Time magazine
online photo essay (which can probably still be reached through
CNN.com).

- Ray R.

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Mike Benveniste

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Sep 15, 2001, 9:32:18 AM9/15/01
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P Nielsen Hayden wrote:
>
> On 12 Sep 2001 08:08:40 GMT,
> gfa...@savvy.com <gfa...@savvy.com> wrote:
> >Since Kevin mentioned this fairly spectacular building adjacent to the WTC,
> >I thought I'd mention that live WCBS reports says that, from the outside, it
> >appears not at all significantly damaged, after all.
>
> If you click through the immense (over a thousand pictures) slide show
> on the Yahoo news site, you will find pictures of the beautiful atrium
> of the WFC, the one full of indoor trees, clearly damaged and full of
> fire-fighters. The building may remain standing, but its condition
> doesn't look good.

One, Two, and Four World Financial Center are all owned by Brookfield
Properties (NYSE: BPQ). They also own One Liberty Plaza, another
building that has been reported as on the verge of collapse. Their
very visible public position, backed by consulting structural engineers,
is that there is no serious structural damage to any of their buildings.
See: http://www.brookfieldproperties.com/

Three World Financial Center is owned by American Express and was
reported as in danger of coming down. The N.Y. Times refuted this
in an article yesterday. Damage yes, but most of it appears to be of
the easily repaired type.

Cosmetic considerations aren't going to be top priority initially,
and I fully expect some of the aesthetics to be ruined by new security
measures. The prognosis could have been a lot worse.

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