Doctor Who's Davros reinvention is crucial for disabled fans

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In article <ujiluf$l$6...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

>The decision made by Russell T Davies to change the appearance of malevolent
>evil-doer Davros in Doctor Who to remove the scarring and wheelchair use is
>so significant for disabled fans across past, present, and future
>generations.

I never really gave it much thought, TBH. I thought he was partially ripped
off from Captian Pike from STAR TREK and overcame his condition.

>As a disabled child growing up with Doctor Who, I was instantly drawn to the
>mysterious and chilling character of Davros; from the moment he appeared on
>screen, his presence captivated and unsettled me.
>
>But recently, Doctor Who returned to screens with a particular scene
>featuring Davros, who was played once again by Julian Bleach, without a
>wheelchair or scarring – and while viewers might have thought that it was
>simply because this special scene was set before the accident that left the
>character scarred and needing a support unit and means of mobility, Doctor
>Who showrunner Russell T Davies has clarified that it was a conscious attempt
>to consider the sometimes uncomfortable history of the show, and broader
>society, and how it ought to evolve.

[rolls eyes]


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[Tim Merrigan]

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:07 -0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
(The Doctor) wrote:

>https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fans-comment/

Okay, they've introduced an able bodied Davros, now they need to
introduce some disabled heroes.
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[The Last Doctor]

Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:07 -0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
> (The Doctor) wrote:
>
>> https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fans-comment/
>
> Okay, they've introduced an able bodied Davros, now they need to
> introduce some disabled heroes.

Well the late great Bernard Cribbins was wheelchair bound when he did his
cameo for the upcoming specials - and Britain’s most used wheelchair bind
actor Ruth Madeley is also guesting soon - so yeah. Guest stars on the side
of “right”in wheelchairs are coming.

Liz Carr - who after decades in Silent Witness has recently been seen in
The Witcher, Good Omens and Loki - is a shoo in to appear soon too, I
betcha.

I’m not sure a disabled Doctor works given regeneration, but we’ll see one
day no doubt. RTD has already written one into the side-canon (in the
novelisation he did for the episode “Rose”) as being one of the Doctors on
Clive’s wallboard.

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[The Doctor]

In article <ujirle$u52c$1...@dont-email.me>,

Eas on!

>
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>
>

[The Doctor]

In article <7m1qlid026krsnul2...@4ax.com>,

Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:07 -0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>(The Doctor) wrote:
>
>>https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fans-comment/
>
>Okay, they've introduced an able bodied Davros, now they need to
>introduce some disabled heroes.

Yeah.

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[The Doctor]

In article <ujj46q$vmfp$1...@dont-email.me>,

Thank you1

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[Your Name]

On 2023-11-21 19:38:43 +0000, Tim Merrigan said:
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:07 -0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
> (The Doctor) wrote:
>>
>> https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fans-comment/
>>
>
> Okay, they've introduced an able bodied Davros, now they need to
> introduce some disabled heroes.

That article was obviously written by someone with zero understanding
of Doctor Who and is simply "Politically Correct" bandwagon-jumping /
whining. :-(

The short "minisode" took place at the creation of the first Dalek ...
so could easily be before Davos was badly injured and had to start
using the wheelchair.

[The Doctor]

In article <ujj9bs$10h5o$1...@dont-email.me>,

That's Davros!

[BTR1701]

In article <ujiluf$l$6...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,

doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:

> https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fans-co
> mment/

So what's next? Are we also going to have to retcon Darth Vader and take
him out of his iconic suit (which is the equivalent of a wheelchair--
he's disabled and it's what keeps him alive and allows him to be mobile
and interact with the world) because he's a villain and apparently there
are no bad disabled people in the world anymore (or something) so they
can never be shown as such.

It's ridiculous to have a franchise with major and intentional continuity
errors that will forever have to be explained to new fans that, "Yes, it
makes no damn sense for the character to be scarred and disabled in all
these episodes here, but over here the producers went woke and so this
is where we are."

--------------------------------

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fa
ns-comment/

The decision made by Russell T Davies to change the appearance of

malevolent evil-doer Davros in DOCTOR WHO to remove the scarring and

wheelchair use is so significant for disabled fans across past, present,
and future generations.

As a disabled child growing up with DOCTOR WHO, I was instantly drawn to

the mysterious and chilling character of Davros; from the moment he
appeared on screen, his presence captivated and unsettled me.

But as I matured, an unsettling feeling of unease crept into my
consciousness. I couldn't get rid of the idea that Davros and countless
other DOCTOR WHO villains, such as John Lumic (Roger Lloyd Pack),
another wheelchair user, fell into a troubling trope that profoundly
impacted me and others.

As a character, Davros embodies a particular trope that has been present
in storytelling for centuries. It is the notion that a character's moral
and physiological nature are intrinsically linked. This idea is as
universal as it is old. It suggests that physical disability is telling
of inherently villainous or tragic characteristics, strengthening the
harmful notion that disabled individuals are somehow flawed, lesser or
tainted.

My memories of DOCTOR WHO are of the good sometimes mingled too tightly
with the bad.

The power of the trope can be felt before it is fully understood or
seen-- disabled people feel it in the way we're taken apart and put back
together again. Our experience of the prejudice and stigma such ideas
provoke is still fraught and muddy-- a mess of feelings.

Over time, you could gradually watch the light behind my eyes change
from innocent devotion to betrayal. For years, DOCTOR WHO had told me,
unwittingly, something was wrong with me.

But recently, DOCTOR WHO returned to screens with a particular scene

featuring Davros, who was played once again by Julian Bleach, without a

wheelchair or scarring-- and while viewers might have thought that it

was simply because this special scene was set before the accident that
left the character scarred and needing a support unit and means of

mobility, DOCTOR WHO showrunner Russell T Davies has clarified that it

was a conscious attempt to consider the sometimes uncomfortable history
of the show, and broader society, and how it ought to evolve.

On the new BBC Three companion series DOCTOR WHO: UNLEASHED, Davies
said: "We had long conversations about bringing Davros back, because
he's a fantastic character, [but] time and society and culture and taste
has moved on.

"And there's a problem with the Davros of old in that he's a wheelchair
user, who is evil. And I had problems with that. And a lot of us on the
production team had problems with that, of associating disability with
evil."

I had tears in my eyes as I watched a man I admire utter these words; it
was cathartic. But I wish they had been spoken earlier by someone who
looked, moved or talked like me.

Many have now risen to address and denounce these former practices and,
as Davies further comments: "I say, this is how we see Davros now, this
is what he looks like. This is 2023. This is our lens. This is our eye.
Things used to be black and white, they're not in black and white
anymore, and Davros used to look like that and he looks like this now,
and that we are absolutely standing by."

Their voices resonate with a generation searching for validation because
we've been told for so long that our concerns, feelings, and unease
don't matter.

However, changing how Davros was portrayed elicited strong emotions from
many fans, who quickly expressed their displeasure. Many argued that
they had never perceived Davros as a wheelchair user and believed the
character should remain untouched.

But this reaction misses a critical point. The significance of altering
Davros's image lies in the experience of disabled viewers. It is about
allowing them to watch and engage with the show without feeling a
creeping unease, without that early recognition that they are being
othered by their heroes or condemned even in other worlds.

One DOCTOR WHO fan shared their perspective on social media, stating
that the change in Davros's portrayal had "ruined" their childhood. I
encourage anyone who shares this sentiment to consider the impact of a
consistent stream of disabled villains on disabled children. What it
teaches them about their bodies and minds-- what it puts in their
imaginations.

While it is crucial to avoid removing disabilities or attempting to
"fix" disabled characters, their histories, their narratives or their
identities, Davros, being an archetypal villain, exists in that form
only to feed on prejudice and misconceptions. As Dr Kirsty Liddiard from
the University of Sheffield puts it, these characters must be more than
the "sum of their impairments".

Past, present, and future generations of DOCTOR WHO fans will feel the
impact of this change. It allows for more inclusive and representative
storytelling, where disabled individuals are seen as equals, and their
voices and feelings are listened to-- it's also a moment of validation,
of catharsis, for those of us told that our feelings of unease didn't
and still don't matter.

[The Doctor]

In article <atropos-C6F03C...@ec2-18-102-80-69.eu-south-1.compute.amazonaws.com>,

BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>In article <ujiluf$l$6...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
> doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>
>> https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fans-co
>> mment/
>
>So what's next? Are we also going to have to retcon Darth Vader and take
>him out of his iconic suit (which is the equivalent of a wheelchair--
>he's disabled and it's what keeps him alive and allows him to be mobile
>and interact with the world) because he's a villain and apparently there
>are no bad disabled people in the world anymore (or something) so they
>can never be shown as such.
>
>It's ridiculous to have a franchise with major and intentional continuity
>errors that will forever have to be explained to new fans that, "Yes, it
>makes no damn sense for the character to be scarred and disabled in all
>these episodes here, but over here the producers went woke and so this
>is where we are."
>

Guess why RTD was hired in 2005?

[John Hall]

In message <ujj9bs$10h5o$1...@dont-email.me>, Your Name
<Your...@YourISP.com> writes

I'd have thought that his own wheelchair was likely to be his
inspiration for the Dalek design, but I suppose it could have been the
other way around.
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

[The Last Doctor]

John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <ujj9bs$10h5o$1...@dont-email.me>, Your Name
> <Your...@YourISP.com> writes
>> On 2023-11-21 19:38:43 +0000, Tim Merrigan said:
>>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:07 -0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>> (The Doctor) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled
>>>> -fans-comment/
>>> Okay, they've introduced an able bodied Davros, now they need to
>>> introduce some disabled heroes.
>>
>> That article was obviously written by someone with zero understanding
>> of Doctor Who and is simply "Politically Correct" bandwagon-jumping /
>> whining. :-(
>>
>> The short "minisode" took place at the creation of the first Dalek ...
>> so could easily be before Davos was badly injured and had to start
>> using the wheelchair.
>>
>
> I'd have thought that his own wheelchair was likely to be his
> inspiration for the Dalek design, but I suppose it could have been the
> other way around.

That’s not the point - in the latest set of timelines, there will be no
injury, no Dalek-based chair. Russell T Davies was very clear on this in
the “Unleashed” mini documentary that accompanied the minisode:

‘We had long conversations about bringing Davros back, because he’s a
fantastic character. Time and society and culture and taste have moved on,
and there’s a problem with the old Davros: he’s a wheelchair user who is
evil. I had problems with that. A lot of us on the production team did too,
associating disability with evil. Trust me, there’s a very long tradition
of this.

‘I’m not blaming people in the past at all, but the world changes. And when
the world changes, Doctor Who has to change as well. So we made the choice
to bring back Davros without the facial scarring and without the wheelchair
– or his support unit, which functions as a wheelchair.

‘I say, this is how we see Davros now. This is what he looks like. This is
2023. This is our lens. This is our eye. Things used to be black and white;
they’re not anymore. Davros used to look like that, and now he looks like
this. We are absolutely standing by that.’

This change to Davros is indeed due to a woke rethinking of the role. Past
iterations remain, but this Davros - the one we’re likely to see again - is
from a different continuity, and whatever we think of that, it is what it
is. And this also demonstrates the sort of thinking that the show’s
creatives are likely to continue to bring to the show (given that there are
five specials and an 8 episode season in the can already and production is
underway on the 2025 season), so we can either learn to live with it and
accept the show for what it now is, or move on.

[Daniel65]

The Last Doctor wrote on 22/11/23 7:33 am:

> Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:07 -0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>> (The Doctor) wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fans-comment/
>>
>> Okay, they've introduced an able bodied Davros, now they need to
>> introduce some disabled heroes.
>
> Well the late great Bernard Cribbins was wheelchair bound when he
> did his cameo for the upcoming specials - and Britain’s most used
> wheelchair bind actor Ruth Madeley is also guesting soon - so yeah.
> Guest stars on the side of “right”in wheelchairs are coming.
>
> Liz Carr - who after decades in Silent Witness

"after decades"?? I didn't think it was that long!! ;-P

> has recently been seen in The Witcher, Good Omens and Loki - is a
> shoo in to appear soon too, I betcha.
>
> I’m not sure a disabled Doctor works given regeneration,

Was it Doctor 5 or 6 that fell off a Radio Telescope Antenna and then
re-generated??

Could we have had a Wheelchair enabled Doctor there for a while before
he regenerated into a fit, healthy, Doctor??

> but we’ll see one day no doubt. RTD has already written one into the
> side-canon (in the novelisation he did for the episode “Rose”) as
> being one of the Doctors on Clive’s wallboard.

--

Daniel

[The True Doctor]

On 21/11/2023 20:33, The Last Doctor wrote:
> Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:07 -0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>> (The Doctor) wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fans-comment/
>>
>> Okay, they've introduced an able bodied Davros, now they need to
>> introduce some disabled heroes.
>

WHY?

> Well the late great Bernard Cribbins was wheelchair bound when he did his
> cameo for the upcoming specials - and Britain’s most used wheelchair bind
> actor Ruth Madeley is also guesting soon - so yeah. Guest stars on the side
> of “right”in wheelchairs are coming.
>

So what does the woke retard of a show runner RTD want to do? Scare
children? I seem to remember reading about him issuing some sort of
warning regarding that earlier?

Since he thinks that depicting someone in a wheelchair means that they
mast be evil is he foreshadowing something? Didn't this retard create
John Lumic and make him the creator of the Cybermen? Aren't the Cybermen
supposed to represent disabled people anyway? Like all disabled people
since all their body parts have been replaced. I seem to remember
reading that actual disabled people such as Ian Levine were condemning
this woke retard for claiming that one disability represents all
disabilities when it clearly doesn't. How are people who are deaf
supposed to be represented by wheelchair users? How are people that need
kidney dialysis or with heart conditions supposed to be represented by
someone in a wheelchair. Well, technically they used to be by Davros
because his chair also contained a life support system, but not any
more. It's no wonder the retarded woke bigot is being universally
condemned for attempting to represent people who never asked him to
represent them.

> Liz Carr - who after decades in Silent Witness has recently been seen in
> The Witcher, Good Omens and Loki - is a shoo in to appear soon too, I
> betcha.

So Doctor Who is being turned into a freak show then. Roll up, roll up,
come in to see the bearded lady. Is she a lady? No, she was born a man.
But you could not tell before I told you, or can you? Roll up, roll up,
the show is about to begin.

>
> I’m not sure a disabled Doctor works given regeneration, but we’ll see one
> day no doubt. RTD has already written one into the side-canon (in the
> novelisation he did for the episode “Rose”) as being one of the Doctors on
> Clive’s wallboard.
>

It's back to the retarded one-disability-fits-all bigoted mentality
again isn't it?

How the fuck is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb stairs?
Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?

--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

[The True Doctor]

Where did RTD say it was from a different continuity?

When are you woke retards going to remember that Capaldi met Davros when
he was a boy walking though a mine field with his legs intact and no
scaring or mutations.

> is. And this also demonstrates the sort of thinking that the show’s
> creatives are likely to continue to bring to the show (given that there are

Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke hypocrites and bigots
who no body asked for them to be represented by.

> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can already and production is
> underway on the 2025 season), so we can either learn to live with it and
> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>

Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue it from where it
ended. RTD isn't making anything for the viewers, and neither was
Chibnall. They're only making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.

[Stephan Seitz]

In uk.media.tv.sf.drwho Daniel65 <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> Was it Doctor 5 or 6 that fell off a Radio Telescope Antenna and then
> re-generated??

Ist was Number 4.

> Could we have had a Wheelchair enabled Doctor there for a while before
> he regenerated into a fit, healthy, Doctor??

But what will you do with him (or a companion in a wheelchair)? I
don't even know if the Tardis doors would be big enough.

You can't have episodes in the human past because the people wouldn't
know what do to with a wheelchair and most places wouldn't be
reachable with a wheelchair.

You can't have big action szenes. Think about the running around.

That's why Charles Xavier is a very boring character. He can only give
orders but the "work" has to be done by others.

And to hell with Davros. He is the only Who villain in a wheelchair.
And he is a war survivor which explains the possible need for a
wheelchair.

But I don't care anymore for new Dr. Who. I will look for restored
missing episodes from the old Who, but the new Who is dead for me.

Stephan

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| If your life was a horse, you'd have to shoot it. |

[The Doctor]

In article <J6f$twAwIdXlFwEL@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>,

John Hall <jo...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <ujj9bs$10h5o$1...@dont-email.me>, Your Name
><Your...@YourISP.com> writes
>>On 2023-11-21 19:38:43 +0000, Tim Merrigan said:
>>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:07 -0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>> (The Doctor) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled
>>>>-fans-comment/
>>> Okay, they've introduced an able bodied Davros, now they need to
>>> introduce some disabled heroes.
>>
>>That article was obviously written by someone with zero understanding
>>of Doctor Who and is simply "Politically Correct" bandwagon-jumping /
>>whining. :-(
>>
>>The short "minisode" took place at the creation of the first Dalek ...
>>so could easily be before Davos was badly injured and had to start
>>using the wheelchair.
>>
>
>I'd have thought that his own wheelchair was likely to be his
>inspiration for the Dalek design, but I suppose it could have been the
>other way around.

He survived an attack AFAWK

>--
>John Hall
> "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
> from coughing."
> Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

[The Doctor]

In article <ujkuqe$1bd44$1...@dont-email.me>,

The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:

Beware anti-wokers!

>--
>“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor

[The Doctor]

In article <ujl00a$1bin1$1...@dont-email.me>,

Daniel65 <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Last Doctor wrote on 22/11/23 7:33 am:
>> Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:07 -0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
>>> (The Doctor) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fans-comment/
>>>
>>> Okay, they've introduced an able bodied Davros, now they need to
>>> introduce some disabled heroes.
>>
>> Well the late great Bernard Cribbins was wheelchair bound when he
>> did his cameo for the upcoming specials - and Britain’s most used
>> wheelchair bind actor Ruth Madeley is also guesting soon - so yeah.
>> Guest stars on the side of “right”in wheelchairs are coming.
>>
>> Liz Carr - who after decades in Silent Witness
>
>"after decades"?? I didn't think it was that long!! ;-P
>
>> has recently been seen in The Witcher, Good Omens and Loki - is a
>> shoo in to appear soon too, I betcha.
>>
>> I’m not sure a disabled Doctor works given regeneration,
>
>Was it Doctor 5 or 6 that fell off a Radio Telescope Antenna and then
>re-generated??
>

Logopolis Doctor 4 to 5 !!

>Could we have had a Wheelchair enabled Doctor there for a while before
>he regenerated into a fit, healthy, Doctor??
>
>> but we’ll see one day no doubt. RTD has already written one into the
>> side-canon (in the novelisation he did for the episode “Rose”) as
>> being one of the Doctors on Clive’s wallboard.
>

Point well taken.

>--
>Daniel

[The Doctor]

In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2...@dont-email.me>,

>How is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb stairs?

>Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?
>

Good points!!

>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
>

[The Doctor]

In article <ujl28d$1bn3g$4...@dont-email.me>,

The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

Will Aldred be wrong?

>
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
>

[The Doctor]

In article <ks6hb8...@mid.individual.net>,

Stephan Seitz <stse+...@rootsland.net> wrote:
>In uk.media.tv.sf.drwho Daniel65 <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Was it Doctor 5 or 6 that fell off a Radio Telescope Antenna and then
>> re-generated??
>

>It was Number 4.
>

Fixed

>> Could we have had a Wheelchair enabled Doctor there for a while before
>> he regenerated into a fit, healthy, Doctor??
>
>But what will you do with him (or a companion in a wheelchair)? I
>don't even know if the Tardis doors would be big enough.
>
>You can't have episodes in the human past because the people wouldn't
>know what do to with a wheelchair and most places wouldn't be
>reachable with a wheelchair.
>
>You can't have big action szenes. Think about the running around.
>
>That's why Charles Xavier is a very boring character. He can only give
>orders but the "work" has to be done by others.
>
>And to hell with Davros. He is the only Who villain in a wheelchair.
>And he is a war survivor which explains the possible need for a
>wheelchair.
>
>But I don't care anymore for new Dr. Who. I will look for restored
>missing episodes from the old Who, but the new Who is dead for me.
>

Capaldi took a long time toe regenerate back to
David Tennant for me!

> Stephan
>
>--
>| Stephan Seitz E-Mail: stse+...@rootsland.net |
>| If your life was a horse, you'd have to shoot it. |

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 11/22/2023 5:13 AM, The Last Doctor wrote:
>
> This change to Davros is indeed due to a woke rethinking of the role. Past
> iterations remain, but this Davros - the one we’re likely to see again - is
> from a different continuity, and whatever we think of that, it is what it
> is. And this also demonstrates the sort of thinking that the show’s
> creatives are likely to continue to bring to the show (given that there are
> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can already and production is
> underway on the 2025 season), so we can either learn to live with it and
> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>

Well, personally I don't have a choice about moving on since this isn't
going to be shown in a venue I can access.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

[Tim Merrigan]

On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
<agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

>Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke hypocrites and bigots
>who no body asked for them to be represented by.

Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What people appear to
object to most about "woke" is that it's not bigoted.)

>
>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can already and production is
>> underway on the 2025 season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>
>
>Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue it from where it
>ended. RTD isn't making anything for the viewers, and neither was
>Chibnall. They're only making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.

Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow his fanfics.

[BTR1701]

In article <5hnslip2ps10bl64a...@4ax.com>,

Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
> <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
> >Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke hypocrites and bigots
> >who no body asked for them to be represented by.
>
> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What people appear to
> object to most about "woke" is that it's not bigoted.)

'Woke' is absolutely bigoted. When casting notices won't even consider
white males in the name of 'diversity', that's bigotry.

[%]

it would help if you were diverse

[Your Name]

Translation: "We're continuing to screw up Doctor Who even more simply
to appease the few Politically Correct morons."

Time to cancel the series again.

[trotsky]

So in your diseased, syphilitic mind "diversity" means including whites
also? That's so weird! Whites are in the majority, and "diversity" is
SPECIFICALLY about including minorities. Would you say what you said
was stupid or a lie?

[The True Doctor]

On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
> <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke hypocrites and bigots
>> who no body asked for them to be represented by.
>
> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What people appear to
> object to most about "woke" is that it's not bigoted.)

It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction 'and' works. If
I'd wanted to make it optional I would have said 'or'.

>
>>
>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can already and production is
>>> underway on the 2025 season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>
>>
>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue it from where it
>> ended. RTD isn't making anything for the viewers, and neither was
>> Chibnall. They're only making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>
> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow his fanfics.

My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and Davies's, based
on real canon, and had an able bodied Davros creating the Dalek travel
machines so shouldn't you be prizing it?

Goes to show what liars and complete hypocrites the woketards are.

Write fan fic. based on the principles of good writing and entertainment
being fundamental in all aspects and the woketards attack it. Write
worse fan fic. based on exactly the same story idea but sell it as being
woke, putting wokery above story, plot, and character, and the worktards
can't stop kissing your arse.

Look for:
AGA S11E03 The Cult of Skaro (3 March 2016)
AGA S11E04 The Gods of Skaro (4 March 2016)

Shouldn't you woketards be praising me for empowering disabled people,
because as the retard RTD says, one disability fits all?

[The True Doctor]

You are a retard, a racist, and a bigot. Only racists like you use the
term white as if there is no diversity in people who have fair skin.
Europeans such as Swedes, Norwegians, Danes, the Dutch, Germans, the
French, Spanish, Greeks, Italians, Bulgarians, and Polish people don't
identify themselves as white, they identify by the diversity of their
nationalities as labelled individually above. There is more diversity in
so-called white people than there is in so-called black people, another
term used by racists who attempt to remove all diversity form everyone
by only classifying them by their skin colour.

Your so-called diversity is a racist and bigoted construct and a sham
which excludes the people with the most diversity of all, Europeans with
diversity of culture, history, language, music, and literature.
Europeans even have a greater diversity of skin colour from the palest
white skin belonging to red heads, to olive and dark skin belonging to
people of the Mediterranean. Even within the component nations of the UK
there is more diversity between its founding peoples than there is
between your racist division of people into black and white and
exclusion of what do deem as being white people from everything because
you consider non-white to be superior. You racist, bigot, and retard!

[anim8rfsk]

And in the case of Nancy Drew, racism.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

[The Doctor]

In article <ujlbnj$1dau4$4...@dont-email.me>,

Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 11/22/2023 5:13 AM, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>
>> This change to Davros is indeed due to a woke rethinking of the role. Past
>> iterations remain, but this Davros - the one we’re likely to see again - is
>> from a different continuity, and whatever we think of that, it is what it
>> is. And this also demonstrates the sort of thinking that the show’s
>> creatives are likely to continue to bring to the show (given that there are
>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can already and production is
>> underway on the 2025 season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>
>Well, personally I don't have a choice about moving on since this isn't
>going to be shown in a venue I can access.
>

Watch non-UK viewership sink down.

>--
>I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
>dirty old man.
>

[The Doctor]

In article <5hnslip2ps10bl64a...@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
><agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
>>Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke hypocrites and bigots
>>who no body asked for them to be represented by.
>
>Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What people appear to
>object to most about "woke" is that it's not bigoted.)
>

What is the difference?

>>
>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can already and production is
>>> underway on the 2025 season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>
>>
>>Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue it from where it
>>ended. RTD isn't making anything for the viewers, and neither was
>>Chibnall. They're only making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>
>Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow his fanfics.
>--
>
>Qualified immunity = virtual impunity.
>
>Tim Merrigan
>
>--
>This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
>www.avg.com

[The Doctor]

In article <ujlr1l$1g4pd$1...@dont-email.me>,

Time to cancel Timeless child out!

[The Doctor]

In article <ujlsrt$1gelv$2...@dont-email.me>,

Good question.

>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
>

[The Doctor]

In article <atropos-20EBDE...@news.giganews.com>,

Exactly!!

[The Doctor]

In article <XfWcnWlgdcJh-cP4...@giganews.com>,

<:->

[The Doctor]

In article <Dqu7N.129529$wvv7....@fx14.iad>,

Illogical.

[The Doctor]

In article <ujltim$1gi67$2...@dont-email.me>,

So-called is correct!

>
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
>

[The Doctor]

In article <1601714221.722382058.1...@news.easynews.com>,

Got you!

>--
>The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

[solar penguin]

That’s odd. I could’ve sworn Davros was still being played by
a white male...

--
solar penguin

[The Doctor]

In article <ujmsu4$1oeh6$1...@dont-email.me>,

All the way through.
>--
>solar penguin

[solar penguin]

The asswipe asserted:

> In article <ujmsu4$1oeh6$1...@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 'Woke' is absolutely bigoted. When casting notices won't
>>> even consider white males in the name of 'diversity', that's
>>> bigotry.
>>>
>>
>> That’s odd. I could’ve sworn Davros was still being played
>> by a white male...
>>
>
> All the way through.

Liar! He isn’t white all the way through. Cut him open and
you’ll find he’s sort of red on the inside.

--
solar penguin

[The Doctor]

In article <ujnj8b$1rjfg$1...@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>The % asserted:

[solar penguin]

The asswipe avoided answering again:

> In article <ujnj8b$1rjfg$1...@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>

>> The asswipe asserted:

>>
>>> In article <ujmsu4$1oeh6$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Woke' is absolutely bigoted. When casting notices won't
>>>>> even consider white males in the name of 'diversity', that's
>>>>> bigotry.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That’s odd. I could’ve sworn Davros was still being played
>>>> by a white male...
>>>>
>>>
>>> All the way through.
>>
>> Liar! He isn’t white all the way through. Cut him open and
>> you’ll find he’s sort of red on the inside.
>>

At least you don’t deny being a liar.

--
solar penguin

[Tim Merrigan]

On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor

<agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

>On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>> <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>
>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke hypocrites and bigots
>>> who no body asked for them to be represented by.
>>
>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What people appear to
>> object to most about "woke" is that it's not bigoted.)
>
>It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction 'and' works. If
>I'd wanted to make it optional I would have said 'or'.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can already and production is
>>>> underway on the 2025 season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue it from where it
>>> ended. RTD isn't making anything for the viewers, and neither was
>>> Chibnall. They're only making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>
>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow his fanfics.
>
>My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and Davies's, based
>on real canon, and had an able bodied Davros creating the Dalek travel
>machines so shouldn't you be prizing it?

Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's not up to
you, or anyone outside the production and publicity staff at BBC, to
decide otherwise. What you're talking about is fanfic.

[The Doctor]

In article <fr5vlihp9kt6n36mq...@4ax.com>,

Bogus!

#svedeoctorwho #retconthetimelesschild #thetimelesschildisantidoctorwho !

>
>--
>
>Qualified immunity = virtual impunity.
>
>Tim Merrigan
>
>--
>This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
>www.avg.com

[The Doctor]

In article <ujnoph$1sd8r$1...@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>The % avoided answering again:

>
>> In article <ujnj8b$1rjfg$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>

>>> The % asserted:

>>>
>>>> In article <ujmsu4$1oeh6$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Woke' is absolutely bigoted. When casting notices won't
>>>>>> even consider white males in the name of 'diversity', that's
>>>>>> bigotry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s odd. I could’ve sworn Davros was still being played
>>>>> by a white male...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the way through.
>>>
>>> Liar! He isn’t white all the way through. Cut him open and
>>> you’ll find he’s sort of red on the inside.
>>>
>
>At least you don’t deny being a liar.
>
>--
>solar penguin

[Dorothy J Heydt]

In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2...@dont-email.me>,

The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

>How the fuck is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb stairs?
>Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?

[Hal Heydt]
You've never researched stair-climbing wheelchairs, or
attachements to permit wheelchairs to climb stairs? They both
exist.

[Dorothy J Heydt]

In article <Dqu7N.129529$wvv7....@fx14.iad>,
trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:

>So in your diseased, syphilitic mind "diversity" means including whites
>also? That's so weird! Whites are in the majority, and "diversity" is
>SPECIFICALLY about including minorities. Would you say what you said
>was stupid or a lie?

[Hal Heydt]
Where I live--California--non-Hispanic whites are a plurality,
but not a majority.

[The Doctor]

In article <s4LH3...@kithrup.com>,

Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2...@dont-email.me>,
>The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

>>How fuck is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb stairs?

>>Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?
>
>[Hal Heydt]
>You've never researched stair-climbing wheelchairs, or
>attachements to permit wheelchairs to climb stairs? They both
>exist.

Levitate!

[The Doctor]

In article <s4LH8...@kithrup.com>,

Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:

Good point!

[Your Name]

It doesn't matter what exists. It's a science fiction show, they can do
whatever they want ... hence why the Daleks gained the ability to fly
up and down stairs.

[The Doctor]

In article <ujpbhj$275ap$1...@dont-email.me>,

In such a world.

[solar penguin]

It’s racism that they don’t consider casting a white male
as Nancy Drew...?

--
solar penguin

[The True Doctor]

And how long would those take? By the time he got up the first step he'd
be exterminated. How is he supposed to crawl through air-conditioning
shafts, climb up rocks, travel across muddy fields, move through narrow
corridors, and climb up ladders?

This is total woke stupidity.

The Doctor's already been confined to a wheelchair before anyway.
William Hartnell in The Three Doctors, and he didn't do anything except
sit in one place and give instructions to his other selves. How long do
you think a series like that would last?

Real people with real disabilities have never been representing by these
hypocritical virtue signalling woke retards. Real people with real
disabilities don't like being disabled, and don't want others to be like
them in order for them to feel good. Fucking woke morons!

[The True Doctor]

On 24/11/2023 10:36, The True Doctor wrote:
> On 23/11/2023 21:02, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2...@dont-email.me>,
>> The True Doctor  <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>> How the fuck is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb stairs?
>>> Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?
>>
>> [Hal Heydt]
>> You've never researched stair-climbing wheelchairs, or
>> attachements to permit wheelchairs to climb stairs?  They both
>> exist.
>
> And how long would those take? By the time he got up the first step he'd
> be exterminated. How is he supposed to crawl through air-conditioning
> shafts, climb up rocks, travel across muddy fields, move through narrow
> corridors, and climb up ladders?
>
> This is total woke stupidity.
>
> The Doctor's already been confined to a wheelchair before anyway.
> William Hartnell in The Three Doctors, and he didn't do anything except
> sit in one place and give instructions to his other selves. How long do
> you think a series like that would last?
>

Peter Davison was also being wheeled around in a wheelchair in
Castrovalva if I remember right. He's been there done that. There's no
need to do it again.

[The Doctor]

In article <ujpub3$29itu$1...@dont-email.me>,

The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 23/11/2023 21:02, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2...@dont-email.me>,
>> The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>> How the fuck is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb stairs?
>>> Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?
>>
>> [Hal Heydt]
>> You've never researched stair-climbing wheelchairs, or
>> attachements to permit wheelchairs to climb stairs? They both
>> exist.
>
>And how long would those take? By the time he got up the first step he'd
>be exterminated. How is he supposed to crawl through air-conditioning
>shafts, climb up rocks, travel across muddy fields, move through narrow
>corridors, and climb up ladders?
>
>This is total woke stupidity.
>
>The Doctor's already been confined to a wheelchair before anyway.
>William Hartnell in The Three Doctors, and he didn't do anything except
>sit in one place and give instructions to his other selves. How long do
>you think a series like that would last?
>
>Real people with real disabilities have never been representing by these
>hypocritical virtue signalling woke retards. Real people with real
>disabilities don't like being disabled, and don't want others to be like
>them in order for them to feel good. Fucking woke morons!
>

REality vs what should be!

>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
>

[The Doctor]

In article <ujpv14$29ong$1...@dont-email.me>,

The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 24/11/2023 10:36, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 23/11/2023 21:02, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2...@dont-email.me>,
>>> The True Doctor  <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

>>>> How is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb stairs?

>>>> Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?
>>>
>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>> You've never researched stair-climbing wheelchairs, or
>>> attachements to permit wheelchairs to climb stairs?  They both
>>> exist.
>>
>> And how long would those take? By the time he got up the first step he'd
>> be exterminated. How is he supposed to crawl through air-conditioning
>> shafts, climb up rocks, travel across muddy fields, move through narrow
>> corridors, and climb up ladders?
>>
>> This is total woke stupidity.
>>
>> The Doctor's already been confined to a wheelchair before anyway.
>> William Hartnell in The Three Doctors, and he didn't do anything except
>> sit in one place and give instructions to his other selves. How long do
>> you think a series like that would last?
>>
>
>Peter Davison was also being wheeled around in a wheelchair in
>Castrovalva if I remember right. He's been there done that. There's no
>need to do it again.
>

and that was a temporary measure.

>> Real people with real disabilities have never been representing by these
>> hypocritical virtue signalling woke retards. Real people with real
>> disabilities don't like being disabled, and don't want others to be like
>> them in order for them to feel good. Fucking woke morons!
>>
>
>--
>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
>"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
>stands for." -William Shatner
>

[The True Doctor]

The woke want you to think that Hispanics are non-whites by appealing to
people's stupidity just like Squealer does in Animal Farm in order to
justify the pigs' lies and double standards.

Hispanics are of European origin just as are other white minorities such
as German Americans, English Americans, Irish Americans, Italian
Americans, Greek Americans, Bulgarian Americans, Norwegian Americans,
Dutch Americans and so on. Why don't the woke think they deserve to be
represented too? Norwegians don't identify with Hispanics, and Italians
don't identify with the English.

[The Doctor]

In article <ujpqnk$296dj$1...@dont-email.me>,

ND is female!

>--
>solar penguin

[Blueshirt]

Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

> In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2...@dont-email.me>,
> The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> > How the fuck is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb
> > stairs? Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?
>

> You've never researched stair-climbing wheelchairs, or
> attachements to permit wheelchairs to climb stairs? They both
> exist.

If Daleks can go up stairs* why not Davros? Is not the "Mark III
travel machine" not based on the life support/travel machine Davros
created for himself?




[*Since Remembrance of the Daleks]

[Scott Dorsey]

Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:

Neither one work very well. In order to make it work effectively, you
would really need anti-gravity, which is of course as impossible as
time travel.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Tim Merrigan]

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 16:19:12 +0000, The True Doctor
<agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

>On 23/11/2023 21:05, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <Dqu7N.129529$wvv7....@fx14.iad>,
>> trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:
>>> So in your diseased, syphilitic mind "diversity" means including whites
>>> also? That's so weird! Whites are in the majority, and "diversity" is
>>> SPECIFICALLY about including minorities. Would you say what you said
>>> was stupid or a lie?
>>
>> [Hal Heydt]
>> Where I live--California--non-Hispanic whites are a plurality,
>> but not a majority.
>
>The woke want you to think that Hispanics are non-whites by appealing to
>people's stupidity just like Squealer does in Animal Farm in order to
>justify the pigs' lies and double standards.
>
>Hispanics are of European origin just as are other white minorities such
>as German Americans, English Americans, Irish Americans, Italian
>Americans, Greek Americans, Bulgarian Americans, Norwegian Americans,
>Dutch Americans and so on. Why don't the woke think they deserve to be
>represented too? Norwegians don't identify with Hispanics, and Italians
>don't identify with the English.

I've heard that most "Hispanics", in America are partially, if not
entirely, Native American.

[The Doctor]

In article <nnd$1a642b54$288d3c46@374f66af19489340>,

Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
>> In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2...@dont-email.me>,
>> The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

>> > How is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb

>> > stairs? Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?
>>
>> You've never researched stair-climbing wheelchairs, or
>> attachements to permit wheelchairs to climb stairs? They both
>> exist.
>
>If Daleks can go up stairs* why not Davros? Is not the "Mark III
>travel machine" not based on the life support/travel machine Davros
>created for himself?
>
>

But limit to movement.

Recall Sorcerer?

>
>
>[*Since Remembrance of the Daleks]

[The Doctor]

In article <ujqruo$kea$1...@panix2.panix.com>,

Well...

>
>--
>"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[The Doctor]

In article <ptv1mi5medp2sbr7v...@4ax.com>,

Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 16:19:12 +0000, The True Doctor
><agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
>>On 23/11/2023 21:05, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article <Dqu7N.129529$wvv7....@fx14.iad>,
>>> trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:
>>>> So in your diseased, syphilitic mind "diversity" means including whites
>>>> also? That's so weird! Whites are in the majority, and "diversity" is
>>>> SPECIFICALLY about including minorities. Would you say what you said
>>>> was stupid or a lie?
>>>
>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>> Where I live--California--non-Hispanic whites are a plurality,
>>> but not a majority.
>>
>>The woke want you to think that Hispanics are non-whites by appealing to
>>people's stupidity just like Squealer does in Animal Farm in order to
>>justify the pigs' lies and double standards.
>>
>>Hispanics are of European origin just as are other white minorities such
>>as German Americans, English Americans, Irish Americans, Italian
>>Americans, Greek Americans, Bulgarian Americans, Norwegian Americans,
>>Dutch Americans and so on. Why don't the woke think they deserve to be
>>represented too? Norwegians don't identify with Hispanics, and Italians
>>don't identify with the English.
>
>
>I've heard that most "Hispanics", in America are partially, if not
>entirely, Native American.

Si Senor.

>--
>
>Qualified immunity = virtual impunity.
>
>Tim Merrigan
>
>--
>This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
>www.avg.com

[The True Doctor]

Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from the Timeless
Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in 2017 and is irrevivable
unless the Timeless Child monster is erased.

[Blueshirt]

Keep taking those pills... today especially...

[The Doctor]

In article <nnd$437168c4$1dc187ec@8992d791ece3bc04>,

What for a full adventure with the REAL 13th Doctor!

[Dorothy J Heydt]

In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1...@dont-email.me>,

[Hal Heydt]
Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?

[The Doctor]

In article <s4sLJ...@kithrup.com>,

Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:

Well The Timeless Child Era split the fandom to no bitter end!

[Blueshirt]

> Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?

That's just it... one [so called] fan of a TV show thinks that just
because he dislikes it, everyone else must dislike it too. His sense
of entitlement is nearly as big as his ego...

[Blueshirt]

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <s4sLJ...@kithrup.com>,
> Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
> > In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1...@dont-email.me>,
> >The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> > > On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
> >>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's not
> >>> up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity staff
> >>> at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about is
> >>> fanfic.
> > >
> > > Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from the
> > > Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in 2017
> > > and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is erased.
> >

> > Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>
> Well The Timeless Child Era split the fandom to no bitter end!

Fandom liking or not liking episodes of a TV show does not make those
episodes canonical or non-canonical. Fans have opinions. Opinions are
not always facts.

[Kevrob]

On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 11:19:14 AM UTC-5, The True Doctor wrote:
> On 23/11/2023 21:05, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > In article <Dqu7N.129529$wvv7....@fx14.iad>,
> > trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:
> >> So in your diseased, syphilitic mind "diversity" means including whites
> >> also? That's so weird! Whites are in the majority, and "diversity" is
> >> SPECIFICALLY about including minorities. Would you say what you said
> >> was stupid or a lie?
> >
> > [Hal Heydt]
> > Where I live--California--non-Hispanic whites are a plurality,
> > but not a majority.
> The woke want you to think that Hispanics are non-whites by appealing to
> people's stupidity just like Squealer does in Animal Farm in order to
> justify the pigs' lies and double standards.
>
> Hispanics are of European origin just as are other white minorities such
> as German Americans, English Americans, Irish Americans, Italian
> Americans, Greek Americans, Bulgarian Americans, Norwegian Americans,
> Dutch Americans and so on. Why don't the woke think they deserve to be
> represented too? Norwegians don't identify with Hispanics, and Italians
> don't identify with the English.
> --

In the US a Hispanic is someone who has ancestry from a Spanish-speaking
culture. It was a category popularized by our Census though there are older
instances.

[quote]

"pertaining to Spain" (especially ancient Spain) 1580s, from Latin Hispanicus, from
Hispania "Iberian Peninsula," from Hispanus "Spaniard" (see Spaniard). Specific
application to Spanish-speaking parts of the New World is from 1889, American
English; since c. 1972 especially applied to Spanish-speaking persons of Latin
American descent living in the U.S. As a noun meaning "Hispanic person" from 1972.

[/quote] - https://www.etymonline.com/word/hispanic

That's a bit sloppy as many Lusophones are also Latin Americans. But these are
linguistic, not racial divisions. Where race comes into it is the high percentage of
Spanish speakers in the New World with indigenous and/or African ancestry.

My Cuban-American sister-in-law is no "darker" than most of the Italian-American
girls I went to school with.

--
Kevin R

[The Doctor]

In article <nnd$3b00a04b$39e8fb69@f632f39814f1b044>,

Fact is the Timelss Child almost shelved Doctor Who!

[Daniel65]

Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:

We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that question,
Dorothy.
--
Daniel

[The Last Doctor]

That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At least
until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed last year.

--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor

[Daniel65]

The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:

Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.

Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
come to us all, sooner or later!
--
Daniel

[The Doctor]

In article <uk49o1$7598$4...@dont-email.me>,

IT happens around the drwho fandom.

[The Doctor]

In article <uk4d31$7ns5$1...@dont-email.me>,

You are arounf in rec.arts.sf.written there MM.

>--
>“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor

[The Doctor]

In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1...@dont-email.me>,

Well it is good to get a cross cultural exchange.

>--
>Daniel

[The Last Doctor]

The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <uk4d31$7ns5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>
>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At least
>> until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed last year.
>>
>

> You are around in rec.arts.sf.written there MM.

Used to be. And rec.arts.sf.composition, back in the days when I imagined
I’d make a writer. However you’ll find that my entry in the isfdb is rather
slim … probably about the same size as Earth’s entry in the Hitch Hikers
Guide to the Galaxy.

[The Doctor]

In article <uk53k5$bb78$1...@dont-email.me>,

The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>> In article <uk4d31$7ns5$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At least
>>> until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed last year.
>>>
>>
>> You are around in rec.arts.sf.written there MM.
>
>Used to be. And rec.arts.sf.composition, back in the days when I imagined
>I’d make a writer. However you’ll find that my entry in the isfdb is rather
>slim … probably about the same size as Earth’s entry in the Hitch Hikers
>Guide to the Galaxy.
>

Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...

>--
>“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor

[Blueshirt]

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <uk53k5$bb78$1...@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
> >
> > Used to be. And rec.arts.sf.composition, back in the days when I
> > imagined I’d make a writer. However you’ll find that my entry in the
> > isfdb is rather slim … probably about the same size as Earth’s entry
> > in the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.
>
> Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...

I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something about the
Disney version of it... as that is another one of your favourite broken
records. But for once, it's something that you are right about!!!

[The Doctor]

In article <xn0o9vkyx...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Disney's HHHTTG sucked.

[Daniel65]

The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:

> In article <xn0o9vkyx...@news.eternal-september.org>, Blueshirt
> <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <uk53k5$bb78$1...@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
>>> <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Used to be. And rec.arts.sf.composition, back in the days when

>>>> I imagined I’d make a writer. However you’ll find that my
>>>> entry in the isfdb is rather slim … probably about the same
>>>> size as Earth’s entry in the Hitch Hikers Guide to the

>>>> Galaxy.
>>>
>>> Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...
>>
>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something about
>> the Disney version of it... as that is another one of your
>> favourite broken records. But for once, it's something that you are
>> right about!!!
>
> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>

Can't say I've ever heard of that one, asswipe ...... EVER!!
--
Daniel

[%]

maybe if you got out more

[Daniel65]

But I've just been out doing some shopping! What more do you want??
--
Daniel

[The Doctor]

In article <uk61sv$ftmt$3...@dont-email.me>,

>Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!
>--
>Daniel

[The Doctor]

In article <OfucnUHOItfvEPv4...@giganews.com>,

>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!

>
>maybe if you got out more

It sucked! The BBC one rocked!

[The Doctor]

In article <uk6bdl$l2gt$2...@dont-email.me>,

Daniel65 <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>% wrote on 29/11/2023 12:01 pm:
>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>> In article <xn0o9vkyx...@news.eternal-september.org>, Blueshirt
>>>> <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> In article <uk53k5$bb78$1...@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
>>>>>> <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Used to be. And  rec.arts.sf.composition, back in the days when
>>>>>>> I imagined I’d make a writer. However you’ll find that my
>>>>>>> entry in the isfdb is rather slim … probably about the same
>>>>>>> size as Earth’s entry in the Hitch Hikers Guide to the
>>>>>>> Galaxy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something about
>>>>> the Disney version of it... as that is another one of your
>>>>> favourite broken records. But for once, it's something that you are
>>>>> right about!!!
>>>>
>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>>

>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!

>>
>> maybe if you got out more
>
>But I've just been out doing some shopping! What more do you want??
>--
>Daniel

Hey someone needs to go to the movies.

[Blueshirt]

They made a film version of it around twenty years ago... it wasn't
as good as the radio show.

It sucked! :-)

[Daniel65]

The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 2:52 pm:

> In article <uk6bdl$l2gt$2...@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> % wrote on 29/11/2023 12:01 pm:
>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>>> In article <xn0o9vkyx...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <uk53k5$bb78$1...@dont-email.me>, The Last
>>>>>>> Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Used to be. And rec.arts.sf.composition, back in the
>>>>>>>> days when I imagined I’d make a writer. However
>>>>>>>> you’ll find that my entry in the isfdb is rather
>>>>>>>> slim … probably about the same size as
>>>>>>>> Earth’s entry in the Hitch Hikers Guide to the

>>>>>>>> Galaxy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something
>>>>>> about the Disney version of it... as that is another one of
>>>>>> your favourite broken records. But for once, it's something
>>>>>> that you are right about!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>>>
>>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!
>>>
>>> maybe if you got out more
>>
>> But I've just been out doing some shopping! What more do you
>> want??
>

> Hey someone needs to go to the movies.
>

Yeah!! I probably DO need to go to the Movies, asswipe. I don't think
I've been since pre-CoViD-19!!
--
Daniel

[Daniel65]

The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 2:44 pm:

> In article <OfucnUHOItfvEPv4...@giganews.com>,
> % <purse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>>>> In article <xn0o9vkyx...@news.eternal-september.org>, Blueshirt
>>>> <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> In article <uk53k5$bb78$1...@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
>>>>>> <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Used to be. And  rec.arts.sf.composition, back in the days when
>>>>>>> I imagined I’d make a writer. However you’ll find that my
>>>>>>> entry in the isfdb is rather slim … probably about the same
>>>>>>> size as Earth’s entry in the Hitch Hikers Guide to the

>>>>>>> Galaxy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking about HHGTTG and Disney ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something about
>>>>> the Disney version of it... as that is another one of your
>>>>> favourite broken records. But for once, it's something that you are
>>>>> right about!!!
>>>>
>>>> Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>>>>
>>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!
>>
>> maybe if you got out more
>
> It sucked! The BBC one rocked!
>

Oh!! Really, asswipe? What was the Storyline of HHHTTG, of you don't
mind, asswipe??
--
Daniel

[Daniel65]

Blueshirt wrote on 29/11/23 10:19 pm:

Oh!! Is that right?? ;-P I knew they made a Yank Film of HHGTTG, but
I've never heard of HHHTTG!;-P
--
Daniel

[%]

you should go out more

[%]

well you're replying to a fake %

[The Doctor]

In article <nnd$311b38bb$6ad2cd7e@d4c9549014250007>,

Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>Daniel65 wrote:
>
>> The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
>> > In article <xn0o9vkyx...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> > Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something
>> > > about the Disney version of it... as that is another one of your
>> > > favourite broken records. But for once, it's something that you
>> > > are right about!!!
>> >
>> > Disney's HHHTTG sucked.
>> >

>> Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!

>
>They made a film version of it around twenty years ago... it wasn't
>as good as the radio show.
>
>It sucked! :-)

1/10 . Terrbile film.