Impressionable Kids and the Selling of Homosexuality
tim jones
By Linda Harvery
Impressionable Kids and the Selling of Homosexuality
A Culture & Family Institute Special Report
Josh is 13 and, like many kids his age, he's often unhappy. Everything
about his life is uncertain. He's only 5 feet 4 inches tall, and many
of the girls in his middle-school class are taller. He has no idea how
his body will end up. Will he be tall, short, plain, handsome? He's
slightly overweight and hasn't found a sport he excels in. He only has
two or three close friends. Sometimes his voice changes an entire
octave, up or down, at a moment's notice. He's an average student, and
he sometimes dreads going to school because it doesn't interest him
much.
On top of all this, Josh has troubles at home. His parents don't get
along. His father works long hours, and his mother yells a lot. She's
stressed out over unpaid bills, problems with his older sister, who
sometimes uses drugs, and her own ongoing treatment for depression.
They don't have family dinners except around holidays, and they
haven't been on a family vacation in two years. Josh can't remember
the last time he had a conversation with either parent involving more
than two sentences.
In other words, Josh is a lot like many American adolescents. His
family has only casual ties to a church, and his parents consider
themselves moderate politically, when they have time or interest to
think about it.
Josh's standards are being formed largely not by parents of high
character, but by the American culture, including television, his
public school and the Internet. That's where he developed a keen
curiosity about sex, and it's also where he gets his information and
values. And his values right now are leaning toward believing he might
be a homosexual.
He has absorbed information at school that most homosexuals are
victims of terrible discrimination, even sometimes violence, so "good"
people are those who accept homosexuality, bisexuality and gender
changes. Most of his teachers believe that homosexuality isn't a
choice and that students with same-sex attractions should just accept
them. At least three separate school offerings left him with these
ideas: a book on different types of families his teacher read aloud in
third grade; a sixth grade anti-bias and "tolerance" unit; and an
assignment in his literature class where he read a novel about teen
boys exploring homosexuality.1
After reading that book, he got on the Internet, found some Web sites
(including several "gay" porn sites) and decided he was homosexual. He
wanted to talk to someone but his parents were too busy, and they
probably wouldn't really object much anyway. The church they sometimes
attend had a sermon last year about the hatefulness of those "other"
churches that disapprove of homosexuality. His dad said he thought the
minister was probably "gay," and his mom just nodded. Josh has no
significant barriers to exploring homosexuality, because he has never
heard or read an opposing viewpoint. Not at school, not on any TV
sitcoms, not on the Internet (because relatively few sites exist), and
not at his church.
If he's a homosexual, he thinks, this would explain why he craves
being close to other boys. Sometimes he thinks it's just because he
never sees his dad, but he's not sure. Also, girls aren't interested
in him. Girls seem like a lot of trouble. It would be so much more fun
to be physical with someone who likes the same things he does -
Playstation, movies and role-playing games. And having sex without any
thoughts of pregnancy, commitment and all that serious stuff. Wouldn't
that be great? Besides, he was physically aroused looking at "gay"
porn sites. Doesn't that prove he must be a homosexual?
What he's considering now is visiting a local "gay" youth support
group that meets weekly in a nearby community center. He learned about
it in his school newspaper. He called the number and was told it's
open to kids age 12 and older, and they won't tell your parents.2 He
wonders what it would be like to meet someone who's already "gay."
After visiting those Web sites, Josh is eager to date, even - maybe -
to have a sexual experience. It would be all right, the Web sites
said, if he was "ready" for it, and he has decided he is. Also, it
would be okay if he was in love, like in the novel he read. He
probably ought to use a condom, but maybe the other person would be
older and know more about that than he does.
Inappropriate Access: The Corruption of the Innocent
Josh is not a real person, but a composite of different teens I have
learned about over the 10 years I've been researching this issue. The
tale is tragically similar; only the names change. The turbulence of
many American families coupled with the usual challenges of childhood
and adolescence present the opportunity for depravity to take hold in
the young mind and spirit. Children are being deliberately exploited
at a time when they are extremely vulnerable, and virtually no one, it
seems, is paying attention. Opportunities exist for them to get
involved in life-changing behaviors like homosexuality before their
parents have any idea.
There's lots of official support for exposing kids to early sex of all
kinds. As a recent, not-so-shining example, the Ninth Circuit Court of
Appeals in San Francisco ruled recently that parents had no right to
know about a very graphic sex survey given out to elementary school
students in California. In fact, the court said that parents have no
right to claim sole responsibility for their children's sex education.
A lower court had held the same opinion.3 So parents who send their
children to public school can increasingly expect not only little
support there for traditional values, but even greater risk.
Kids are being stimulated into premature sexual interest and fantasy,
and then told there's no reason not to "go for it." Other viewpoints -
those of caution - are being mocked or simply cut off. Schools often
give information without parental notice about multiple access points
to enter such behavior through "gay" community groups, homosexual
school clubs, local health clinics, Internet chat rooms, and
politically correct youth organizations and clubs. Don't expect
churches to be a refuge. In some cases, liberal, mainline churches
contribute greatly to the early sexualization of youth.
Easiest to manipulate are those young people who, on top of the usual
challenges of growing and changing during adolescence, have additional
issues with dysfunctional families and/or personal adjustment
problems. Without support and input from a church that is Biblically
faithful, the chance of such a teen getting into homosexuality or a
gender identity disorder is compounded.
Why are we allowing this to happen? The reason is simple: As a
society, we aren't protecting our kids from danger. When we turn on
the television, allow them to use the Internet, send them off to
school or, in some cases, when we take them to certain churches, we
are exposing them to harm.
We've opened up access to our children by those who are not
trustworthy.
When people have views supporting homosexuality, they should not be
involved with youth in any way, period. Because they:
* will provide inaccurate, misleading information to kids;
* may limit a student's opportunity to hear warnings about the
behavior;
* may advocate or model inappropriate behavior;
* may be directly involved in the molestation of kids themselves;
or
* may be in a position to allow others to do so.
The Creation of New Homosexuals
These warnings beg a very serious question: Can people, children in
this case, become homosexuals by exposure to certain ideas and
behavior? In other words, can a person who would not otherwise become
homosexual start the behavior, come to prefer it and form a habitual
addiction?
Can a society create more homosexuals? The answer quite clearly is
yes. That is how current homosexuals, in fact, came to be. There is no
credible evidence for a genetic origin for homosexuality. That may
come as a surprise to many people, but it's true. It's even more
astonishing when one realizes how many influential groups and people
now accept homosexuality as inborn for some. But when you look behind
the rhetoric, you find that there is nothing but wishful thinking. For
an excellent paper debunking this myth, see Culture and Family
Institute's Special Report Born or Bred.
New research has revealed what many have predicted for years because
of the media culture's constant promotion of homosexuality: More and
more Americans, especially youth, are experimenting with same-sex
sexual acts. A report from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) shows
that among people surveyed in 2002, 11 percent of the females have had
a "same-sex" sexual experience. This is up from 4 percent in a similar
report in 1992. Among just teen and young adult females, the number
was even higher-14 percent. Among males, homosexual experimentation
increased to 6 percent in 2002 compared to 4.9 percent in 1992.4
Despite the incredibly well-documented destructive outcomes from
homosexuality,
this unprecedented trend among young people is occurring with few
parental objections.
People, especially the young, can be seduced into homosexual behavior
and have their identities molded around the homosexual lifestyle
through a combination of persuasion and circumstances that may include
the following:
* being convinced homosexuality is acceptable;
* reading or viewing explicit homosexual pornography;
* having a close relationship with a peer who is practicing
homosexuality;
* admiring an older teacher or mentor who is homosexual;
* attending homosexual social venues (a "gay" club, bar, church
youth group);
* being homosexually molested;
* having parents who espouse homosexuality or engage in homosexual
activism;
* lacking strong ties to a church that remains faithful to the
historic Christian faith, and hostility toward traditional views.
The Role of Faith
Strong religious faith, especially traditional Christian morality,
often acts as a protective barrier to the development of homosexual
desire. When children grow up trusting God as the Designer of
masculinity and femininity, and if they are not sexually molested or
have their innocence assaulted by other traumatic events, their
feelings will be channeled normally toward heterosexual sex within
marriage as an obvious and desirable goal. The truth imparted by the
Holy Spirit in young believers hinders the harmful absorption of the
culture's deceit about homosexuality as well as other temptations.
But what happens when the church does not help young Christians grow
spiritually? When youth groups spend more time on games than on
understanding the Word of God? When they compromise with cultural
trends instead of remaining faithful?
Many churches avoid deconstructing the world's version of current,
hot, social topics. The deceptions of contemporary trends rush to fill
that vacuum, and so Christian youth buy into values that clearly
contradict Biblical teaching.
The Closed Mind of the American Teen
I hear from these kids all the time through e-mail. In researching
material on the Web, they come across our Web site and some react with
anger. It's not (I firmly believe) because there is anything
objectionable on our site. We never express "hatred" toward
homosexuals or anything like that. We only object to the behavior,
which (it is our firm conviction) is harmful and also changeable.
But the level of brainwashing of young people today is astounding.
They are trained to uncritically accept that a certain population
segment will inevitably be "GLBT" ("gay, lesbian, bisexual or
transgendered"). They hear over and over that any opposition to the
practice of homosexuality arises only out of hate and ignorance. This
propaganda is thorough and frightening because it envelops otherwise
keen young minds.
Here's an example, sent to us in 2004:
My name is Bree. I am a 15-year-old high school student and I
believe in no god. I have often considered certain religions but
Christianity seems to be the least appealing. … I am heterosexual and
yet have no problem with legal gay marriages. I want to know what
really is your problem with them? They are not harming anyone.
Yes, many people find it repulsive that two people of the same
gender could do such a thing. I wonder if they feel the same about
us. ... People often find arguments such as "Marriage is for the
continuation of our offspring." So does that mean that people who are
unable to have children cannot get married? To be honest, just about
every argument against legal gay marriage isn't valid or isn't really
a strong argument. I believe that if your god created everyone, He
created "gays" too, right? God created them that way. Just as he
created you the way you are, the way you look, who you are.
Christianity seems to be very hypocritical.
That's one of the nicer ones. Here's another example:
What happens to "Jesus loves everybody"? Oh, except you, you and
you. You people are so closed-minded. It is people like you that cause
teen suicides, for the teenage homosexual, one who is taught that it
is wrong, sinful, etc. He is in such turmoil, being judged, by people
like YOU!! He ends his life. You people are still living in the dark
ages. You think you are so much better than everybody. You really make
me sick. How can you call people sexual barbarians without looking in
the mirror? Or looking straight at the altar. Millions of people have
died from your religion. You are all such hypocrites. When will YOU
wake up?
While we often attempt a dialogue with teens who write to us with this
kind of rage, it usually doesn't get very far, because they keep
responding with different versions of the same irrationality. They
frequently don't even want to hear about God's love or the saving
power of Christ. They have been trained to believe traditional
Christians are evil; it will take personal interactions in their
schools and neighborhoods to convince them otherwise.
This type of anti-Christian hostility is shaping the mind of the
average American teen. Homosexuality is a faith issue. When will the
church of Jesus Christ in America grasp this? The faith of our
Christian youth is on the line and is being eroded because they are
hearing nothing but silence from adult Christians on these moral
issues.
There is a dearth of ammunition for debate in the youth marketplace of
ideas, and so darkness is overcoming our children because we refuse to
bring them light.
What Happens to Josh?
So what becomes of all the Joshes out there? They seldom hear another
viewpoint; they are seldom approached by Christian peers who will show
them a different way. It's not that our Christian kids don't want to;
they don't have enough information and are too intimidated to
challenge the easily provoked pro-"gay" advocates.
So, Josh will probably go ahead and attend a local "gay" community
group; then in high school, join the high school "GSA" ("gay"-straight
alliance, the name of many homosexual clubs). He probably will pair up
with an older homosexual and begin homosexual sex. His parents,
anxious to be politically correct, won't object and will eventually
come to accept his "lifestyle."
Josh's future probably holds a revolving door of sexual contacts, with
his first visit to a clinic to be treated for a sexually transmitted
disease at around age 17. Then, if he's typical, he'll be treated
annually for an STD of some type. Oh, and all those middle school
insecurities over appearance have been dispelled. He's turned into a
drop-dead gorgeous young man, but he has no interest in the
appreciative glances of young women. He's too much in demand at the
"gay" bars and bathhouses.
He is already drinking heavily, smoking and doing recreational drugs.
Somewhere along the line, he'll have several longer-term boyfriends,
and may even move in with one or two of them. Their break-ups will
happen after six months or a year, and be spectacular events
punctuated with drama, screaming fights and threats of self-harm,
contributing to the high rates of domestic violence cited for "gay"
males.
He will go to a counselor for treatment of depression, anxiety or an
eating disorder. Seeking some peace and stability, he'll join a "gay"-
friendly denomination like the Metropolitan Community Church. Along
the way, he may well become HIV-positive. In his 30s, he will start to
have relationships with boys who are 16 and 17, just as someone did
when he was a teen. He may even transmit the HIV virus to one or more
of them.
Josh is likely to die early, probably before 55 and very likely in his
40s. His grandmother will cry at his funeral, knowing he would have
made a great father and even grandfather. But it won't happen for him.
This was happiness? This is freedom? Why can't Josh be told the rest
of the story before it's too late?
W.T.S.
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> Fairy Tales Don't Come True
> By Linda Harvery
> Impressionable Kids and the Selling of Homosexuality
> A Culture & Family Institute Special Report
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Posting shit like this ought to get you castrated, bitch.
raven1
<timjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Most of his teachers believe that homosexuality isn't a
>choice and that students with same-sex attractions should just accept
>them.
Did you "choose" your own sexual orientation?
haiku jones
> Fairy Tales Don't Come True
> By Linda Harvery
>
Sorry, used books is the next group over.
By word count, that was just short of four
times as long as the Declaration of
Indepencence. You want anybody
to read these rants -- and I doubt
that you actually do -- then try posting
something that doesn't require two people
to pick it up.
Haiku Jones
Dakota
> Christianity seems to be the least appealing. 嚙皺 I am heterosexual and
By your reasoning, poor Josh was unable to learn about religion because the
amount of gay indoctrination in our society clearly overwhelmed any
exposure to religious viewpoints. In our society, in your view, religion is
difficult to learn about despite the fact that the vast majority of
Americans are Christian. Most American kids are brought up in a religious
tradition. Google brings up 70,500,000 responses to the inquiry "religion"
and only 2,080,000 for "homosexuality.
I'm more concerned about impressionable kids and the selling of religion
that leads to the hateful bigotry and intolerance that you espouse.
Pink Freud
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> Fairy Tales Don't Come True
> By Linda Harvery
>
<snip crap>
> They
> frequently don't even want to hear about God's love or the saving
> power of Christ.
So why don't you take the hint, moron?
John W Kennedy
> They
> frequently don't even want to hear about God's love or the saving
> power of Christ.
There, you see! You've already established common ground!
--
John W. Kennedy
"The blind rulers of Logres
Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
-- Charles Williams. "Taliessin through Logres: Prelude"
Sanity's Little Helper
> Here's an example, sent to us in 2004:
>
> My name is Bree. I am a 15-year-old high school student and I
> believe in no god. I have often considered certain religions but
> Christianity seems to be the least appealing. 嚙皺 I am heterosexual and
Rage? what the flying FUCK?????? Rage is what YOU feel at being asked
PERFECTLY REASONABLE questions.
YOU ALREADY KNOW THE FUCKING ANSWERS, AND YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT THE ANSWERS
MAKE YOU AND YOUR SICK, TWISTED RELIGION WRONG A MILLION TIMES OVER.
There, _that_ is rage. See the difference?
--
David Silverman
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Defender of Civilisation
"Christian" (n). A person who views insulting non-Christians as a sacred
duity, and any response as persecution
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anonymous
tendencies or homosexual attractions at different points in their life -
most often, of courses, when they are in their early teens. But the
difference is that these boys are attracted to girls. There are only
three main possibilities. A guy is attracted to girls or a guy is
attracted to boys. Or guy may be attracted to girls and he is uncertain
about his attractions to guys.
> He has absorbed information at school that most homosexuals are
> victims of terrible discrimination, even sometimes violence, so "good"
> people are those who accept homosexuality, bisexuality and gender
> changes.
That sentence doesn't make sense but not to worry. You see, what you
leaving out the story is peer pressure. Even if a kid has no friends,
his peers make it damn clear that nobody but nobody accepts
homosexuality. It standard is everybody fights homosexuality.
Most of his teachers believe that homosexuality isn't a
> choice and that students with same-sex attractions should just accept
> them.
I don't think society is even saying anyone has to accept homosexuality
or same sex attraction. What society is saying is that it isn't okay to
harm people who are different including homosexuals.
At least three separate school offerings left him with these
> ideas: a book on different types of families his teacher read aloud in
> third grade; a sixth grade anti-bias and "tolerance" unit; and an
> assignment in his literature class where he read a novel about teen
> boys exploring homosexuality.1
>
Sadly, we the reader don't know what these books say and we don't have
the titles so it is just guess work of the wildest kind and that weakens
this whole little posting.
> After reading that book, he got on the Internet, found some Web sites
> (including several "gay" porn sites) and decided he was homosexual.
Well, the kid either got an erection from seeing the gay porn or he
didn't. It is fairly cut and dried. When people in their 50s were
young teens there wasn't that much porn but stories about men. When a
teenager read them, he either had an erection or he didn't.
> He
> wanted to talk to someone but his parents were too busy, and they
> probably wouldn't really object much anyway. The church they sometimes
> attend had a sermon last year about the hatefulness of those "other"
> churches that disapprove of homosexuality. His dad said he thought the
> minister was probably "gay," and his mom just nodded. Josh has no
> significant barriers to exploring homosexuality, because he has never
> heard or read an opposing viewpoint.
You see, more credibility issues with this story. The whole world says
anti gay thing every minute of the day. There are really no positive
images of homosexuals or any peers who would say positive things about
homosexuals. But nice try.
> Not at school, not on any TV
> sitcoms, not on the Internet (because relatively few sites exist), and
> not at his church.
>
> If he's a homosexual, he thinks, this would explain why he craves
> being close to other boys.
Hey lots of boys seek closer relationships with other guys, lots of
young kids share tents and sleeping bags, but they don't get erections
in the form of attraction for the kid next to them. Sure young teen
boys get erection almost 24 hours a day but they erection aren't tied to
attraction to the guys around him unless he is a homosexual.
> Sometimes he thinks it's just because he
> never sees his dad, but he's not sure.
See a dad with no clothes doesn't make a boy heterosexual or
homosexual. I has nothing to do with homosexuality. More like, seeing
his mother all the time becomes such a familiar smell that women in
general don't turn the guy on. Guys get turned on by differences not by
something similar. So if a guy is around girls and women all the time
while growing up and there are few other guys in his life or more
importantly close to him in his life, then what is unfamiliar in his
life is the smell of other guys, the voices of other guys, the sight and
observation of other guys and these connect with too much women present
in their lives can contribute to homosexuality.
> Also, girls aren't interested
> in him.
There are only two times of boys girls don't like. A guy who is filthy,
picks his nose, scratches his ass and is just a pig that won't change
and doesn't want to change and guys that are gay. Now the pig guy will
likely have to hire a prostitute or find a woman with habits like
himself. Gays will do their own thing. Guys who are attracted to women
will do anything to get a woman's attention including paying money.
They will go all over the internet looking for women, they will try to
talk to women everywhere they go. The will sit by women every chance
they get whether they smell bad or have dirty clothes on. If you are a
guy with a sexual attraction to women you will generally stop at nothing
until you get sex.
> Girls seem like a lot of trouble. actually, girls are a lot of trouble but heteroseuxal guys like that. Homosexuals get along with girls but don't have to take crap from them because there is nothing in a woman for them, so girls are generally very nice to gay guys because they don't have to keep their guard up that the guy is going to jump her boys the minute she has a drink, feels tired or says something nice to the guy.
> It would be so much more fun
> to be physical with someone who likes the same things he does -
> Playstation, movies and role-playing games. And having sex without any
> thoughts of pregnancy, commitment and all that serious stuff. Wouldn't
> that be great? Besides, he was physically aroused looking at "gay"
> porn sites. Doesn't that prove he must be a homosexual?
Straight guys like guys' company but it is especially true because the
guys can smell a little strong, they can fart and swear and do guy
things but the guys don't have to worry about the next guy trying to
jump his bones or crawl into bed with him or make a move on him when he
passes out on the floor. Heterosexual men aren't attracted to other
guys. It is that simple. You are either a homosexual or a heterosexual
and bisexuals want to identify as heterosexual.
Guys of all ages get aroused. But the clear question is are you aroused
and sexually attracted to another guy. Guys may not clearly understand
homosexuality or homosexuals but the clearly understand whether they are
attracted to another guy or not. What they do about either is another
matter entirely but the attraction part they know.
>
> What he's considering now is visiting a local "gay" youth support
> group that meets weekly in a nearby community center. He learned about
> it in his school newspaper. He called the number and was told it's
> open to kids age 12 and older, and they won't tell your parents.2 He
> wonders what it would be like to meet someone who's already "gay."
Well, unfortunately there are generally two types of young gays. Those
that are extra effeminate and those that are less effeminate.
Homosexuals young men who can pass as gay generally do not go to youth
support groups because they haven't been rejected by society for being
effeminate among other attributes. Masculine guys or teens can you
might say have it all, or any kind of sex they want. There are always
lots of discreet peers female and male to explore with. So what I am
saying is that if they kid isn't a raging homosexual/fag, he will likely
run fast and far from the support group. Don't believe me, to a
community centre and even if you are too old to join or too young to
join, you can see these kids from a distance or open door or linked up
at a local coffee shop with no mistake.
> After visiting those Web sites, Josh is eager to date, even - maybe -
> to have a sexual experience.
All teens want sexual experience, especially boys from the minute their
testicle drop.
> It would be all right, the Web sites
> said, if he was "ready" for it, and he has decided he is. Also, it
> would be okay if he was in love, like in the novel he read. He
> probably ought to use a condom, but maybe the other person would be
> older and know more about that than he does.
Oh, kids, young men and old men all fantasize about sex in clear and not
so clear images, but most people who have never had sex run away from
opportunities the first few times or lots of times because what they
thought would be a romeo and Juliet
Most guys want blow jobs be they straight or gay. They want to be done
or get done.
They may not even want to do the other guy for several reasons.
>
> this unprecedented trend among young people is occurring with few
> parental objections.
Lots of parents don't have a clear idea what is happening. With society
so focused on trying keep a job, find a wife, produce offspring, keep
food on the table, it is a challenge.
>
> People, especially the young, can be seduced into homosexual behavior
> and have their identities molded around the homosexual lifestyle
> through a combination of persuasion and circumstances that may include
> the following:
No truer words can be said, especially if we can add the little sisters
who are seduced by older guys in their 20s wanting to pop the 12 or 13
or 15 year old girl's cherry.
But again a key ingredient is attraction. Now, getting a teenager drunk
and forcing sex
on the kid is not homosexuality or in the case of a person of the
opposite sex heterosexuality. It is rape of an under aged person which
has lots of jail time attached of caught and prosecuted and convicted.
>
> * being convinced homosexuality is acceptable;
Well, there are guys who are heterosexual who think homosexuality is
acceptable but if they aren't homosexual, they aren't wanting to
participate in it. All homosexuals
think heterosexuality is acceptable but homosexuals don't want to
participate in heterosexual sex.
>
> * reading or viewing explicit homosexual pornography;
>
Well, walk into any magazine department that has sexually explicit
material. Show any guy there who is looking at magazines of girls a
gay porno fold out or any example of homosexual pornography. See if he
doesn't threaten you or leave the area entirely.
> * having a close relationship with a peer who is practicing
> homosexuality;
Well, I am not sure what is meant by a practising homosexual. Just
because a guy is a homosexual doesn't make him interest or in any way
cause another person to be attracted to homosexuality. Homosexuals and
heterosexuals have lots of friends but that doesn't make them attracted
to their friends sexually.
>
> * admiring an older teacher or mentor who is homosexual;
>
Well, admiring an older teacher, what a woman or a man? Admiring
someone doesn't mean you want to fuck them whether they are homosexual
or heterosexual.
> * attending homosexual social venues (a "gay" club, bar, church
> youth group);
>
Most of those groups are pretty weird and even more weird to somebody
who has no previous exposure to homosexual/gays.
> * being homosexually molested;
Any guy or girl who is sexually molested if screwed up for life. Plain
and simple.
Being sexually molested doesn't change the sexual attraction. Cops have
historically raped teens and young men and women in compromised
situations. The victims keep their sexuality or who they are attracted
to but one can add to that they are screwed up physically, mentally, and
socially for the rest of their lives.
>
> * having parents who espouse homosexuality or engage in homosexual
> activism;
Lots of homosexuals have offspring but that doesn't make their kids
homosexual.
Lots of young men have hung around brothels throughout history and in so
doing it doesn't change that person's sexual attraction.
>
> * lacking strong ties to a church that remains faithful to the
> historic Christian faith, and hostility toward traditional views.
>
The church is about paying somebody to tell you what you should
believe.
That can't change your sexual orientation.
> The Role of Faith
> Strong religious faith, especially traditional Christian morality,
> often acts as a protective barrier to the development of homosexual
> desire.
The word on the street is that anyone with a religious background or
upbringing has way more issues and problems with identifying with
homosexuality. Guilt is the operative word.
> When children grow up trusting God as the Designer of
> masculinity and femininity, and if they are not sexually molested or
> have their innocence assaulted by other traumatic events, their
> feelings will be channeled normally toward heterosexual sex within
> marriage as an obvious and desirable goal.
Well, my boy, if you have a son and he hangs out with his mother because
the christian father spends his spare time pissed at the bar or he
travels away on business most of the time, they boy won't have a lot of
peer masculine pressure regardless of how christian he is.
> The truth imparted by the
> Holy Spirit in young believers hinders the harmful absorption of the
> culture's deceit about homosexuality as well as other temptations.
>
Not sure what you are saying there but the life of a homosexual is
awesome but it is only awesome for homosexuals. For the most part live
for a heterosexual is awesome until they get married then marriage can
get dirty and nasty.
> But what happens when the church does not help young Christians grow
> spiritually? When youth groups spend more time on games than on
> understanding the Word of God? When they compromise with cultural
> trends instead of remaining faithful?
>
> Many churches avoid deconstructing the world's version of current,
> hot, social topics. The deceptions of contemporary trends rush to fill
> that vacuum, and so Christian youth buy into values that clearly
> contradict Biblical teaching.
>
> The Closed Mind of the American Teen
> I hear from these kids all the time through e-mail. In researching
> material on the Web, they come across our Web site and some react with
> anger. It's not (I firmly believe) because there is anything
> objectionable on our site. We never express "hatred" toward
> homosexuals or anything like that. We only object to the behavior,
> which (it is our firm conviction) is harmful and also changeable.
>
Stop right there. You tell me how any male who gets an erection from
looking at women can then with the help of God get an erection looking
at men. And for homosexuals it would be the opposite.
> But the level of brainwashing of young people today is astounding.
> They are trained to uncritically accept that a certain population
> segment will inevitably be "GLBT" ("gay, lesbian, bisexual or
> transgendered"). They hear over and over that any opposition to the
> practice of homosexuality arises only out of hate and ignorance. This
> propaganda is thorough and frightening because it envelops otherwise
> keen young minds.
>
The world today as it has almost from the beginning of time objects to
homosexuality. Plain and simple.. The only thing any person can't do
is wish harm for homosexuals.
The life of the average heterosexual isn't just like Tiger's life
anymore than the average life of a homosexual is the way you describe
it.
The basic fact is that homosexuals are created by heterosexual and
heterosexuals don't want anything to do with their homosexual offspring.
elizabeth
> tim jones wrote:
So you're saying all men are rapists and just wait for an opportunity
to jump on someone's bones . . . .funny thing is, the hetboyz who are
so terrified of this are so fugly they are in no danger, and the real
problem is not that they fear that a gay man won't take no for an
answer, but that they will say YES! You sound like you're the sort
who is afraid gay men will treat you the way you treat women, and who
wouldn't be terrified of that?
ASSuming facts not in evidence. . . ..
> That sentence doesn't make sense but not to worry. You see, what you
> leaving out the story is peer pressure. Even if a kid has no friends,
> his peers make it damn clear that nobody but nobody accepts
> homosexuality. It standard is everybody fights homosexuality.
Nope.
> Most of his teachers believe that homosexuality isn't a
>
> > choice and that students with same-sex attractions should just accept
> > them.
>
> I don't think society is even saying anyone has to accept homosexuality
> or same sex attraction. What society is saying is that it isn't okay to
> harm people who are different including homosexuals.
What I say is that homophobes are also misogynists, and the best way
to handle them is with a loaded shotgun.
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> On Dec 8, 10:51�am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:55:58 -0800 (PST), tim jones
>>
>> <timjoes4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Most of his teachers believe that homosexuality isn't a
>> >choice and that students with same-sex attractions should just
>> >accept them.
>>
>> Did you "choose" your own sexual orientation?
>
> Uh, I think the main problem is nobody chooses his sexuality.
Defined is a better word. It's defined when a homosexual first molests
the victim.
spi...@freenet.co.uk
> On 08 Dec 2009, elizabeth <efra...@hotmail.com> posted some
> news:57ef9269-30e2-401c...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com:
>
>>> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:55:58 -0800 (PST), tim jones
>>>
>>> <timjoes4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >Most of his teachers believe that homosexuality isn't a
>>> >choice and that students with same-sex attractions should just
>>> >accept them.
>>>
>>> Did you "choose" your own sexual orientation?
>>
>> Uh, I think the main problem is nobody chooses his sexuality.
>
> Defined is a better word. It's defined when a homosexual first molests
> the victim.
Molests? FFS...
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