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MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO


By Paul Cameron, Ph.D.


Throughout history, the major civilizations major religions condemned
homosexuality.1 Until 1961 homosexual acts were illegal throughout
America.

Gays claim that the "prevailing attitude toward homosexuals in the
U.S.
and many other countries is revulsion and hostility....for acts and
desires not harmful to anyone."3 The American Psychological
Association
and the American Public Health Association assured the U.S. Supreme
Court in 1986 that "no significant data show that engaging in...oral
and anal sex, results in mental or physical dysfunction."4

What Homosexuals Do
The major surveys on homosexual behavior are summarized below. Two
things stand out 1) homosexuals behave similarly world-over, and 2) as
Harvard Medical Professor, Dr. William Haseltine,33 noted in 1993, the
"changes in sexual behavior that have been reported to have occurred
in
some groups have proved, for the most part, to be transient. For
example, bath houses and sex clubs in many cities have either reopened
or were never closed."

Homosexual Activities (in %)
US16 US13 US US18 Denmark20 US19 London27 Sydney/London26
Canada25

1940s1977 83/84 1983 1984 1983 1985 1991

ever ever ever in yr in yr in mo in mo last 6mo

oral/penile 83 99 100/99 99 86 67

anal/penile 68 91 93/98 95 92 95 100

oral/anal 59 83 92/92 63 69 89 55/65

urine sex 10 23 29/

fisting/toys 22 41/47 34
fecal sex-eating 4 8

enemas 11 11

torture sex 22 37 37

public/orgy sex 61 76 88

sex with minors 37 23 24/


ORAL SEX Homosexuals fellate almost all of their sexual contacts (and
ingest semen from about half of these). Semen contains many of the
germs carried in the blood. Because of this, gays who practice oral
sex
verge on consuming raw human blood, with all its medical risks. Since
the penis often has tiny lesions (and often will have been in
unsanitary places such as a rectum), individuals so involved may
become
infected with hepatitis A or gonorrhea (and even HIV and hepatitis B).
Since many contacts occur between strangers (70% of gays estimated
that
they had had sex only once with over half of their partners17,27), and
gays average somewhere between 106 and 1105 different partners/year,
the potential for infection is considerable.

RECTAL SEX Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have engaged in
rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly. In a 6-month
long study of daily sexual diaries,3 gays averaged 110 sex partners
and
68 rectal encounters a year.

Rectal sex is dangerous. During rectal intercourse the rectum becomes
a
mixing bowl for 1) saliva and its germs and/or an artificial
lubricant,
2) the recipient's own feces, 3) whatever germs, infections or
substances the penis has on it, and 4) the seminal fluid of the
inserter. Since sperm readily penetrate the rectal wall (which is only
one cell thick) causing immunologic damage, and tearing or bruising of
the anal wall is very common during anal/penile sex, these substances
gain almost direct access to the blood stream. Unlike heterosexual
intercourse (in which sperm cannot penetrate the multilayered vagina
and no feces are present),7 rectal intercourse is probably the most
sexually efficient way to spread hepatitis B, HIV syphilis and a host
of other blood-borne diseases.

Tearing or ripping of the anal wall is especially likely with
"fisting," where the hand and arm is inserted into the rectum. It is
also common when "toys" are employed (homosexual lingo for objects
which are inserted into the rectum--bottles, carrots, even gerbils8).
The risk of contamination and/or having to wear a colostomy bag from
such "sport" is very real. Fisting was apparently so rare in Kinsey's
time that he didn't think to talk about it. By 1977, well over a third
of gays admitted to doing it. The rectum was not designed to
accommodate the fist, and those who do so can find themselves
consigned
to diapers for life.

FECAL SEX About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking and/or
inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting
medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it
are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the
gays
had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result?
--the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22
percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26
it was noted that the proportion of London gays engaging in oral/anal
sex had not declined since 1984.

While the body has defenses against fecal germs, exposure to the fecal
discharge of dozens of strangers each year is extremely unhealthy.
Ingestion of human waste is the major route of contracting hepatitis A
and the enteric parasites collectively known as the Gay Bowel
Syndrome.
Consumption of feces has also been implicated in the transmission of
typhoid fever,9 herpes, and cancer.27 About 10% of gays have eaten or
played with [e.g., enemas, wallowing in feces]. The San Francisco
Department of Public Health saw 75,000 patients per year, of whom 70
to
80 per cent are homosexual men....An average of 10 per cent of all
patients and asymptomatic contacts reported...because of positive
fecal
samples or cultures for amoeba, giardia, and shigella infections were
employed as food handlers in public establishments; almost 5 per cent
of those with hepatitis A were similarly employed."10 In 1976, a rare
airborne scarlet fever broke out among gays and just missed sweeping
through San Francisco.10 The U.S. Centers for Disease Control reported
that 29% of the hepatitis A cases in Denver, 66% in New York, 50% in
San Francisco, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal and 26% in Melbourne in
the first six months of 1991 were among gays.11 A 1982 study
"suggested
that some transmission from the homosexual group to the general
population may have occurred."12

URINE SEX About 10% of Kinsey's gays reported having engaged in
"golden
showers" [drinking or being splashed with urine]. In the largest
survey
of gays ever conducted,13 23% admitted to urine-sex. In the largest
random survey of gays,6 29% reported urine-sex. In a San Francisco
study of 655 gays,14 only 24% claimed to have been monogamous in the
past year. Of these monogamous gays, 5% drank urine, 7% practiced
"fisting," 33% ingested feces via anal/oral contact, 53% swallowed
semen, and 59% received semen in their rectum during the previous
month.

OTHER GAY SEX PRACTICES
SADOMASOCHISM as the Table indicates, a large minority of gays engage
in torture for sexual fun. Sex with minors 25% of white gays17
admitted
to sex with boys 16 or younger as adults. In a 9-state study,30 33% of
the 181 male, and 22% of the 18 female teachers caught molesting
students did so homosexually (though less than 3% of men and 2% of
women engage in homosexuality31). Depending on the study, the percent
of gays reporting sex in public restrooms ranged from 14%16 to 41%13
to
66%,6 9%16, 60%13 and 67%5 reported sex in gay baths; 64%16 and 90%18
said that they used illegal drugs.

Fear of AIDS may have reduced the volume of gay sex partners, but the
numbers are prodigious by any standard. Morin15 reported that 824 gays
had lowered their sex-rate from 70 different partners/yr. in 1982 to
50/yr. by 1984. McKusick14 reported declines from 76/yr. to 47/yr. in
1985. In Spain32 the average was 42/yr. in 1989.

Medical Consequences of Homosexual Sex
Death and disease accompany promiscuous and unsanitary sexual
activity.
70%25 to 78%x,13 of gays reported having had a sexually transmitted
disease. The proportion with intestinal parasites (worms, flukes,
amoeba) ranged from 25%18 to 39%19 to 59%.20 As of 1992, 83% of U.S.
AIDS in whites had occurred in gays.21 The Seattle sexual diary
study3?
reported that gays had, on a yearly average:

fellated 108 men and swallowed semen from 48;
exchanged saliva with 96;
experienced 68 penile penetrations of the anus; and
ingested fecal material from 19.
No wonder 10% came down with hepatitis B and 7% contracted hepatitis A
during the 6-month study.

Effects on the Lifespan
Smokers and drug addicts don't live as long as non-smokers or
non-addicts, so we consider smoking and narcotics abuse harmful. The
typical life-span of homosexuals suggests that their activities are
more destructive than smoking nd as dangerous as drugs.

Obituaries numbering 6,516 from 16 U.S. homosexual journals over the
past 12 years were compared to a large sample of obituaries from
regular newspapers.23 The obituaries from the regular newspapers were
similar to U.S. averages for longevity; the medium age of death of
married men was 75, and 80% of them died old (age 65 or older). For
unmarried or divorced men the median age of death was 57, and 32% of
them died old. Married women averaged age 79 at death; 85% died old.
Unmarried and divorced women averaged age 71, and 60% of them died
old.

The median age of death for homosexuals, however, was virtually the
same nationwide--and, overall, less than 2% survived to old age. If
AIDS was the cause of death, the median age was 39. For the 829 gays
who died of something other than AIDS, the median age of death was 42,
and 9% died old. The 163 lesbians had a median age of death of 44, and
20% died old.

Two and eight-tenths percent (2.8%) of gays died violently. They were
116 times more apt to be murdered; 24 times more apt to commit
suicide;
and had a traffic-accident death-rate 18 times the rate of
comparably-aged white males. Heart attacks, cancer and liver failure
were exceptionally common. Twenty percent of lesbians died of murder,
suicide, or accident--a rate 487 times higher than that of white
females aged 25-44. The age distribution of samples of homosexuals in
the scientific literature from 1989 to 1992 suggests a similarly
shortened life-span.

The Gay Legacy
Homosexuals rode into the dawn of sexual freedom and returned with a
plague that gives every indication of destroying most of them. Those
who treat AIDS patients are at great risk, not only from HIV
infection,
which as of 1992 involved over 100 health care workers,21 but also
from
TB and new strains of other diseases.24 Those who are housed with AIDS
patients are also at risk.24 Those who are housed with AIDS patients
are also at risk.24 Dr. Max Essex, chair of the Harvard AIDS
Institute,
warned congress in 1992 that "AIDS has already led to other kinds of
dangerous epidemics...If AIDS is not eliminated, other new lethal
microbes will emerge, and neither safe sex nor drug free practices
will
prevent them."28 At least 8, and perhaps as many as 30 29 patients had
been infected with HIV by health care workers as of 1992.

The Biological Swapmeet
The typical sexual practices of homosexuals are a medical horror story
--imagine exchanging saliva, feces, semen and/or blood with dozens of
different men each year. Imagine drinking urine, ingesting feces and
experiencing rectal trauma on a regular basis. Often these encounters
occur while the participants are drunk, high, and/or in an orgy
setting. Further, many of them occur in extremely unsanitary places
(bathrooms, dirty peep shows), or, because homosexuals travel so
frequently, in other parts of the world.

Every year, a quarter or more of homosexuals visit another country.20
Fresh American germs get taken to Europe, Africa and Asia. And fresh
pathogens from these continents come here. Foreign homosexuals
regularly visit the U.S. and participate in this biological swapmeet.

The Pattern of Infection
Unfortunately the danger of these exchanges does not merely affect
homosexuals. Travelers carried so many tropical diseases to New York
City that it had to institute a tropical disease center, and gays
carried HIV from New York City to the rest of the world.27 Most of the
6,349 Americans who got AIDS from contaminated blood as of 1992,
received it from homosexuals and most of the women in California who
got AIDS through heterosexual activity got it from men who engaged in
homosexual behavior.23 The rare form of airborne scarlet fever that
stalked San Francisco in 1976 also started among homosexuals.10

Genuine Compassion
Society is legitimately concerned with health risks-- they impact our
taxes and everyone's chances of illness and injury. Because we care
about them, smokers are discouraged from smoking by higher insurance
premiums, taxes on cigarettes and bans against smoking in public.
These
social pressures cause many to quit. They likewise encourage
non-smokers to stay non-smokers.

Homosexuals are sexually troubled people engaging in dangerous
activities. Because we care about them and those tempted to join them,
it is important that we neither encourage nor legitimize such a
destructive lifestyle.


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References
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2. Pines B. BACK TO BASICS. NY Morrow, 1982, p. 211.

3. Weinberg G. SOCIETY AND THE HEALTHY HOMOSEXUAL. NY St. Martin's,
1972, preface.

4. Amici curiae brief, in Bowers v. Hardwick, 1986.

5. Corey L. & Holmes, K.K. Sexual transmission of Hepatitis A in
homosexual men. "New England Journal of Medicine," 1980302435- 38.

6. Cameron P et al Sexual orientation and sexually transmitted
disease.
"Nebraska Medical Journal," 198570292-99; Effect of homosexuality upon
public health and social order "Psychological Reports," 1989, 64,
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7. Manligit, G.W. et al Chronic immune stimulation by sperm alloan-
tigens. "Journal of the American Medical Association," 1984251 237-38.

8. Cecil Adams, "The Straight Dope," THE READER (Chicago, 3/28/86)
[Adams writes authoritatively on counter-culture material, his column
is carried in many alternative newspapers across the U.S. and Canada].

9. Dritz, S. & Braff. Sexually transmitted typhoid fever. "New England
Journal of Medicine," 19772961359-60.

10. Dritz, S. Medical aspects of homosexuality. "New England Journal
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Medicine," 1980302463-4.

11. CDC Hepatitis A among homosexual men --United States, Canada, and
Australia. MMWR 199241155-64.

12. Christenson B. et al. An epidemic outbreak of hepatitis A among
homosexual men in Stockholm, "American Journal of Epidemiology,"
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13. Jay, K. & Young, A. THE GAY REPORT. NY Summit, 1979.

14. McKusick, L. et al AIDS and sexual behaviors reported by gay men
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San Francisco, "American Journal of Public Health," 1985 75493- 96.

15. USA Today 11/21/84.

16. Gebhard, P. & Johnson, A. THE KINSEY DATA. NY Saunders, 1979.

17. Bell, A. & Weinberg, M. HOMOSEXUALITIES. NY Simon & Schuster,
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18. Jaffee, H. et al. National case-control study of Kaposi's sarcoma.
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19. Quinn, T. C. et al. The polymicrobial origin of intestinal
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20. Biggar, R. J. Low T-lymphocyte ratios in homosexual men. "Journal
Of The American Medical Association," 19842511441-46; "Wall Street
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22. Chu, S. et al. AIDS in bisexual men in the U.S. "American Journal
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23. Cameron, P., Playfair, W. & Wellum, S. The lifespan of homo-
sexuals. Paper presented at Eastern Psychological Association
Convention, April 17, 1993.

24. Dooley, W.W. et al. Nosocomial transmission of tuberculosis in a
hospital unit for HIV-invected patients. "Journal of the American
Medical Association," 19922672632-35.

25. Schechter, M.T. et al. Changes in sexual behavior and fear of
AIDS.
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26. Elford, J. et al. Kaposi's sarcoma and insertive rimming.
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1992339938.

27. Beral, V. et al. Risk of Kaposi's sarcoma and sexual practices
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Ray Fischer

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Dec 15, 2009, 1:24:02 AM12/15/09
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tj <timjo...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO

Rabid bigotry.

>By Paul Cameron


>
>Throughout history, the major civilizations major religions condemned
>homosexuality.

And advocated war and killing.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Zacharias Mulletstein

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Yes! YES! YEEEEEES! That is so disgusting, so sinfully gross, so decadent,
so wrong.

JohnN

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Dec 15, 2009, 1:49:29 AM12/15/09
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On Dec 15, 12:45 am, tj <timjone...@hushmail.com> wrote:

Paul Cameron aside, 1) what do you believe?
2) what homosexuals do is none of your business.

JohnN

Uncle Vic

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Dec 15, 2009, 1:54:42 AM12/15/09
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One fine day in alt.atheism, tj <timjo...@hushmail.com> wrote:

> MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO

What the hell do you care? If there are medical consequences, it makes
work for doctors, who pay into the Social Security system, which benefits
YOU in the long run.

I think you are FAR too interested in homosexuality. Are you still in the
closet? Are you, fag?

--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.

Uncle Vic

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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zmulle...@isright.com> wrote:

> Yes! YES! YEEEEEES! That is so disgusting, so sinfully gross, so
> decadent, so wrong.

Can I get you a towel?

NefeshBarYohai

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Dec 15, 2009, 3:52:11 AM12/15/09
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All male homosexuals and males that have become females that are
transsexuals should in all honesty be put to death immediately for the
betterment and good of the moral fiber of all humanity. These people
are lower than dogs they have no concept of decency or modesty. We
should put a bounty on them and hunt them down like the contaminated
homosexuals they are so that HaShem will bless us and not punish us
for appeasing theses stinkers and filthy mongrels of indecency. As
far as for female homosexuals we should arrest them and let all the
male sexual deviates and perverts satisfy themselves by raping and
humping the female homosexuals. It's only right and natural to shun
these demons that destroy the fabric of all that is good in a non-
sodomistic society. KILL THEM AND CRUCIFY THEM NOW!!!!!

I'm just kidding. As long as homos are not cooking my food or sharing
any type of sanitary facility with me instead of crucifying them, why
not just drop them in a pit with rabid hungry wolves?

What would Jesus say? Have you noticed there is no reference to
homosexuals in the NT? Frankly, I don’t think Jesus approves of
homosexuality. Sodomy is a form of fornication and Jesus and his
followers don’t condone fornication.

What would King David say about homosexuality? I think King David
would not approve of homosexuality since the Torah forbids
homosexuality.

What does Islam say about homosexuality? I’ve read the Koran and I
have not seen anything in the Koran to justify or not justify
homosexuality.

But then you have to put yourself in the body of a male homosexual.
For all intent and purpose, these wretched creatures have all the
desires of a woman but have the reproductive organs of a man. And the
female homosexuals have all the desires and feelings of a man but have
the reproductive organs of a woman.
If you think about it, homosexuality is an affliction of the soul and
mind. In truth, as a good person I feel sorry for them. We should
pray that they control their emotions and don’t commit any acts that
are forbidden in the Torah. I suppose that if I had a son or a
daughter that was a homosexual I’d love my that son or daughter and
hope he or she could make it through life without hurting or infecting
anyone and without being murdered.

What was it he said? “Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into
any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost
sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach saying The kingdom
of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the
dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.”

I don’t know about you, but I don’t know how to do all those things.
According to his apostles he is able to do those things so why did
humanity put him to death?

When I listen to the News and hear the crimes that are being committed
today it really doesn’t seem like mankind has spiritually progressed
at all.

The Temple was destroyed in 66AD. It hasn’t been rebuilt since. The
Jews living on Eretz Israel are ready for a Third Temple. If Jesus
Christ is the Messiah (and G-d knows he deserves to be) why doesn’t he
appear to mankind now that we have mass communication connecting
nations all over the earth and in outer space so he can spread the
good news of our Father that is in heaven that we Jews refer to as
HaShem?

Happy Chanukah and Merry Christmas
God Bless you all.

martin

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Dec 15, 2009, 5:18:23 AM12/15/09
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tj wrote:

> What Heterosexuals Do

> ORAL SEX Homosexuals fellate almost all of their sexual contacts (and
> ingest semen from about half of these).

Ah, there's nothing like a good blow-job. Even a bad blow-job is pretty
good too.

Hands up all those heterosexuals out there who have had a BJ or given
one. Let's see, that's about 90% on this straw poll.

> RECTAL SEX Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have engaged in
> rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly.

I'm bored now. Heterosexuals have a lot of anal sex too you know.

> FECAL SEX About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking and/or
> inserting their tongues into the anus of partners

It's not so bad really and quite pleasurable, a common practice amongst
heterosexuals also.

> URINE SEX About 10% of Kinsey's gays reported having engaged in
> "golden
> showers"

What's the percentage in the heterosexual population? I recon about the
same, it's ok a bit of a minority sport but if it floats your boat. I
quite like it myself.

> OTHER GAY SEX PRACTICES
> SADOMASOCHISM as the Table indicates, a large minority of gays engage
> in torture for sexual fun.

Covered in Joy of Sex, The Loving Dominant, Screw the Roses. Popular
amongst the chattering classes also.

> Sex with minors 25% of white gays17
> admitted
> to sex with boys 16 or younger as adults.

Bet it's a damn site higher than 25% for heterosexuals. I'd bet on 50%
at least.

So, can you please tell us all what it is homosexuals do that
heterosexuals don't do? Please.

LC

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Deaf, dumb and mute troll "tj" <timjo...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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> MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO

You're _really_ obsessed, aren't you?

> By Paul Cameron, Ph.D.

<insert madcap laugh here>

Quack, quack!

raven1

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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:45:30 -0800 (PST), tj <timjo...@hushmail.com>
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You certainly seem obsessed with homosexuals and homosexuality. Why?

Ray Fischer

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NefeshBarYohai <tac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>All male homosexuals and males that have become females that are
>transsexuals should in all honesty be put to death immediately for the

Lunatic.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

NefeshBarYohai

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On Dec 15, 7:34 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:45:30 -0800 (PST), tj <timjone...@hushmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> You certainly seem obsessed with homosexuals and homosexuality. Why?

This chic is cute and I bet she has a real tight beaver.

http://www.escortphotos.net/m.asp?id=17652&source=1

NefeshBarYohai

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On Dec 15, 8:24 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> NefeshBarYohai  <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >All male homosexuals and males that have become females that are
> >transsexuals should in all honesty be put to death immediately for the
>
> Lunatic.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer        
> rfisc...@sonic.net  

Hey Ray I'd like bust you in the mouth and let some homo put an M-80
in your ass and light it.

Ray Fischer

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NefeshBarYohai <tac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 15, 8:24�am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> NefeshBarYohai �<tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >All male homosexuals and males that have become females that are
>> >transsexuals should in all honesty be put to death immediately for the
>>
>> Lunatic.
>
>Hey Ray I'd like bust you in the mouth and let some homo put an M-80

Violence and murder seems to be your solution to everything.

You're just another lunatic asshole.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

raven1

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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:52:11 -0800 (PST), NefeshBarYohai
<tac...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>What would King David say about homosexuality? I think King David
>would not approve of homosexuality since the Torah forbids
>homosexuality.

You might want to re-read the passages about David and Jonathan before
jumping to that conclusion...

Ric Locke

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Been looking in the mirror again, I see.

Regards,
Ric

Ray Fischer

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And another murderous neo-nazi crawls out from under the rock.

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Ray Fischer
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Jimbo

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On Dec 15, 10:28 am, NefeshBarYohai <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 7:34 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:45:30 -0800 (PST), tj <timjone...@hushmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > You certainly seem obsessed with homosexuals and homosexuality. Why?
>
> This chic is cute and I bet she has a real tight beaver.
>

Something that you'll never know for sure because she's never have a
thing to do with some crippled git such as you.

Jimbo

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On Dec 15, 10:30 am, NefeshBarYohai <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 8:24 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> > NefeshBarYohai  <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >All male homosexuals and males that have become females that are
> > >transsexuals should in all honesty be put to death immediately for the
>
> > Lunatic.
>
> > --
> > Ray Fischer        
> > rfisc...@sonic.net  
>
> Hey Ray I'd like bust you in the mouth

Which makes you even more of a lunatic.

haiku jones

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On Dec 14, 10:45 pm, tj <timjone...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO
>
> By Paul Cameron, Ph.D.


Paul Cameron, eh?

Now that's just pathetic.

Haiku Jones


Ric Locke

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Hee hee. This from the guy who rejects every measure taken since
somebody stuck a seed in the ground as "unnatural", "unsustainable", and
just plain evil, and is absolutely slathering at the prospects of
billion-person mass graves so we can get back to a "sustainable
economy". I'll give the rest of the Progressives this: the mass graves
and mountains of skulls will be a surprise to them. For you they're a
main part of the /object/. And /I'm/ a "murderous neo-nazi" for wanting
to continue keeping people fed, clothed, and housed.

Regards,
Ric

juanjo

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On Dec 15, 12:52 am, NefeshBarYohai <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> All male homosexuals and males that have become females that are
> transsexuals should in all honesty be put to death immediately for the
> betterment and good of the moral fiber of all humanity.  

You are a deviant scum who twists scripture to suit your own purposes.

juanjo

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On Dec 15, 9:13 am, Ric Locke <warrick.lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 15 Dec 2009 16:11:12 GMT, Ray Fischer wrote:
>
> > NefeshBarYohai  <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>On Dec 15, 8:24 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>> NefeshBarYohai  <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >All male homosexuals and males that have become females that are
> >>> >transsexuals should in all honesty be put to death immediately for the
>
> >>> Lunatic.
>
> >>Hey Ray I'd like bust you in the mouth and let some homo put an M-80
>
> > Violence and murder seems to be your solution to everything.
>
> > You're just another lunatic asshole.
>
> Been looking in the mirror again, I see.
>

Before you defend this severely mentally ill man for his comments, you
might want to review his comments in other newsgroups.

juanjo

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On Dec 14, 9:45 pm, tj <timjone...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO
>
> By Paul Cameron, Ph.D.
>
Quoting form Cameron? How pathetic! See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cameron

The Chief Instigator

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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:30:05 -0800 (PST), NefeshBarYohai <tac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 8:24?am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>> NefeshBarYohai ?<tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >All male homosexuals and males that have become females that are
>> >transsexuals should in all honesty be put to death immediately for the
>>
>> Lunatic.
>>
>> --
>> Ray Fischer ? ? ? ?
>> rfisc...@sonic.net ?

>
> Hey Ray I'd like bust you in the mouth and let some homo put an M-80
> in your ass and light it.

Have fun freezing your wrecked ass off. The wife and I have been through
your airport (albeit the old one that was a bit closer to town and had a
decent view of the Rockies) ninteen years ago, on our way to and from my
father-in-law's funeral up in South Dakota...and if that's your attitude,
your life will be that much shorter. Get on with Darwining yourself, and at
least you'll never show up anywhere near here after our elected mayor takes
office two weeks from Friday, since we're the largest city (so far) to elect
a female gay mayor.

--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Rockford 1 (December 13)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, December 15 at Texas, 7:35

last_per...@yahoo.com

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On Dec 15, 1:24 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> tj  <timjone...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> >MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO
>
> Rabid bigotry.
>
> >By Paul Cameron
>
> >Throughout history, the major civilizations major religions condemned
> >homosexuality.
>
> And advocated war and killing.

And Fay advocates skin flute playing and kornholing.

Fay stays mum when his beloved Israeli bigots kill.

last_per...@yahoo.com

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On Dec 15, 11:45 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:52:11 -0800 (PST), NefeshBarYohai
>
> <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >What would King David say about homosexuality?  I think King David
> >would not approve of homosexuality since the Torah forbids
> >homosexuality.
>
> You might want to re-read the passages about David and Jonathan before
> jumping to that conclusion...

ZioNazis are known for promoting homosexuality, for everyone other
than
the Jews. It's one of their favorite tools for damaging host
countries.

Uncle Vic

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One fine day in alt.atheism, NefeshBarYohai <tac...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> But then you have to put yourself in the body of a male homosexual.
> For all intent and purpose, these wretched creatures have all the
> desires of a woman but have the reproductive organs of a man.

Which speaks volumes about intelligent design, doesn't it?

Uncle Vic

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Ooo, ooo! Just like glue! Bounces off me and sticks to you!

Uncle Vic

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Nah, you can't prove your manhood by posting pictures on a website that
don't include you in the flesh. You'll have to do better than that now.
The word is out, Gaylord.

The Lesbians

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Rather a shame for the haters that Paul Cameron turned out to be such a
complete fraud that the federal courts now deny him expert witness status ad
his own profession stripped him of his credentials for lying in studies.

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> Yes! YES! YEEEEEES! That is so disgusting, so sinfully gross, so decadent,
> so wrong.
>

> tj wrote:
>> MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO
>>
>>

>> By Paul Cameron, Ph.D.


>>
>>
>> Throughout history, the major civilizations major religions condemned

>> homosexuality.1 Until 1961 homosexual acts were illegal throughout
>> America.
>>
>> Gays claim that the "prevailing attitude toward homosexuals in the
>> U.S.
>> and many other countries is revulsion and hostility....for acts and
>> desires not harmful to anyone."3 The American Psychological
>> Association
>> and the American Public Health Association assured the U.S. Supreme
>> Court in 1986 that "no significant data show that engaging in...oral
>> and anal sex, results in mental or physical dysfunction."4
>>
>> What Homosexuals Do
>> The major surveys on homosexual behavior are summarized below. Two
>> things stand out 1) homosexuals behave similarly world-over, and 2) as
>> Harvard Medical Professor, Dr. William Haseltine,33 noted in 1993, the
>> "changes in sexual behavior that have been reported to have occurred
>> in
>> some groups have proved, for the most part, to be transient. For
>> example, bath houses and sex clubs in many cities have either reopened
>> or were never closed."
>>
>> Homosexual Activities (in %)
>> US16 US13 US US18 Denmark20 US19 London27 Sydney/London26
>> Canada25
>>
>> 1940s1977 83/84 1983 1984 1983 1985 1991
>>
>> ever ever ever in yr in yr in mo in mo last 6mo
>>
>> oral/penile 83 99 100/99 99 86 67
>>
>> anal/penile 68 91 93/98 95 92 95 100
>>
>> oral/anal 59 83 92/92 63 69 89 55/65
>>
>> urine sex 10 23 29/
>>
>> fisting/toys 22 41/47 34
>> fecal sex-eating 4 8
>>
>> enemas 11 11
>>
>> torture sex 22 37 37
>>
>> public/orgy sex 61 76 88
>>
>> sex with minors 37 23 24/


>>
>>
>> ORAL SEX Homosexuals fellate almost all of their sexual contacts (and

>> ingest semen from about half of these). Semen contains many of the
>> germs carried in the blood. Because of this, gays who practice oral
>> sex
>> verge on consuming raw human blood, with all its medical risks. Since
>> the penis often has tiny lesions (and often will have been in
>> unsanitary places such as a rectum), individuals so involved may
>> become
>> infected with hepatitis A or gonorrhea (and even HIV and hepatitis B).
>> Since many contacts occur between strangers (70% of gays estimated
>> that
>> they had had sex only once with over half of their partners17,27), and
>> gays average somewhere between 106 and 1105 different partners/year,
>> the potential for infection is considerable.


>>
>> RECTAL SEX Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have engaged in

>> rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly. In a 6-month
>> long study of daily sexual diaries,3 gays averaged 110 sex partners
>> and
>> 68 rectal encounters a year.
>>
>> Rectal sex is dangerous. During rectal intercourse the rectum becomes
>> a
>> mixing bowl for 1) saliva and its germs and/or an artificial
>> lubricant,
>> 2) the recipient's own feces, 3) whatever germs, infections or
>> substances the penis has on it, and 4) the seminal fluid of the
>> inserter. Since sperm readily penetrate the rectal wall (which is only
>> one cell thick) causing immunologic damage, and tearing or bruising of
>> the anal wall is very common during anal/penile sex, these substances
>> gain almost direct access to the blood stream. Unlike heterosexual
>> intercourse (in which sperm cannot penetrate the multilayered vagina
>> and no feces are present),7 rectal intercourse is probably the most
>> sexually efficient way to spread hepatitis B, HIV syphilis and a host
>> of other blood-borne diseases.
>>
>> Tearing or ripping of the anal wall is especially likely with
>> "fisting," where the hand and arm is inserted into the rectum. It is
>> also common when "toys" are employed (homosexual lingo for objects
>> which are inserted into the rectum--bottles, carrots, even gerbils8).
>> The risk of contamination and/or having to wear a colostomy bag from
>> such "sport" is very real. Fisting was apparently so rare in Kinsey's
>> time that he didn't think to talk about it. By 1977, well over a third
>> of gays admitted to doing it. The rectum was not designed to
>> accommodate the fist, and those who do so can find themselves
>> consigned
>> to diapers for life.


>>
>> FECAL SEX About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking and/or

>> inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting
>> medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it
>> are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the
>> gays
>> had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result?
>> --the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22
>> percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26
>> it was noted that the proportion of London gays engaging in oral/anal
>> sex had not declined since 1984.
>>
>> While the body has defenses against fecal germs, exposure to the fecal
>> discharge of dozens of strangers each year is extremely unhealthy.
>> Ingestion of human waste is the major route of contracting hepatitis A
>> and the enteric parasites collectively known as the Gay Bowel
>> Syndrome.
>> Consumption of feces has also been implicated in the transmission of
>> typhoid fever,9 herpes, and cancer.27 About 10% of gays have eaten or
>> played with [e.g., enemas, wallowing in feces]. The San Francisco
>> Department of Public Health saw 75,000 patients per year, of whom 70
>> to
>> 80 per cent are homosexual men....An average of 10 per cent of all
>> patients and asymptomatic contacts reported...because of positive
>> fecal
>> samples or cultures for amoeba, giardia, and shigella infections were
>> employed as food handlers in public establishments; almost 5 per cent
>> of those with hepatitis A were similarly employed."10 In 1976, a rare
>> airborne scarlet fever broke out among gays and just missed sweeping
>> through San Francisco.10 The U.S. Centers for Disease Control reported
>> that 29% of the hepatitis A cases in Denver, 66% in New York, 50% in
>> San Francisco, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal and 26% in Melbourne in
>> the first six months of 1991 were among gays.11 A 1982 study
>> "suggested
>> that some transmission from the homosexual group to the general
>> population may have occurred."12


>>
>> URINE SEX About 10% of Kinsey's gays reported having engaged in
>> "golden

>> showers" [drinking or being splashed with urine]. In the largest
>> survey
>> of gays ever conducted,13 23% admitted to urine-sex. In the largest
>> random survey of gays,6 29% reported urine-sex. In a San Francisco
>> study of 655 gays,14 only 24% claimed to have been monogamous in the
>> past year. Of these monogamous gays, 5% drank urine, 7% practiced
>> "fisting," 33% ingested feces via anal/oral contact, 53% swallowed
>> semen, and 59% received semen in their rectum during the previous
>> month.


>>
>> OTHER GAY SEX PRACTICES
>> SADOMASOCHISM as the Table indicates, a large minority of gays engage

>> in torture for sexual fun. Sex with minors 25% of white gays17
>> admitted
>> to sex with boys 16 or younger as adults. In a 9-state study,30 33% of
>> the 181 male, and 22% of the 18 female teachers caught molesting
>> students did so homosexually (though less than 3% of men and 2% of
>> women engage in homosexuality31). Depending on the study, the percent
>> of gays reporting sex in public restrooms ranged from 14%16 to 41%13
>> to
>> 66%,6 9%16, 60%13 and 67%5 reported sex in gay baths; 64%16 and 90%18
>> said that they used illegal drugs.
>>
>> Fear of AIDS may have reduced the volume of gay sex partners, but the
>> numbers are prodigious by any standard. Morin15 reported that 824 gays
>> had lowered their sex-rate from 70 different partners/yr. in 1982 to
>> 50/yr. by 1984. McKusick14 reported declines from 76/yr. to 47/yr. in
>> 1985. In Spain32 the average was 42/yr. in 1989.
>>
>> Medical Consequences of Homosexual Sex
>> Death and disease accompany promiscuous and unsanitary sexual
>> activity.
>> 70%25 to 78%x,13 of gays reported having had a sexually transmitted
>> disease. The proportion with intestinal parasites (worms, flukes,
>> amoeba) ranged from 25%18 to 39%19 to 59%.20 As of 1992, 83% of U.S.
>> AIDS in whites had occurred in gays.21 The Seattle sexual diary
>> study3?
>> reported that gays had, on a yearly average:
>>
>> fellated 108 men and swallowed semen from 48;
>> exchanged saliva with 96;
>> experienced 68 penile penetrations of the anus; and
>> ingested fecal material from 19.
>> No wonder 10% came down with hepatitis B and 7% contracted hepatitis A
>> during the 6-month study.
>>
>> Effects on the Lifespan
>> Smokers and drug addicts don't live as long as non-smokers or
>> non-addicts, so we consider smoking and narcotics abuse harmful. The
>> typical life-span of homosexuals suggests that their activities are
>> more destructive than smoking nd as dangerous as drugs.
>>
>> Obituaries numbering 6,516 from 16 U.S. homosexual journals over the
>> past 12 years were compared to a large sample of obituaries from
>> regular newspapers.23 The obituaries from the regular newspapers were
>> similar to U.S. averages for longevity; the medium age of death of
>> married men was 75, and 80% of them died old (age 65 or older). For
>> unmarried or divorced men the median age of death was 57, and 32% of
>> them died old. Married women averaged age 79 at death; 85% died old.
>> Unmarried and divorced women averaged age 71, and 60% of them died
>> old.
>>
>> The median age of death for homosexuals, however, was virtually the
>> same nationwide--and, overall, less than 2% survived to old age. If
>> AIDS was the cause of death, the median age was 39. For the 829 gays
>> who died of something other than AIDS, the median age of death was 42,
>> and 9% died old. The 163 lesbians had a median age of death of 44, and
>> 20% died old.
>>
>> Two and eight-tenths percent (2.8%) of gays died violently. They were
>> 116 times more apt to be murdered; 24 times more apt to commit
>> suicide;
>> and had a traffic-accident death-rate 18 times the rate of
>> comparably-aged white males. Heart attacks, cancer and liver failure
>> were exceptionally common. Twenty percent of lesbians died of murder,
>> suicide, or accident--a rate 487 times higher than that of white
>> females aged 25-44. The age distribution of samples of homosexuals in
>> the scientific literature from 1989 to 1992 suggests a similarly
>> shortened life-span.
>>
>> The Gay Legacy
>> Homosexuals rode into the dawn of sexual freedom and returned with a
>> plague that gives every indication of destroying most of them. Those
>> who treat AIDS patients are at great risk, not only from HIV
>> infection,
>> which as of 1992 involved over 100 health care workers,21 but also
>> from
>> TB and new strains of other diseases.24 Those who are housed with AIDS
>> patients are also at risk.24 Those who are housed with AIDS patients
>> are also at risk.24 Dr. Max Essex, chair of the Harvard AIDS
>> Institute,
>> warned congress in 1992 that "AIDS has already led to other kinds of
>> dangerous epidemics...If AIDS is not eliminated, other new lethal
>> microbes will emerge, and neither safe sex nor drug free practices
>> will
>> prevent them."28 At least 8, and perhaps as many as 30 29 patients had
>> been infected with HIV by health care workers as of 1992.
>>
>> The Biological Swapmeet
>> The typical sexual practices of homosexuals are a medical horror story
>> --imagine exchanging saliva, feces, semen and/or blood with dozens of
>> different men each year. Imagine drinking urine, ingesting feces and
>> experiencing rectal trauma on a regular basis. Often these encounters
>> occur while the participants are drunk, high, and/or in an orgy
>> setting. Further, many of them occur in extremely unsanitary places
>> (bathrooms, dirty peep shows), or, because homosexuals travel so
>> frequently, in other parts of the world.
>>
>> Every year, a quarter or more of homosexuals visit another country.20
>> Fresh American germs get taken to Europe, Africa and Asia. And fresh
>> pathogens from these continents come here. Foreign homosexuals
>> regularly visit the U.S. and participate in this biological swapmeet.
>>
>> The Pattern of Infection
>> Unfortunately the danger of these exchanges does not merely affect
>> homosexuals. Travelers carried so many tropical diseases to New York
>> City that it had to institute a tropical disease center, and gays
>> carried HIV from New York City to the rest of the world.27 Most of the
>> 6,349 Americans who got AIDS from contaminated blood as of 1992,
>> received it from homosexuals and most of the women in California who
>> got AIDS through heterosexual activity got it from men who engaged in
>> homosexual behavior.23 The rare form of airborne scarlet fever that
>> stalked San Francisco in 1976 also started among homosexuals.10
>>
>> Genuine Compassion
>> Society is legitimately concerned with health risks-- they impact our
>> taxes and everyone's chances of illness and injury. Because we care
>> about them, smokers are discouraged from smoking by higher insurance
>> premiums, taxes on cigarettes and bans against smoking in public.
>> These
>> social pressures cause many to quit. They likewise encourage
>> non-smokers to stay non-smokers.
>>
>> Homosexuals are sexually troubled people engaging in dangerous
>> activities. Because we care about them and those tempted to join them,
>> it is important that we neither encourage nor legitimize such a
>> destructive lifestyle.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
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>> 1. Karlen A. SEXUALITY And HOMOSEXUALITY. NY Norton, 1971.
>>
>> 2. Pines B. BACK TO BASICS. NY Morrow, 1982, p. 211.
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>> 1972, preface.
>>
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>
>


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Haven't defended anybody, and don't need to review "NefeshBarYohai"
elsewhere -- it and Ray were made for one another. Maybe they'd be like
the Kilkinney Cats ("...instead of two cats, there weren't any") which
would be a relief all 'round.

Regards,
Ric

Ray Fischer

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Ric Locke <warl...@hyperusa.com> wrote:
>On 15 Dec 2009 18:59:00 GMT, Ray Fischer wrote:
>
>> Ric Locke <warl...@hyperusa.com> wrote:
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> NefeshBarYohai <tac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Dec 15, 8:24�am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>> NefeshBarYohai �<tach...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >All male homosexuals and males that have become females that are
>>>>>> >transsexuals should in all honesty be put to death immediately for the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lunatic.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey Ray I'd like bust you in the mouth and let some homo put an M-80
>>>>
>>>> Violence and murder seems to be your solution to everything.
>>>>
>>>> You're just another lunatic asshole.
>>>
>>>Been looking in the mirror again, I see.
>>
>> And another murderous neo-nazi crawls out from under the rock.
>
>Hee hee. This from the guy who rejects every measure taken since

Lying about me doesn't make you less of a neo-nazi lunatic.

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Dec 16, 2009, 3:45:16 AM12/16/09
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Ray Fischer wrote:

>
> tj <timjo...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> >MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO
>
> Rabid bigotry.
>
> >By Paul Cameron
> >
> >Throughout history, the major civilizations major religions condemned
> >homosexuality.
>
> And advocated war and killing.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net

Exactly, Ray. Nice post.

There are reasons for the church to condemn homosexuality far removed
from the Bible or any religion.

Homosexuals need not get married.
If homosexuals get married, they need not live together but can life
separate and apart like across the street.
If homosexuals get married, live a cross the street, they can be and are
monogamous.
Homosexuals usually both work and have equal say everyday.
Homosexuals do not pay pastors to tell them now to live their life.
Homosexuals enjoy total freedom of education, travel, and employment
diversity.
Homosexuals have learned to great good from bad.
Homosexuals need not but can if they wish choose to spend 200,000
dollars per child per 18 years.
Homosexuals are in every corner of the planet. They are everywhere
enjoying the life that society has enabled them to lead.
The only bad thing that homosexuals experience in their lifetime is
universal hatred from the majority of people who live on the planet.
Once they learn to live with that and work about that hatred, life is
like the good life that parents tell their heterosexual offspring they
will have but unfortunately for most heterosexuals, life can be hell as
the woman quits working to have babies, the guy has to get overtime to
help make up for the wive's loss of income.

With Tiger Wood's billion dollars, you would think life would be
awesome.

anonymous

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Dec 16, 2009, 4:11:53 AM12/16/09
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Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:
>
> Yes! YES! YEEEEEES! That is so disgusting, so sinfully gross, so decadent,
> so wrong.
>
> tj wrote:
> > MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO
> >
> >
> > By Paul Cameron, Ph.D.

> >
> >
> > Throughout history, the major civilizations major religions condemned
> > homosexuality.1 Until 1961 homosexual acts were illegal throughout
> > America.
> >
> > Gays claim that the "prevailing attitude toward homosexuals in the
> > U.S.
> > and many other countries is revulsion and hostility....for acts and
> > desires not harmful to anyone."3 The American Psychological
> > Association
> > and the American Public Health Association assured the U.S. Supreme
> > Court in 1986 that "no significant data show that engaging in...oral
> > and anal sex, results in mental or physical dysfunction."4
> >
Do you think anyone in the world would care if a billionare homoseual
was married and had 12 or 13 guys he was having sex with outside of his
homosexual marriage? Not likely would anyone care.

Every porn movie currently available on the internet found with the
following google search "free porn vidoes" or "free fuck videos" will
give you hundreds to thousands of different men and women engagin in
oral and anal and vaginal sex with the man squirting his love juice on
the woman's face and in her eyes and mouth. Where are these wives, and
porn stars lived up at hospital and psychiatric wards asking for help.
It sounds like Tiger had a few wild times. Do you think he and his
babes are getting counseling
and medical treatment for their mental and physical dysfunction?

Get real.


> > What Homosexuals Do
> > The major surveys on homosexual behavior are summarized below. Two
> > things stand out 1) homosexuals behave similarly world-over, and 2) as
> > Harvard Medical Professor, Dr. William Haseltine,33 noted in 1993, the
> > "changes in sexual behavior that have been reported to have occurred
> > in
> > some groups have proved, for the most part, to be transient. For
> > example, bath houses and sex clubs in many cities have either reopened
> > or were never closed."

Lets get one thing clear. Bathhouses and sex clubs kept men off the
street and away from the rest stations. There is and was water to
shower in and keep clean inside and outside the body as well as good
lighting, safe environment and lots of condoms.
Do gay men need to go to bathhouses? Absolutely not. They can get sex
just about anyhwere anytime. So who must go to bath houses or sex
clubs. Married men. Let me say it again. Married men. Like
chartered accountants that live in small town 2 or 3 hundred miles from
a city. When they fly to the city, they travel to bathhouses for a sex
gay sex while their wife and daughters sit and home and wait for his
safe return from his business trip.


> >
> > ORAL SEX Homosexuals fellate almost all of their sexual contacts (and
> > ingest semen from about half of these). Semen contains many of the
> > germs carried in the blood. Because of this, gays who practice oral
> > sex
> > verge on consuming raw human blood, with all its medical risks. Since
> > the penis often has tiny lesions (and often will have been in
> > unsanitary places such as a rectum), individuals so involved may
> > become
> > infected with hepatitis A or gonorrhea (and even HIV and hepatitis B).
> > Since many contacts occur between strangers (70% of gays estimated
> > that
> > they had had sex only once with over half of their partners17,27), and
> > gays average somewhere between 106 and 1105 different partners/year,
> > the potential for infection is considerable.

You meant to include married men who ingest sperm are at risk of getting
sexually
transmitted diseases, too, right?

> >
> > RECTAL SEX Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have engaged in
> > rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly. In a 6-month
> > long study of daily sexual diaries,3 gays averaged 110 sex partners
> > and
> > 68 rectal encounters a year.
> >

The number of partners anyone has is not related to catching STDs as
Tiger Woods will tell you. It is who you fuck and what condom
precautions you take with your partners.


> > Rectal sex is dangerous. During rectal intercourse the rectum becomes
> > a
> > mixing bowl for 1) saliva and its germs and/or an artificial
> > lubricant,
> > 2) the recipient's own feces, 3) whatever germs, infections or
> > substances the penis has on it, and 4) the seminal fluid of the
> > inserter. Since sperm readily penetrate the rectal wall (which is only
> > one cell thick) causing immunologic damage, and tearing or bruising of
> > the anal wall is very common during anal/penile sex, these substances
> > gain almost direct access to the blood stream. Unlike heterosexual
> > intercourse (in which sperm cannot penetrate the multilayered vagina
> > and no feces are present),7 rectal intercourse is probably the most
> > sexually efficient way to spread hepatitis B, HIV syphilis and a host
> > of other blood-borne diseases.

Yes, anal fucking is risky. But if young guys from the office can't get
married, can't get the support of the church, can't risk being seenn, it
is difficult to have an awesome sex life, but homosexuals manage quite
well in spite of the world against them that hates them.


> >
> > Tearing or ripping of the anal wall is especially likely with
> > "fisting," where the hand and arm is inserted into the rectum. It is
> > also common when "toys" are employed (homosexual lingo for objects
> > which are inserted into the rectum--bottles, carrots, even gerbils8).
> > The risk of contamination and/or having to wear a colostomy bag from
> > such "sport" is very real. Fisting was apparently so rare in Kinsey's
> > time that he didn't think to talk about it. By 1977, well over a third
> > of gays admitted to doing it. The rectum was not designed to
> > accommodate the fist, and those who do so can find themselves
> > consigned
> > to diapers for life.

Actually, fisting is one of the safest sex practices if done carefully.
And no
homosexuals into fisting do not have to wear diapers for the rest of
their lives.
anymore than women do who take it up the ass.

> >
> > FECAL SEX About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking and/or
> > inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting
> > medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it
> > are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the
> > gays
> > had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result?
> > --the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22
> > percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26
> > it was noted that the proportion of London gays engaging in oral/anal
> > sex had not declined since 1984.

Riming is risk sex, very risky, but not for homsexuals who only practice
safe sex and
use a barrier or homosexuals who are married or monogimous.

Yes, that is possible, but just ask straight guy who turns over his
paycheck each month to his wife and she says no to sex for the next 30
days so he drinks like a fish.

> >
> > Obituaries numbering 6,516 from 16 U.S. homosexual journals over the
> > past 12 years were compared to a large sample of obituaries from
> > regular newspapers.23 The obituaries from the regular newspapers were
> > similar to U.S. averages for longevity; the medium age of death of
> > married men was 75, and 80% of them died old (age 65 or older). For
> > unmarried or divorced men the median age of death was 57, and 32% of
> > them died old. Married women averaged age 79 at death; 85% died old.
> > Unmarried and divorced women averaged age 71, and 60% of them died
> > old.

There are lots of old heterosexual men who couldn't get their wife to
give them a blowjob.


> >
> > The median age of death for homosexuals, however, was virtually the
> > same nationwide--and, overall, less than 2% survived to old age. If
> > AIDS was the cause of death, the median age was 39. For the 829 gays
> > who died of something other than AIDS, the median age of death was 42,
> > and 9% died old. The 163 lesbians had a median age of death of 44, and
> > 20% died old.

Why would anyone care if homosexuals die at 29 or 34. You know they
have at least had
an awesome life of travel, drinking sex, smoking and life the best life
that any human can on the planet.


> >
> > Two and eight-tenths percent (2.8%) of gays died violently. They were
> > 116 times more apt to be murdered; 24 times more apt to commit
> > suicide;
> > and had a traffic-accident death-rate 18 times the rate of
> > comparably-aged white males. Heart attacks, cancer and liver failure
> > were exceptionally common. Twenty percent of lesbians died of murder,
> > suicide, or accident--a rate 487 times higher than that of white
> > females aged 25-44. The age distribution of samples of homosexuals in
> > the scientific literature from 1989 to 1992 suggests a similarly
> > shortened life-span.

Remember, that regardless of how quickly and how young homosexuals die,
there are billions of heteroseual couple producing homosexuals every
minute of the day and night.
The world will never run out of homosexuals thanks to heterosexuals.

Yes, homosexuals travel the world. And you think all those heterosexual
men who can't get a blowjob from their wife sitting in his hotel room
reading the Bible? Think again.

Aids is a global concern. That people call it homosexual disease and
not worthy of funding is doing so at the risk of civilization.

You can never stop homosexuality. Homosexuals are made by
heterosexuals. We even know how they do it.

Jimbo

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Dec 16, 2009, 8:31:27 AM12/16/09
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On Dec 16, 3:45 am, anonymous <anonym...@anonymous.com> wrote:
> Ray Fischer wrote:

>
> > tj  <timjone...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > >MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO
>
> > Rabid bigotry.
>
> > >By Paul Cameron
>
> > >Throughout history, the major civilizations major religions condemned
> > >homosexuality.
>
> > And advocated war and killing.
>
> > --
> > Ray Fischer
> > rfisc...@sonic.net

>
> Exactly, Ray.  Nice post.
>
> There are reasons for the church to condemn homosexuality

Luckily we don't live in a Theocratic State, so we don't have to care,
or listen to, what any church has to say on any matter.

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Dec 17, 2009, 4:52:52 AM12/17/09
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And verily, didst Brice Campbell <bricec...@cox.net> hastily babble thusly:
> On 15 Dec 2009, Uncle Vic <add...@withheld.com> posted some
> news:Xns9CE2BE08...@216.196.97.131:
>
>> One fine day in alt.atheism, NefeshBarYohai <tac...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> But then you have to put yourself in the body of a male homosexual.
>>> For all intent and purpose, these wretched creatures have all the
>>> desires of a woman but have the reproductive organs of a man.
>>
>> Which speaks volumes about intelligent design, doesn't it?
>
> Design has nothing to do with it. The first sexual experience typically
> brands the person. If a male is molested by a homosexual, they tend to
> be homosexuals.
>
> That is why queers are so adamant about removing criminal prosecution
> for child molestation. They want to be able to recruit freely with no
> thought of criminal prosecution.

That's absolute bollocks and you know it. Name one RELIABLE source for such
statistics.
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> On 15 Dec 2009, Uncle Vic <add...@withheld.com> posted some
> news:Xns9CE2BE08...@216.196.97.131:
>
>> One fine day in alt.atheism, NefeshBarYohai <tac...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> But then you have to put yourself in the body of a male homosexual.
>>> For all intent and purpose, these wretched creatures have all the
>>> desires of a woman but have the reproductive organs of a man.
>>
>> Which speaks volumes about intelligent design, doesn't it?
>
> Design has nothing to do with it. The first sexual experience
> typically brands the person. If a male is molested by a homosexual,
> they tend to be homosexuals.

What a fucking load! Cite please!

>
> That is why queers are so adamant about removing criminal prosecution
> for child molestation. They want to be able to recruit freely with no
> thought of criminal prosecution.
>

> Queers are made, not born.
>
>

How's the weather over there in Texas?

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