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Arindam Banerjee

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Oct 18, 2011, 6:46:07 AM10/18/11
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On Oct 18, 4:58 pm, DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 17, 10:50 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
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> > On Oct 17, 8:28 pm, DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Oct 17, 10:04 am, Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > On Oct 17, 3:59 pm, DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Oct 16, 11:31 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:20 pm, Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Explain the physics/mechanics of 'walking' on a perfectly 'smooth'
> > > > > > > surface in the complete absence of  gravity. I saw a video of one of
> > > > > > > the astronauts trying to 'spacewalk' but he did not seem to have
> > > > > > > gotten  the "hang" of it.
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> > > > > > I need not explain anything to you. You do not deserve further
> > > > > > attention from me.
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> > > > > Is iy because once you declared that Zinic agrees with your claims but
> > > > > he did not in fact
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> > > > What use should anyone have for dishonest people - and mean people?
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> > > I have never read Zinnic getting cheap with you the way you have
> > > become to him.
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> > So who cares for silly opinion from fools?
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> It was only Zinnic among scores of Usenet correspondents you could
> count for getting yourself Nobel Prize.

No.

> And for you it is only Usenet that is worth publishing your
> revolutionary research in Physics.

For the moment, yes. It is the most open forum, available to all,
with no restrictions upon anyone to post - so the freest and most
sincere of opinions can be published. On the other hand, there are
heavy penalties for publishing here under your own name and identity,
as I do. You are automatically kicked out of all possible employment,
as I have found out - there exist agencies which monitor each and
every word anyone has ever written, and this profile is given to every
prospective employer. They all ask for such profiles these days, and
if they find any published profile, any controversy, there is no job
for the fellow. Free speech thus is a huge luxury in the western
world these days, you gotta pay a very heavy price for it. Still,
there are some advantages for doing so. Publishing here, and holding
your ground here, is far far more honest and correct than publishing
in some journal only a few read. I am making my ideas open to the
world, and if that bothers anyone, what can anyone do about it? This
Usenet is a place for creativity, for sharing ideas, from learning
matters - and also this is a place where when writes under one's own
name, with an open identity, the subject matter is naturally
copyrighted. So, it makes a lot of sense for me to write my new ideas
here. Anyone can read them, they will be archived, for all time to
come. No one can tamper them - so this is all good, good, good.

Of course, I will be happy to go and speak in any worthy institution
where I am called, and publish in any paper if I am invited to do so.
I am certainly not going to demean myself by knocking at doors and
getting jeers in return. Been there, done that!
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> On s.c.i you could be writing to counter your jBm encounter a decade
> back, but to who are you addressing on sics, sci.phys alt.philosophy,
> sci.phyics.electromag and similar Groups? Fools?

I am surprised by the low quality of intellect of some posters, who
instead of making scientific comments resort to personal attacks. I
have read in one post, by a person calling himself NonEinstein, that
5% physicists only are honest, the rest are all einsteinian frauds by
implication. So there is hope, if as many as 5% are decent honest
objective people. Just so happens, these days they have no money or
influence, as the frauds have gobbled it all for their fraudulent
projects. Also, the 5% is naturally intimidated, they too want to
retain their jobs.

I don't know when, but sooner or later some scientist somewhere will
get some guts or money, some politician will be motivated, and so I
will get some funding to prove my work. Unless I make noise from time
to time (as I am doing now) nobody will ever care.

Cheers,
Arindam (bin Einstein) Banerjee

DMJoshi

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Oct 18, 2011, 8:30:00 AM10/18/11
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Of course I do not go to any of alt.philosophy, sci.physics,
sci.physics.electromag, rec.arts.prose
But here I have tried to read your interaction with others,
particularly with Zinnic.
In my opinion you have been rude to him, not other way around.

Arindam Banerjee

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Oct 18, 2011, 5:54:54 PM10/18/11
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I give people the treatment they deserve.
Making mountains out of molehills, ignoring the real issues, is the
way of all the scoundrels.
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> >  I
> > have read in one post, by a person calling himself NonEinstein, that
> > 5% physicists only are honest, the rest are all einsteinian frauds by
> > implication.  So there is hope, if as many as 5% are decent honest
> > objective people. Just so happens, these days they have no money or
> > influence, as the frauds have gobbled it all for their fraudulent
> > projects. Also, the 5% is naturally intimidated, they too want to
> > retain their jobs.
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> > I don't know when, but sooner or later some scientist somewhere will
> > get some guts or money, some politician will be motivated, and so I
> > will get some funding to prove my work.  Unless I make noise from time
> > to time (as I am doing now) nobody will ever care.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam (bin Einstein) Banerjee- Hide quoted text -
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DMJoshi

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Oct 19, 2011, 1:15:58 AM10/19/11
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On Oct 18, 10:54 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> On Oct 18, 11:30 pm, DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I am surprised by the low quality of intellect of some posters, who
> > > instead of making scientific comments resort to personal attacks.
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> > Of course I do not go to any of alt.philosophy, sci.physics,
> > sci.physics.electromag, rec.arts.prose
> > But here I have tried to read your interaction with others,
> > particularly with Zinnic.
> > In my opinion you have been rude to him, not other way around.
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> I give people the treatment they deserve.
> Making mountains out of molehills, ignoring the real issues, is the
> way of all the scoundrels.

Looks you never gave a thought to why you are getting from others what
you are getting.

Arindam Banerjee

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Oct 19, 2011, 2:26:05 AM10/19/11
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I know that well enough, so far as the negative responses are
concerned. These are bad times for science and good folk -
einsteinian frauds rule, and their thugs intimidate, by making
unscientific personal attacks and other kinds of bullying and
negation. Other people are ignorant, cowardly, mean or plain
indifferent. Some are very cunning - they will give you some hope,
some rope, to drag out infomation and then stab you in the back! I
have the most disgust for these types.

On the other hand, genuine scientists (ie 5% of all who make claim of
being so) are on my side, as I am on theirs. It is a matter of time
before the ruling crooks will be kicked out of power, as lies no
matter how well supported have a limited shelf-life, and then I will
get what I deserve - that is, at the very least, a fair hearing from a
reasonable scientific audience in a worthy institution. There is a
good chance I might get that, in my own lifetime. And if not, I will
go down knowing I have fought the good fight, done what I should have
done.

Bye,
Arindam Banerjee

Szczepan Bialek

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Oct 19, 2011, 3:09:54 AM10/19/11
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"Arindam Banerjee" <adda...@bigpond.com> napisal w wiadomosci
news:cfa709dc-2a26-4c55...@h23g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
You and they are from " the top defence industry".
But they from the tip top do not write here.

> It is a matter of time
before the ruling crooks will be kicked out of power, as lies no
matter how well supported have a limited shelf-life, and then I will
get what I deserve - that is, at the very least, a fair hearing from a
reasonable scientific audience in a worthy institution.

Top secret knowledge is and always will be the top secret.

> There is a
good chance I might get that, in my own lifetime. And if not, I will
go down knowing I have fought the good fight, done what I should have
done.

You are too serious.
We here can only try to guess what that 5% do.
S*



Arindam Banerjee

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Oct 19, 2011, 7:51:02 AM10/19/11
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On Oct 19, 6:09 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" <sz.bia...@wp.pl> wrote:
>  "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> napisal w wiadomoscinews:cfa709dc-2a26-4c55...@h23g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
I used to be, in India. In the period 1978-89 I worked on radar and
communication antennas.
All I can say is that the terms relativity and quantum never figured
in any document I read or handled.

> But they from the tip top do not write here.
>
> > It is a matter of time
>
> before the ruling crooks will be kicked out of power, as lies no
> matter how well supported have a limited shelf-life, and then I will
> get what I deserve - that is, at the very least, a fair hearing from a
> reasonable scientific audience in a worthy institution.
>
> Top secret knowledge is and always will be the top secret.

Top secret is something which everyone wants to know. Thus putting up
rubbish as top secret is good at misguiding the concerned parties.

> > There is a
>
> good chance I might get that, in my own lifetime. And if not, I will
> go down knowing I have fought the good fight, done what I should have
> done.
>
> You are too serious.

Thanks.

> We here can only try to guess what that 5% do.

I would like them to unite...




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Szczepan Bialek

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Oct 19, 2011, 8:06:22 AM10/19/11
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Uzytkownik "Arindam Banerjee" <adda...@bigpond.com> napisal w wiadomosci
news:af7a3cc2-ae57-48eb...@u10g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
They were, but only in the first half of XIX century.
In that time the all todays secrets were resolved and published.

Ampere, Cauchy, Stokes and Tesla are available on line.
There no " relativity and quantum".
S*


Zinnic

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Oct 19, 2011, 10:28:03 AM10/19/11
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Whereas you make an internal force engine out of kinetic energy (0.5 m
VV) with a magic spell designated as (N^2-Nk), whilst ignoring the
real issue as to what that term represents in real physics.

Until you rationally explain N and k, your formula e = 0.5 m VV(N^2-
Nk) remains just another example of the general crackpot claim
that--- perpetual motion equals the energy of motion multiplied by
"Open Sesame'!
Zinnic


Arindam Banerjee

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Oct 19, 2011, 6:31:52 PM10/19/11
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On Oct 19, 11:06 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" <sz.bia...@wp.pl> wrote:
> Uzytkownik "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> napisal w wiadomoscinews:af7a3cc2-ae57-48eb...@u10g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
unfortunately we can only talk to their spirits, if they will be so
kind to manifest, on the ouija board...

A great pity, that none among them stumbled upon the simple relation
between mass and energy, which is as basic as f=ma, s=ut+0.5att, vv=uu
+2as,v=u+at,stress is proportional to strain, etc., that I found,
namely e=0.5mVVN(N-k) that explains all energy formations from matter
interactions.

An enormous amount of evil would have been averted, had that been the
case. We could easily have established human colonies all over the
solar system, and the Earth a much better, greener, place.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

> There no " relativity and quantum".
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