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Aratzio

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Nov 12, 2011, 5:05:45 PM11/12/11
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In case there was any doubt whether Novins hosed the Pretrial Memo

<...>

:Case 3:09-cv-05354-AET -DEA Document 91 Filed 05/31/11 Page 4 of 10
:
:22 THE COURT: I’m entering the order which was
:23 submitted under Mr. Manzo’s letter to me of May 26th, 2011 as
:24 defendant’s final pretrial order. You’ll appear before Judge
:25 Thompson on Wednesday morning to start trial. I’m going to
:
:1 provide her with a copy of this order.
:2 Mr. Manzo, you and Mr. Duncan can make whatever
:3 application you believe is appropriate before Judge Thompson
:4 based on Mr. Novins’ either failure to or lack of participation
:5 in the process. And Judge Thompson will decide what remedy is
:6 appropriate as she begins trial.

Here is the fun part:
:7 But as I see it right now, the order contains no
:8 exhibits for Mr. Novins, contains no stipulated facts as to Mr.
:9 Novins, and no other articulated legal positions as to Mr.
:10 Novins, or at least from his perspective.
EEEEEK, hosed himself, didn't he?

:11 So, Mr. Novins, we’ll see you on Wednesday morning.
:12 Gentlemen, I’ll see you on Wednesday morning, and you should be
:13 prepared to step off with Judge Thompson.
:14 MR. NOVINS: Your Honor, I will do that but --
:15 MR. DUNCAN: Thank you, Your Honor.
:16 MR. NOVINS: -- I would request your permission to at
:17 least forward to you the memo I presented and sent to them,
:18 which was as far as I was concerned.
:19 THE COURT: You can forward whatever you’d like, Mr.
:20 Novins.
:21 MR. NOVINS: Okay.
:22 THE COURT: But this is going to go on the docket as
:23 defendants’ final pretrial order. And if you have another
:24 version of it that you believe was not submitted to the Court,
:25 I’ll leave it to you to decide how you’re going to handle it.
:
And a nice cup of STFU at the end for NoWins.
:1 But Mr. Duncan’s point is well taken. We’ve spent enough time
:2 dancing around one another on the fundamentals here, and this
:3 case is going to trial on Wednesday.

Pretty clearly states NoWins gets nothing.

Just pull up Pacer and you too can have a copy of the hilarious
transcript of NoWins stammering his way through his *explanations* why
he is completely unprepared for his own case.

Document number at the top.

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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"Aratzio" <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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It's difficult to be prepared when he's already been denied due process.
He's entangled in what amounts to a kangaroo court at this point. It
appears to me he's simply assembling some very good evidence for a
successful appeal at a future date.

--
Gregory Hall


Peter J Ross

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Nov 12, 2011, 5:34:00 PM11/12/11
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In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:05:45 -0800, Aratzio
<a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

> In case there was any doubt whether Novins hosed the Pretrial Memo

<...>

There was never any doubt, but kooks can't stop themselves lying even
to themselves.

I notice that you crossposted your post to alt.aratzio, which is fair
enough, since you're a famous Usenet poster.

But why is there no newsgroup like this:

For your newsgroups file:
alt.fan.charles-novins Atlas Bugged, attorney, kook, loony, nutter, bankrupt.

(Notice the searchable keywords in the description.)

He's at least as famous as you, and after he loses the funniest
kooksuit in history he'll be more famous still, so we ought to give
him the eternal fame he desires.

(If in doubt, ask Adam the Bowtie Boy. He likes alt.fan.* proposals.)

--
PJR :-)

the messenjah

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Nov 12, 2011, 5:48:31 PM11/12/11
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On Nov 12, 5:34 pm, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:05:45 -0800, Aratzio
>
Ross. You're a fuckhead.
>
> --
> PJR :-)

Peter J Ross

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Nov 12, 2011, 5:56:02 PM11/12/11
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In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:48:31 -0800 (PST), the
That'll be something else to ask Adam the Bowtie Boy about.



--
PJR :-)

Aratzio

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On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:34:00 +0000 (UTC), in the land of
alt.usenet.kooks, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> got double secret
probation for writing:
This server will only post to groups in its list and I am fucked if I
am going to try to get a group added.

Peter J Ross

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Nov 12, 2011, 6:05:59 PM11/12/11
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In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:58:53 -0800, Aratzio
Pathetic! You're the laziest Evul Destroyer of All Usenet that I've
ever met.

--
PJR :-)

Aratzio

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Nov 12, 2011, 6:08:50 PM11/12/11
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:41:13 -0800 (PST), in the land of
alt.usenet.kooks, cain...@windstream.net got double secret probation
for writing:

>On Nov 12, 5:31 pm, Emmett BADASS Gulley <emmettgulle...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> No it does not.
>>
>> When i asked novins about the trial, he stated he as ready as ever.
>>
>> Novins clearly has not conceded defeat yet so you staukers better stop
>> posting this shit because I am forwarding it to him.
>>
>> y
>>
>>
>>
>> > Just pull up Pacer and you too can have a copy of the hilarious
>> > transcript of NoWins stammering his way through his *explanations* why
>> > he is completely unprepared for his own case.
>>
>> This document was at the BEGINNING of the proceedings. he clearly
>> recovered in later hearings.
>>
>>
>
>Once again the Gulley Goof proves he can not read.

There would be another document on Pacer that shows that Novins is
allowed to amend the pre-trial memo.
<searches>
Hrmm, nothing like that is available on Pacer. Must be some sealed
document that the moron is referencing. Well, that would be bad for
both the moron and NoWins if the document were stilled sealed. Judges
don't like their rulings discussed with outside parties until they
have been released.

Maybe the moron can explain how he knows something that is not part of
the public record? Maybe in his many personal discussions with NoWins,
NoWins let escape some non-public ruling by either the Judge or her
magistrate?

But come Tuesday when the trial starts we should know about 3 days
later. When Mr. Manzo and Mr. Duncan have finished hammering the nails
into the coffin of NoWins career NoWins will be allowed his
opportunity to present his case. Which as those that are not morons
know will consist of "Nuh Uh" since he has:
a) no defense
b) no evidence
c) no witnesses

I still think the law firm should sue their lawyer for fraud.

Aratzio

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Nov 12, 2011, 6:12:15 PM11/12/11
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:21:11 -0500, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks, "
Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greg...@home.fake> got double secret
probation for writing:

>It's difficult to be prepared when he's already been denied due process.
>He's entangled in what amounts to a kangaroo court at this point. It
>appears to me he's simply assembling some very good evidence for a
>successful appeal at a future date.

Yeah, fucking yourself at every turn, pissing off the magistrate,
pissing off the judge and failing to file the proper documents as
ordered by the courts is a great basis for appeal.

"Your homor, my lawyer was a complete fuck up"
"But you were the lawyer"
"Yes, that is how I know how fucked up a lawyer he is"
"Bailiff, whack his pee-pee"

Aratzio

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On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:05:59 +0000 (UTC), in the land of alt.aratzio,
It is my fault, they don't like me cross posting.

Peter J Ross

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Nov 12, 2011, 6:47:00 PM11/12/11
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In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:13:08 -0800, Aratzio
If thou crosspostest into config groups, the saintly Chief Bamby shall
forsooth frown upon thee and all thy works!

(And even Ray Banana is asking me to sneck one newsgroup... I need to
switch back to shared-secrets again.)

--
PJR :-)

pandora

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Nov 12, 2011, 8:13:15 PM11/12/11
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I concur.

Emmett BADASS Gulley

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On Nov 12, 6:47 pm, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:13:08 -0800, Aratzio
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:05:59 +0000 (UTC), in the land of alt.aratzio,
> > Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> got double secret probation for
> > writing:
>
> >>In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:58:53 -0800, Aratzio
> >><a6ahly...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:34:00 +0000 (UTC), in the land of
> >>> alt.usenet.kooks, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> got double secret
> >>> probation for writing:
>
> >>>>In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:05:45 -0800, Aratzio
> >>>><a6ahly...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> In case there was any doubt whether Novins hosed the Pretrial Memo
>
> >>>><...>
>
> >>>>There was never any doubt, but kooks can't stop themselves lying even
> >>>>to themselves.
>
> >>>>I notice that you crossposted your post to alt.aratzio, which is fair
> >>>>enough, since you're a famous Usenet poster.
>
> >>>>But why is there no newsgroup like this:
>
> >>>>For your newsgroups file:
> >>>>alt.fan.charles-novins  Atlas Bugged, attorney, kook, loony, nutter, bankrupt.
>
> >>>>(Notice the searchable keywords in the description.)
>
> >>>>He's at least as famous as you, and after he loses the funniest
> >>>>kooksuit in history he'll be more famous still, so we ought to give
> >>>>him the eternal fame he desires.
>
> >>>>(If in doubt, ask Adam the Bowtie Boy. He likes alt.fan.* proposals.)
>
> >>> This server will only post to groups in its list and I am fucked if I
> >>> am going to try to get a group added.
>
> >>Pathetic! You're the laziest Evul Destroyer of All Usenet that I've
> >>ever met.
>
> > It is my fault, they don't like me cross posting.
>
> If thou crosspostest into config groups, the saintly Chief Bamby shall
> forsooth frown upon thee and all thy works!
>
> (And even Ray Banana is asking me to sneck one newsgroup... I need to
> switch back to shared-secrets again.)

Ray Banana isn't even adding groups anymore. You people need to read
more of the other groups.

ZAX isn't even adding groups either to mixmin.
>
> --
> PJR :-)

Peter J Ross

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Nov 12, 2011, 8:20:16 PM11/12/11
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In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:07:58 -0800 (PST), Emmett
BADASS Gulley <emmettg...@gmail.com> wrote:

<...>

> Ray Banana isn't even adding groups anymore. You people need to read
> more of the other groups.
>
> ZAX isn't even adding groups either to mixmin.

"User-Agent: G2/1.0"

*snigger*

You try to talk the talk, convict, but can you walk the walk? Can you
stay out of prison, the way that most of your interlocutors can?


--
PJR :-)

pandora

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Nov 12, 2011, 8:25:42 PM11/12/11
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Oooooh, nooooo. That's so very scary!

> (And even Ray Banana is asking me to sneck one newsgroup... I need to
> switch back to shared-secrets again.)

Harumph! My ISP isn't so picky, thankfully.
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cain...@windstream.net

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On Nov 12, 5:48 pm, the messenjah <theguyontheb...@veryfast.biz>
wrote:

> > He's
> a fuckhead.


I

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Nov 13, 2011, 6:32:30 AM11/13/11
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He's had 2 years. If he can't get it done in that time frame, it's his
fault.

> He's entangled in what amounts to a kangaroo court at this point. It
> appears to me

Because you're stupid.

> he's simply assembling some very good evidence for a
> successful appeal at a future date.

Greg Hall, the Criswell of AUK.

--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
Mad As A Box Of Frogs
Vince
Art Deco
Mike Manners aka Bitty Bill
Johnny Dollar
Kevin Cannon
yourfriend
Fred Hall
idlehands

Steve Crook

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Nov 13, 2011, 7:39:14 AM11/13/11
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:21:11 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote in
Message-Id: <55jh1p....@news.alt.net>:

> It's difficult to be prepared when he's already been denied due process.
> He's entangled in what amounts to a kangaroo court at this point. It
> appears to me he's simply assembling some very good evidence for a
> successful appeal at a future date.

What possible evidence could he gather? He tried to attribute an
anonymous posting on nothing but circumstantial evidence. Heck, you
write dozens of anonymous postings but you'd laugh your face off if
anyone attributed them to you.

Steve Crook

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On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:07:58 -0800 (PST), Emmett BADASS Gulley wrote in
Message-Id: <80973655-2416-4d1b...@o13g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>:

> Ray Banana isn't even adding groups anymore. You people need to read
> more of the other groups.
>
> ZAX isn't even adding groups either to mixmin.

What groups are missing? So far as I'm aware, I've honoured all
correctly issued newgroup requests.

Adam H. Kerman

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Nov 13, 2011, 8:24:08 AM11/13/11
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Steve Crook <st...@mixmin.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:07:58 -0800 (PST), Emmett BADASS Gulley wrote:

>>Ray Banana isn't even adding groups anymore. You people need to read
>>more of the other groups.

>>ZAX isn't even adding groups either to mixmin.

>What groups are missing? So far as I'm aware, I've honoured all
>correctly issued newgroup requests.

ZAX?

Steve Crook

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["Followup-To:" header set to alt.config.]
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:24:08 +0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote in
Message-Id: <j9ogdo$fl2$1...@dont-email.me>:

>>>ZAX isn't even adding groups either to mixmin.
>
>>What groups are missing? So far as I'm aware, I've honoured all
>>correctly issued newgroup requests.
>
> ZAX?

It's my nickname in a couple of newsgroups and IRC channels.

Emmett AUK OWNER Gulley

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On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:12:15 -0800, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
why don't you shut the fuck up you piece of shit!!

pandora

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Nov 13, 2011, 5:51:35 PM11/13/11
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Why don't you?
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Aratzio

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On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:02:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, Emmett
AUK OWNER Gulley <Emmettg...@gmail.com> got double secret
probation for writing:

>On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:12:15 -0800, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:21:11 -0500, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks, "
>>Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greg...@home.fake> got double secret
>>probation for writing:
>>
>>>It's difficult to be prepared when he's already been denied due process.
>>>He's entangled in what amounts to a kangaroo court at this point. It
>>>appears to me he's simply assembling some very good evidence for a
>>>successful appeal at a future date.
>>
>>Yeah, fucking yourself at every turn, pissing off the magistrate,
>>pissing off the judge and failing to file the proper documents as
>>ordered by the courts is a great basis for appeal.
>>
>>"Your homor, my lawyer was a complete fuck up"
>>"But you were the lawyer"
>>"Yes, that is how I know how fucked up a lawyer he is"
>>"Bailiff, whack his pee-pee"
>
>why don't you shut the fuck up you piece of shit!!

Please identify the manner in which you propose to enforce your
mewling demand?

ah

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Aratzio

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On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:02:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah
<splif...@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
Gully is such an artst with the flame.

the messenjah

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On Nov 16, 9:08 pm, Aratzio <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:02:51 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah
> <splifing...@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 11/13/2011 5:02 PM, Emmett AUK OWNER Gulley wrote:
> >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:12:15 -0800, Aratzio <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:21:11 -0500, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks, "
> >>>Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <gregh...@home.fake> got double secret
> >>>probation for writing:
>
> >>>>It's difficult to be prepared when he's already been denied due process.
> >>>>He's entangled in what amounts to a kangaroo court at this point.  It
> >>>>appears to me he's simply assembling some very good evidence for a
> >>>>successful appeal at a future date.
>
> >>>Yeah, fucking yourself at every turn, pissing off the magistrate,
> >>>pissing off the judge and failing to file the proper documents as
> >>>ordered by the courts is a great basis for appeal.
>
> >>>"Your homor, my lawyer was a complete fuck up"
> >>>"But you were the lawyer"
> >>>"Yes, that is how I know how fucked up a lawyer he is"
> >>>"Bailiff, whack his pee-pee"
>
> >> why don't you shut the fuck up you piece of shit!!
>
> >Oooh, Bitch!
>
> Gully is such an artst with the flame.

So what is the final disposition of this case? I see that Cannon is
posting his bullshit from a TSB Bearings computer again. What a
dumbass!

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Aratzio

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On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:28:03 -0800 (PST), in the land of
alt.usenet.kooks, the messenjah <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> got
You know, Chuckwit, that should be a HIGE fucking clue. It would be
for those whose IQs are above room tempurature. That it isn't for you
well...

the messenjah

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On Nov 16, 9:51 pm, Aratzio <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:28:03 -0800 (PST), in the land of
> alt.usenet.kooks, the messenjah <theguyontheb...@veryfast.biz> got
You didn't answer my question.

I

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Nov 17, 2011, 4:23:50 PM11/17/11
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Still ongoing. However, it sounds like it will not be much longer
before news is available.

Aratzio

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On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:36:07 -0800 (PST), in the land of
alt.usenet.kooks, the messenjah <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> got
No, you moron, I didn't, because it was a moronic question.

Are you really so fucking stupid that you are incapable of figuring it
out?

1. There is NO case against KAC it was dismissed months ago.
2. He has testified.
3. You are an idiot.

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Aratzio

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On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:21:30 -0500, in the land of rec.arts.poems,
Gary L. Burnore <gbur...@databasix.com> got double secret probation
for writing:

>On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:02:27 -0800, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>
>>3. You are dying quickly, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
>
>Fixed that for ya. :)

Nah, not my style. Having been witness, I don't wish that on anyone,
well maybe Mitch McConnel but that would be about it.
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Peter J Ross

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In rec.arts.poems on Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:22:02 -0800, Aratzio
I respect your decision not to wish death on the most odious little
pool of verminous slime that any of us is ever likely to encounter
either in person on Usenet or in real life, though I disagree with
you.

Meanwhile, will nobody think of the poor innocent little tumour?
Imagine what it must be like to have to live and grow inside a
stinking subhuman clown like chuckles! Urgggghhhh! Poor tumour!


--
PJR :-)

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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"Peter J Ross" <p...@example.invalid> wrote in message
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> Meanwhile, will nobody think of the poor innocent little tumour?
> Imagine what it must be like to have to live and grow inside a
> stinking subhuman clown like chuckles! Urgggghhhh! Poor tumour!


Subhuman is better than sub simian which is where you are, Ross!

--
Gregory Hall


the messenjah

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On Nov 18, 3:42 pm, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <gregh...@home.fake>
wrote:
> "Peter J Ross" <p...@example.invalid> wrote in messagenews:slrnjcdg2...@peterjross.me.uk...
>
> > Meanwhile, will nobody think of the poor innocent little tumour?
> > Imagine what it must be like to have to live and grow inside a
> > stinking subhuman clown like chuckles! Urgggghhhh! Poor tumour!
>
> Subhuman is better than sub simian which is where you are, Ross!
>
> --
Ross is a sick man. His disease is worse. He has cancer of the soul.

> Gregory Hall

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Peter J Ross

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In rec.arts.poems on Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:09:13 -0800 (PST), the
messenjah <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> wrote:

> Ross is a sick man. His disease is worse. He has cancer of the soul.

"The only cancers from which you suffer are congenital cancers of the
soul and the imagination, neither of which is likely to kill you,
alas."
- Message-ID: <slrnj299j...@pjr.gotdns.org>
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/4655a727bbdc7f35>

Steal my ideas much, cancerboi?


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PJR :-)

ah

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Nov 19, 2011, 5:45:18 PM11/19/11
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His subtlety is second only to gweg's.

Aratzio

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On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:45:18 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah
Gweg's what?

(Baaa Daaa Bump!)

ah

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Er, it took me over six months to rid my mind of that unwanted image.

Thanks.
--
a "<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_NV_jhALus>" h

Aratzio

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On Thu, 16 May 2013 21:05:06 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, ah
As always, we try to *satisfy*
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