Re: Day's (Question for Karla)
Will Dockery
>
> > [Karla] feel[s] it is okay to lie while in a "flame war"
Yes, Karla once made that statement. I don't have that particular one
handy, but I do have one that is from around that time which details
some of Karla's tendancies for lying, misrepresenting and other
general falsehoods in the service of, or while involved in "flame
wars":
http://www.n-n-a.com/recreational/post-611037.html
"You are a little disingenuous sometimes, no? A psychodrama was in
progress,
about inflammatory language and sensibilities. Everyone at the time
was
scrutinizing everyone's attitudes about tolerance and intolerance
based on
how they used language here."
"Your friend looked on for years as Cook and Hammes and whoever else
went on and on about Chuckles being gay, then Bishop, and did she ever
write a single word against it? I keep reading Karla's saying that she
had been away from Usenet for a longish spell until 2004."
"Karla thought Cook's famous photograph was funny because it depicted
Bishop and Chuck, and was very clear about it. At one point she even
asked what the new link was duting the time PJR, Cook and others were
moving it around. She also, repeatedly and for months, pretended (with
others and in posts to Bishop) that the photograph was real. Only much
later did Karla make her statement against homophobic language, and
was very careful not to name names."
"Her social conscience that goes on and off like a lightswitch is just
too sickening."
--
"She Sleeps Tight", vocals by Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris, guitars by
Brian Mallard. Paintings by George Sulzbach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9uGY157cpiU
Will Dockery
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> BTW, you accidentally snipped
>
> No I didn't.
You snipped it because you wanted to delete the truth, then?
<content restored for focus>
> > > Most of Meat Plow's past posts have been posted with X-No-Archive
> > > enabled, meaning there's no record of them in the usenet archives.
>
> > Yes, and during that early 2005 time period Meat Plow deleted /
> > everything/ he posted here. Here's a fragment posted through a reply
> > that restates just what I've been posting here today about Meat Plow's
> > claims that his "music" is "better" than mine... before he admitted
> > that he doesn't even create music. I've edited what's left of MP's
> > post from the rest, here:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/a1ee48cb1...
>
> > Mar 14 2005, 10:12 am"Meat Plow" <m...@meatplow.orq> wrote in message
> > news:pan.
>
> > 2005.03.14.02.47.27.996...@nntp-server.meatplow.orq...
>
> > >On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:26:04 -0800, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > >> [WD]:The *real* fact remains, the reason for this bombastic bluster,
> > >> is
> > >> *still* that you made claims to not only make music, but made claims
> > >> your music was *better* than mine, and when I called your bluff, you
> > >> had nothing.
>
> > >[MP]: I still have the opinion my music is better than yours.
> > > The bombastic
> > > bluster occurs when you start asking people to prove their opinions.
>
> > This was before Meat Plow came out and admitted that "his music"
> > wasn't really "his" at all, but actually covers of songs written by
> > other people, which, of course, he was so hesitant to post an example
> > of his songwriting and complaining because I wanted "people to prove
> > their opinions".
>
> > If someone comes on here with the statement "my poetry is better than
> > yours" and then eventually posts a Robert Frost poem, calling it
> > "his", then his statement is erroneous. Apply that to someone making
> > the same claim about "his" song and you have the same situation. As
> > I've written before, Meat Plow wrote that "his songs" were "better"
> > than mine. For the songs to have been *his*, he would have had to have
> > written them. I responded well, post a link to one of these songs of
> > his that he stated were "better" than "mine". He refused, for good
> > reason, since he never had any songs of his own to begin with.
>
> Gunaxf sbe ernqvat naq pbzzragvat, gubhtu.
And thanks for reading and commenting, PJR.
--
Black Crow's Brother (Gini Woolfolk-Will Dockery):
http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4926102
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single interesting thought in them. You think you have the right to
flood countless groups with this Spam
because...well,eh,...because..... because you like to call yourself a
poet." -M.H. Benders
"Dockery, everyone knows that you haven't published a single poem in
your life except on your own website. Everyone knows no one will
remember you for your 'poems'. The only thing people will remember
you
by is the irritating spamming behavior you expose online which gives
Americans an even worse name than they already have. All spammers I
have seen so far were all without a single exception Americans. Why
do
you think that is? I'll tell you why: because they get the idea
spoonfed in their education that it's their godgiven right to pollute
the world with their 'opinions' - bolstered under the flag of
'freedom
of speech' without any sort of comprehension or reflection what
'freedom' or what 'speech' would be." -M.H. Benders
"Continuously flashing your small weener in public will not make it
grow, Dockery. You're just hungry for attention and there's only one
reason why: you're an empty windbag whose only talent in life
consists
of irritating other people. A masochist who just keeps coming back
because he's addicted to getting hit. Your a sad old fuck, and I hope
someone will shoot you soon. The world will be a better place if that
happens." -M.H.Benders
Peter J Ross
Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>> In alt.arts.poetry.comments Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, you accidentally snipped
>>
>> No I didn't.
>
> You snipped it because you wanted to delete the truth, then?
Truth should never be snipped!
For example:
"Dockery, everyone knows that you haven't published a single poem in
your life except on your own website. Everyone knows no one will
remember you for your 'poems'. The only thing people will remember you
by is the irritating spamming behavior you expose online which gives
Americans an even worse name than they already have."
- M.H.Benders
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
"Peter J Ross" says:
>
> Will "Zaaaah-Rooowww"
A reference to the Zorro project, apparently. The original website for the
Will Dockery-M.H. Benders "Zorro" project:
http://web.archive.org/web/20041117085027/http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm
"In my opinion Will Dockery is easily one of the most authentic American
poets around. A real coffeehouse poet who is not scared of mingling some
real American elements such as country music into his poetry. Whileas you
just try to appear as European as possible with all your sucking up to 80
year old European surrealists." -M.H.Benders
Some of the results from the Zorro project:
"Autograph of Zorro" by Will Dockery, Henry Conley & MH Benders:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G64jUD1tRRA>
Here's the original version:
http://www.archive.org/details/AutographOfZorro
Splendid times, indeed... more M.H. Benders quotes from the site:
M.H. Benders: "Hey Dockery, what about you reading some of my Dutch poems in
front of a live coffeehouse audience and videotaping it? I'd really like to
make this sort of cross cultural art. I will put it on
my website which is viewed by a lot of Dutch people every day. I wrote a new
poem called 'The Autograph of Zorro'. I have both an english and a Dutch
version. It would be fantastic if you could read it to a
poetry club dressed as Zorro, preferaably in both the english and the Dutch
version. Make someone videotape it and you can send me the
cassette and I will convert it to an internet video. I will promote this
video in whole Holland and you'll sure be a known name to the dutch poetry
crowd. Let me know how we continue."
Dockery: "I think this could be interesting. I saw a short video clip of
yours last Winter on one of the newsgroups that reminded me of the
video films I made with Truman Bentley in the years 1996-99, and the idea of
the reading of "The Autograph Of Zorro" brings back thoughts
of all those hours of footage. I'm thinking of a video for "The Autograph Of
Zorro" that would use not only me reading the English translation of "The
Autograph Of Zorro", backed by my jazz musician
friends, Henry, Grumpy, Follicle, et al... but..."
M. H. Benders: "That's great. It sounds like a really interesting project. I
will promote the video over my website which has about 80.000 visitors a
year, enough to give your name a decent boost into
recognition by dutch people. It's nice that these sort of cross-cultural
initiatives can develop over the internet. So much negativity floating
around that it's good sometimes something positive
happens."
Dockery: "Also various bits by other Shadowville poets and regulars.
Basically, just bring the camera and record what happens. The reading
of "Autograph Of Zorro" could serve as the promo for a further video
surrounding the readings. Over the course of a month of so, if it
clicks right, we could have several alternative versions of the poem, in
both English and Dutch... So, that's the basics, with extra shots
of audience members and other poets, et cetera. I send you all the results,
and you can use the one[s] most appropriate."
M. H. Benders: "Thanks for showing an interest in the cross cultural project
I am planning. You can arrange the reading events in everyway
that you see fit, I trust your artistic vision. When you have taped the
events you can send the tape. It would be nice, I think, to have some real
American elements mixed with it like Country Music (I have
always been a great country music fan) but you can also use jazz if you
want. I will make sure the video is digitalised and shown on different
locations on the Dutch internet. Then, in the future, we can
also try it the other way around."
--
Will Dockery, Folk Rock / Blues / Experimental:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
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single interesting thought in them. You think you have the right to
flood countless groups with this Spam
because...well,eh,...because..... because you like to call yourself a
poet." -M.H. Benders
"Dockery, everyone knows that you haven't published a single poem in
your life except on your own website. Everyone knows no one will
remember you for your 'poems'. The only thing people will remember
you
by is the irritating spamming behavior you expose online which gives
Will Dockery
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments Will Dockery wrote:
> >> In alt.arts.poetry.comments Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>> BTW, you accidentally snipped
>
> >> No I didn't.
>
> > You snipped it because you wanted to delete the truth, then?
>
> Truth should never be snipped!
>
> For example:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20041117085027/http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm
>
> "In my opinion Will Dockery is easily one of the most authentic American
> poets around. A real coffeehouse poet who is not scared of mingling some
> real American elements such as country music into his poetry. Whileas you
> just try to appear as European as possible with all your sucking up to 80
> year old European surrealists." -M.H.Benders
>
> Some of the results from the Zorro project:
>
> "Autograph of Zorro" by Will Dockery, Henry Conley & MH Benders:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G64jUD1tRRA>
>
> Here's the original version:
>
> http://www.archive.org/details/AutographOfZorro
"We know." -Dennis M. Hammes
Peter J Ross
Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "We know." -Dennis M. Hammes
"Continuously flashing your small weener in public will not make it
grow, Dockery." - M.H.Benders
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
>
> grow, Dockery." - M.H.Benders
Then M. H. Benders also wrote:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20041117085027/http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm
>
> "In my opinion Will Dockery is easily one of the most authentic American
> poets around. A real coffeehouse poet who is not scared of mingling some
> real American elements such as country music into his poetry. Whileas you
> just try to appear as European as possible with all your sucking up to 80
> year old European surrealists." -M.H.Benders
>
> Some of the results from the Zorro project:
>
> "Autograph of Zorro" by Will Dockery, Henry Conley & MH Benders:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G64jUD1tRRA>
>
> Here's the original version:
>
> http://www.archive.org/details/AutographOfZorro
"We know." -Dennis M. Hammes
--
Meat Plow
> You snipped it because you wanted to delete the truth, then?
The old cliche "when in alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems do as the
Dockery does" comes to mind.
--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
Will Dockery
>
> The old cliche "when in alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems do as the
> Dockery does" comes to mind.
So, you'll be posting some poetry and... heh... a link to your music,
then, MP?
--
Black Crow's Brother (Gini Woolfolk-Will Dockery):
http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4926102
> --
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single interesting thought in them. You think you have the right to
flood countless groups with this Spam
because...well,eh,...because..... because you like to call yourself a
poet." -M.H. Benders
"Dockery, everyone knows that you haven't published a single poem in
your life except on your own website. Everyone knows no one will
remember you for your 'poems'. The only thing people will remember
you
by is the irritating spamming behavior you expose online which gives
Americans an even worse name than they already have. All spammers I
have seen so far were all without a single exception Americans. Why
do
you think that is? I'll tell you why: because they get the idea
spoonfed in their education that it's their godgiven right to pollute
the world with their 'opinions' - bolstered under the flag of
'freedom
of speech' without any sort of comprehension or reflection what
'freedom' or what 'speech' would be." -M.H. Benders
"Continuously flashing your small weener in public will not make it
Will Dockery
>
> I guess the point is that Will feels vindicated because
> even though his work may be "crap" in the eyes of many people here,
Everyone has a right to their opinions of the work, and I welcome
someone who thinks they can do better... that's the reason for being
on these newsgroups, really, is to share and comment on original
works.
> it's still his own.
It sure is...
Will Dockery
>
> Everyone knows no one will remember you for your 'poems'.
Thanks for the comment and critique of my life, Gary. At least you
know you will be remembered... as the poet who gave us "Regrets of the
'Nam".
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.poems/2006-01/msg00901.html
"Nuff said." -Rik Roots
--
Crawford Road Crawl by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_1812970
ggamble
On 11-Nov-2010, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Everyone knows no one will remember you for your 'poems'.
>
> Thanks for the comment and critique of my life, Gary. At least you
> know you will be remembered... as the poet who gave us "Regrets of the
> 'Nam".
>
> http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.poems/2006-01/msg00901.html
>
> "Nuff said." -Rik Roots
You know full well that you're replying to Benders' quote. so, that's
misrepresentation number one.
You know full well that I didn't write that poem, so that's
misrepresentation number two.
You know full well that Rik Roots knows full well that I didn't write that
poem, so you're attempting to falsely use someone else's credibility to
further your attempt at deception, so that's outright lie/misrepresentation
number three in one short post.
Just today, you've falsely used Benders', Hammes' and now Roots' words to
imply that they endorse something that everyone here knows they would never
endorse. Add this to your hilarious schtick of *coming here to set the
record straight* that you're shoving down out throats multiple times a day
and one has to seriously wonder what you strive to do here beside irritate
people.
You have no other purpose other than, of course, the comic relief.
Will Dockery
> On 11-Nov-2010, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > Everyone knows no one will remember you for your 'poems'.
>
> > Thanks for the comment and critique of my life, Gary. At least you
> > know you will be remembered... as the poet who gave us "Regrets of the
> > 'Nam".
>
>
> > "Nuff said." -Rik Roots
<hypocritical whining snipped>
> You know full well that I didn't write that poem
How so, Gary? The poem is signed and copyrighted to: Gary Gamble:
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.poems/2006-01/msg00901.html
Regrets of the Nam
Perhaps someday when honesty is closer, more evident,
Words will replace the thoughts and feelings, so prevalent.
For now, I am gone across a lonely, regretful brine,
To seek undaunted peacefulness for my troubled mind.
[...]
The bitterness and regrets of war, beyond patriotic domestic
integrity,
Is a sad legacy imposed on children by evil and greedy hypocrisy.
Gary Gamble
Copyright ©2006 Gary Gamble
That's you, right?
<hypocritical whining snipped>
Will Dockery
>"ggamble" <gga...@bitter.burnout.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Everyone knows no one will remember you for your 'poems'.
>
> > > Thanks for the comment and critique of my life, Gary. At least you
> > > know you will be remembered... as the poet who gave us "Regrets of the
> > > 'Nam".
>
>
> > > "Nuff said." -Rik Roots
<ggamble's hypocritical whining snipped>
> I saw it posted here once, a while ago, and think I even commented on
> it. Yes, from the way he presents it, ostensibly to embarrass you, I
> assumed you wrote it.
It was written by Gary Gamble... that's who "ggamble" is as far as I
know:
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.poems/2006-01/msg00901.html
Regrets of the Nam
Perhaps someday when honesty is closer, more evident,
Words will replace the thoughts and feelings, so prevalent.
For now, I am gone across a lonely, regretful brine,
To seek undaunted peacefulness for my troubled mind.
[...]
The bitterness and regrets of war, beyond patriotic domestic
integrity,
Is a sad legacy imposed on children by evil and greedy hypocrisy.
Gary Gamble
Copyright ©2006 Gary Gamble
--
Will Dockery
>Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > It was written by Gary Gamble... that's who "ggamble" is as far as I know:
>
How far do I *need* to know, Hi?
It was written by Gary Gamble... that's who "ggamble" is as far as I
know. At leat the only "Gary Gamble" posting on the Usenet poetry
newsgroups, am I right?
ggamble
On 11-Nov-2010, Hi Corey <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You know full well that I didn't write that poem, so that's
> > misrepresentation number two.
>
> I saw it posted here once, a while ago, and think I even commented on
> it. Yes, from the way he presents it, ostensibly to embarrass you, I
> assumed you wrote it. I didn't know Will was lying about that too.
> I'm sorry, I should have known better.
No, I didn't write it.
It was never posted to a newsgroup until dockery started posting it here
frequently for the last six years.
It was posted on postpoems.com or poetry.com or one of those other fluffball
vanity sites.
I've never posted any of my work to postpoems, poetry.com or any of those
fluffball vanity sites.
No one who is familiar with my work would ever believe that I wrote that
piece.
So, it doesn't particularly bother me that pizzaboy keeps pretending that I
did.
It's all just a game to him.
ggamble
On 11-Nov-2010, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It was written by Gary Gamble... that's who "ggamble" is as far as I
> > know:
> >
> > How far do you know?
>
> How far do I *need* to know, Hi?
>
> It was written by Gary Gamble... that's who "ggamble" is as far as I
> know. At leat the only "Gary Gamble" posting on the Usenet poetry
> newsgroups, am I right?
How many times in the last six years have I told you that you're wrong?
Six years is a long time.
What the fuck is the matter with you?
Barbara's Cat
> Corey wrote:
On the contrary, the goober takes his lies very, very seriously.
--
Cm~
Will Dockery
So, another person named "Gary Gamble" wrote it, then... that's
possible.
> It was never posted to a newsgroup until dockery started
No, your memory is faulty here, Gary I read it here on the newsgroups,
I wasn't the person who "started" posting "Regrets of the 'Nam".
> > You know full well that I didn't write that poem
>
> How so, Gary? The poem is signed and copyrighted to: Gary Gamble:
>
> http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.poems/2006-01/ms...
Will Dockery
> On 11-Nov-2010, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > It was written by Gary Gamble... that's who "ggamble" is as far as I
> > > know:
>
> > > How far do you know?
>
> > How far do I *need* to know, Hi?
>
> > It was written by Gary Gamble... that's who "ggamble" is as far as I
> > know. At leat the only "Gary Gamble" posting on the Usenet poetry
> > newsgroups, am I right?
>
> How many times in the last six years have I told you that you're wrong?
I remember you even tried to claim you were not "Gary Gamble" at
all... since when is a habitual liar such as you supposed to be taken
at his word, anyway, Gary?
Barbara's Cat
> habitual liar
> Dockery
--
Cm~
"I win."
- Goober Dockery
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
ggamble
On 12-Nov-2010, Hi Corey <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
> He's mostly a burdensome menace; a tag along on his
> best days; an object of pity.
Yeah, I pity him, all right.
I once ignored him for two years, and his direct trolling of me only slowed
down slightly.
Will Dockery
>
> No one who is familiar with my work would ever believe that I wrote that piece.
Would they believe you wrote "Pete The Dog", Gary?
http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-buried-gg-107703
Or do you want to claim "Another Gary Gamble" wrote that one, as well?
Will Dockery
Like you once bullshitted that you were "too busy" to make a post on
Usenet, Gary?
--
"But, truly, I have wept too much! The Dawns are heartbreaking. Every
moon is atrocious and every sun bitter." -Arthur Rimbaud
Meat Plow
......<nods>......
--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
ggamble
On 12-Nov-2010, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How many times in the last six years have I told you that you're wrong?
>
> I remember you even tried to claim you were not "Gary Gamble" at
> all... since when is a habitual liar such as you supposed to be taken
> at his word, anyway, Gary?
So, you admit that I've told you on several occasions that you were wrong,
yet you continue to lie about it.
Awesome.
I always sign my pieces with either *ggamble*, or /gg, as you know.
Now, you and your mentor george will spend the rest of the day googling to
maybe find an instance from 12 years ago when I might have signed a piece
with something different, but I don't have that particular obsessive
compulsive bent, so I'll leave you to it.
Your little game of *you're a liar, so you can't be believed, and it's all
right to tell lies about you* would be really embarrassing for you if you
were a normal person.
I know you want nothing more than for me to engage you in another hundred,
thousand, ten thousand post thread in a back in forth about how you know
better what I've written than I do, but really, I'm not interested.
I can't even be bothered to *set the record straight* every time you type an
outrageous lie about me, that's a full time job in itself.
You remind me of chuckles in a lot of ways. There would be times in the
past when I wouldn't post to usenet for days, weeks, months, (you should
fucken try it sometime) and chuckles would post fake death notices about me
in a hope to get a response.
There were also times when beloved participants from aapc and rap would pass
away, and chuckles would go on and on denigrating the memory of our friends
just so he could be an irritant.
You display the same lack of humanity.
Your self-loathing is obvious to anyone who takes a real look at you, why
else would you build such an elaborate alternative universe in which you are
the undisputed king? I guess there's no real harm in that. I even suppose
you taking your fantasy world to the web is understandable. But, your
attacks on those who fail to play along with your self-deception are
particularly unsavory.
But, you'll continue to go after me especially since Rob Evans isn't here
anymore, you remember: mushmouth? Rob has a British accent, and is an
accomplished poet. He had sound files up on the BBC website. You spent
months denigrating his poetry, his accent and his physical appearance
because he wouldn't play along with your massive, narcissistic
self-deception.
You even went so far as to pose as one of his *friends* in a post to the
comments section of the BBC website in an effort to glean some private
information so you could bring it here to the newsgroup and use that
information as an object of ridicule.
It's in the archives. You're a sick little weasel.
Now, go use your limited imagination to make up some more lies.
Teredo
> On Nov 12, 9:41 am, Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "ggamble" <ggas...@bitter.liar.net> wrote:
>>
>> > No one who is familiar with my work would ever believe that I wrote
>> > that piece.
>>
>> Would they believe you wrote "Pete The Dog", Gary?
>>
>> http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-buried-gg-107703
>>
>> Or do you want to claim "Another Gary Gamble" wrote that one, as well?
>
> Is your intention for posting that to suggest that he's a fraud, or to
> publicly embarrass him for what you think is inferior work? What is
> your agenda, and how does this advance it? Do you realize that under
> the right light, given the right set of circumstance, your comment can
> readily be viewed not only as vindictive, but hurtful, as well as
> criminally and civilly actionable?
>
> For example, if it can be demonstrated that you knew or were previously
> informed that what you repeatedly post and attribute to one particular
> person is fundamentally inaccurate, and that your reason for doing so
> was to damage that person's character and credibility, and that the
> result of your actions were indeed damaging, you could be held civilly
> liable, and criminally accountable.
That's what it would take to clear some of those millions of bats from
his belfry. A subpoena to answer civil libel and defamation charges. I'm
surprised it hasn't happened. Guess it's too much of a bother knowing
Goober Duck hasn't a pot to piss in.
ggamble
On 12-Nov-2010, Hi Corey <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > How many times in the last six years have I told you that you're
> > wrong?
> >
> > > I remember you even tried to claim you were not "Gary Gamble" at
> > > all... since when is a habitual liar such as you supposed to be taken
> > > at his word, anyway, Gary?
> >
> > So, you admit that I've told you on several occasions that you were
> > wrong,
> > yet you continue to lie about it.
> > Awesome.
>
> That's enough. I mean that's really enough. He lives in the U.S. We
> may appear backwards, but we do have a few laws here, and the means of
> enforcing them. I expect you feel some amount of catharsis from your
> little rant, and are not inclined to pursue the matter further. All
> I'm saying is that it's not that difficult, it won't cost much in
> terms of time and effort, and in a civil society no one should be
> allowed to do what he's done without consequence, because such
> allowance hurts us all.
jurisdictional issues
privacy issues
enforcement of judgement issues
blood
from a stone
issues
Will Dockery
>
> You display the same lack of humanity.
Actually, that was /my/ line about you last year when you were posting
all those fantasy-lies about my life and family, Gary.
As you know, I've never sank to that low level you went to... I have
always stuck with the poetry, such as laughing at your "Pete The Dog"
poem:
>>http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-buried-gg-107703
No personal attacks, and unlike you, no bizarre fantasies about your
family and you, as you repeatedly posted about me last year. I'm just
commenting on poetry that was posted here, first, "Regrets of the
'Nam" (which, I suppose, is written by another "Gary Gamble", fair
enough), and then "Pete The Dog", which i assume you do admit to
writing.
Here's some of my poetry for that purpose, comment and critique as you
wish, as always:
--
Poetry Archive (Part One) / Will Dockery:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/will-dockery/poetry-archive-part-one-will-dockery/464151089801
ggamble
On 12-Nov-2010, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just
> commenting on poetry that was posted here, first, "Regrets of the
> 'Nam"
It was never posted here.
It was taken off the web and posted here by you.
If I were as fucked up as you, I'd do the same thing to you, but
you apparently don't care how bad the poetry is that's associated with your
name.
Will Dockery
> On 12-Nov-2010, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > I'm just commenting on poetry that was posted here, first, "Regrets of the 'Nam"
>
> It was never posted here.
Well it had to have been posted here for us to have seen it here,
right, Gary?
> It was taken off the web and posted here by you.
No, I saw it here, posted by Sick Mind, Max, or someone.
Ah, yes... here it is, posted by Max:
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.poems/2006-01/msg00901.html
Yes, I laughed at the poem, but I wasn't the first person to find it.
Meat Plow
> On Nov 12, 12:58 pm, Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "ggamble" wrote:
>>
>> > You display the same lack of humanity.
>>
>> Actually, that was /my/ line about you last year when you were posting
>> all those fantasy-lies about my life and family, Gary.
>>
>> As you know, I've never sank to that low level you went to... I have
>> always stuck with the poetry, such as laughing at your "Pete The Dog"
>> poem:
>>
>> >>http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-buried-gg-107703
>>
>> No personal attacks, and unlike you, no bizarre fantasies about your
>> family and you, as you repeatedly posted about me last year. I'm just
>> commenting on poetry that was posted here, first, "Regrets of the 'Nam"
>> (which, I suppose, is written by another "Gary Gamble", fair enough),
>> and then "Pete The Dog", which i assume you do admit to writing.
>
> That's slander, sir. I hope you know who you're talking to. I hope you
> don't think that's me. You've called me Gary before, you know. You
> should be very careful what you say around me. I tend to be very
> sensitive.
Actually, written defamation is libel.
Meat Plow
> Libel is the easy one. In an action for libel, damages are presumed and
> do not have to be proved. In an action for slander, the law does not
> presume that the publication caused the plaintiff damage. The plaintiff
> has to prove damage, except in four situations, one of which is that
> "the words are calculated to disparage the plaintiff in his office,
> profession, trade, calling, or business, held, or carried on by him at
> the time of the publication."
Slander = spoken, libel = published.
Will Dockery
>
> Slander = spoken, libel = published.
Yes, that's the way the two words have been defined to me.
--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:
http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
Will Dockery
>
> Rob Evans isn't here
> anymore, you remember: mushmouth?
Yes, I do!
> Rob has a British accent, and is an
> accomplished poet.
Well, his value as a poet is a matter of opinion, of course.
> He had sound files up on the BBC website. You spent
> months denigrating his poetry,
And that's somehow out of the ordinary around here? You must be
joking.
> his accent
Actually, that began when Rob "critiqued" my voice, then I discovered
just what a garbled whistle-lisper /he/ was, and critiqued his
"performance" accordingly.
Will Dockery
>
> Last winter he posted again and again that I had written this:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/45749eb71ba02f39?hl=en&dmode=source
Hold it, that's my poem "Corning Town"... I *never* credited you with
writing that, Cythera:
"Will Dockery" wrote in message
news:3db78$49d9dd5d$4b4c70b9$10...@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Corning Town
>
> I'm out walking again,
> ignoring the pain.
> Living like a poor boy again,
> streets and sheets of rain.
>
> In the early twilight,
> dewdrops on the glass.
> Her lazy hazy sway,
> through Midsummer past.
>
> She's still there,
> in her underwear.
> But my mem'ry and I
> can't make contact again.
>
> Where ever you've been or
> what you're doing while you're there.
> I just can't concern myself,
> or pretend I care.
>
> Under a jinx,
> black cloud of Charlie Brown.
> Sometimes I'm up,
> most times I'm back down.
>
> Deep river monkey
> anyway you look at it.
> Just too concerned,
> to let her go.
>
> Looking through a mirror
> somewhere in Shadowville.
> Pocket full of quarters,
> payphone is my thrill.
>
> Knocking the Union,
> seen serpents fall.
> Out in the distance,
> among the croaking frogs.
>
> Deep river monkey,
> across the divide.
> This is the year,
> we shall be blamed.
>
> Fair thee well my butterfly,
> I'm bound for Corning Town.
> Let me watch your eyes smile,
> for a minute or two.
>
> That's not me,
> I'm not on YouTube no more.
> Some other Touchdown Jesus,
> is breaking her heart.
>
> Bon voyage,
> I'll hit the road a while.
> Up to Russell County,
> with the little red fox.
>
> Mist in the snow,
> mist in the snow.
> Missed her I know,
> on these shaky streets.
>
> I'm out walking again,
> ignoring the pain.
> Living like a poor boy,
> streets and sheets of rain.
>
> In the early twilight,
> dewdrops on the glass.
> Her lazy hazy sway,
> through a sweet summer past.
>
> Words: Will Dockery
But glad to be able to clear up that attempted misrepresentation of
yours about me, Cythera... now have a nice day.
--
Will Dockery, Folk Rock / Blues / Experimental:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Will Dockery
>Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > I did not write that you
> > "took material" from Hearn though... that's a misrepresentation and
> > misquote of me you're attempting to put across, as you know perfectly
> > well, Cythera.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/search?hl=en&...
Well, thanks for proving my point for me, Cythera, just as you did
yesterday when you linked to my poem, after making the outrageously
inaccurate attempt at misrepresenting me in reference to it:
> > Last winter he posted again and again that I had written this:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/45749eb71...
Will Dockery
>
> No misquote.
Yes, and a misrepresentation of what I've written, as well, Cythera.
> *You* put the phrase
No, you've been using the phrase, which is inaccurate. See below.
> "took material" in quotes.
> You've claimed multiple times that I took material from Hearn:
Yet you can't seem to show that I ever claimed that you "took
material" from Hearn. What I wrote was:
> > I made the point that your Fuji-san as an old man with a hat was not
> > an idea original to you, but one at least a hundred or so years old,
> > and most likely older than that, Cythera. I did not write that you
> > "took material" from Hearn though... that's a misrepresentation and
> > misquote of me you're attempting to put across, as you know perfectly
> > well, Cythera.
> >http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/fuji-san.html
> Buh-bye
Until the next time you decide to wander by, Cythera, sure, have a
nice day.
--
Corning Town by Dockery-Mallard:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery#!/artist/song_details/1837363
the messenjah
> On 12-Nov-2010, Hi Corey <hieronymous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > How many times in the last six years have I told you that you're
> > > wrong?
>
> > > > I remember you even tried to claim you were not "Gary Gamble" at
> > > > all... since when is a habitual liar such as you supposed to be taken
> > > > at his word, anyway, Gary?
>
> > > So, you admit that I've told you on several occasions that you were
> > > wrong,
> > > yet you continue to lie about it.
> > > Awesome.
>
> > That's enough. I mean that's really enough. He lives in the U.S. We
> > may appear backwards, but we do have a few laws here, and the means of
> > enforcing them. I expect you feel some amount of catharsis from your
> > little rant, and are not inclined to pursue the matter further. All
> > I'm saying is that it's not that difficult, it won't cost much in
> > terms of time and effort, and in a civil society no one should be
> > allowed to do what he's done without consequence, because such
> > allowance hurts us all.
>
> jurisdictional issues
> privacy issues
> enforcement of judgement issues
> blood
> from a stone
> issues
Gamble you suck.
Peter J Ross
Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Regrets of the Nam
>
> Perhaps someday when honesty is closer, more evident,
> Words will replace the thoughts and feelings, so prevalent.
> For now, I am gone across a lonely, regretful brine,
> To seek undaunted peacefulness for my troubled mind.
What I find particularly amusing is that even if gg were the
perpetrator of the above illiterate drivel, he'd still be a far better
poet than you.
Of course, Vogons are better poets than you, but they don't make fun
of your stupidity on Usenet so you don't feel the need to lie about
them.
--
PJR :-)
Peter J Ross
Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "ggamble" <gga...@bitter.liar.net> wrote:
>>
>> No one who is familiar with my work would ever believe that I wrote that piece.
>
> Would they believe you wrote "Pete The Dog", Gary?
A competent writer certainly wrote it.
One of the many amusing features of your current simulated crusade is
that you genuinely can't tell the difference between competent writing
(e.g "Pete the Dog") and laughable rubbish (e.g. "Regrets of the 'Nam"
or - even more laughable - anything you've ever written yourself).
--
PJR :-)
Peter J Ross
Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Corey wrote:
>>
>> Your assertion that someone has "bizarre fantasies about your family
>> and you" is <snip>
>
> Archived.
>
> It went on for a week or two last year during a meltdown ggamble was
> having over me.
You will, of course, be able to support your assertion with some
message-ids.
message-ids, in case you try claiming ignorance, are things like this:
<1991f69b-55ec-4e2b...@s11g2000prs.googlegroups.com>
That's the message-id of the article to which I'm replying here. It
appeared in the Message-ID line of your article's headers, and will
appear in the References line of mine.
gg has never, to my knowledge, used X-No-Archive, so you'll have no
trouble collecting evidence - if it exists.
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
>
> gg has never, to my knowledge, used X-No-Archive
No, I remember when gg often, almost always used X-No-Archive, but
many of his posts would be archived from that time in responses to his
messages.
--
From Henry F. Conley: "River City Grill tonight! Songwriters showcase
from 5-7 & another from 7-9:15 featuring Gene Woolfolk, Jr., David
Schwimmer, Rick Edwards, Will Dockery, Doug Conley & I. Come on out!"
River City Grill: •2301 Airport Thruway, Ste F-1 •Columbus, GA 31904
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Will Dockery
>
> the difference between competent writing
> (e.g "Pete the Dog") and laughable rubbish (e.g. "Regrets of the 'Nam"
So, why not take some time and show that you know the difference, PJR?
You know, the old "show, don't tell" rule?
Here's:
"Regrets Of The Nam" by Gary Gamble
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.poems/2006-01/msg00901.html
And "Pete The Dog" by Gary Gamble
http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-buried-gg-107703
That should be interesting.
mat1t3
> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> > the difference between competent writing
> > (e.g "Pete the Dog") and laughable rubbish (e.g. "Regrets of the 'Nam"
>
> So, why not take some time and show that you know the difference, PJR?
> You know, the old "show, don't tell" rule?
>
> Here's:
>
> "Regrets Of The Nam" by Gary Gamble
>
>
> And "Pete The Dog" by Gary Gamble
>
> http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-buried-gg-107703
>
> That should be interesting.
>
> --
> From Henry F. Conley: "River City Grill tonight! Songwriters showcase
> from 5-7 & another from 7-9:15 featuring Gene Woolfolk, Jr., David
> Schwimmer, Rick Edwards, Will Dockery, Doug Conley & I. Come on out!"
> River City Grill: •2301 Airport Thruway, Ste F-1 •Columbus, GA 31904http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Of course, gggggary has since distanced himself from "regrets..."
I wrote a review of it a few weeks ago.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/3ef08ef5b193383e?hl=en
I would say that the more distance he places between himself
and that lemon, the better for his illustrious up-and-coming writing
career.
GGGary, when you release your first publication, can I have an
signed copy? I'm a collector, you know.
Will Dockery
>
> > Regrets of the Nam
>
> > Perhaps someday when honesty is closer, more evident,
> > Words will replace the thoughts and feelings, so prevalent.
> > For now, I am gone across a lonely, regretful brine,
> > To seek undaunted peacefulness for my troubled mind.
>
You accidentally snipped the link to the poem, so the casual readers
can see what you consider to be the "better poetry", PJR:
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.poems/2006-01/msg00901.html
"How despicable is a child man, to enhance wrath upon his quaker,
Knowing how frivolous he is upon his own chosen acre
After so very long, my conscience is the stolid host,
Of afflictions imposed upon those I endeavored to care for most..." -
Gary Gamble
Classic stuff, indeed... heh.
Will Dockery
>Will Dockery wrote:
>> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > the difference between competent writing
> > > (e.g "Pete the Dog") and laughable rubbish (e.g. "Regrets of the 'Nam"
>
> > So, why not take some time and show that you know the difference, PJR?
> > You know, the old "show, don't tell" rule?
>
> > Here's:
>
> > "Regrets Of The Nam" by Gary Gamble
>
> >http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.poems/2006-01/ms...
>
> > And "Pete The Dog" by Gary Gamble
>
> >http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-buried-gg-107703
>
> > That should be interesting.
>
> > --
> > From Henry F. Conley: "River City Grill tonight! Songwriters showcase
> > from 5-7 & another from 7-9:15 featuring Gene Woolfolk, Jr., David
> > Schwimmer, Rick Edwards, Will Dockery, Doug Conley & I. Come on out!"
> > River City Grill: •2301 Airport Thruway, Ste F-1 •Columbus, GA 31904http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>
> Of course, gggggary has since distanced himself from "regrets..."
Gary's "distanced himself" from poetry of any sort for several years
now...
> I wrote a review of it a few weeks ago.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/3ef08ef5b...
>
> I would say that the more distance he places between himself
> and that lemon, the better for his illustrious up-and-coming writing
> career.
>
> GGGary, when you release your first publication, can I have an
> signed copy? I'm a collector, you know.
Heh... Order it from the International Library Of Poetry or whatever
they call it, printed on coffee mugs, t-shirts... you name it.
--
From Henry F. Conley: "River City Grill tonight! Songwriters showcase
from 5-7 & another from 7-9:15 featuring Gene Woolfolk, Jr., David
Schwimmer, Rick Edwards, Will Dockery, Doug Conley & I. Come on out!"
River City Grill: •2301 Airport Thruway, Ste F-1 •Columbus, GA 31904
Peter J Ross
Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter J Ross wrote:
>>
>> gg has never, to my knowledge, used X-No-Archive
>
> No, I remember when gg often, almost always used X-No-Archive, but
> many of his posts would be archived from that time in responses to his
> messages.
As always, feel free to provide evidence.
(This is where Dreckery runs away and babbles in another thread
instead.)
--
PJR :-)
Peter J Ross
Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> the difference between competent writing
>> (e.g "Pete the Dog") and laughable rubbish (e.g. "Regrets of the 'Nam"
>
> So, why not take some time and show that you know the difference, PJR?
My ten years' history of discussing poetry on Usenet shows that I know
the difference, just as your ten years' history of metaphorically
lighting your farts on Usenet shows that you don't.
Unless the authors of the two pieces ask me for critique, I see no
reason to comment on them in detail.
If I did write a detailed comparative analysis of the two pieces,
you'd merely snip it and pretend that you were going to read it later
- like you did with the article about poetry that gg posted recently.
But be of good cheer, Dreckery! Stuart Leichter is back, and he's the
kind of posturing twit who'll try to draw attention to himself by
pretending to support you. He might even provide you with a few quotes
like Martijn's.
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
> > Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> the difference between competent writing
> >> (e.g "Pete the Dog") and laughable rubbish (e.g. "Regrets of the 'Nam"
>
> > So, why not take some time and show that you know the difference, PJR?
>
> My ten years' history of discussing poetry on Usenet
I've been discussing poetry on Usenet for just as long so that makes us
even, I suppose... heh.
Feel free to try and prove otherwise:
> So, why not take some time and show that you know the difference, PJR?
> You know, the old "show, don't tell" rule?
>
> Here's:
>
> "Regrets Of The Nam" by Gary Gamble
>
> http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.poems/2006-01/msg00901.html
>
> And "Pete The Dog" by Gary Gamble
>
> http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-buried-gg-107703
That should be interesting.
--
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http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4926102
Will Dockery
>
> Stuart Leichter is back
Where?
In rec.arts.poems, I suppose, since he hasn't posted on a.a.p.c. where
I'm currently reading and posting from..?
Peter J Ross
Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been discussing poetry
*sigh*
Here we go again.
message-id?
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
>
> I've been discussing poetry
Really? Lately all I've seen from you is you sniffing behind George
and Chuck, and your comparisons of my music to Dire Straits, PJR.
Where have you discussed poetry anywhere here in the recent past?
--
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http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Cujo DeSockpuppet
b3d5-86d...@39g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
> Peter J Ross wrote:
>>
>> I've been discussing poetry
>
> Really? Lately all I've seen from you is you sniffing behind George
> and Chuck, and your comparisons of my music to Dire Straits, PJR.
>
> Where have you discussed poetry anywhere here in the recent past?
Evasion noted.
--
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alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
Barbara's Cat
> Goober Dockery quacked:
>
> > Peter J Ross wrote:
> >
> > > I've been discussing poetry
> >
> >
> > Really? Lately all I've seen from you is you sniffing behind George
> > and Chuck, and your comparisons of my music to Dire Straits, PJR.
> >
> > Where have you discussed poetry anywhere here in the recent past?
>
>
> Evasion noted.
It's call "ducking".
--
Cm~
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:MPG.275cf2b8b...@news.eternal-september.org:
So was it more correct to say:
1. Duckery noted.
2. Quackery noted.
3. Either 1 or 2.
4. Both 1 & 2.
Let me know. M'kay?
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"It's so sad that the mentally ill were turned out by Reagan, and end
up on usenet harassing people as a form of therapy." - Edmo outs himself.
Barbara's Cat
> Barbara's Cat wrote:
>
> > Cujo DeSockpuppet said:
> >
> > > Goober Dockery quacked:
> > >
> > > > Peter J Ross wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've been discussing poetry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Really? Lately all I've seen from you is you sniffing behind George
> > > > and Chuck, and your comparisons of my music to Dire Straits, PJR.
> > > >
> > > > Where have you discussed poetry anywhere here in the recent past?
> > >
> > >
> > > Evasion noted.
> >
> >
> > It's call "ducking".
>
>
> So was it more correct to say:
>
> 1. Duckery noted.
> 2. Quackery noted.
> 3. Either 1 or 2.
> 4. Both 1 & 2.
>
> Let me know. M'kay?
Either or both.
Adding cowardry to your list would not be wrong,
despite its not being recognized as a real word.
--
Cm~
J. Corey Connor
> Adding cowardry to your list would not be wrong,
> despite its not being recognized as a real word.
You're a pussy, Cat.
mat1t3
wrote:
he/she's an eternal-september.org kook
that has morphed into a dry hump online.
very sad.
Will Dockery
> On Nov 29, 4:15 pm, "J. Corey Connor" wrote:
>> On Nov 29, 6:11 pm, Barbara Cat <c...@XSPAMscientist.com> wrote:
>
> > > Adding cowardry to your list would not be wrong,
> > > despite its not being recognized as a real word.
>
> > You're a pussy, Cat.
>
> he/she's an eternal-september.org kook
> that has morphed into a dry hump online.
>
> very sad.
Indeed, and hard to believe there was a time when Barbara was one of
the most prolific poets on Usenet, way before any of your times, it
seems:
http://www.youpoetry.info/the-poetry-of-barbaras-cat-perfect-day
"...My friends call me Cat. I just recently discovered this group and
found it interesting. I like the way the participants give
constructive criticism on each other’s poetry. Therefore, if I may, I
would like to become a participant too. Right now, I am going to only
read messages (to learn everyone’s personality) then later, once I
feel comfortable, I will post my opinions and criticisms..." -Barbara
Cat
--
"She Sleeps Tight" by Will Dockery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v9uGY157cpiU
mat1t3
> On Nov 29, 6:17 pm, mat1t3 <amirrorcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29, 4:15 pm, "J. Corey Connor" wrote:
> >> On Nov 29, 6:11 pm, Barbara Cat <c...@XSPAMscientist.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Adding cowardry to your list would not be wrong,
> > > > despite its not being recognized as a real word.
>
> > > You're a pussy, Cat.
>
> > he/she's an eternal-september.org kook
> > that has morphed into a dry hump online.
>
> > very sad.
>
> Indeed, and hard to believe there was a time when Barbara was one of
> the most prolific poets on Usenet, way before any of your times, it
> seems:
>
> http://www.youpoetry.info/the-poetry-of-barbaras-cat-perfect-day
...there's like two poems in that entire thread.
>
> "...My friends call me Cat. I just recently discovered this group and
> found it interesting. I like the way the participants give
> constructive criticism on each other’s poetry. Therefore, if I may, I
> would like to become a participant too. Right now, I am going to only
> read messages (to learn everyone’s personality) then later, once I
> feel comfortable, I will post my opinions and criticisms..." -Barbara
> Cat
>
> --
> "She Sleeps Tight" by Will Dockery:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v9uGY157cpiU
What about that time when s/he went away for
awhile and came back worse than before??
...something about a sporting goods shop, or something.
I remember it cropped up during the HIA days.
S/he wrote a message to the group sharing
a personal feeling of inadequacy as a writer of
poetry and that s/he would go away and return
with "more to offer".
S/he came back and turned into a Duck hunter along
side Hammes. That's about it.
Will Dockery
> On Nov 29, 7:31 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Nov 29, 6:17 pm, mat1t3 <amirrorcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > On Nov 29, 4:15 pm, "J. Corey Connor" wrote:
>> >> On Nov 29, 6:11 pm, Barbara Cat <c...@XSPAMscientist.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Adding cowardry to your list would not be wrong,
> > > > > despite its not being recognized as a real word.
>
> > > > You're a pussy, Cat.
>
> > > he/she's an eternal-september.org kook
> > > that has morphed into a dry hump online.
>
> > > very sad.
>
> > Indeed, and hard to believe there was a time when Barbara was one of
> > the most prolific poets on Usenet, way before any of your times, it
> > seems:
>
> >http://www.youpoetry.info/the-poetry-of-barbaras-cat-perfect-day
>
> ...there's like two poems in that entire thread.
Yeah, and some real cutting swipes from Hammes (who accused Barbara's
Cat of being Tom Bishop!) and PJR (who advises BC just give up poetry,
which she actuall did, it seems).
> > "...My friends call me Cat. I just recently discovered this group and
> > found it interesting. I like the way the participants give
> > constructive criticism on each other’s poetry. Therefore, if I may, I
> > would like to become a participant too. Right now, I am going to only
> > read messages (to learn everyone’s personality) then later, once I
> > feel comfortable, I will post my opinions and criticisms..." -Barbara
> > Cat
>
> > --
> > "She Sleeps Tight" by Will Dockery:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v9uGY157cpiU
>
> What about that time when s/he went away for
> awhile and came back worse than before??
> ...something about a sporting goods shop, or something.
> I remember it cropped up during the HIA days.
> S/he wrote a message to the group sharing
> a personal feeling of inadequacy as a writer of
> poetry and that s/he would go away and return
> with "more to offer".
>
> S/he came back and turned into a Duck hunter along
> side Hammes. That's about it.
Yes, I remember that... Barbie promised to go away and not come back
until she was a "better poet", that lasted about a week and she hasn't
posted a poem since in the six years since then.
--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:
http://www,myspace.com/willdockery