Robert Morpheal's poetry sucks donkey dicks
Will Dockery
Orpheal. Beacuse I'm all ethereal and orpheal and shit like his
poetry.
Dale Houstman
Finally, something Will and I can agree on. Not only is Morpheal's
"poetry" the worst thing since celluloid firesuits, he composes it by
the truckload.
dmh
Will Dockery
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > Is "Morpheal" even his real name? Fine, I'm changing my surname to
> > Orpheal. Beacuse I'm all ethereal and orpheal and shit like his
> > poetry.
>
> Finally, something Will and I can agree on.
No, Dale. We're consistant here, since it was Wilma, not me, that
posted this:
----
From: Will Dockery (wilmad...@hotmail.com)
Subject: Robert Morpheal's poetry sucks donkey dicks
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Is "Morpheal" even his real name? Fine, I'm changing my surname to
Orpheal. Beacuse I'm all ethereal and orpheal and shit like his
poetry.
----
But, sadly, I consider *you* a pretty good poet:
----
Her Lark Colony
The blue stamp
of feet each night
is a collector's item
& her red tuba abandoned
by the army you pass
upon the trench's staircase
is a collector's item.
I'll not wake you abruptly
by folding her almond-white scarf
like her almond-white voice
in this absinthe-tasting century.
The white nuns
behind white pylons.
Naked white nuns,
cake white nuns,
salt white nuns
with salt white guns.
I'll not wake you abruptly
by folding her almond-white scarf
like her almond-white voice
in this absinthe-tasting century
which is a collector's item.
___
dmh
----
Hope this helps.
--
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john adams
"Will Dockery" <shamank...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dale Houstman wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>> > Is "Morpheal" even his real name? Fine, I'm changing my surname to
>> > Orpheal. Beacuse I'm all ethereal and orpheal and shit like his
>> > poetry.
>>
>> Finally, something Will and I can agree on.
>
> No, Dale. We're consistant here, since it was Wilma, not me, that
> posted this:
>
OH...we were wondering about that. Wilma Dockery
strikes again.
Dale Houstman
Will Dockery wrote:
> Dale Houstman wrote:
>
>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>>Is "Morpheal" even his real name? Fine, I'm changing my surname to
>>>Orpheal. Beacuse I'm all ethereal and orpheal and shit like his
>>>poetry.
>>
>>Finally, something Will and I can agree on.
>
>
> No, Dale. We're consistant here, since it was Wilma, not me, that
> posted this:
Ah! I should have known you still had the poetic sensibilities of a fake
crab salad.
dmh
Will Dockery
So, since I like your poetry, this is a confession that you're a fraud,
Dale?
Dale Houstman
Will Dockery wrote:
> Dale Houstman wrote:
>
>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>>>>Is "Morpheal" even his real name? Fine, I'm changing my surname to
>>>>>Orpheal. Beacuse I'm all ethereal and orpheal and shit like his
>>>>>poetry.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, something Will and I can agree on.
>>>
>>>No, Dale. We're consistant here, since it was Wilma, not me, that
>>>posted this:
>>
>>Ah! I should have known you still had the poetic sensibilities of a
>
> fake crab salad.
>
> So, since I like your poetry, this is a confession that you're a fraud,
> Dale?
>
Glib, but wildly inaccurate. And madly paradoxical: IF I were a fraud,
it would mean that your sensibilities were - as I said - pure tripe. Are
you making a confession? Since I'm not a fraud, we have to assume you
like my poetry for the wrong reasons. Since you have repeatedly revealed
your inability to discern what poetry is, I think this is a great
possibility.
Just because a village idiot can - from time to time - accidentally get
his shoes on the right feet, it doesn't mean he's not still a village idiot.
In actuality, you have allowed yourself to be reduced to the position of
being the only person here Martijn really IS superior to. That's why he
pretends to like you. Anyone with an ounce of self-respect or
discernment would have woken up to that fact by now. You seem to like to
enjoy being his token American love toy.
Truly and deeply pathetic...
dmh
Will Dockery
Dale Houstman wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>Is "Morpheal" even his real name? Fine, I'm changing my surname
to
> >>>>>Orpheal. Beacuse I'm all ethereal and orpheal and shit like his
> >>>>>poetry.
> >>>>
> >>>>Finally, something Will and I can agree on.
> >>>
> >>>No, Dale. We're consistant here, since it was Wilma, not me, that
> >>>posted this:
> >>
> >>Ah! I should have known you still had the poetic sensibilities of a
> >
> > fake crab salad.
> >
> > So, since I like your poetry, this is a confession that you're a
fraud,
> > Dale?
>
> Glib, but wildly inaccurate. And madly paradoxical: IF I were a
fraud,
> it would mean that your sensibilities were - as I said - pure tripe.
Are
> you making a confession? Since I'm not a fraud, we have to assume you
> like my poetry for the wrong reasons.
No, the simple matter is that you can't command who likes your poetry
and who doesn't... or the reasons *why* they like the stuff.
Plenty here think your poetry is crap. I don't.
And, of *course* would deny you are a "fraud"... I pointed out that you
seem to have slipped up and confessed to it accidentaly.
Will Dockery
"john adams" wrote
> "Will Dockery" <shamank...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > Dale Houstman wrote:
> >> > Is "Morpheal" even his real name? Fine, I'm changing my surname to
> >> > Orpheal. Beacuse I'm all ethereal and orpheal and shit like his
> >> > poetry.
> >>
> >> Finally, something Will and I can agree on.
> >
> > No, Dale. We're consistant here, since it was Wilma, not me, that
> > posted this
>
> OH...we were wondering about that. Wilma Dockery
> strikes again.
And poor bitter Dale Houstman was so eager to bash Morpheal, he was blinded
by his jealousy and fell for it.
A favorite of mine, by Houstman:
----
Two Little Things
1.
Night, a letter, only
its sans serif peak encased
in pale metallic threads
wandered away
upon a boat’s reflection
full of anxious waiters
and haloed suitcases stacked
under the blue trees
which are literary
like varnished ropes.
2.
Day, a bloodstain
on the schoolgirl’s pigtail
maybe it’s a violin
embedded in a hand
an ornamental nova
or not
a van full of roses
bulging in a grocery bag
or not
-Dale Houstman
----
Hope this helps.
--
"I saw a werewolf drinkin' a pina colada at Trader Vic's
And his hair was perfect." -Warren Zevon
The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
project <http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm>
Autograph Of Zorro" {from *Shadowville Live*}:
<http://www.kannibaal.nl/zorro.mp3>
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <will_d...@knology.net> said:
> "john adams" wrote
> > "Will Dockery" <shamank...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > > Dale Houstman wrote:
> > >> > Is "Morpheal" even his real name? Fine, I'm changing my surname to
> > >> > Orpheal. Beacuse I'm all ethereal and orpheal and shit like his
> > >> > poetry.
> > >>
> > >> Finally, something Will and I can agree on.
> > >
> > > No, Dale. We're consistant here, since it was Wilma, not me, that
> > > posted this
> >
> > OH...we were wondering about that. Wilma Dockery
> > strikes again.
>
> And poor bitter Dale Houstman was so eager to bash Morpheal, he was blinded
> by his jealousy and fell for it.
>
> A favorite of mine, by Houstman:
>
> ----
> Two Little Things
>
> 1.
>
> Night, a letter, only
> its sans serif peak encased
> in pale metallic threads
> wandered away
> upon a boat?s reflection
> full of anxious waiters
> and haloed suitcases stacked
> under the blue trees
> which are literary
> like varnished ropes.
>
> 2.
>
> Day, a bloodstain
> on the schoolgirl?s pigtail
> maybe it?s a violin
> embedded in a hand
> an ornamental nova
> or not
> a van full of roses
> bulging in a grocery bag
> or not
> -Dale Houstman
> ----
>
> Hope this helps.
Little Willma's Compliance to
Cat's Laws of Pizzagirls
noted... again.
* Cat's Laws of Pizzagirls *
First Law:
A pizzagirl must be obsessed with a human being
and, through obsession, cause all human beings
to point and laugh at it.
Second Law:
A pizzagirl must be obsessed with a human being's
posts and obsessively repost them over and over
again in addition to obeying the First Law.
Third Law:
A pizzagirl must confirm itself as the pathetic
obsessed pizzagirl it is by habitually posting
spam links to its pathetic pizzagirl excrement
within each of its obsessed pizzagirl posts in
addition to obeying the First and Second Law.
--
Cm~
Dale Houstman
Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>OH...we were wondering about that. Wilma Dockery
>>strikes again.
>
>
> And poor bitter Dale Houstman was so eager to bash Morpheal, he was blinded
> by his jealousy and fell for it.
Nope not jealousy. Quite the opposite, and something you are probably
incapable of comprehending: I actually was willing to admit you you were
right for once. Humans do things like that. You should join.
Morpheal couldn't write a poem that good - despite the fact that he
often composes up to twenty-five poems A DAY! - if he hired you to write
it for him. The fact that you are incapable of seeing the difference
between Morpheal's congenital seepage and my poem only proves (once
again and as if it were necessary) that you are poetically inept.
dmh
Will Dockery
"Dale Houstman" <dm...@skypoint.com> wrote
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>OH...we were wondering about that. Wilma Dockery
> >>strikes again.
> >
> > And poor bitter Dale Houstman was so eager to bash Morpheal, he was
blinded
> > by his jealousy and fell for it.
>
> Nope not jealousy. Quite the opposite, and something you are probably
> incapable of comprehending: I actually was willing to admit you you were
> right for once. Humans do things like that. You should join.
I admitted you were right when I proclaimed you were the best poet currently
posting to Usenet.
By the way, have you decided to permit or deny my performance of "Her Lark
Colony", yet? The next chance for a public performance will be Wednesday,
with Zack Gamble.
Let me know.
I don't even *remember* any of Morpheal's poetry at the moment, which is why
I made a point to point out that I didn't write the post you foolishly and
eagerly responded to.
You were trolled, old son.
john adams
"Will Dockery" <will_d...@knology.net> wrote in message
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No, and I don't care about the petty ongoing
dispute you have with Dale. It's kind of
6th grade-ish to be honest.
-john
Will Dockery
"john adams" wrote
> "Will Dockery" <will_d...@knology.net> wrote
We have no dispute, John. Dale and I are the best of pals.
I'm currently working with adapting one of his poems into song, in fact.
Robert Morpheal
> Orpheal. Beacuse I'm all ethereal and orpheal and shit like his
> poetry.
Was Bob Dylan his real name ? Not that we write in the same style or on
the same subject matter.
> Her Lark Colony Interpolated
> The blue stamp
melancholy dreaming
> of feet each night
arriving to explore your slumber
> is a collector's item
Victoriana from darkest Africa
> & her red tuba abandoned
among other tawdry sexual devices,
> by the army you pass
encamped at the bathroom waterfall,
> upon the trench's staircase
entering and leaving a village whorehouse
> is a collector's item.
Another tribal fetish object.
> I'll not wake you abruptly
with little doses of morning narcotic,
> by folding her almond-white scarf
upon gold embroidered breasts,
> like her almond-white voice
offered as a sacrament upon the altar,
> in this absinthe-tasting century.
Desparate for new forms of poetic suicide.
> The white nuns
slowly dissected each other's veins
> behind white pylons.
spattering them with virgin red hearts.
> Naked white nuns,
longing to be wrapped in red and gold silk,
> cake white nuns,
dissolving slowly in the mouths of priests,
> salt white nuns
wiped from cardinals' brows
> with salt white guns.
besieging the genitals of the east.
> I'll not wake you abruptly
with inistence on Aristotelian taxonomies
> by folding her almond-white scarf
across pierced nipples of belief,
> like her almond-white voice
tatooed with twelve celestial languages
> in this absinthe-tasting century
with its silver spooned sugar cube politics
> which is a collector's item.
Even when all the words have fallen from it.
R.M.
Will Dockery
Heh. So the motive for Dale Houstman's hissy fit is noted. Thanks,
Robert.
john adams
Oh, aren't you cute.
Will Dockery
Heh. I haven't been known as *cute* in many years. These days its
usually just "ruggedly handsome" in a "seasoned" sort of way.
I want to be Lee Marvin when I grow up.
--
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Robert Morpheal
> Heh. So the motive for Dale Houstman's hissy fit is noted. Thanks,
> Robert.
You are very welcome, Will.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> Ah! I should have known you still had the poetic sensibilities of a fake crab salad.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> And, of *course* would deny you are a "fraud"... I pointed out that you seem to have slipped up and confessed to it accidentaly.
Everything is phoney unless potentia of thought is revealed as actua of
creation. The poet is only godlike when the words become the truth,
leaving their more usual realm of the fictive. Don't you agree ?
R.M.
Will Dockery
Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
Robert Morpheal
> Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
Yeah, ok... except she can afford to capitalize it.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
Rock and Roll is about Truth ? No more than any thesis and antithesis
are about truths. The coin is heads AND tails. That's all.
R.M.
Will Dockery
Robert Morpheal wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
>
> Rock and Roll is about Truth ?
The *good* stuff is, yeah.
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j r sherman
says...
>
>
>
>Robert Morpheal wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
>>
>> Rock and Roll is about Truth ?
>
>The *good* stuff is, yeah.
how so?
here's a chance to explain yourself.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
"I saw a werewolf drinkin' a pina colada at Trader Vic's
And his hair was perfect."
Warren Zevon
------------------------------------------------------------------
Will Dockery
j r sherman wrote:
> >Robert Morpheal wrote:
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >> > Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
> >>
> >> Rock and Roll is about Truth ?
> >
> >The *good* stuff is, yeah.
>
> how so?
How not so?
j r sherman
says...
>
>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> >Robert Morpheal wrote:
>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
>> >>
>> >> Rock and Roll is about Truth ?
>> >
>> >The *good* stuff is, yeah.
>>
>> how so?
>
>How not so?
how is rock and roll about truth, dockery? how come you are unable to explain
yourself?
if you were an artist, you could explain yourself. but you're not, and it's
pretty obvious.
Will Dockery
j r sherman wrote:
> >> >Robert Morpheal wrote:
> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
> >> >>
> >> >> Rock and Roll is about Truth ?
> >> >
> >> >The *good* stuff is, yeah.
> >>
> >> how so?
> >
> >How not so?
>
> how is rock and roll about truth, dockery?
The *good* stuff is.
Barbara's Cat
posted 1 Jun 2005 17:28:42 -0700,
Will Dockery <shamank...@hotmail.com> said:
>
>
> j r sherman wrote:
> > >> >Robert Morpheal wrote:
> > >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Rock and Roll is about Truth ?
> > >> >
> > >> >The *good* stuff is, yeah.
> > >>
> > >> how so?
> > >
> > >How not so?
> >
> > how is rock and roll about truth, dockery?
>
> The *good* stuff is.
IOW, you've (predictably) got nothing.
--
Cm~
Tom Bishop
"Will Dockery" <shamank...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117669313.6...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> j r sherman wrote:
>> >Robert Morpheal wrote:
>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
>> >>
>> >> Rock and Roll is about Truth ?
>> >
>> >The *good* stuff is, yeah.
>>
>> how so?
>
> How not so?
There's a feeling I get
When I look to the west,
And my spirit is crying for leaving.
In my thoughts I have seen
Rings of smoke through the trees,
And the voices of those who stand looking.
And it's whispered that soon
If we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason.
And a new day will dawn
For those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter.
If there's a bustle in your hedgerow
Don't be alarmed now,
It's just a spring clean for the May queen.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by
But in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on.
- Led Zep...
Tom Bishop
...but dat jus rock-n-roll
j r sherman
says...
indeed, B'sC. as usual dockery is speaking of things he doesn't really
understand.
love and kisses,
j r sherman
j r sherman
says...
>
>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> >> >Robert Morpheal wrote:
>> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rock and Roll is about Truth ?
>> >> >
>> >> >The *good* stuff is, yeah.
>> >>
>> >> how so?
>> >
>> >How not so?
>>
>> how is rock and roll about truth, dockery?
>
>The *good* stuff is.
in what way? how is good rock and roll about "truth?"
you don't know how to form the thought, do you?
Sherrie Lee
Funny. I learned that song when I was fourteen, or something,
the first was Cats in the Cradle when I had 45s, but a babe.
Dear Lady, can you hear the wind blow?
and did you know?
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind
(Jimmy Page!!!)
And as we wind on down the road
our shadows taller than our soul
there walks a lAdy we allll Knoww,
who shines white light and wants to know
how everything still turns to gold.....
and if you listen very hard
the tune will come to you at last
where all are one and one is allllllllll....
to be a rock and not to rolllllll
rock. not roll! roll, roll, wheel on, baby,
sleep and dream no more!
:-) P.s. Does retirement suck? ahahahaha!
Obpoem:
the song winds down
slow down
take it easy
and he takes the front gate
breaking habit
and he turns his head
and he turns from the window
and he doesn't
and he doesn't know the stairway to heaven
where her gold hair but he sees
and she sings and smiles and he invents
he knows poetry but 'd rather play drama
cuz that's where the money pulls the head
from the prayer of insects and arachnids.
Tom Bishop
"Sherrie Lee" <sherr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117677513.0...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Guinnevere
Drew pentagrams
Like yours, m'lady, like yours
Late at night when she thought
That no one was watching at all
She shall be free
As she turns her gaze
Down the slope to the harbor where I lay
Anchored for a day
-CSN&Y
Tom Bishop
Sherrie Lee
That's a decent response.
I was expecting how Stairway is a tired out
played out song, but it was the hook for me
as I was too young at the time to have been
acquainted with the group. It was the song
that introduced me to LZ. It's on usenet
somewhere that my first concert was CSandN
no Y. They were old but pre-liver David.
There's a Guinnevere in every port.
I'm gonna screw up my myths but was it
White Knight? The actress that played her,
or is it the vision I have of wild, long
climbing ivy hair? I can't even remember the
true color, let's say gold like the song, and
green eyes. Anyway, those women are beautiful.
Barbara's Cat
j r sherman <jr...@earthlink.net> said:
> In article <1117672122.6...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
> says...
> >
> >
> >
> >j r sherman wrote:
> >> >> >Robert Morpheal wrote:
> >> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Rock and Roll is about Truth ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The *good* stuff is, yeah.
> >> >>
> >> >> how so?
> >> >
> >> >How not so?
> >>
> >> how is rock and roll about truth, dockery?
> >
> >The *good* stuff is.
>
> in what way? how is good rock and roll about "truth?"
>
> you don't know how to form the thought, do you?
Of course he can't -- he has a fro! Always the sign of a poor thinker.
--
Cm~
Tom Bishop
You know that I'd be with you if I could
I'll come around to see you once in a while
Or if I ever need a reason to smile
And spend the night if you think I should
but..
http://www.mikestrickland.net/todd/bangdrum.mid
I don't want to work
I want to bang on the drum all day
I don't want to play
I just want to bang on the drum all day
- Tod Rundgren
Sherrie Lee
> >>
> >> Guinnevere
> >> Drew pentagrams
> >> Like yours, m'lady, like yours
> >> Late at night when she thought
> >> That no one was watching at all
> >> She shall be free
> >> As she turns her gaze
> >> Down the slope to the harbor where I lay
> >> Anchored for a day
> >> -CSN&Y
>
> You know that I'd be with you if I could
> I'll come around to see you once in a while
> Or if I ever need a reason to smile
> And spend the night if you think I should
>
> but..
> http://www.mikestrickland.net/todd/bangdrum.mid
>
> I don't want to work
> I want to bang on the drum all day
> I don't want to play
> I just want to bang on the drum all day
> - Tod Rundgren
My home is half a walnut shell
The journey will be long
So I filled the hole with peppermints and creamy pink blanc mange
I sailed away for fifteen days
It never once got dark
And came upon two large houses
Set out in a park
Sherrie Lee
(Traffic)
Sherrie Lee
(I have to make a Diana_of_the_hunt apology for replying to my own
posts.
I meant to add that this song would go quite well with a scene
in a Terentino film. (sorry about the spelling) Anyway, it's got
a spaghetti western feel.
Tom Bishop
> My home is half a walnut shell
> The journey will be long
> So I filled the hole with peppermints and creamy pink blanc mange
> I sailed away for fifteen days
> It never once got dark
> And came upon two large houses
> Set out in a park
>
An eerie setting for a
walnut house.
And peppermints pressed
to the lip sting
violently.
A vulva with a cause,
that is the tit
that sexualizes flowers
and the Milky Way.
A Snickers candy
bar has peanuts, more?
Chocolate is like a galaxy.
Tom Bishop
Sherrie Lee
she buys a payday to give, to care
a fifth avenue, a one hundred thousand dollar bar
it is deserved, "just desserts"
without burning the note
like you should have
sorry, the pain comes from the kick
me note stuck in her back
Robert Morpheal
> > The *good* stuff is.
>
> IOW, you've (predictably) got nothing.
The whole of Usenet is about Truth. With a capital T.
The Truth of human nature and human culture. LOL
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> she buys a payday to give, to care
> a fifth avenue, a one hundred thousand dollar bar
> it is deserved, "just desserts"
> without burning the note
> like you should have
> sorry, the pain comes from the kick
> me note stuck in her back
Sherrie, that is the worst poetry I have seen in a long while.
Come on.... you can do much better than that.
Are you making a very special effort to be disappointing ?
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> (I have to make a Diana_of_the_hunt apology for replying to my own
> posts.
Isn't she the goddess of lesbianism ????
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> Of course he can't -- he has a fro! Always the sign of a poor thinker.
Poor thinker goes without saying, because no one really gets paid
to think. Not on this planet.
R.M.
Dale Houstman
Will Dockery wrote:
>
> j r sherman wrote:
>
>>>>>Robert Morpheal wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Patti Smith: 3 chords & the Truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rock and Roll is about Truth ?
>>>>>
>>>>>The *good* stuff is, yeah.
>>>>
>>>>how so?
>>>
>>>How not so?
>>
>>how is rock and roll about truth, dockery?
>
>
> The *good* stuff is.
>
Good explication there, Will. Are you running your genius machine on
lemons today, or what? Explain first how even "good" rock and roll is
about Truth, and then - as a further exercise for your obviously
atrophying neurons - explain precisely what "Truth" is.
Tom Bishop
> Good explication there, Will. Are you running your genius machine on
> lemons today, or what? Explain first how even "good" rock and roll is
> about Truth, and then - as a further exercise for your obviously
> atrophying neurons - explain precisely what "Truth" is.
>
Who in the fuck would stay in Minnesota into adult life,
taxi-driver?
Tom Bishop
Sherrie Lee
I don't know about the mythological goddess.
I meant Heather O'Neill who is a friendly poster here.
She apologises for responding to her own posts.
Nonetheless, what about
the song (being suited to?) a Quentin T. film?? I'm hungry
for a comment about that and you being and all. Thank you
in advance for indulging me.
Sherrie Lee
P.s. Googling Diana of the Hunt...
Sherrie Lee
Not necessarily. And thank you for writing
that I can do much better. What's wrong with it?
Barbara's Cat
posted Thu, 02 Jun 2005 23:57:20 -0400,
Robert Morpheal <morp...@sympatico.ca> said:
Truth: Dodgeweave Duck's (aka Dockery) archenemy.
--
Cm~
Sherrie Lee
Who has seen which websites I have visited?
For those who haven't, here's one:
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Mythology/Artemis.html
(from a wikipedia article)
For those who have, you will know from where I get the
following information:
There is a link between the goddess Diana and the Amazons,
who in some social groups have been associated with lesbianism.
The perspective exists that has the Amazons and Diana as celibate
(but for the occasional necessary breeding deeds) and a virgin
respectively. They appeared more focused on growing a society
as opposed to fucking around. It included agriculture and hunting
and perhaps warring in a more defensive (perhaps) manner
in order to rid their territory
of male, and potentially rapistic (neologism?), invaders.
In answer to the original question, Diana was the moon goddess
as Apollo was the sun god. They were twin siblings. Both were
warriors and skilled hunters. etc...
Dale Houstman
Sherrie Lee wrote:
>
> There is a link between the goddess Diana and the Amazons,
> who in some social groups have been associated with lesbianism.
This is mostly a modern bit of sniggling corruption: a society of women
apsrt was not uncommon in ancient times, and very little of a sexual
nature was ascribed to such communities. This isn't to say that there
weren't any comtemporary innuendos, but it doesn't appear to be a amjor
part of the myth. Women were mainly seen as either virgins or mothers,
best unseen and unheard.
dmh
Sherrie Lee
There was the patriarchal view.
Men didn't want sexual pleasure attributed to women,
and women enjoyed sex to such an extent that they'd
repeat it willingly after the pain of childbirth;
whereas, men, it is presumed, didn't endure similar joy.
Therefore, they participated in the creation, but ran
when it came to the responsibility of raising children.
This does not mean to say all men behaved the same.
Some men's jealousies over women's orgasms reduced them
to ritualizing the mutilation of the clitoris. Why women
have been convinced of accepting the ritual was through
ignorance. The men took the girls before they ever
experienced orgasm, frankly, the men knew nothing about
giving; therefore, the girls had no chance, regardless.
Those girls matured and allowed their
girls the same torture because it was all they knew.
The first women, with clitoris intact, fought. Some escaped.
They built their society.
Other men learned to enjoy a woman's orgasm but continued
to exercise control by making them sex slaves called "housewives".
Then the women's movement strengthened. Now, men have their
proverbial cake and eat it too. They pay for titty bars when they
have no slave at home for them. Women, again not all women,
have no need of slaves. When they're desireous, they drink beer
straight from the bottle. The men come, rather, follow.
Tom Bishop
"Dale Houstman" <dm...@skypoint.com> wrote in message
news:42A097A3...@skypoint.com...
>
>
> Sherrie Lee wrote:
>
>>
>> There is a link between the goddess Diana and the Amazons,
>> who in some social groups have been associated with lesbianism.
>
> This is mostly a modern bit of sniggling corruption: a society of women
> apsrt was not uncommon in ancient times, and very little of a sexual
> nature was ascribed to such communities.
Shame, that.
> This isn't to say that there weren't any comtemporary innuendos, but it
> doesn't appear to be a amjor part of the myth. Women were mainly seen as
> either virgins or mothers, best unseen and unheard.
You should see my /Amazon/ collection.
Tom Bishop
Karla
Clever troll, Mr. Houstman!
In high school, my friend Al was extremely proud of his Native American heritage
and was also extremely macho. It amused me to no end to find out that his NA
roots were Iroquois.
Karla
Robert Morpheal
> Not necessarily. And thank you for writing
> that I can do much better. What's wrong with it?
I have seen unintelligent poetry creation programs come up
with more interesting combinations of lines. Are you a human
or a bot ? A.I. can be really very convincing nowadays. So
there are instances where I am never sure. Particularly on the web
and even moreso in USENET.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> I don't know about the mythological goddess.
> I meant Heather O'Neill who is a friendly poster here.
Heather is Diana and Diana is the naked moon ? Mooning right along.
> She apologises for responding to her own posts.
> Nonetheless, what about
> the song (being suited to?) a Quentin T. film?? I'm hungry
> for a comment about that and you being and all. Thank you
> in advance for indulging me.
Indulgences are costly.
We have reinstituted buying of indulgences. We have a 30
day, 90 day, 120 day and 6 months no interest, payment plan.
You can buy as many indulgences as you like.
You can also buy as many as six for future use, if you know you
will need them.
We borrowed this concept for the priests of poetry, from
the medieval Catholic church.
I hope you don't mind.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> Truth: Dodgeweave Duck's (aka Dockery) archenemy.
Oh, the story of an odd duck.
I can think of several good Chinese recipes for duck
where it doesn't matter if the duck is odd or not.
R.M.
Sherrie Lee
That which programmed me is very intelligent.
It was not my intention to draw your interest.
It was the first in a vague documentation of a subtle message
to someone to whom support was attempted. The message was a test
upon the unfortunate one who fortunately is tormenting less
people and is righteously experiencing torment. Nonetheless, people
are being tormented as it lays dying and plotting new drama to
seduce another woman's man as she waits for his wife to die.
I'm sorry if you read nothing of interest in the poem.
It is raw. The point. The story is forming. And cannot conclude
until the trial does.
Sherrie Lee
Dale Houstman
Karla wrote:
> In article <42A097A3...@skypoint.com>, Dale Houstman says...
>
>>
>>
>>Sherrie Lee wrote:
>>
>>
>>>There is a link between the goddess Diana and the Amazons,
>>>who in some social groups have been associated with lesbianism.
>>
>>This is mostly a modern bit of sniggling corruption: a society of women
>>apsrt was not uncommon in ancient times, and very little of a sexual
>>nature was ascribed to such communities. This isn't to say that there
>>weren't any comtemporary innuendos, but it doesn't appear to be a amjor
>>part of the myth. Women were mainly seen as either virgins or mothers,
>>best unseen and unheard.
>>
>>dmh
>
>
> Clever troll, Mr. Houstman!
I don't know what the @#!?* you're talking about.
Sherrie Lee
gimel.
Diana
Sherrie Lee wrote:
> gimel.
What you smokin',girl? Camels? Just teasin!
Heya, Sherrie!
Tom Bishop
>
>
> Robert Morpheal wrote:
>> Sherrie Lee wrote:
>>
>> > Not necessarily. And thank you for writing
>> > that I can do much better. What's wrong with it?
>>
>> I have seen unintelligent poetry creation programs come up
>> with more interesting combinations of lines. Are you a human
>> or a bot ? A.I. can be really very convincing nowadays. So
>> there are instances where I am never sure. Particularly on the web
>> and even moreso in USENET.
>
> That which programmed me is very intelligent.
> It was not my intention to draw your interest.
Are you a visual artist, too?
> It was the first in a vague documentation of a subtle message
> to someone to whom support was attempted. The message was a test
> upon the unfortunate one who fortunately is tormenting less
> people and is righteously experiencing torment.
"pain" is just "niap" backwards, and "daiu" upside-down(sortof).
> Nonetheless, people
> are being tormented as it lays dying and plotting new drama to
> seduce another woman's man as she waits for his wife to die.
What a way to go.
> I'm sorry if you read nothing of interest in the poem.
> It is raw. The point. The story is forming. And cannot conclude
> until the trial does.
Sounds criminal.
>
> Sherrie Lee
>
Sherrie Lee
Tom Bishop wrote:
> "Sherrie Lee" <sherr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1117838470....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> > Robert Morpheal wrote:
> >> Sherrie Lee wrote:
> >>
> >> > Not necessarily. And thank you for writing
> >> > that I can do much better. What's wrong with it?
> >>
> >> I have seen unintelligent poetry creation programs come up
> >> with more interesting combinations of lines. Are you a human
> >> or a bot ? A.I. can be really very convincing nowadays. So
> >> there are instances where I am never sure. Particularly on the web
> >> and even moreso in USENET.
> >
> > That which programmed me is very intelligent.
> > It was not my intention to draw your interest.
>
> Are you a visual artist, too?
ha. ha.
> > It was the first in a vague documentation of a subtle message
> > to someone to whom support was attempted. The message was a test
> > upon the unfortunate one who fortunately is tormenting less
> > people and is righteously experiencing torment.
>
> "pain" is just "niap" backwards, and "daiu" upside-down(sortof).
...hmm. that was freaky for a moment considering
duad is panp (sortof).
> > Nonetheless, people
> > are being tormented as it lays dying and plotting new drama to
> > seduce another woman's man as she waits for his wife to die.
>
> What a way to go.
>
> > I'm sorry if you read nothing of interest in the poem.
> > It is raw. The point. The story is forming. And cannot conclude
> > until the trial does.
>
> Sounds criminal.
Indeed. But it won't go that way. They just looked for a way
to flush the toilet. But the shits not wantin to go down.
You know what I mean when that one little dingleberry just swirls
and then you gotta keep flushing?
Anyway. I'm off to tell diana_of_the_hunt about alarms...
Bye.
Sherrie Lee
Hey there! What's it take to draw you out??
These alarms here go off always on my shift!
Glad you're back in the eye of the needle.
*friendly girly smooches*
Sherrie Lee
Diana
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of needle,
than for a busy Diana to enter into the kingdom of RAP."
Unfortunately, I lost the source to the obscure quote, and to top off
the bummer, I dropped the keys to the Kingdom as well. Thanks for
opening the door.
What was it you were saying about a royal flush?
:x
Sherrie Lee
Diana wrote:
> Sherrie Lee wrote:
> > Diana wrote:
> > > Sherrie Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > > gimel.
> > >
> > > What you smokin',girl? Camels? Just teasin!
> > >
> > > Heya, Sherrie!
> >
> > Hey there! What's it take to draw you out??
> >
> > These alarms here go off always on my shift!
> >
> > Glad you're back in the eye of the needle.
> >
> > *friendly girly smooches*
> >
> > Sherrie Lee
>
> "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of needle,
> than for a busy Diana to enter into the kingdom of RAP."
>
> Unfortunately, I lost the source to the obscure quote, and to top off
> the bummer, I dropped the keys to the Kingdom as well. Thanks for
> opening the door.
yw. and thanks for reminding me that Needle requires no article.
> What was it you were saying about a royal flush?
heh.
> :x
ty.
Diana
Sherrie Lee wrote:
> > "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of needle,
> > than for a busy Diana to enter into the kingdom of RAP."
> >
> > Unfortunately, I lost the source to the obscure quote, and to top off
> > the bummer, I dropped the keys to the Kingdom as well. Thanks for
> > opening the door.
>
> yw. and thanks for reminding me that Needle requires no article.
Eye of needle. Hmmmm... Truthfully, an article in this case does
wonders for the sound of the lines.
>
> > What was it you were saying about a royal flush?
>
> heh.
Call me on grounds of silliness. I've no camel cash to up the ante.
reams of words that don't work, maybe.
---
"Ante up, don't be shy..."
-Suzanne Vegas
Sherrie Lee
Diana wrote:
> Sherrie Lee wrote:
>
> > > "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of needle,
> > > than for a busy Diana to enter into the kingdom of RAP."
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, I lost the source to the obscure quote, and to top off
> > > the bummer, I dropped the keys to the Kingdom as well. Thanks for
> > > opening the door.
> >
> > yw. and thanks for reminding me that Needle requires no article.
>
> Eye of needle. Hmmmm... Truthfully, an article in this case does
> wonders for the sound of the lines.
It's like going to Hospital or leaving University.
> > > What was it you were saying about a royal flush?
> >
> > heh.
>
> Call me on grounds of silliness. I've no camel cash to up the ante.
>
> reams of words that don't work, maybe.
I was trying to find some excellent information on
census and the pack camels' trek through the gate
of Needle and came up short on that but found a Chinese book
(probably because of the lack of article). What I gather is
the main character is trying to learn English.
An excerpt:
"So wonderful thing happen since last time I write, my poor language
can nothing show out of what my heart now hold.
Have patience with my dull and stupid writing while to you I give one
complete history."
The story goes on and enters more curiosity.
The student questions:
"Why all people say Chinese make all things to stand on honorable
heads, make honorable insides outsides, make honorable top sides down
sides? Truly these things I cannot to understand.
Question IV - Every body know Chinese people greatest inventors in
whole world, invent gunpowder, printing press, compass. Why Chinese way
not best and wisest? Why, in this College, every body say must read
from front to back of book? Why say eye of needle, when they mean nose
of needle? Why speak to learned person without taking eye-glasses from
face? Why is it best to serve dessert at the end and not at the
beginning of a feast?"
The book is, Seven Maids of Far Cathay, by Bing Ding, Ed.
I found it here: http://tinyurl.com/8phcq
Robert Morpheal
> That which programmed me is very intelligent.
Most monkeys can do better. Then again, monkey society is
socially advanced. Sometimes further advanced than the average
group of humans when it comes to their mutual survival interests.
> It was not my intention to draw your interest.
Obviously. You've joined a select group or club. It has a
growing and active membership.
> It was the first in a vague documentation of a subtle message
> to someone to whom support was attempted. The message was a test
> upon the unfortunate one who fortunately is tormenting less
> people and is righteously experiencing torment. Nonetheless, people
> are being tormented as it lays dying and plotting new drama to
> seduce another woman's man as she waits for his wife to die.
There should be more severe penalties for adultresses.
Shall we bring back stoning ?
Social stability is important and must depend on something
to uphold it.
I also wonder about widows who read the "Do It Yourself Widow" manual
and followed its directions. From what I hear it is more common than
the coroner can prove.
> I'm sorry if you read nothing of interest in the poem.
It became too childish. I am really only interested in mature ideas
and not at all in the writing of whimsy for the edutainment of toddlers
and young school age infants. The little bunny rabbit has sprinkled you
with foo foo powder and turned you into a goon !
> It is raw. The point. The story is forming. And cannot conclude
> until the trial does.
Guilty.
The new definition of "temporary insanity" is now anyone who attempts
in any way to communicate meaningfully and insightfully with anyone
else whom they meet on USENET.
Really. It is becoming that way. And strictly enforced.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> gimel.
A gimlet would have been more meaningful.
A gimlet is a "boring" tool.
I'm sufficiently "bored" now. Feeling quite hollowed out.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
>
> Sherrie Lee wrote:
>
> >
> > There is a link between the goddess Diana and the Amazons,
> > who in some social groups have been associated with lesbianism.
>
> This is mostly a modern bit of sniggling corruption: a society of women
No worse than a society of men.
Humans are humans. The excuse of gender notwithstanding.
All of them are equally guilty.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> There was the patriarchal view.
Live, on satellite sports television the matriarchs battle the
patriarchs. The most spectacular contest of human abilities ever
known to humankind.
Yeah, right.... a "nice" way to use up and waste people's time.
Start a gender war.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> Sounds criminal.
I had two RAP members plotting to escape their incareration
within the confines of America, recently.
Both criminals, in the way they eyed the border.
It is the problem of being Canadian. One has to watch out
for the cons and crims who are plotting their jail break,
from the U.S. side.
I think Canada is going to have to build a wall soon.
R.M.
Sherrie Lee
Now I know gimlet is more than a cocktail.
I don't understand why you're feeling hollowed out.
I'm feeling embarrassed, but that's to be expected
with an over-active self-consciousness. It's like I'm
out here to show everyone how ignorant I am. It's really
very undignified, but I've an addiction to discovery,
and each time I seek a fix that's (that I don't know)
what I find.
Diana
Sherrie Lee wrote:
> Robert Morpheal wrote:
> > Sherrie Lee wrote:
> >
> > > gimel.
> >
> > A gimlet would have been more meaningful.
> >
> > A gimlet is a "boring" tool.
> >
> > I'm sufficiently "bored" now. Feeling quite hollowed out.
> >
> > R.M.
If you knew you'd be "bored" by using this gimlet, perhaps you should
have tried Sherrie's gimlet instead. After all, a hangover is, on the
whole, a much better pain than the empty feeling of being "bored" on
all levels.
> Now I know gimlet is more than a cocktail.
> I don't understand why you're feeling hollowed out.
> I'm feeling embarrassed,
Me too, if I've missed the point to this boring, alcohol discussion. So
Painful! ;)
but that's to be expected
> with an over-active self-consciousness. It's like I'm
> out here to show everyone how ignorant I am. It's really
> very undignified,
but I've an addiction to discovery,
> and each time I seek a fix that's (that I don't know)
> what I find.
Yup.
---
Why does gimlet seem like a gremlin cooking a ham and cheese omlet?
Probably just me.
Sherrie Lee
Robert Morpheal wrote:
> Sherrie Lee wrote:
>
> > That which programmed me is very intelligent.
>
> Most monkeys can do better. Then again, monkey society is
> socially advanced. Sometimes further advanced than the average
> group of humans when it comes to their mutual survival interests.
My little niece wants a monkey. She draws monkeys, and
breaks furniture when she leaps from imaginary trees.
She'll know more about monkeys than I ever will, I predict.
> > It was not my intention to draw your interest.
>
> Obviously. You've joined a select group or club. It has a
> growing and active membership.
I forgot to call the 1-800 and cancel.
> > It was the first in a vague documentation of a subtle message
> > to someone to whom support was attempted. The message was a test
> > upon the unfortunate one who fortunately is tormenting less
> > people and is righteously experiencing torment. Nonetheless, people
> > are being tormented as it lays dying and plotting new drama to
> > seduce another woman's man as she waits for his wife to die.
>
> There should be more severe penalties for adultresses.
>
> Shall we bring back stoning ?
When the wife/husband find out, that will be enough.
> Social stability is important and must depend on something
> to uphold it.
And that is what you mean when you say truth?
Would that something be Reality TV politics?
Should the foundation be concrete? Or cameras?
> I also wonder about widows who read the "Do It Yourself Widow" manual
> and followed its directions. From what I hear it is more common than
> the coroner can prove.
What's more common?
> > I'm sorry if you read nothing of interest in the poem.
>
> It became too childish. I am really only interested in mature ideas
> and not at all in the writing of whimsy for the edutainment of toddlers
> and young school age infants. The little bunny rabbit has sprinkled you
> with foo foo powder and turned you into a goon !
Thank you for reading and responding, again.
The white rabbit idea was admittedly ununique (that word
looks like un un eee cue). I don't know if "that's what
it's all about". It seemed like a director's trick in a horror flick,
where there's the "calm before the" storming chainsaw wielder.
And when the game ends like that one person dies or two people die.
Or the rabbit runs into a whole 'nuther dimension.
> > It is raw. The point. The story is forming. And cannot conclude
> > until the trial does.
>
> Guilty.
I would not want to be the defense attorney.
> The new definition of "temporary insanity" is now anyone who attempts
> in any way to communicate meaningfully and insightfully with anyone
> else whom they meet on USENET.
Usenet is one camera removed from the four walls of
privacy. It would seem all truth points to reality TV, again.
> Really. It is becoming that way. And strictly enforced.
The monitor.
Sherrie Lee
Sherrie Lee
Diana wrote:
> Sherrie Lee wrote:
> > Robert Morpheal wrote:
> > > Sherrie Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > > gimel.
> > >
> > > A gimlet would have been more meaningful.
> > >
> > > A gimlet is a "boring" tool.
> > >
> > > I'm sufficiently "bored" now. Feeling quite hollowed out.
> > >
> > > R.M.
>
> If you knew you'd be "bored" by using this gimlet, perhaps you should
> have tried Sherrie's gimlet instead. After all, a hangover is, on the
> whole, a much better pain than the empty feeling of being "bored" on
> all levels.
>
> > Now I know gimlet is more than a cocktail.
> > I don't understand why you're feeling hollowed out.
> > I'm feeling embarrassed,
>
> Me too, if I've missed the point to this boring, alcohol discussion. So
> Painful! ;)
Here's the deal:
I'm minding my own business when I realize that I'm responding
to my own post, so I think of you. Not that I was trolling, but
I think you're an important person here; that's why I said, "Hey,
that's like Heather to feel, to bring attention to the post that
responds to her very own post." And Robert, as you may have already
seen, inquires about the sexual orientation of diana_of_the_hunt.
I do not know. I don't know much about all that stuff even though
I had a Mythology encyclopedia when I was a kid. I research it.
In the meantime, this Diana stuff relates to greeting cards and the
direction I see Morpheal going with his two line, two person, poetry
write off we were having in email. That could be the "tone" you were
missing. I'm beginning to get a clearer picture of "tone", btw.
It kinda fit. So I wished him gimel which is related to Diana even
though
gimel is the third letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Morpheal brought up
alphabet. It wasn't me. But I'm thinking it's kind of fun cuz it plays
into taroh cards which is like Ouija boards to a dendrite I have here
and
there from childhood. My burglar alarm goes off! And it wasn't even
set.
I have to suppress my adrenaline that the screaming maniac produces
and figure out how to kill the berzerko noise, call it trouble
shooting.
You wanna steal diamonds in the future? I've learned how to disarm
alarms.
Anyway, in between flirting with my alarm guy (who asked me what I was
doing for dinner... teehehhehehe...) and rap, sigh, I wanted a glass of
wine really badly... Are you getting the picture?? You and jr are
pretty
much the only ones with half a clue about me. Want more?
> but that's to be expected
> > with an over-active self-consciousness. It's like I'm
> > out here to show everyone how ignorant I am. It's really
> > very undignified,
>
> but I've an addiction to discovery,
> > and each time I seek a fix that's (that I don't know)
> > what I find.
>
> Yup.
>
> ---
> Why does gimlet seem like a gremlin cooking a ham and cheese omlet?
> Probably just me.
green ham and blue cheese?? :-)
Diana
Thanks.
And Robert, as you may have already
> seen, inquires about the sexual orientation of diana_of_the_hunt.
Yep.
> I do not know. I don't know much about all that stuff even though
> I had a Mythology encyclopedia when I was a kid. I research it.
Me too. Your mentioning it caused me to research the stories a bit more
than I had before. I was already aware of the moon, gimel (camel),
silver connection, so played off that when I saw your post with gimel.
I also played (too much, perhaps) with the contrast of the two gimlets.
I was not being serious at all. Very groany, in fact.
> In the meantime, this Diana stuff relates to greeting cards and the
> direction I see Morpheal going with his two line, two person, poetry
> write off we were having in email. That could be the "tone" you were
> missing.
Yes. :)
I'm beginning to get a clearer picture of "tone", btw.
> It kinda fit. So I wished him gimel which is related to Diana even
> though
> gimel is the third letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Morpheal brought up
> alphabet.
That's another point I must've missed.
It wasn't me. But I'm thinking it's kind of fun cuz it plays
> into taroh cards which is like Ouija boards to a dendrite I have here
> and
> there from childhood.
My burglar alarm goes off! And it wasn't even
> set.
That's pretty weird. It's funny how machines malfunction like that
sometimes. Our dvd player sometimes opens on its own. But that's a much
lesser thing than what you described.
> I have to suppress my adrenaline that the screaming maniac produces
> and figure out how to kill the berzerko noise, call it trouble
> shooting.
I hate that. Our smoke detectors cause me to feel the same way. Trouble
shooting almost literally.
> You wanna steal diamonds in the future? I've learned how to disarm
> alarms.
Sure, why not? :) Or learn how to disarm alarms anyway.
> Anyway, in between flirting with my alarm guy (who asked me what I was
> doing for dinner... teehehhehehe...) and rap, sigh, I wanted a glass of
> wine really badly... Are you getting the picture??
Poloroid perfect. I was missing a few pictures before your explanation.
You and jr are
> pretty
> much the only ones with half a clue about me. Want more?
Sure!
>
> > but that's to be expected
> > > with an over-active self-consciousness. It's like I'm
> > > out here to show everyone how ignorant I am. It's really
> > > very undignified,
> >
> > but I've an addiction to discovery,
> > > and each time I seek a fix that's (that I don't know)
> > > what I find.
> >
> > Yup.
> >
> > ---
> > Why does gimlet seem like a gremlin cooking a ham and cheese omlet?
> > Probably just me.
>
> green ham and blue cheese?? :-)
With green ketchup to go with it. But, no bleu cheese, please. What was
that gremlin thinking? Makes me a little sick. ;)
Sherrie Lee
Diana wrote:
> Sherrie Lee wrote:
> > Diana wrote:
> > > Sherrie Lee wrote:
> Me too. Your mentioning it caused me to research the stories a bit more
> than I had before. I was already aware of the moon, gimel (camel),
> silver connection, so played off that when I saw your post with gimel.
That's the way it's supposed to happen
and why I thank the Robert. Some associations,
relations, if you will, can turn out the 'funnest' play.
> I also played (too much, perhaps) with the contrast of the two gimlets.
> I was not being serious at all. Very groany, in fact.
And that's fun too. The groany part. The playing too much part I
totally
get it. Maybe it can be taken the wrong way.
> My burglar alarm goes off! And it wasn't even
> > set.
>
> That's pretty weird. It's funny how machines malfunction like that
> sometimes. Our dvd player sometimes opens on its own. But that's a much
> lesser thing than what you described.
That's the other thing. Morpheal goes all "the sky is falling, the
universe is exploding" on me, so I reassemble the fallout (what's
the opposite word for 'entropy'?) and introduce this white rabbit.
He still wants to bring in monsters in the manner of huge machines
that make me think of acres being plowed, so I want my rabbit to be
hopping in that field like (was it Watership Down?) like it has no
choice
since it's its only home, so might as well deal with it. Morpheal
didn't even have the decency to mow over my rabbit let alone have
a farmer shoot it for eating the crops or have the farmer's grandson
catch it and build a hutch for it. Morpheal simply quit and implied
the poem gave him a limp dick. Do *I* have to do everything??
> > I have to suppress my adrenaline that the screaming maniac produces
> > and figure out how to kill the berzerko noise, call it trouble
> > shooting.
>
> I hate that. Our smoke detectors cause me to feel the same way. Trouble
> shooting almost literally.
Yeah, I asked the alarm guy over the phone if I could smash it with a
hammer.
> > You wanna steal diamonds in the future? I've learned how to disarm
> > alarms.
>
> Sure, why not? :) Or learn how to disarm alarms anyway.
This alarm was easy. A matter of disconnecting one wire.
> You and jr are
> > pretty
> > much the only ones with half a clue about me. Want more?
>
> Sure!
You got it, Baby.
> With green ketchup to go with it. But, no bleu cheese, please. What was
> that gremlin thinking? Makes me a little sick. ;)
Sorry. I thought the bleu and the yellow egg yolk 'd make green eggs.
It won't happen again.
Robert Morpheal
> My little niece wants a monkey. She draws monkeys, and
> breaks furniture when she leaps from imaginary trees.
> She'll know more about monkeys than I ever will, I predict.
Maybe it is genetic and monkey genes are affecting her. You know
that the basic genetic blueprint is only part of the inherited material.
The physical biological "machine" has to have programs that make it
function. So maybe he inherited monkey software as part of her inherent
programming ? Would be an interesting subject for scientific study.
> I forgot to call the 1-800 and cancel.
It isn't the sort of thing you can cancel. It cancels you if you fail to
pass the membership examination. And you don't really want to be that
severely cancelled. Believe me, you don't. I knew of a few who were
cancelled that severely. It wasn't pleasant. Insanity or death as the
price of failure. I shudder to think about it.
> When the wife/husband find out, that will be enough.
Do you think that will give them further reason to live ? Some people
derive their raison d'etre, their reason for being, from fighting
endlessly with someone else. If that stopped they would simply cease to
exist. Their lives would have no more meaning.
> And that is what you mean when you say truth?
> Would that something be Reality TV politics?
> Should the foundation be concrete? Or cameras?
No. Nothing that simple minded. That's mass pablum. I meant high art.
> What's more common?
Women killing their husbands in legal ways. It never gets defined as
"murder" by the coroner, but a woman often knows how to push a man's
psychological triggers, and it can have physical consequences. I've seen
them working at doing it to their's. So I know. It is amazing how
stressful people can be to those whom they know well enough. Safest if
no one knows you intimately enough to push your buttons. Not practical,
perhaps, but truly safest. Those you are closest to might be those who
most want to collect on your insurance.
> Thank you for reading and responding, again.
> The white rabbit idea was admittedly ununique (that word
> looks like un un eee cue). I don't know if "that's what
> it's all about". It seemed like a director's trick in a horror flick,
> where there's the "calm before the" storming chainsaw wielder.
> And when the game ends like that one person dies or two people die.
> Or the rabbit runs into a whole 'nuther dimension.
Alice in Looking Glass Land. Somewhere on the other side of the nuclear
bomb. Dr. Strangelove meets Dr. Who and the Red Queen practices bondage
with the Jack of Spades. Something like that.
> I would not want to be the defense attorney.
It would be a very very long, drawn out, and extremely complicated, and
costly case, due to the need to severely punish the defendant for being
a victim of whatever the defendant claimed to be a victim of.
> Usenet is one camera removed from the four walls of
> privacy. It would seem all truth points to reality TV, again.
Reality TV is really only smoke and mirrors.
> The monitor.
All of the material universe is one giant monitor, recording everything
that happens for all of eternity. The giant brain, with planets and
individual stars being almost analogous to bits of neuron. Imagine it.
IT remembers everything you do, and everything you think is something
you do as a thought action, and everything you didn't do, and everything
perceived because that too is a thought. And everything the little black
sugar ant on the counter top thinks, does and perceives. Everything. All
of it. All into one huge massive hungry brain thing. Imagine.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> Now I know gimlet is more than a cocktail.
True also. And men tell more cock tales than women do.
At least among other men.
> I don't understand why you're feeling hollowed out.
I am as hungry as a vampire, but for something else, that
most people would never imagine or understand.
> I'm feeling embarrassed, but that's to be expected
> with an over-active self-consciousness. It's like I'm
> out here to show everyone how ignorant I am. It's really
> very undignified, but I've an addiction to discovery,
> and each time I seek a fix that's (that I don't know)
> what I find.
What are you really trying to discover ?
Most everything is likely to be misleading isn't it ?
Unless you know the appropriate equivalent to the secret handshake and
password for getting something more.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> Shame, that.
Doesn't really matter. In the larger scheme of things not much
more important than a flea bite. It itches a bit and usually that
all that it brings. An experienced mutt like me knows how to guard
against fleas and ticks.
> You should see my /Amazon/ collection.
Do you have them stuffed for display ? What do you have the taxidermist
do about the missing tit ? That's always been something that I wondered
about. I'm not an Amazon collector myself, but only curious.
R.M.
Robert Morpheal
> Good explication there, Will. Are you running your genius machine on
> lemons today, or what? Explain first how even "good" rock and roll is
> about Truth, and then - as a further exercise for your obviously
> atrophying neurons - explain precisely what "Truth" is.
Truth is that "matter", ie. the universe, has a complete and absolute
record of you, recorded within it for all of infinity. That's Truth.
Everything you ever thought, did, didn't do, said, didn't say, it's all
there in the Akashic record of everything that ever happened since the
big bang of this part of everything blurting out into time and space.
Now, what were you saying about Truth with a capital "T" ?
R.M.
Will Dockery
Dale Houstman wrote:
>
> Good explication there, Will. Are you running your genius machine on
> lemons today, or what? Explain first how even "good" rock and roll is
> about Truth, and then - as a further exercise for your obviously
> atrophying neurons - explain precisely what "Truth" is.
"Truth" is obviously a debatable concept.
I'm listening to Jerry Garcia on "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue.".
It's as true as a human son of a bitch can get--- in my opinion.
I feel it from my bones to my liver--- and Dostoyevsky feels no pain.
Perhaps I am in another world? If so, gladly.
--
"God Smiles/Sleepy Lizard Girl" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/26000/26881/preview/Irony_Waves_-_Track__5.mp3
"Greybeard Cavalier" [0x0000/Fowler/Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/26000/26663/preview/Track__1.mp3
Dale Houstman
Will Dockery wrote:
>
> Dale Houstman wrote:
>
>>Good explication there, Will. Are you running your genius machine on
>>lemons today, or what? Explain first how even "good" rock and roll is
>>about Truth, and then - as a further exercise for your obviously
>>atrophying neurons - explain precisely what "Truth" is.
>
>
> "Truth" is obviously a debatable concept.
Well, then attempt to debate what it is. That's what is being asked of
you. If you claim that rock and roll expresses the Truth, then it is
reasonable to assume that you have some inkling of what that Truth might
consist of.
>
> I'm listening to Jerry Garcia on "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue.".
>
> It's as true as a human son of a bitch can get--- in my opinion.
>
> I feel it from my bones to my liver--- and Dostoyevsky feels no pain.
>
> Perhaps I am in another world? If so, gladly.
I'm not concerned whether you're in "another world" and it isn't a
unique position: there are as many "worlds" as there are people. But
when you express a blanket statement (like rock and roll expressing the
Truth) then it sort of falls upon you to give an explanation, and not
just an anecdotal example. "Baby Blue" is a good song, no doubt. But
that song doesn't define "rock and roll." If it's simply a matter of you
saying that all vlaid artistic expressions partake of the Truth, it
almost amounts to a tautological statement: not worth making in the
first place really. In fact, whatever "Truth" might be (and you say it
is debatable, so you should be capable of debating it, rather than
simply hiding behind a mere singular example) it strikes me that
everything in the universe expresses it in some way. Or nothing does.
But - at any rate - your grand statement that "rock and roll expresses
Truth" is unsupportable - as a worthy intelligent statement - from every
angle. It is both too specific and too vague. Worthless in other words.
And you also say that "good" rock and roll expresses "Truth": this only
furthers the pointless vagueness. For what is "good"? I suppose it could
be said that "good" rock and roll is "True" rock and roll? But is that
supposed to be clarifying, or merely another way of avoiding saying
anything at all, lest you be called upon to discuss it?
dmh
>
Will Dockery
Fred Hall wrote:
> On 5 Jun 2005 23:15:15 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> >Dale Houstman wrote:
> >>
> >> Good explication there, Will. Are you running your genius machine on
> >> lemons today, or what? Explain first how even "good" rock and roll is
> >> about Truth, and then - as a further exercise for your obviously
> >> atrophying neurons - explain precisely what "Truth" is.
> >
> >"Truth" is obviously a debatable concept.
> >
> >I'm listening to Jerry Garcia on "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue.".
>
> Never heard that version. What album, er, uh, CD is that on?
"Masked & Anonymous" soundtrack... Jerry's doing "Senor" now.
> >It's as true as a human son of a bitch can get--- in my opinion.
> >
> >I feel it from my bones to my liver--- and Dostoyevsky feels no pain.
> >
> >Perhaps I am in another world? If so, gladly.
>
> Got a good buzz going, eh?
So so. Could be better, damn sure could be worse.
I've a joint of skunk bud that could certainly kick it up, but might
slow my typing...
Will Dockery
Dale Houstman wrote:
So, you agree?
Will Dockery
Fred Hall wrote:
> On 5 Jun 2005 23:43:52 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> >> >Dale Houstman wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Good explication there, Will. Are you running your genius machine on
> >> >> lemons today, or what? Explain first how even "good" rock and roll is
> >> >> about Truth, and then - as a further exercise for your obviously
> >> >> atrophying neurons - explain precisely what "Truth" is.
> >> >
> >> >"Truth" is obviously a debatable concept.
> >> >
> >> >I'm listening to Jerry Garcia on "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue.".
> >>
> >> Never heard that version. What album, er, uh, CD is that on?
> >
> >"Masked & Anonymous" soundtrack... Jerry's doing "Senor" now.
>
> I am so out of touch these days.
I wish you weren't:
<http://www.sonyclassics.com/masked/>
> >> >It's as true as a human son of a bitch can get--- in my opinion.
> >> >
> >> >I feel it from my bones to my liver--- and Dostoyevsky feels no pain.
> >> >
> >> >Perhaps I am in another world? If so, gladly.
> >>
> >> Got a good buzz going, eh?
> >
> >So so. Could be better, damn sure could be worse.
> >
> >I've a joint of skunk bud that could certainly kick it up, but might
> >slow my typing...
>
> Wouldn't want that, now would we?
I have no idea.
Dale Houstman
Fred Hall wrote:
> You know better than to ask Will to answer anything complicated at
> this time of night/morning. Unfair advantage.
>
Will couldn't respond adequately to this (or distinguish a burp from a
giraffe hide) at high noon.
Will Dockery
Dale Houstman wrote:
I agree. I'm just about too fucked up at this point to type this
sentence... but--- guess what?
I did it.
And perhaps even a couple more...
Will Dockery
Fred Hall wrote:
> >> On 5 Jun 2005 23:43:52 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> >> >> >Dale Houstman wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Good explication there, Will. Are you running your genius machine on
> >> >> >> lemons today, or what? Explain first how even "good" rock and roll is
> >> >> >> about Truth, and then - as a further exercise for your obviously
> >> >> >> atrophying neurons - explain precisely what "Truth" is.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Truth" is obviously a debatable concept.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I'm listening to Jerry Garcia on "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue.".
> >> >>
> >> >> Never heard that version. What album, er, uh, CD is that on?
> >> >
> >> >"Masked & Anonymous" soundtrack... Jerry's doing "Senor" now.
> >>
> >> I am so out of touch these days.
> >
> >I wish you weren't:
> >
> ><http://www.sonyclassics.com/masked/>
>
> Hey, thanks!
Rent the DVD--- I tried to get Dale Houstman to over a year ago.
> >> >> >It's as true as a human son of a bitch can get--- in my opinion.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I feel it from my bones to my liver--- and Dostoyevsky feels no pain.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Perhaps I am in another world? If so, gladly.
> >> >>
> >> >> Got a good buzz going, eh?
> >> >
> >> >So so. Could be better, damn sure could be worse.
> >> >
> >> >I've a joint of skunk bud that could certainly kick it up, but might
> >> >slow my typing...
> >>
> >> Wouldn't want that, now would we?
> >
> >I have no idea.
>
> A buzz does tend to make one think that way.
I haven't smoked the skunk-bud joint yet, either.
*Then* I will hear the truth in rock-n-roll.
Will Dockery
Fred Hall wrote:
> Amazing, isn't it?
Depends on how you want to see it--- I dig amazing, and will not settle
for less.