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Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 2:12:59 AM11/17/12
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"Hieronymous707", wrote:
On Nov 13, 1:14 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> > I simply asked you why you like the way she writes. That's all. You
>
> > still haven't answered. Why?
>
> I like her style, I like the way she uses images and phrasing, and I like
> the way she puts it all together into a poem.
>
> Like I said... mighty fine.
>
> > You are ice and fire,
> > The touch of you burns my hands like snow.
> > You are cold and flame.
> > You are the crimson of amaryllis,
> > The silver of moon-touched magnolias.
> > When I am with you,
> > My heart is a frozen pond
> > Gleaming with agitated torches.
>
> -Amy Lowell
>
> --
> Over You / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars
http://youtu.be/4rvCp_xzWH8
Can you be any more generic and less specific? Why do you make asking
you what you think about a poem feel like pulling teeth? Shouldn't it
be something you like to do, especially here?
*** Well, yes I do, when I can... but I have the feeling you know exactly
how difficult this poem is to /pin down/, judging from the completely
minimalist commentary you yourself have made on the poem, besides the fact
that it was you who posted it, and again, without comment.
--
Poetry and music of Will Dockery:
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Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 11:09:14 AM11/17/12
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"Hieronymous707" <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> You'll have to explain that one. I recognize the names, but don't get your
> association of them. Lowell was a lesbo. Liz isn't. Both make my list of
> Womenists. I got lost at Robert Frost.
Getting there... I made it to the Liz Phair YouTube collection, anyhow...
http://youtu.be/t2akK4tYSwY
Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 11:39:49 AM11/17/12
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Hieronymous707 wrote:
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> Of course I could be wrong.
Wow, you think?
>
> Of course I could be wrong.
Wow, you think?
Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 12:05:30 PM11/17/12
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Hieronymous707 wrote:
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> Odd. I really, really thought I'd expressed my opinion and commented on
> both the poem and Ms. Lowell succinctly, and with remarkable specificity.
> Sorry. My bad.
You did okay, but then again I think I did okay, also.
Go figure.
Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 12:10:48 PM11/17/12
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Hieronymous707
Nov 17, 2012, 12:53:46 PM11/17/12
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On Nov 17, 12:17 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> > Odd. I really, really thought I'd expressed my opinion and commented on
> > both the poem and Ms. Lowell succinctly, and with remarkable specificity.
> > Sorry. My bad.
>
> You did okay, but then again I think I did okay, also.
>
> Go figure.
Okay is just okay. I figure I'm okay you're okay. Everything's okay
> Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> > Odd. I really, really thought I'd expressed my opinion and commented on
> > both the poem and Ms. Lowell succinctly, and with remarkable specificity.
> > Sorry. My bad.
>
> You did okay, but then again I think I did okay, also.
>
> Go figure.
here. I figure my kind of okay is succinctly specific, as opposed to
your kind of okay which is more specifically general and non-specific.
That's how we know which is which so other people don't get us
confused. I hate when that happens.
Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 12:57:50 PM11/17/12
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Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> You'll have to explain that one. I recognize the names, but don't get your
> association of them. Lowell was a lesbo.
> Liz isn't. Both make my list of Womenists. I got lost at Robert Frost.
I've a hunch one poet influenced the other.
>
> You'll have to explain that one. I recognize the names, but don't get your
> association of them. Lowell was a lesbo.
> Liz isn't. Both make my list of Womenists. I got lost at Robert Frost.
I may not have time to explain that today, but it seems pretty obvious to
me.
Hieronymous707
Nov 17, 2012, 1:01:28 PM11/17/12
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On Nov 17, 12:58 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I may not have time to explain that today
LOL. So what else is new?
> I may not have time to explain that today
Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 1:08:30 PM11/17/12
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On Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:53:47 PM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
People usually mistake me for P.D. Wilson when we're both online, so I can
relate.
But, yeah... my kind of Okay is wide ranging and has depth, takes some time
to get to the heart of the matter, where your kind of Okay is more of the
one-liner, superficial toss off, and I can see how those two approaches can
get easily confused by the Casual Reader.
As the kids say "It all be good, man."
relate.
But, yeah... my kind of Okay is wide ranging and has depth, takes some time
to get to the heart of the matter, where your kind of Okay is more of the
one-liner, superficial toss off, and I can see how those two approaches can
get easily confused by the Casual Reader.
As the kids say "It all be good, man."
Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 1:15:10 PM11/17/12
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On Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:01:29 PM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> On Nov 17, 12:58 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> > I may not have time to explain that today
>
> LOL. So what else is new?
A lot of things are new down this way!
>
> > I may not have time to explain that today
>
> LOL. So what else is new?
Hieronymous707
Nov 17, 2012, 1:16:22 PM11/17/12
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You clearly don't see clearly.
Hieronymous707
Nov 17, 2012, 1:21:06 PM11/17/12
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On Nov 17, 1:15 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:01:29 PM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> > On Nov 17, 12:58 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> > > I may not have time to explain that today
>
> > LOL. So what else is new?
>
> A lot of things are new down this way!
You don't have to explain if you don't have time. Same shit, different
> On Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:01:29 PM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> > On Nov 17, 12:58 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> > > I may not have time to explain that today
>
> > LOL. So what else is new?
>
> A lot of things are new down this way!
day.
Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 1:43:53 PM11/17/12
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Hieronymous707 wrote:
I'm often perplexed by all the things I point out here that you insist you
"don't understand".
> > People usually mistake me for P.D. Wilson when we're both online, so I
> > can
>
> > relate.
>
> >
>
> > But, yeah... my kind of Okay is wide ranging and has depth, takes some
> > time
>
> > to get to the heart of the matter, where your kind of Okay is more of
> > the
>
> > one-liner, superficial toss off, and I can see how those two approaches
> > can
>
> > get easily confused by the Casual Reader.
>
> >
>
> > As the kids say "It all be good, man."
>
> >
>
> > can
>
> > relate.
>
> >
>
> > But, yeah... my kind of Okay is wide ranging and has depth, takes some
> > time
>
> > to get to the heart of the matter, where your kind of Okay is more of
> > the
>
> > one-liner, superficial toss off, and I can see how those two approaches
> > can
>
> > get easily confused by the Casual Reader.
>
> >
>
> > As the kids say "It all be good, man."
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > Over You / Will Dockery & The Shadowville
> > All-Stars:http://youtu.be/4rvCp_xzWH8
>
>
>
>
> > Over You / Will Dockery & The Shadowville
> > All-Stars:http://youtu.be/4rvCp_xzWH8
>
>
>
> You see what you want to see.
>
> You clearly don't see clearly.
Odd that I percieve you in almost the same way, isn't it, Corey?
>
> You clearly don't see clearly.
I'm often perplexed by all the things I point out here that you insist you
"don't understand".
Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 2:01:36 PM11/17/12
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"ggamble" bitter-...@regretsofnam.net wrote in message
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> > I've
>
> > I
>
> > me.
Tell me, Oh Gassy One, how would /you/ refer to yourself in the first
person?
I'm waiting... heh.
Will Dockery
Nov 17, 2012, 2:08:41 PM11/17/12
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"Hieronymous707" <hirunny...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 17, 1:15 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> On Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:01:29 PM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> > On Nov 17, 12:58 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> > > I may not have time to explain that today
>
> > LOL. So what else is new?
>
> A lot of things are new down this way!
You don't have to explain if you don't have time. Same shit, different
day.
*** I've explained a lot, and you're following me so far, right?
> On Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:01:29 PM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> > On Nov 17, 12:58 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> > > I may not have time to explain that today
>
> > LOL. So what else is new?
>
> A lot of things are new down this way!
You don't have to explain if you don't have time. Same shit, different
day.
Does the Amy Lowell is Liz Phair to Robert Frost's Rolling Stones analogy
work for you yet?
Think early days of Liz, that might help... I became a fans as soon as
possible, and that analogy was one thing that led me to her, besides the
fact that she was white hot cool with a smouldering center, crazy sexy cool.
More later, finally... it has taken me /twenty years/ to find time to write
about Liz Phair, and I loved every second of the wait.
Will Dockery
Nov 18, 2012, 10:00:48 PM11/18/12
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> I don't know what that means exactly, no point of reference. It's nice to
> know that you like something, but what
> makes reading you interesting is why you like or dislike something. One
> liner replies are frustrating for me when they
> don't sufficiently convey the intent of the author. I know you. I like
> you. I get frustrated reading you. That's just me.
Sorry about that... jsut my working method sometimes...
I'll nail this one yet, though, perhaps tonight.
--
Twilight Girl / Will Dockery & Henry Conley:
http://youtu.be/BYETTK16jQI
> I don't know what that means exactly, no point of reference. It's nice to
> know that you like something, but what
> makes reading you interesting is why you like or dislike something. One
> liner replies are frustrating for me when they
> don't sufficiently convey the intent of the author. I know you. I like
> you. I get frustrated reading you. That's just me.
Sorry about that... jsut my working method sometimes...
I'll nail this one yet, though, perhaps tonight.
--
Twilight Girl / Will Dockery & Henry Conley:
http://youtu.be/BYETTK16jQI
Will Dockery
Nov 18, 2012, 11:46:50 PM11/18/12
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then soon I'll get nack to Amy and Robert, see if yo follow me to this
point, okay:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/he-said-she-said-how-liz-phair-took-the-rolling-stones-to-guyville-20100521
"...Phair claimed that "Exile in Guyville" was designed as a song-by-song
"answer" or "response" to the Rolling Stones' decadent 1972 epic, "Exile on
Main Street."..."
I see a similar possibilty happening between Amy's "Opal" and Frost's "Fire
and Ice"... more later.
--
Music & Poetry of Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
> You'll have to explain that one. I recognize the names, but don't get your
> association of them. Lowell was a lesbo.
> Liz isn't. Both make my list of Womenists. I got lost at Robert Frost.
Here's a quick bit on the relationship between Liz Phair and The Stones, and
> association of them. Lowell was a lesbo.
> Liz isn't. Both make my list of Womenists. I got lost at Robert Frost.
then soon I'll get nack to Amy and Robert, see if yo follow me to this
point, okay:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/he-said-she-said-how-liz-phair-took-the-rolling-stones-to-guyville-20100521
"...Phair claimed that "Exile in Guyville" was designed as a song-by-song
"answer" or "response" to the Rolling Stones' decadent 1972 epic, "Exile on
Main Street."..."
I see a similar possibilty happening between Amy's "Opal" and Frost's "Fire
and Ice"... more later.
--
Music & Poetry of Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
Will Dockery
Nov 19, 2012, 12:14:15 AM11/19/12
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Will Dockery
Nov 19, 2012, 12:29:16 AM11/19/12
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"Hieronymous707" wrote:
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> LOL. So what else is new?
early 1990s:
http://pitchfork.com/news/39441-liz-phair-new-album-lost-me-my-management-and-my-record-deal/
"But here is the thing you need to know about these songs and the ones
coming next: These are all me. Love them, or hate them, but don't mistake
them for anything other than an entirely personal,
un-tethered-from-the-machine, free for all view of the world, refracted
through my own crazy lens. This is my journey. I'll keep sending you
postcards." -Liz Phair
I do love me some Liz.
Will Dockery
Nov 21, 2012, 1:57:04 AM11/21/12
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>
> What do you like about it?
The fire, the ice, the pure white opal glimmering with pearl jam, and in
general I just dig her style.
--
Gone Too Far / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/11596860-gone-too-far--dockery-mallard-snipe
>
> What do you like about it?
The fire, the ice, the pure white opal glimmering with pearl jam, and in
general I just dig her style.
--
Gone Too Far / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/11596860-gone-too-far--dockery-mallard-snipe
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