the father of hank williams jr.
j r sherman
the father of hank williams jr.
-------------------------------------------------
for those times
when ten thousands trucks
and ten thousand farmers
hummed their radios
every night
from new orleans
to the end of hillsdale michigan.
in north carolina they built a sign
made of wood
wishing him well
when he went off to be with jesus
until the sign fell down in a storm
an old man cried for awhile
in montgomery, alabama,
as they buried the only voice
any of them ever had.
epics have always said
that the gods die
at the close of an era
alone and forsaken
mocked by the sinners
who would take their name,
in vain son's can spend a lifetime
listening to a father's music
and hear
the times of a ten thousand trucks
and ten thousand farmers crying
for all that is now gone
-------------------------------------------
i'd like to rest my heavy head tonight
on a bed of california stars
i'd like to lay my weary bones tonight
on a bed of california stars
they hang like grapes on vines that shine
and warm the lovers glass like friendly wine
so, i'd give this world
just to dream a dream with you
on our bed of california stars
Woody Guthrie
-------------------------------------------
wxnw...@cpros.com
well-turned country- western well-turned phrase and sadly-reflective
sentimental ballad refrain pome. good damn job. two comment suggestions; in
last stanza, sons is not possessive (not son's); and i'm not sure about "a"
ten thousand trucks; i sorta know yer referin to the TIME of ten thousand
trucks, it would seem that that "a" hangin so conspicuous-like in front of
that dang big number is a pretty obvious clue its deliberate, and it ain't
that it don't scan, cuz it does, it just made me question if you, like, knew
what you were doin'; i conclude (of course!)you know a thing or two. like i
gotta clue myself. oh, and yeah, have you figgered how to make this portry
thing pay? i know, the writing and the sharing is the pome's joyous reward
and all that, jus' curious is all. regards skye
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j r sherman
>
>hey j r; really very nice; i'm a soft-touch sucker for a down-home
>well-turned country- western well-turned phrase and sadly-reflective
>sentimental ballad refrain pome.
okay.
>good damn job.
thank you.
>two comment suggestions; in
>last stanza, sons is not possessive (not son's); and i'm not sure about "a"
>ten thousand trucks; i sorta know yer referin to the TIME of ten thousand
>trucks, it would seem that that "a" hangin so conspicuous-like in front of
>that dang big number is a pretty obvious clue its deliberate, and it ain't
>that it don't scan, cuz it does, it just made me question if you, like, knew
>what you were doin';
they were typos, it was late(for me), you are correct. i will change them.
>i conclude (of course!)you know a thing or two.
not enough to make my corrects it would seem.
>like i
>gotta clue myself. oh, and yeah, have you figgered how to make this portry
>thing pay?
you're kidding, right?
>i know, the writing and the sharing is the pome's joyous reward
>and all that,
nope, i use it to pick up chicks: "he's so deep and sensitive, even when he's
cuffing us to the bedpost". heh.
>jus' curious is all. regards skye
of course.
be good,
j r sherman
Robert OR Renay
:In article <7bnqsg$bdt$1...@its.hooked.net>,
: jr...@wenet.net (j r sherman ) wrote:
:> the father of hank williams jr.
-------------------------------------------------
<I have to snip to satisfy the server god>
:> until the sign fell down in a storm
*****gave me a chill. very post-prophetic.
makes me think of the way the music is
produced now for the dumbed-down masses.
:> as they buried the only voice
:> any of them ever had.
*****a truly great line!
:> and ten thousand farmers crying
:> for all that is now gone
*****and everyone since trying to get it back.
*****yay! damn fine work. sorry about the snippage.
"well it's midnight in Montogmery....dad, I'm doing a
Monday Night Football commercial..."
Renay
j r sherman
says...
>
>j r sherman (jr...@wenet.net) wrote:
>
>|i hope i die before i get old.
>
>live fast, die young, and have all the hot-looking chicks you
>know turn up to the funeral while they're still hot-looking.
>
>stuart
they already did show up all at the same time.....
the problem was i was still alive...
>--
>-- stuart yeates -- phd student -- waikato university --
>-- "Stir up the Athenian youth to merriments; / Awake the pert --
>-- and nimble spirit of mirth;" -- MidSummer Night's Dream --
stuart, nothing personal, but where the hell is waikato university?
love and kisses,
j r sherman
j r sherman
>:
>:In article <7bnqsg$bdt$1...@its.hooked.net>,
>: jr...@wenet.net (j r sherman ) wrote:
>:> the father of hank williams jr.
> -------------------------------------------------
><I have to snip to satisfy the server god>
>:> until the sign fell down in a storm
>*****gave me a chill. very post-prophetic.
>makes me think of the way the music is
>produced now for the dumbed-down masses.
country music today sucks. this can't even be argued. corporate
america bought it 14 years ago when CBS records fired Johhny Cash,
just thrown away, like they throw away 50 year old men and women
who've worked the assembly line for 30 years but have suddenly become
figures on a spreadsheet somewhere. country music is a skanked out
whore who sold it's soul for something as worthless as money. in 25
years all of them will have forgotten Hank, and Johnny, and Conway and
Red Sovine, and Loretta Lynn, and Donna Fargo and Willie Nelson and
Merle Haggard, like they've forgetton Roy Acuff and Jimmy Rogers and
the Carter Family. ancient and as forgotten as the Egyptians. who will
they remember? Billy Ray Cyrus. i hope i'm dead by then.
>:> as they buried the only voice
>:> any of them ever had.
>*****a truly great line!
once saw 6 macho truckdrivers stop their bragging about women and
driving to listen to "I Saw The Light", which was played on the radio
while they were waiting to put their snow chains on. for many of that
generation he was the only voice they ever had.
>:> and ten thousand farmers crying
>:> for all that is now gone
>*****and everyone since trying to get it back.
last september as i was driving north to Oregon, on I-5, just north of
Yreka(some of ya might know the route) i saw a truckdriver driving a
1975 white freight-liner, speaking on a cellular phone. he was wearing
a polo shirt.
it was like watching your father grow old and die. i wanted to throw
up.
>*****yay! damn fine work. sorry about the snippage.
thanks. i should have looked for the typos first. ;)
>"well it's midnight in Montogmery....dad, I'm doing a
>Monday Night Football commercial..."
a truckdriver with a mother fucking cellular phone. went and saw
Saving Private Ryan again. a teenage boy and his date laughed during
the Omaha Beach scene when the guy who had his arm blown off picked it
up and headed in-land.
"yeah, like that really happened!" the young man smirked out loud.
i hope i die before i get old.
love and kisses,
j r sherman
j r sherman
do you guys have electricity? (not a stupid question, you could be on a wireless
modem laptop with a battery you have to get re-charged somewhere else)
>alternatively ...
>
>1) get a globe.
heh.
>2) find the pacific ocean (it's the biggest bit of water---should be
> in blue).
funny. i know where the Pacific is, i can see it from the top of my apartment
building.
>3) find a couple of little islands down the bottom called 'new
> zealand' (may be coloured to indicate membership in the
> british commonwealth, may be collected to indicate we're
> an independant country)
at the edge of the world.
>4) if it's a big globe 'auckland' (our biggest population centre)
> may be marked.
funny. i once dated a woman from auckland. she said you guys have only like two
TV stations?
>5) we're about 2 hours drive south of auckland in a city called
> hamilton. it's a big dairying area (think sub-tropical and
> wet).
i hear Hamilton is like the Brighton of the area south of auckland?
at least it's not france. that is a point of in your favor.
love and kisses,
j r sherman
p.s. does your university have like alumni t-shirts?
Robert OR Renay
j r sherman wrote in message <7bq6dn$dvq$1...@its.hooked.net>...
:country music today sucks. this can't even be argued. corporate
america bought it 14 years ago when CBS records fired Johhny Cash,
just thrown away, like they throw away 50 year old men and women
who've worked the assembly line for 30 years but have suddenly become
figures on a spreadsheet somewhere. country music is a skanked out
whore who sold it's soul for something as worthless as money. in 25
years all of them will have forgotten Hank, and Johnny, and Conway and
Red Sovine, and Loretta Lynn, and Donna Fargo and Willie Nelson and
Merle Haggard, like they've forgetton Roy Acuff and Jimmy Rogers and
the Carter Family. ancient and as forgotten as the Egyptians. who will
they remember? Billy Ray Cyrus. i hope i'm dead by then.
*****blech! I blame John Travolta for starting it. (at least there wasn't
much line dancing in Urban Cowboy). there've been a few performers
in the last ten years (very damn few) who almost understood the point.
I remember a monster hit song Reba McIntyre had w/a song titled
"Fancy" problem was, nobody knew the song was Bobbie Gentry's
and had been a grammy winner 20 years earlier. Dwight had himself
in serious hot water when he first signed w/a major label cuz he said
about the same thing you've said up there. pissed off the suits. (then
he sold out and started making substandard, mainstream garbage
music. oh well, I still like his butt!)
*****here's my brief list of not-to-be-forgottens
Ray Price (For the Good Times...is there a better song to get drunk to?)
Jeanne Pruett (Satin Sheets kicks ass)
Sammi Smith (one of the truly great voices ever. she did Help Me Make it through the Night
before even Willie Nelson)
Sonny James
Charlie Rich (the beginning of lounge country, but still. c'mon "When We Get Behind Closed
Doors makes ya wanna take off some clothes!)
Jeannie C. Rielley (I can forgive her for Harper Valley PTA cuz she then recorded Manhattan, Kansas)
gawd, this list isn't so brief, is it. Jerry Jeff Walker (Up Against the Wall, Redneck Mother is too a
country song!)
Tom T. Hall!!!! (ignore the silly songs and he's a genius)
speaking of geniuses...Kris Kristofferson. as a songwriter, he's untouchable.
okay, okay, I'm stopping. I've gone beyond brief. wait, Patti Page, PATSY CLINE!
:once saw 6 macho truckdrivers stop their bragging about women and
:driving to listen to "I Saw The Light", which was played on the radio
:while they were waiting to put their snow chains on. for many of that
:generation he was the only voice they ever had.
*****I spend a lot of time on the road. you know what you can buy in
truckstops now? Shania Twain. puh-leeeeeze. which Macy's perfume
counter did they dig *her* out from under?
<...>
:i hope i die before i get old.
*****I'm gonna have you cremated and sprinkled over a couple of
the Hee-Haw girls. heh.
Renay
Jeannekhan
Remember well much of what you say.
Something awful happened along the
way--it gags me with a spoon when
I hear non-music manufactured by
the car load for those who are tone
deaf and drowning in psuedo-blue grass.
Sounds like white girls yelling "girlfriend"
unnatural, forced and out of bounds.
Pre-teens who "hung out" at radio stations back in Boston included this then
book
worm whose friends wanted her to hear
the masters inaccessible to those who could not get into the local clubs and
bars to hear them play. Grizzled veterans--musicians-
with songs over sounds to cry by. Hillbilly
Ranch comes to mind--never got old enough to enter, but my friends showed me
the inside from the outside. Such good stuff--miss it.
Jeanne
>Subject: Re: the father of hank williams jr.
>From: jr...@wenet.net (j r sherman )
>Date: 3/5/99 7:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <7bq6dn$dvq$1...@its.hooked.net>
>
>"Robert OR Renay" <stj...@ricochet.net> wrote:
>
>>:
>>:In article <7bnqsg$bdt$1...@its.hooked.net>,
>>: jr...@wenet.net (j r sherman ) wrote:
>
>>:> the father of hank williams jr.
>> -------------------------------------------------
>
>
>><I have to snip to satisfy the server god>
>
>>:> until the sign fell down in a storm
>
>>*****gave me a chill. very post-prophetic.
>>makes me think of the way the music is
>>produced now for the dumbed-down masses.
>
>country music today sucks. this can't even be argued. corporate
>america bought it 14 years ago when CBS records fired Johhny Cash,
>just thrown away, like they throw away 50 year old men and women
>who've worked the assembly line for 30 years but have suddenly become
>figures on a spreadsheet somewhere. country music is a skanked out
>whore who sold it's soul for something as worthless as money. in 25
>years all of them will have forgotten Hank, and Johnny, and Conway and
>Red Sovine, and Loretta Lynn, and Donna Fargo and Willie Nelson and
>Merle Haggard, like they've forgetton Roy Acuff and Jimmy Rogers and
>the Carter Family. ancient and as forgotten as the Egyptians. who will
>they remember? Billy Ray Cyrus. i hope i'm dead by then.
>
>>:> as they buried the only voice
>>:> any of them ever had.
>
>>*****a truly great line!
>
>once saw 6 macho truckdrivers stop their bragging about women and
>driving to listen to "I Saw The Light", which was played on the radio
>while they were waiting to put their snow chains on. for many of that
>generation he was the only voice they ever had.
>
>>:> and ten thousand farmers crying
>>:> for all that is now gone
>
>
>>*****and everyone since trying to get it back.
>
>last september as i was driving north to Oregon, on I-5, just north of
>Yreka(some of ya might know the route) i saw a truckdriver driving a
>1975 white freight-liner, speaking on a cellular phone. he was wearing
>a polo shirt.
>
>it was like watching your father grow old and die. i wanted to throw
>up.
>
>
>>*****yay! damn fine work. sorry about the snippage.
>
>thanks. i should have looked for the typos first. ;)
>
>>"well it's midnight in Montogmery....dad, I'm doing a
>>Monday Night Football commercial..."
>
>a truckdriver with a mother fucking cellular phone. went and saw
>Saving Private Ryan again. a teenage boy and his date laughed during
>the Omaha Beach scene when the guy who had his arm blown off picked it
>up and headed in-land.
>
>"yeah, like that really happened!" the young man smirked out loud.
>
>i hope i die before i get old.
>
>love and kisses,
>
>j r sherman
>
>
>-------------------------------------------
>i'd like to rest my heavy head tonight
>on a bed of california stars
>i'd like to lay my weary bones tonight
>on a bed of california stars
>they hang like grapes on vines that shine
>and warm the lovers glass like friendly wine
>so, i'd give this world
>just to dream a dream with you
>on our bed of california stars
>
> Woody Guthrie
>
>-------------------------------------------
>Subject: Re: the father of hank williams jr.
>From: jr...@wenet.net (j r sherman )
>Date: 3/5/99 7:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <7bq6dn$dvq$1...@its.hooked.net>
>
>"Robert OR Renay" <stj...@ricochet.net> wrote:
>
>>:
>>:In article <7bnqsg$bdt$1...@its.hooked.net>,
>>: jr...@wenet.net (j r sherman ) wrote:
>
>>:> the father of hank williams jr.
>> -------------------------------------------------
>
>
>><I have to snip to satisfy the server god>
>
>>:> until the sign fell down in a storm
>
>>*****gave me a chill. very post-prophetic.
>>makes me think of the way the music is
>>produced now for the dumbed-down masses.
>
>country music today sucks. this can't even be argued. corporate
>america bought it 14 years ago when CBS records fired Johhny Cash,
>just thrown away, like they throw away 50 year old men and women
>who've worked the assembly line for 30 years but have suddenly become
>figures on a spreadsheet somewhere. country music is a skanked out
>whore who sold it's soul for something as worthless as money. in 25
>years all of them will have forgotten Hank, and Johnny, and Conway and
>Red Sovine, and Loretta Lynn, and Donna Fargo and Willie Nelson and
>Merle Haggard, like they've forgetton Roy Acuff and Jimmy Rogers and
>the Carter Family. ancient and as forgotten as the Egyptians. who will
>they remember? Billy Ray Cyrus. i hope i'm dead by then.
>
>>:> as they buried the only voice
>>:> any of them ever had.
>
>>*****a truly great line!
>
>once saw 6 macho truckdrivers stop their bragging about women and
>driving to listen to "I Saw The Light", which was played on the radio
>while they were waiting to put their snow chains on. for many of that
>generation he was the only voice they ever had.
>
>>:> and ten thousand farmers crying
>>:> for all that is now gone
>
>
>>*****and everyone since trying to get it back.
>
>last september as i was driving north to Oregon, on I-5, just north of
>Yreka(some of ya might know the route) i saw a truckdriver driving a
>1975 white freight-liner, speaking on a cellular phone. he was wearing
>a polo shirt.
>
>it was like watching your father grow old and die. i wanted to throw
>up.
>
>
>>*****yay! damn fine work. sorry about the snippage.
>
>thanks. i should have looked for the typos first. ;)
>
>>"well it's midnight in Montogmery....dad, I'm doing a
>>Monday Night Football commercial..."
>
>a truckdriver with a mother fucking cellular phone. went and saw
>Saving Private Ryan again. a teenage boy and his date laughed during
>the Omaha Beach scene when the guy who had his arm blown off picked it
>up and headed in-land.
>
>"yeah, like that really happened!" the young man smirked out loud.
>
>i hope i die before i get old.
>
>love and kisses,
>
>j r sherman
>
>
Jeannekhan
Your list reminds me of why I loved the music.
Nowadays nothing I hear compares--worried
that my mind was closed to the new therein.
Feel now that new ain't all it's cracked up to be. I follow none of them except
Reba and Dwight who have some of the juice from another time. Thought I
was out of touch--not a bad way to be when
present sallies call forth no sympathy...;>
Acuff, Price et al live on in memory even of this mozart muser!
Jeanne
>Subject: Re: the father of hank williams jr.
>From: "Robert OR Renay" <stj...@ricochet.net>
>Date: 3/6/99 6:59 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <7brg8q$s6t$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net>
>
>
>j r sherman wrote in message <7bq6dn$dvq$1...@its.hooked.net>...
>:country music today sucks. this can't even be argued. corporate
>america bought it 14 years ago when CBS records fired Johhny Cash,
>just thrown away, like they throw away 50 year old men and women
>who've worked the assembly line for 30 years but have suddenly become
>figures on a spreadsheet somewhere. country music is a skanked out
>whore who sold it's soul for something as worthless as money. in 25
>years all of them will have forgotten Hank, and Johnny, and Conway and
>Red Sovine, and Loretta Lynn, and Donna Fargo and Willie Nelson and
>Merle Haggard, like they've forgetton Roy Acuff and Jimmy Rogers and
>the Carter Family. ancient and as forgotten as the Egyptians. who will
>they remember? Billy Ray Cyrus. i hope i'm dead by then.
>
>:once saw 6 macho truckdrivers stop their bragging about women and
>:driving to listen to "I Saw The Light", which was played on the radio
>:while they were waiting to put their snow chains on. for many of that
>:generation he was the only voice they ever had.
>
>*****I spend a lot of time on the road. you know what you can buy in
>truckstops now? Shania Twain. puh-leeeeeze. which Macy's perfume
>counter did they dig *her* out from under?
>
>
><...>
>
>:i hope i die before i get old.
Amanda Rachelle Warren
> j r sherman (jr...@wenet.net) wrote:
>
> |i hope i die before i get old.
>
> live fast, die young, and have all the hot-looking chicks you
> know turn up to the funeral while they're still hot-looking.
>
> stuart
Hey jr, isn't it a little late to be saying something like that?
If you say I can be beloved, I will come to your funeral in black leather.
No not really,
Amanda
>
> --
> -- stuart yeates -- phd student -- waikato university --
> -- "Stir up the Athenian youth to merriments; / Awake the pert --
> -- and nimble spirit of mirth;" -- MidSummer Night's Dream --
>
>
"The time has come" the walrus said,
"to talk of many things, of shoes,
and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages
and kings, and why the sea is boiling hot,
and whether pigs have wings."
L.Carroll
Robert OR Renay
Amanda Rachelle Warren wrote in message ...
:If you say I can be beloved, I will come to your funeral in black leather.
*****don't do it. you show up at a rap event in black leather
and someone will rant about it for years....
heh.
Renay
Jim Standish
> *****here's my brief list of not-to-be-forgottens
>
> Ray Price (For the Good Times...is there a better song to get drunk to?)
> Jeanne Pruett (Satin Sheets kicks ass) Sammi Smith (one of the truly great
> voices ever. she did Help Me Make it through the Night before even Willie
> Nelson)
> Sonny James
> Charlie Rich (the beginning of lounge country, but
> still. c'mon "When We Get Behind Closed Doors makes ya wanna take off
> some clothes!)
> Jeannie C. Rielley (I can forgive her for Harper Valley PTA
> cuz she then recorded Manhattan, Kansas) gawd, this list isn't so brief,
> is it.
> Jerry Jeff Walker (Up Against the Wall, Redneck Mother is too a
> country song!)
> Tom T. Hall!!!! (ignore the silly songs and he's a genius)
> speaking of geniuses...Kris Kristofferson. as a songwriter, he's
> untouchable.
> okay, okay, I'm stopping. I've gone beyond brief.
> wait, Patti Page, PATSY CLINE!
okay, here's a few off the top o' my old-but-gladly-not-yet-dead head:
Little Jimmy Dickens
Grandpa Jones
Hank Snow
Webb Pierce
Red Foley
Ernest Tubb
Marty Robbins
Sons of the Pioneers
Kitty Wells
Tanya Tucker
and, from back before bluegrass was a separate category...
well, you know who...
more recently:
Bobby Bare
Waylon Jennings & Jessie Coulter
Linda Ronstadt
Roseanne Cash
and yes, Dolly Parton at her (admittedly rare) best
oh, wait: Emmy Lou Emmy Lou Emmy Lou!!
and ... ta-da! ... as I've mentioned recently:
Terry Allen (now on Sugar Hill)
Die before you get old? Hey, age has its drawbacks, but as long as
there's still fun to be had, and a few more poems to write, I still
druther be old than dead. Life's short enuf; no sense wishing it
shorter. Just cuz ya gets a few years under yer belt, don't mean ya
gotsta let yer brain get ossified.
Best,
Jim
westx...@my-dejanews.com
expressed, sounds like some kinda elegant country-western pome/song/ballad
thing there fer some gifted or otherwise inspired poet (sic) to ponder and
assemble. that image of the six truck drivers pausing in their poseur
posturings to sit and really listen to the voice of struggle and hope and
plaintive recollections and blue-collar ballads of ie. I Saw the Light, some
kinda real metaphor there, a great opening image introduction to that new
perrenial classic country tune about connecting to yer roots and really being
who you are. country music (sic) has been madison-avenued into a
parody/synthetic washed-out wannabe ideal of down-home authenticity suitable
fer mounting and marketing back to the masses who bemoan the passing era of
believeable romantic-bard heroes even as they que in line like customers
hoping to be recognized as the real article themselves, and hoping to be
blessed by the self-conscious hand of some pop-mainstream mogul who pretends
to touch the hearts/hopes/minds and dreams of a generation told/preached and
conditioned what to buy, sheeesh. try to go to a modern "concert" performance
and say howdy-do to the star, you'll find yourself corralled away from the
great artist, not like real folk like Kitty Wells, genuine down-home people
w/o the pathetic posturings who will sit and get real personal, say howdy
back. today, real country music is found in places like new zealand, belgium
and germany. it can also be found in remote corners of this country, in funky
bars and truck-stop dives, jammed along with blue-collar workin-man R&B,
rural folk, deep-southern blues, back-holler bluegrass, and cross-culture
good-time playin and picken, like cajun music. but that's where the true
heart and soul of country has always been ennyway; i suppose what pisses me
off most is the music industry stole the concept of country as voice of the
werkin-man (and woman) and sold it back to em; they shouldn't call it
"country", they should call it "city". i want my country music back. nuff
sed, sorry to ramble on and on, but you know me, more ain't enuff. skye still
howlin'
In article <7brg8q$s6t$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net>,
"Robert OR Renay" <stj...@ricochet.net> wrote:
>
> j r sherman wrote in message <7bq6dn$dvq$1...@its.hooked.net>...
> :country music today sucks. this can't even be argued. corporate
> america bought it 14 years ago when CBS records fired Johhny Cash,
> just thrown away, like they throw away 50 year old men and women
> who've worked the assembly line for 30 years but have suddenly become
> figures on a spreadsheet somewhere. country music is a skanked out
> whore who sold it's soul for something as worthless as money. in 25
> years all of them will have forgotten Hank, and Johnny, and Conway and
> Red Sovine, and Loretta Lynn, and Donna Fargo and Willie Nelson and
> Merle Haggard, like they've forgetton Roy Acuff and Jimmy Rogers and
> the Carter Family. ancient and as forgotten as the Egyptians. who will
> they remember? Billy Ray Cyrus. i hope i'm dead by then.
>
> *****blech! I blame John Travolta for starting it. (at least there wasn't
> much line dancing in Urban Cowboy). there've been a few performers
> in the last ten years (very damn few) who almost understood the point.
> I remember a monster hit song Reba McIntyre had w/a song titled
> "Fancy" problem was, nobody knew the song was Bobbie Gentry's
> and had been a grammy winner 20 years earlier. Dwight had himself
> in serious hot water when he first signed w/a major label cuz he said
> about the same thing you've said up there. pissed off the suits. (then
> he sold out and started making substandard, mainstream garbage
> music. oh well, I still like his butt!)
>
> *****here's my brief list of not-to-be-forgottens
>
> Ray Price (For the Good Times...is there a better song to get drunk to?)
> Jeanne Pruett (Satin Sheets kicks ass)
> Sammi Smith (one of the truly great voices ever. she did Help Me Make it
through the Night
> before even Willie Nelson)
> Sonny James
> Charlie Rich (the beginning of lounge country, but still. c'mon "When We Get
Behind Closed
> Doors makes ya wanna take off some clothes!)
> Jeannie C. Rielley (I can forgive her for Harper Valley PTA cuz she then
recorded Manhattan, Kansas)
> gawd, this list isn't so brief, is it. Jerry Jeff Walker (Up Against the
Wall, Redneck Mother is too a
> country song!)
> Tom T. Hall!!!! (ignore the silly songs and he's a genius)
> speaking of geniuses...Kris Kristofferson. as a songwriter, he's untouchable.
> okay, okay, I'm stopping. I've gone beyond brief. wait, Patti Page, PATSY
CLINE!
>
> :once saw 6 macho truckdrivers stop their bragging about women and
> :driving to listen to "I Saw The Light", which was played on the radio
> :while they were waiting to put their snow chains on. for many of that
> :generation he was the only voice they ever had.
>
> *****I spend a lot of time on the road. you know what you can buy in
> truckstops now? Shania Twain. puh-leeeeeze. which Macy's perfume
> counter did they dig *her* out from under?
>
> <...>
>
> :i hope i die before i get old.
>
> *****I'm gonna have you cremated and sprinkled over a couple of
> the Hee-Haw girls. heh.
>
> Renay
>
>
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j r sherman
>Robert OR Renay <stj...@ricochet.net> wrote:
>> *****here's my brief list of not-to-be-forgottens
>>
>> Ray Price (For the Good Times...is there a better song to get drunk to?)
>> Jeanne Pruett (Satin Sheets kicks ass) Sammi Smith (one of the truly great
>> voices ever. she did Help Me Make it through the Night before even Willie
>> Nelson)
>> Sonny James
>> Charlie Rich (the beginning of lounge country, but
>> still. c'mon "When We Get Behind Closed Doors makes ya wanna take off
>> some clothes!)
>> Jeannie C. Rielley (I can forgive her for Harper Valley PTA
>> cuz she then recorded Manhattan, Kansas) gawd, this list isn't so brief,
>> is it.
>> Jerry Jeff Walker (Up Against the Wall, Redneck Mother is too a
>> country song!)
>> Tom T. Hall!!!! (ignore the silly songs and he's a genius)
>> speaking of geniuses...Kris Kristofferson. as a songwriter, he's
>> untouchable.
>> okay, okay, I'm stopping. I've gone beyond brief.
>> wait, Patti Page, PATSY CLINE!
>okay, here's a few off the top o' my old-but-gladly-not-yet-dead head:
>Little Jimmy Dickens
>Grandpa Jones
>Hank Snow
>Webb Pierce
>Red Foley
>Ernest Tubb
>Marty Robbins
>Sons of the Pioneers
>Kitty Wells
>Tanya Tucker
>and, from back before bluegrass was a separate category...
>well, you know who...
>more recently:
>Bobby Bare
>Waylon Jennings & Jessie Coulter
>Linda Ronstadt
>Roseanne Cash
>and yes, Dolly Parton at her (admittedly rare) best
>oh, wait: Emmy Lou Emmy Lou Emmy Lou!!
>and ... ta-da! ... as I've mentioned recently:
>Terry Allen (now on Sugar Hill)
no thanks james, i'll pass on terry. and most of the rest of the 80's
and 90's country. name one new "artist" in country music over the last
ten years fit to serve drinks to the list you mention above? none of
them. all of them blow dried-painted whores with no clue that they're
no better than the worse skanked out LA streetwalker, and even less
honest. they're giving blowjobs to Hugh Grant and don't even know it.
and rock is no better, it's just as dead as country. what's out there
to listen to now? it was interesting, i looked at a billboard chart
from the summer of 1969. in the top fifty you had the Beatles, the
Stones, the Who, the Kinks, Dylan, Neil Young, Aretha Franklin, Ike
and Tina, Sly and the Family Stone, The Band, The Doors, even Elvis,
old, fat, drugged Elvis, Sam and Dave appeared there, as did the best
of Otis Redding. these were artists selling many millions of records,
popular, making huge amounts of money for the companies they worked
for(in the case of Otis, he was already dead for two years). can any
band of the last five years even equal all those i mentoned above at
their worst? some one made me listen to this new band called
Everclear. this is what's presented as the finest of rock music today?
Beck? Toad the Wet Sprocket? Marilyn Manson and Trent Reznor doing
their bad impression of David Bowie?
christ, even new Rap(the music), trashed out junk made for white kids
to scare their parents with the big-ol-black-man.
is there any blues anymore? on occasion the grammys love to throw a
bone at John Lee Hooker, so that the music industry can claim they're
Mr. Black People.
with folk their was actually some hope. but the Battleship KorpAmerika
finally turned around and noticed folk, and we are given Jewel, Joan
Osborne, Alanis Morrisette and Sarah McLachlan as nice sweet "safe"
examples of "good folk", electricfied and mostly empty, as they
deparately try to forget the Indigo Girls, and Dar and Lucinda
Williams, Wild Strawberries, Shawn Colvin, soon to be buried and
forgotten in the haze of KorpAmerika wanting to make the legacy of
Woody Guthrie, Cisco Houston, and Phil Ochs, and Joan Baez just a
memory.
everything the corporation touches turns to shit. everything it does
is aimed at making sure the youth of the world keeps buying the shit
they've been convinced is what they "just have to have". their music
is lovely little shallow nothings created by lovely little shallow
nothings with no clue that they're no better than the oldest whore at
the Mustang Ranch in Nevada. no one takes new music seriously.
they built a sign for Hank Williams in north carolina when he died,
and it was run down by Billy Ray Cyrus in his brand new porsche. idiot
Billy paused for a moment, a stupid slack-jawed grin on his face,
saying "i wonder what the fuck that was?" then he sped off. he was in
a hurry, he had to perform his monkey act at some board meeting
somewhere. he didn't really mind, like all monkeys, he had no clue as
to what he was doing.
>Die before you get old? Hey, age has its drawbacks, but as long as
>there's still fun to be had, and a few more poems to write, I still
>druther be old than dead. Life's short enuf; no sense wishing it
>shorter. Just cuz ya gets a few years under yer belt, don't mean ya
>gotsta let yer brain get ossified.
not when you see a truckdriver talking on a cellular phone and wearing
a polo shirt. i wanted to see his fingernails. my old man still has
the stain of grease under his fingernails, even five years after he
retired.
Antti Luode
>>Die before you get old? Hey, age has its drawbacks, but as long as
>>there's still fun to be had, and a few more poems to write, I still
>>druther be old than dead. Life's short enuf; no sense wishing it
>>shorter. Just cuz ya gets a few years under yer belt, don't mean ya
>>gotsta let yer brain get ossified.
>
>not when you see a truckdriver talking on a cellular phone and wearing
>a polo shirt. i wanted to see his fingernails. my old man still has
>the stain of grease under his fingernails, even five years after he
>retired.
>
>
>j r sherman
Dont you know, the world has become digital. Its happening in the net
the singles date on a webpage. The music is spread as mp3:s, free.
The next woodstock is going to be online, far out, people popping pills
watching 3d scenery through shades. We are evolving as beings
away from our bodies, to trancedancing egoes pulsating through the
fiber as a laser light.
Your old man and mine, they dont want to touch, the machines
that changed they world, they are afraid because they can not
understand.
Its not just cold, plastic and metal, its a chariot of fucking fire,
oasis for thought that never was before, and if you want, you can
join the army of naysayers, screaming that fountain pen
wrote the best poems and keyboards klick to produce shit.
But you're all wrong.
The future will prove me right.
-
SLL
<antti...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>Its not just cold, plastic and metal, its a chariot of fucking fire,
>oasis for thought that never was before, and if you want, you can
>join the army of naysayers, screaming that fountain pen
>wrote the best poems and keyboards klick to produce shit.
I used to do all my writing long hand and key it in later. I thought
I couldn't write any other way. Now, I can't write without the klick,
klickklick, klick, and I ain't talkin about clicking a ballpoint pen.
'course, writing is subjective in my case. ;)
SLL (owns a cell phone, an electric iron, a car, a hair dryer, a
graphing calculator, a radio ... a ... etc...)
j r sherman
> >>there's still fun to be had, and a few more poems to write, I still
> >>druther be old than dead. Life's short enuf; no sense wishing it
> >>shorter. Just cuz ya gets a few years under yer belt, don't mean ya
> >>gotsta let yer brain get ossified.
> >
> >not when you see a truckdriver talking on a cellular phone and wearing
> >a polo shirt. i wanted to see his fingernails. my old man still has
> >the stain of grease under his fingernails, even five years after he
> >retired.
> >
> >
> >j r sherman
>
>the singles date on a webpage. The music is spread as mp3:s, free.
>The next woodstock is going to be online, far out, people popping pills
>watching 3d scenery through shades. We are evolving as beings
>away from our bodies, to trancedancing egoes pulsating through the
>fiber as a laser light.
bullshit antii, were being turned into Orwells fat and happy proles, taught to
buy shit we don't need "and as long as we're comfortable it feels like
freedom"(so i quote Billy Bragg).
no amount of technology is gonna replace the thrill of reality, no nice and safe
and sterile and shallow nothingness is gonna replace the danger of live human
experience. this will be the revolution of the 21st century, when human kind
finally realize that the ghost in the fucking machine is the banner page of
Amazon.com and renaming Fenway Park to KorporateWeaselLogo Field is a sin as
unspeakable as raping an 8 year old child. we're not evolving idiot, we're being
herded into the nightmare Tomorrowland Sobibor so we can keep making shit for
the stockholders. gotta pay off the stockholders fuckwad.
i would rather be crushed to death in the crazed and drugged crowd at Woodstock,
circa 1969, than live a long and shallow life with my 3d glasses, watching Ally
McBeal fuck me nasty just before bedtime. thanks, i'll pass on the future if you
don't mind.
>Your old man and mine, they dont want to touch, the machines
>that changed they world, they are afraid because they can not
>understand.
i don't know about your dad antii, but my dad uses the computer all the time.
once, when it broke down, and three of his sons who work with PC's for a living
couldn't figure out what the fuck was wrong with it, and reached for their
credit cards to buy him a new one, he just muttered his twangy midwestern
"bullshit" and lifted the hood of the machine and looked at it for awhile.
and somewhere it worked. we asked him what it was he did to get it to work.
"well, i banged that thing there(pointing in the general direction of the
machine) and pulled this thing out, and then put it back in again, sorta like a
starter on an old ford". and it worked. it still works. he plays his computer
games, and he writes his "letters"(what the fuck is email, he says) to the only
cousins he can stand, and goes to the US Weather Website every morning. when you
learn to plant hay before you can walk, you still check the weather every day.
he knows exactly what the fuck a computer is, it's an old ford you can check the
weather with.
>Its not just cold, plastic and metal,
it's a mother-fucking power saw with and attitude. it's a box of metal and
wires. it's a fucking tool, and that's all. it doesn't have a mind, it's a
fucking fountain pen with nifty fonts, would you get that through your thick
finnish skull?
>its a chariot of fucking fire,
>oasis for thought that never was before, and if you want, you can
>join the army of naysayers, screaming that fountain pen
>wrote the best poems and keyboards klick to produce shit.
great antii, bill gates will love your sorry ass. you can be a kapo at the
MSSobibor95.
>But you're all wrong.
>
>The future will prove me right.
no it won't. it's all gonna reinforce your own insecurities, you'll end up never
leaving the house. you can fuck ally mcbeal right in your own living room and
never have to talk to her. you can experience the "life" the company tells you
is life. you'll be the electronic 500 pound fat man who can't get out of his
bed, and feel no need to do so. your dreams will be Pepsi-Cola's, your
aspirations will be IBM's, your bride will be Revlon's, your god will be AOL's.
no thoughts will be your own Winston, you'll just sit away from the view screen
and think your rebelling against the system. good luck. your oasis is gonna have
four white sterile walls, but that's okay, your magic little box will daily tell
you that's the way "cool" people live.
me? i'm gonna sneak into the Warsaw Ghetto, and get hung by the German, thank
you, i prefer that to your electronic woodstock. at least the last thing that i
see will be real.
enjoy.
j r sherman
gga...@excite.com
>
>Mr. Sherman,
>>
>SLL (whose great grandmother was terrified of metric - the only place
>where USA lags behind the rest of the world!)
not quite.
gg
but i don't want to start in on that
Chris Keelan
> Mr. Sherman,
>
> You are too harsh, too wrong, some right, but mostly exaggerating old
> news. Your kind of attitude has been around against progress forever,
> foreva, forever! And yes, forever is an exaggerated term too.
>
> What you say has been said about television, automobiles, Dvorak,
> calculators, slide rules, you name it. Come on! It's in the history
> books, and what stock holder, greedy money grubber, slave keeper,
> crazy guy at the top hasn't profitted from progress? And if you don't
> like the word progress, how about inventions? Well, probably the
> slave owners, but you see must see the point!!
>
> Don't be so righteous. Tell me you don't own stock. Tell me you
> don't have a 401k, IRA then I'll forgive a little.
>
> Maybe I've been conditioned. I do get out. In fact, just rode my
> bike alongside the river. That was real (and so are sore muscles ;),
> but you know, I watch Rick Steve's travels in Europe; I read tons of
> books, National Geographic, and get to experience vicariously places
> I'm likely never to visit!
>
> And admit it. You talk porn here; tech. is great company at least, at
> the VERY least, until the real thing does come along! Let's hear it
> for electric sex! :)
>
> Lighten up, you. :) I mean, the 49ers are very real via CRT not like
> in the flesh, but what would you have instead? Radio? Newspapers?
> Messengers on horseback?
>
> SLL (whose great grandmother was terrified of metric - the only place
> where USA lags behind the rest of the world!)
Gotta agree with Sherrie here, j r. You sound a lot like my father. Maybe it's age.
The world has always been going to hell in a handbasket and "kids these days" have
never known "what music's really about". Nothing is ever as good as the "golden age"
but there are more reasons for that than just rampant consumerism. Maybe the end of
the "age of legends" is not such a bad thing. Course I didn't grow up with that music
and Canadians have their own dying myths so I'm probably not qualified to judge.
We have several thriving scenes here in Canada and most of that music never makes it
on the radio -- doesn't stop the artists or the listeners and never affects the
quality of the music, in fact, the bar keeps getting raised. Relentless media
attention may have reduced the impact that an individual artist can have but it has
also freed other artists from the burden of having to "represent". Dylan, writing
today, would be no less of a songwriter but actually might be better since he
wouldn't have to speak for a movement or a generation -- that's a lot of weight for
any artistic shoulders to bear.
Maybe you're right and we're all just going to be plastic people in tiny boxes but I
think you're speaking more from an American-at-the-close-of-your-most-pivotal-century
perspective. From this country, we're seeing a whole different future.
- Chris
> On 7 Mar 1999 12:49:30 -0800, j r sherman <jr...@wenet.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <7bul69$j7e$1...@news.kolumbus.fi>, "Antti says...
> >>
> >>j r sherman kirjoitti viestissä <7buf90$8ac$1...@its.hooked.net>...
> >>
> >> >>Die before you get old? Hey, age has its drawbacks, but as long as
> >> >>there's still fun to be had, and a few more poems to write, I still
> >> >>druther be old than dead. Life's short enuf; no sense wishing it
> >> >>shorter. Just cuz ya gets a few years under yer belt, don't mean ya
> >> >>gotsta let yer brain get ossified.
> >> >
> >> >not when you see a truckdriver talking on a cellular phone and wearing
> >> >a polo shirt. i wanted to see his fingernails. my old man still has
> >> >the stain of grease under his fingernails, even five years after he
> >> >retired.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >j r sherman
> >>
j r sherman
>
>
>Mr. Sherman,
Ms. Lesak.
>You are too harsh,
i? harsh? i'm sorry, i must politely disagree, i have never been harsh in my
entire life.
>too wrong, some right, but mostly exaggerating old
>news. Your kind of attitude has been around against progress forever,
>foreva, forever!
Ms. Sherrie, i am not against progress. i think technology is a very fine thing.
i think humans can progress with technology, and become better for it. what i am
against is technology in the hands of morons who still have not realized that
the earth is round. i refer to the KlownsOfKorporateAmerika. i know these people
Ms. Lesak, i know what they are, i have fixed their machines, i have brought
them their information. they are very stupid people who have risen to the tops
of their board room tables by political stealth and narrow focus. they are in
charge of far reaching information and technology, and have absolutely no clue
as to what they're doing. their stupidity is beyond the infinite. if there is
one thing you can bet one with those who control the technology of this world.
they will only do what will make them money, no matter what. that's their plan,
it's the only thing thay can conceive of and understand.
>And yes, forever is an exaggerated term too.
yes, forever is such a long time(sorry, i had to quote Dylan)
>What you say has been said about television, automobiles, Dvorak,
>calculators, slide rules, you name it. Come on! It's in the history
>books, and what stock holder, greedy money grubber, slave keeper,
>crazy guy at the top hasn't profitted from progress? And if you don't
>like the word progress, how about inventions? Well, probably the
>slave owners, but you see must see the point!!
as i said above. i don't have anything against technology, just the people who
are in charge of it.
>Don't be so righteous. Tell me you don't own stock. Tell me you
>don't have a 401k, IRA then I'll forgive a little.
i don't own stock.
as for the 401K, they give those to you when you go to work for certain
companies. and i don't mind those, why should i? i worked for it.
>Maybe I've been conditioned. I do get out. In fact, just rode my
>bike alongside the river. That was real (and so are sore muscles ;),
>but you know, I watch Rick Steve's travels in Europe; I read tons of
>books, National Geographic, and get to experience vicariously places
>I'm likely never to visit!
yes, but if the average person can stay at home and fuck a virtual ally
mcbeal(or any other virtual person), they will. they will not read, they will
not grow. they will be perfect little proles going to work for the board of
directors(who will do anything, even drink the blood of new born babies if they
have to, to stay as the board of directors), then come home and have unreal 3d
fun for the rest of the evening. if the board of directors get there way, that's
what will happen.
>And admit it. You talk porn here; tech. is great company at least, at
>the VERY least, until the real thing does come along! Let's hear it
>for electric sex! :)
but i do know the difference between the two Ms. Lesak. pornography is a pale
lite beer in comparison to the touch of a warm person lying next to you, in your
bed. i would hope everyone would know this difference. ;)
>Lighten up, you. :) I mean, the 49ers are very real via CRT not like
>in the flesh, but what would you have instead? Radio? Newspapers?
>Messengers on horseback?
well, before the days when the 49ers sold out their stadium, all their home
games were blacked out, and i would end up hearing about 7 game a year on the
radio.
>SLL (whose great grandmother was terrified of metric - the only place
>where USA lags behind the rest of the world!)
love and kisse,
j r sherman, more terrified of bill gates than the metric system.
>
>
>On 7 Mar 1999 12:49:30 -0800, j r sherman <jr...@wenet.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <7bul69$j7e$1...@news.kolumbus.fi>, "Antti says...
>>>
>>>j r sherman kirjoitti viestissä <7buf90$8ac$1...@its.hooked.net>...
>>>
>>> >>Die before you get old? Hey, age has its drawbacks, but as long as
>>> >>there's still fun to be had, and a few more poems to write, I still
>>> >>druther be old than dead. Life's short enuf; no sense wishing it
>>> >>shorter. Just cuz ya gets a few years under yer belt, don't mean ya
>>> >>gotsta let yer brain get ossified.
>>> >
>>> >not when you see a truckdriver talking on a cellular phone and wearing
>>> >a polo shirt. i wanted to see his fingernails. my old man still has
>>> >the stain of grease under his fingernails, even five years after he
>>> >retired.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >j r sherman
>>>
Jim Standish
(Lordy how he did write. Snippety-snip!)
All them people you so lengthily put down: hardly any of the names mean
a thing to me. We're in almost total agreement, except I really do love
Terry A. Dunno what you've got against him. Had him on the CD player a
good part of today.
Other than him, I can't name names, but I've a feeling there are still
some good country and blues artists, but not on the big labels and not
on the commercial stations.
Best,
Jim, who still mourns KFAT.
Jim Standish
> no thanks james
My name is Jim. Or shall I call you Junior?
Best,
Jim
SLL
Mr. Sherman,
You are too harsh, too wrong, some right, but mostly exaggerating old
news. Your kind of attitude has been around against progress forever,
foreva, forever! And yes, forever is an exaggerated term too.
What you say has been said about television, automobiles, Dvorak,
calculators, slide rules, you name it. Come on! It's in the history
books, and what stock holder, greedy money grubber, slave keeper,
crazy guy at the top hasn't profitted from progress? And if you don't
like the word progress, how about inventions? Well, probably the
slave owners, but you see must see the point!!
Don't be so righteous. Tell me you don't own stock. Tell me you
don't have a 401k, IRA then I'll forgive a little.
Maybe I've been conditioned. I do get out. In fact, just rode my
bike alongside the river. That was real (and so are sore muscles ;),
but you know, I watch Rick Steve's travels in Europe; I read tons of
books, National Geographic, and get to experience vicariously places
I'm likely never to visit!
And admit it. You talk porn here; tech. is great company at least, at
the VERY least, until the real thing does come along! Let's hear it
for electric sex! :)
Lighten up, you. :) I mean, the 49ers are very real via CRT not like
in the flesh, but what would you have instead? Radio? Newspapers?
Messengers on horseback?
SLL (whose great grandmother was terrified of metric - the only place
where USA lags behind the rest of the world!)
On 7 Mar 1999 12:49:30 -0800, j r sherman <jr...@wenet.net> wrote:
>In article <7bul69$j7e$1...@news.kolumbus.fi>, "Antti says...
>>
>>j r sherman kirjoitti viestissä <7buf90$8ac$1...@its.hooked.net>...
>>
>> >>Die before you get old? Hey, age has its drawbacks, but as long as
>> >>there's still fun to be had, and a few more poems to write, I still
>> >>druther be old than dead. Life's short enuf; no sense wishing it
>> >>shorter. Just cuz ya gets a few years under yer belt, don't mean ya
>> >>gotsta let yer brain get ossified.
>> >
>> >not when you see a truckdriver talking on a cellular phone and wearing
>> >a polo shirt. i wanted to see his fingernails. my old man still has
>> >the stain of grease under his fingernails, even five years after he
>> >retired.
>> >
>> >
>> >j r sherman
>>
SLL
>On Mon, 08 Mar 1999 01:15:06 GMT, nceg...@gte.net (SLL) wrote:
>
>>
>>Mr. Sherman,
>>>
>>SLL (whose great grandmother was terrified of metric - the only place
>>where USA lags behind the rest of the world!)
>
>not quite.
>
>gg
>but i don't want to start in on that
well, you started; say you don't want to continue.
why don't you? aw, come on, please? :|
SLL (nobody wants to have fun anymore :(
Redclay 6
john hiatt.
an bout sweet pop, the mysteries of life.
an the lemonheads will put one perflect pop song on jus bout ever albumin.
lyle lovett.
townes van zandt.
an theys more, but whilst im thankin ofit, even ani difrancos lass was
fergettable as the lass mackdonegales you passed.
an johnny cash, he woke from a long sleep, unchained was gooder snuff.
Antti Luode
>The world has always been going to hell in a handbasket and >"kids these
days" have
>never known "what music's really about". Nothing is ever as >good as the
"golden age"
.. I really Like, Dave Matthews band and Nick Drake.. And
there is lot of strange stuff out there, that I hear from my
MTV (german) during the long nights when I write.. Some really
cool alternative music is surfacing etc..
Its going to be interesting to hear the new GNR.. Axl has been
away for like, eons.. Everybody says that the new music they
are making is great.. Heck.. November Rain, Paradise City...
Paradise city.. Its one fucking awsome song.. The ending.. In
which there is two minutes left.. And they switch on the higher
gear.. And then, one minute left, and they switch on even higher
gear.. Its just the pinnacle of word ROCK.
Thers is this fusion thing happening everywhere in music.. There
are lot of cool stuff that could be done.. For example, taking
the Frank Sinatra Coolness, and throwing it on a heavy metal
band, etc.. Have you people heard the Finnish Apocalyptica?
The four dudes (five?) playing metallica with cellos..
Anyone want to mix Sinatra and Elvis sing My Way together?
I once listened to them at the same time.. It sounded great..
I guess the main thing is, that when we age, we lose the ability
to feel, as we did.. The lightning does not move as fast down the
spine as it did... Heck.. I am 25, and I can already feel slowling
down in that way.. But the good part about aging, is that we
become more unique.. More refined..
A.
j r sherman
>Chris Keelan kirjoitti viestissä
>>The world has always been going to hell in a handbasket and >"kids these
>days" have
>>never known "what music's really about". Nothing is ever as >good as the
>"golden age"
> .. I really Like, Dave Matthews band and Nick Drake.. And
>there is lot of strange stuff out there, that I hear from my
>MTV (german) during the long nights when I write.. Some really
>cool alternative music is surfacing etc..
where? where is this mecca of genius antii?
> Its going to be interesting to hear the new GNR.. Axl has been
>away for like, eons.. Everybody says that the new music they
>are making is great..
heh.....heh..... gunsandroses....heh.... you can always make me laugh
antii. they can't even make anyone forget Van Halen.... hell, they
can't even make anyone forget Twisted Sister...
>Heck.. November Rain, Paradise City...
>Paradise city.. Its one fucking awsome song.. The ending.. In
>which there is two minutes left.. And they switch on the higher
>gear.. And then, one minute left, and they switch on even higher
>gear.. Its just the pinnacle of word ROCK.
sorry, no.
> Thers is this fusion thing happening everywhere in music.. There
>are lot of cool stuff that could be done.. For example, taking
>the Frank Sinatra Coolness, and throwing it on a heavy metal
>band, etc.. Have you people heard the Finnish Apocalyptica?
>The four dudes (five?) playing metallica with cellos..
hmmmm... there was a band in SF about 13 years ago that did that one
antii. cellos hooked to amps, with a nice Led Zepplin rift, i can;t
even remember their name any more. if your interested, i can look it
up if you'd like. i see no expansion of the art here.
as for Frank, we used to make rap-frank loops back in college antti.
> Anyone want to mix Sinatra and Elvis sing My Way together?
>I once listened to them at the same time.. It sounded great..
no thanks. i'll listen to frank and elvis on their own. and perhaps
that's my point? how is blending the dead voices of Elvis and Frank
together expanding the music?
> I guess the main thing is, that when we age, we lose the ability
>to feel, as we did..
now that's funny.
>The lightning does not move as fast down the
>spine as it did...
play me something that has a soul in it and the lightening moves just
as fast as it ever did antti. heh. that's funny too.
>Heck.. I am 25, and I can already feel slowling
>down in that way..
still living in your parent's house have anything to do with that?
>But the good part about aging, is that we
>become more unique.. More refined..
you learn to fuck better. that's when the lightening gets better.
you kill me antii.
love and kisses,
j r sherman
>j r sherman <jr...@wenet.net> wrote:
>> no thanks james
>My name is Jim. Or shall I call you Junior?
why so upset? i didn't call you asshole.
alas, there goes my radio fame.
love and kisses,
SLL
>In article <7bv690$k6l$1...@news-2.news.gte.net>, nceg...@gte.net says...
>>
>>
>>Mr. Sherman,
>
>Ms. Lesak.
>
>>You are too harsh,
>
>i? harsh? i'm sorry, i must politely disagree, i have never been harsh in my
>entire life.
and you've never, ever, been goofy either.
>>too wrong, some right, but mostly exaggerating old
>>news. Your kind of attitude has been around against progress forever,
>>foreva, forever!
>
>Ms. Sherrie, i am not against progress. i think technology is a very fine thing.
>i think humans can progress with technology, and become better for it. what i am
>against is technology in the hands of morons who still have not realized that
>the earth is round. i refer to the KlownsOfKorporateAmerika. i know these people
>Ms. Lesak, i know what they are, i have fixed their machines, i have brought
>them their information. they are very stupid people who have risen to the tops
>of their board room tables by political stealth and narrow focus. they are in
>charge of far reaching information and technology, and have absolutely no clue
>as to what they're doing. their stupidity is beyond the infinite. if there is
>one thing you can bet one with those who control the technology of this world.
>they will only do what will make them money, no matter what. that's their plan,
>it's the only thing thay can conceive of and understand.
Included in the many topics I know little of, economics challenges me.
This is the technology age. Aren't all those "ages" what economic
systems are based upon? The bronze age = what advances made money,
created civilization, kept the people alive. The industrial age =
more slave labor, more slaves wanting to escape, labor unions, etc...
The technology age = make money. It's making the world go 'round
somehow and that's the kind of round about the world the top dudes
know about. agree.
But then you got your middle of road guys who pound pavement to find a
job = paychecks. They put in their eight to forty, collect the money
to pay the bills and start all over again. Then you have others who
let others do it for them. You have shiesters at the top and at the
so-called bottom.
Yes, I see you're not against technological progress. You're against
what's been going on in this world since the beginning of, well, since
foreva ;) -- man's inhumanity to man.
>>And yes, forever is an exaggerated term too.
>
>yes, forever is such a long time(sorry, i had to quote Dylan)
's all rrright.
>>What you say has been said about television, automobiles, Dvorak,
>>calculators, slide rules, you name it. Come on! It's in the history
>>books, and what stock holder, greedy money grubber, slave keeper,
>>crazy guy at the top hasn't profitted from progress? And if you don't
>>like the word progress, how about inventions? Well, probably the
>>slave owners, but you see must see the point!!
>
>as i said above. i don't have anything against technology, just the people who
>are in charge of it.
>
>>Don't be so righteous. Tell me you don't own stock. Tell me you
>>don't have a 401k, IRA then I'll forgive a little.
>
>i don't own stock.
>as for the 401K, they give those to you when you go to work for certain
>companies. and i don't mind those, why should i? i worked for it.
but that's an over (or under) glorified stock. and that's what the
stock guys 'd say. they work for it. they put the money into it,
sweated it, let the money work for it; they make more money, and
credit it all with not minding those stocks. why should they? they
made money.
>>Maybe I've been conditioned. I do get out. In fact, just rode my
>>bike alongside the river. That was real (and so are sore muscles ;),
>>but you know, I watch Rick Steve's travels in Europe; I read tons of
>>books, National Geographic, and get to experience vicariously places
>>I'm likely never to visit!
>
>yes, but if the average person can stay at home and fuck a virtual ally
>mcbeal(or any other virtual person),
thank you for the ( ) part; ally's not my type.
>they will. they will not read, they will
>not grow. they will be perfect little proles going to work for the board of
>directors(who will do anything, even drink the blood of new born babies if they
>have to, to stay as the board of directors), then come home and have unreal 3d
>fun for the rest of the evening. if the board of directors get there way, that's
>what will happen.
you talk as if it hasn't happened, hasn't already happened. geee
minny! I help you make your point, but it's nothing new! my point
all along. who are you blaming? corporate or the proles? blaming
conditioning I understand, but my dog doesn't complain when I krinkle
his beef jerky bag unless I tease him. he growls. I see a point here
but I'm late for work. gotta make money. :)
>>And admit it. You talk porn here; tech. is great company at least, at
>>the VERY least, until the real thing does come along! Let's hear it
>>for electric sex! :)
>
>but i do know the difference between the two Ms. Lesak. pornography is a pale
>lite beer in comparison to the touch of a warm person lying next to you, in your
>bed. i would hope everyone would know this difference. ;)
gosh, and the difference between the touch of a warm person vs. a hot
person knows no comparison!
>>Lighten up, you. :) I mean, the 49ers are very real via CRT not like
>>in the flesh, but what would you have instead? Radio? Newspapers?
>>Messengers on horseback?
>
>well, before the days when the 49ers sold out their stadium, all their home
>games were blacked out, and i would end up hearing about 7 game a year on the
>radio.
okay. thank corporate for radio. you got 7.
>>SLL (whose great grandmother was terrified of metric - the only place
>>where USA lags behind the rest of the world!)
>
>love and kisse,
>
>j r sherman, more terrified of bill gates than the metric system.
perhaps there's something here. but there's gotta be more greedy
people out there who'd love to go after him. love them for now. then
fear them. :)
loves and kiss,
SLL
Amanda Rachelle Warren
> Chris Keelan kirjoitti viestissä
>
> >The world has always been going to hell in a handbasket and >"kids these
> days" have
> >never known "what music's really about". Nothing is ever as >good as the
> "golden age"
>
> .. I really Like, Dave Matthews band and Nick Drake.. And
> there is lot of strange stuff out there, that I hear from my
> MTV (german) during the long nights when I write.. Some really
> cool alternative music is surfacing etc..
>
> Its going to be interesting to hear the new GNR.. Axl has been
> away for like, eons.. Everybody says that the new music they
> are making is great.. Heck.. November Rain, Paradise City...
> Paradise city.. Its one fucking awsome song.. The ending.. In
> which there is two minutes left.. And they switch on the higher
> gear.. And then, one minute left, and they switch on even higher
> gear.. Its just the pinnacle of word ROCK.
NO NO NO ANTTI! NOOOOOOOOO! Why? Why can't Axl Rose just disappear
forever? NOOOOOO! (I am sorry about the exported American music.)
>
> Thers is this fusion thing happening everywhere in music.. There
> are lot of cool stuff that could be done.. For example, taking
> the Frank Sinatra Coolness, and throwing it on a heavy metal
> band, etc.. Have you people heard the Finnish Apocalyptica?
> The four dudes (five?) playing metallica with cellos..
>
> Anyone want to mix Sinatra and Elvis sing My Way together?
> I once listened to them at the same time.. It sounded great..
>
> I guess the main thing is, that when we age, we lose the ability
> to feel, as we did.. The lightning does not move as fast down the
> spine as it did... Heck.. I am 25, and I can already feel slowling
> down in that way.. But the good part about aging, is that we
> become more unique.. More refined..
>
I agree you are old, and you like guns and roses... Antti...I'm sobbing
for you. Drink some coffee.
Just a regular lil ol lightening bolt at 23,
Amanda
> A.
Antti Luode
>I agree you are old, and you like guns and roses... Antti...I'm >sobbing
>for you. Drink some coffee.
>
>Just a regular lil ol lightening bolt at 23,
>Amanda
Music serves a purpose.
I have always been honest about my taste in music, I respect the taste
of other people too. I could not care less about the opinion of Jr or
anyone else about music. All I know is that, when I drive my bicycle on a
sunlit blue skied spring day, "paradise city ", is like adrenaline
injection.
If you folks hate axl, go on, hate him all you want. I think the man has
made brilliant music (+ he has written great lyrics). If he had wanted only
to make money he could have toured with GNR until the kingdom come.
But what did the man do? He wanted to make something different!
Infact, so different that Slash does not even call it rock.
Slash has said that if Axl made a ROCK record, he would be in
the band if Axl just asked.. But apparently, in his Malibu apartment, he is
planning to make something DIFFERENT..
I hope the new GNR record will kick ass. And even if it does
not. I respect Axl & Slash & band for doing what they once did.
A.
(who also like music composed over two hundred years ago)
(and heck, I think the Gregorian choirs sound cool too.. :) )
(I grew tired of Jewel, really fast.. If I want to hear depressing
music, Ill go straight to Moonlight Sonata. Which I feel is very
close to the "haunted" alternative rock. )
Jody McGinness
<antti...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>Amanda Rachelle Warren kirjoitti viestissä ...
>
>>I agree you are old, and you like guns and roses... Antti...I'm >sobbing
>>for you. Drink some coffee.
>>
>>Just a regular lil ol lightening bolt at 23,
>>Amanda
>
>
> Music serves a purpose.
No it don't. Okay, mebbe it does.
>
> I have always been honest about my taste in music,
Not so, me. I've lied and lied. Except to Manda. She knows my dirty
little secret. What I sing in the shower when I'm sure there's no one
else in the house.
I respect the taste
>of other people too. I could not care less about the opinion of Jr or
>anyone else about music. All I know is that, when I drive my bicycle on a
>sunlit blue skied spring day, "paradise city ", is like adrenaline
>injection.
Don't worry Antti, for everyone who loves 80's hairspray heavy-metal,
there's someone who likes Woodie Guthrie. My uncle likes the Brothers
Four, but I still think he's a hell of a guy. Me, I like Elvis
Costello ( his album with Burt Bacharach is stunning) and surfpunk. If
I (just one person) can have such a huge dichotomy in the types of
music I enjoy, imagine the variation in the WORLD. JR just gets a
little fuddy-duddyish when his tastes are approached. He just feels
strongly enough that he forgets to be open-minded. You got to be a
stickler for something, you know...
>
> If you folks hate axl, go on, hate him all you want. I think the man has
>made brilliant music (+ he has written great lyrics). If he had wanted only
>to make money he could have toured with GNR until the kingdom come.
And he's so pretty.
>
> But what did the man do? He wanted to make something different!
>Infact, so different that Slash does not even call it rock.
>Slash has said that if Axl made a ROCK record, he would be in
>the band if Axl just asked.. But apparently, in his Malibu apartment, he is
>planning to make something DIFFERENT..
Well. I won't question your taste in music. In middle school I swore
by G&R. Your taste in role models though....
>
> I hope the new GNR record will kick ass. And even if it does
>not. I respect Axl & Slash & band for doing what they once did.
I think they've probably passed their peak, myself. But I could be
wrong. I get tired of idiots saying how Slash is the greatest
guitarist in the world. Ugh. I mean, you ever hear of Nugent? Hendrix?
Here's a name: ERIC FRIGGIN CLAPTON, Satriani, the list goes on... I'd
put Slash around Yani. But that's just my opinion. Lost in a sea of
opinions. And none of them more right than the other....
- Jody
Robert OR Renay
Antti Luode wrote in message <7bvi68$867$1...@news.kolumbus.fi>...
: Its going to be interesting to hear the new GNR.. Axl has been
:away for like, eons.. Everybody says that the new music they
:are making is great.. Heck.. November Rain, Paradise City...
:Paradise city.. Its one fucking awsome song.. The ending.. In
:which there is two minutes left.. And they switch on the higher
:gear.. And then, one minute left, and they switch on even higher
:gear.. Its just the pinnacle of word ROCK.
*****GnR, Antti? eeeuuuuuuw! they're not American Rock. American
Rock is Savoy Brown, no, wait, they're Brits. okay, it's the Beatles...er...
Stones...um, it's Steve bygawdMiller, that's who it is!
Renay
Amanda Rachelle Warren
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On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Antti Luode wrote:
> Amanda Rachelle Warren kirjoitti viestissä ...
>
> >I agree you are old, and you like guns and roses... Antti...I'm >sobbing
> >for you. Drink some coffee.
> >
> >Just a regular lil ol lightening bolt at 23,
> >Amanda
>
>
> Music serves a purpose.
>
> I have always been honest about my taste in music, I respect the taste
> of other people too. I could not care less about the opinion of Jr or
> anyone else about music. All I know is that, when I drive my bicycle on a
> sunlit blue skied spring day, "paradise city ", is like adrenaline
> injection.
This is all that really matters. For me it is driving fast and grooving
to some cheesy 80's emo pop. I can't help it. Singing any Cure song at
the top of my lungs at 75 mph, windows down...it is "Just like Heaven".
you like who you want...YOU GO BOY.
>
> If you folks hate axl, go on, hate him all you want. I think the man has
> made brilliant music (+ he has written great lyrics). If he had wanted only
> to make money he could have toured with GNR until the kingdom come.
>
> But what did the man do? He wanted to make something different!
> Infact, so different that Slash does not even call it rock.
> Slash has said that if Axl made a ROCK record, he would be in
> the band if Axl just asked.. But apparently, in his Malibu apartment, he is
> planning to make something DIFFERENT..
>
> I hope the new GNR record will kick ass. And even if it does
> not. I respect Axl & Slash & band for doing what they once did.
>
I will cross my fingers for you.
> A.
> (who also like music composed over two hundred years ago)
>
OOH, Carmina Barona...(i cant spell it) that is ooh, soo, fab.
> (and heck, I think the Gregorian choirs sound cool too.. :) )
>
> (I grew tired of Jewel, really fast.. If I want to hear depressing
> music, Ill go straight to Moonlight Sonata. Which I feel is very
> close to the "haunted" alternative rock. )
Jewel is EVIL. We can argue about this. EVIL. Not in a tempting way...just
WRONG.
Love to Finland,
Amanda
Antti Luode
>
>*****GnR, Antti? eeeuuuuuuw! they're not American Rock. >Renay
Well.. I forgot.. GNR is not the Pinnacle of Rock. The Pinnacle
(what ever it means, ive seen word used in this kind of context..)
of rock comes from Australia.. Its a band that got its name from
one of the band members sister, who alledgely saw this plate
on the back of a fridge.. It said. AC DC .. And he told the guys
hey, aint that a good name for the band.. (urban legend) .. :)
Those guys could kick ass even relatively short time ago..
The "Razors Edge" cd from 91 (90).. Was something else.. I used
to train on this 500 m long hill in the dark in sleet, running it fast
to the top and then jogging down.. I dont know if I am masochist
or what.. But even as I could hardly see, and my feet slipped beneath me..
That good ole ac dc could make me run like a nut..
AND IT FELT GOOD.. :) Aaa aaa aaa, THUNDER... A aa Aaa
aa aaa Thunder.. (guitars) .. MAN ..
But GNR is cool too... :)
Heck.. Do I have to make a list..
Page and Coverdle.. Hmmm...
JR who is Woody Gunthrie? Brother of Adam Sandler? The keyboardist from
the wedding singer? :)
A.
(trying to stay away from coffee)
(cause I am a bit tired of making a fool of myself while I am
caffeinated.)
Amanda Rachelle Warren
> On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 20:09:42 +0200, "Antti Luode"
> <antti...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>
> >Amanda Rachelle Warren kirjoitti viestissä ...
> >
> >>I agree you are old, and you like guns and roses... Antti...I'm >sobbing
> >>for you. Drink some coffee.
> >>
> >>Just a regular lil ol lightening bolt at 23,
> >>Amanda
> >
> >
> > Music serves a purpose.
>
> No it don't. Okay, mebbe it does.
>
> >
> > I have always been honest about my taste in music,
>
> Not so, me. I've lied and lied. Except to Manda. She knows my dirty
> little secret. What I sing in the shower when I'm sure there's no one
> else in the house.
OOH. Lie to me...hey thats Eurythmics...they is good too. Dirty dirty
secrets, yeah, I got the scoop poop.
>
> I respect the taste
> >of other people too. I could not care less about the opinion of Jr or
> >anyone else about music. All I know is that, when I drive my bicycle on a
> >sunlit blue skied spring day, "paradise city ", is like adrenaline
> >injection.
>
> Don't worry Antti, for everyone who loves 80's hairspray heavy-metal,
> there's someone who likes Woodie Guthrie. My uncle likes the Brothers
> Four, but I still think he's a hell of a guy. Me, I like Elvis
> Costello ( his album with Burt Bacharach is stunning) and surfpunk. If
> I (just one person) can have such a huge dichotomy in the types of
> music I enjoy, imagine the variation in the WORLD. JR just gets a
> little fuddy-duddyish when his tastes are approached. He just feels
> strongly enough that he forgets to be open-minded. You got to be a
> stickler for something, you know...
>
You know I once stayed up all night to win tickets to a Def Lepard
concert. I also went to a NewKids concert when I was 13...Quit Laughing,
I'm not proud of it you know.
j r is cool. (I wonder if he'll pay me to say that?)
> >
> > If you folks hate axl, go on, hate him all you want. I think the man has
> >made brilliant music (+ he has written great lyrics). If he had wanted only
> >to make money he could have toured with GNR until the kingdom come.
>
> And he's so pretty.
>
AH....NOOOOOOO! Not pretty. I did meet Axl Rose's mother once (adopted),
she's a tole painter.
Jody smells like teen spirit,
Amanda
> >
> > But what did the man do? He wanted to make something different!
> >Infact, so different that Slash does not even call it rock.
> >Slash has said that if Axl made a ROCK record, he would be in
> >the band if Axl just asked.. But apparently, in his Malibu apartment, he is
> >planning to make something DIFFERENT..
>
> Well. I won't question your taste in music. In middle school I swore
> by G&R. Your taste in role models though....
>
> >
> > I hope the new GNR record will kick ass. And even if it does
> >not. I respect Axl & Slash & band for doing what they once did.
>
> I think they've probably passed their peak, myself. But I could be
> wrong. I get tired of idiots saying how Slash is the greatest
> guitarist in the world. Ugh. I mean, you ever hear of Nugent? Hendrix?
> Here's a name: ERIC FRIGGIN CLAPTON, Satriani, the list goes on... I'd
> put Slash around Yani. But that's just my opinion. Lost in a sea of
> opinions. And none of them more right than the other....
>
>
> - Jody
>
> >
> > A.
> >(who also like music composed over two hundred years ago)
> >
> >(and heck, I think the Gregorian choirs sound cool too.. :) )
> >
> >(I grew tired of Jewel, really fast.. If I want to hear depressing
> >music, Ill go straight to Moonlight Sonata. Which I feel is very
> >close to the "haunted" alternative rock. )
> >
> >
>
>
>
Antti Luode
to some cheesy 80's emo pop. I can't help it. Singing >any Cure song at
the top of my lungs at 75 mph, windows >down...it is "Just like Heaven".
>you like who you want...YOU GO BOY.
Yeah... And that "I love cats".. And and.. I remember that video in
which a closet falls down from a ridge and they have this party inside it..
Cure was cool.. JR.. Look now here! CURE WAS COOL.. And hey, PET SHOP BOYS!
I mean.. Those synths in "Its a sin"..
The thunder striking above the ambient landscape..
Has anyone of you listened to "La Passione" by Chris Rea?
This pretty unknown European singer who made it big in the
end of 70'es with his LP "What ever happened to Benny Santini?"
.. Well.. "La Passione" is a movie about race driver, which Chris
made himself, and wrote the music to.. There are some songs
that I relate totally with.. like "When the grey skies turn to blue",
and "you must follow"..
American music? Screw American Music.. Ill listen to Tibetan
Monks if they can reflect something inside of me.. Music is not
something to be taken seriously.. Its not a brickwall that will
shut us in.. It can not stop evolving.. Its always going somewhere..
Right now.. We are in a new phase.. Just wait and see... The
mp3 standard is going to make big changes..
>> (I grew tired of Jewel, really fast.. If I want to hear depressing
>> music, Ill go straight to Moonlight Sonata. Which I feel is very
>> close to the "haunted" alternative rock. )
>
>Jewel is EVIL. We can argue about this. EVIL. Not in a tempting
>Away...just
>WRONG.
I wont judge her.. She is a perfectionist.. I like my music (best)
raw and vibrant..
>
>
>Love to Finland,
>Amanda
Love is a big word. Sometimes I think, that people
in USA can not value it, cause they once had it for free.. :)
Cautious greetings to US
Antti
Antti Luode
>secrets, yeah, I got the scoop poop.
Oh heck.. I was just listening to my first CD (86).. REVENGE
EURYTHMICS..
Well the missionary man he has got god on his side
he has got the saints and apostoles backing up from behind
black eyed looks from those bible books
he is a man with a mission
got a serious mind..
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN , JOHN MELLENCAMP, LENNY KRAVIZ, STING, U2, MARC COHN ..
Argh.. Jr.. What are you saying..
A.
Antti Luode
And the subject was only American music.. Well.. Ill blush, take
few steps back and vanish over the seas and Finland way..
Hyvää yötä!
A.
RSommo
McGinness) writes:
>Don't worry Antti, for everyone who loves 80's hairspray heavy-metal,
>there's someone who likes Woodie Guthrie. My uncle likes the Brothers
>Four, but I still think he's a hell of a guy. Me, I like Elvis
>Costello
So, what's wrong with the Brothers Four????
Mom
("Lemon tree, very pretty . . . ")
j r sherman
>Amanda Rachelle Warren kirjoitti viestissä ...
>BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN , JOHN MELLENCAMP, LENNY KRAVIZ, STING, U2, MARC COHN ..
>Argh.. Jr.. What are you saying..
i'm letting you children amuse yourselves.
>BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
at least he's original.
>JOHN MELLENCAMP
one of the best lyrics writers living. i always love arguing
Mellancamp with people because i so easily win.
>LENNY KRAVIZ
don't make me laugh antii.
>STING
the police were a good band. on his own he couldn't write an original
song to save his life. he can't act either.
>U2
pop was a strange album. u2 went to germany and produced a
masterpiece, then got lost somewhere.
>MARC COHN
well, it's not elevator music.
Marek Lugowski
Amanda Rachelle Warren <aw31...@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> wrote:
>On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Antti Luode wrote:
...
>> A.
>> (who also like music composed over two hundred years ago)
>>
>OOH, Carmina Barona...(i cant spell it) that is ooh, soo, fab.
1937, not nearly over 200 years ago, gf. Burana, as in Songs of Buren.
-- Marek
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Amanda Rachelle Warren
> In article <Pine.OSF.3.93.99030...@oak.cats.ohiou.edu>,
> Amanda Rachelle Warren <aw31...@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Antti Luode wrote:
> ...
> >> A.
> >> (who also like music composed over two hundred years ago)
> >>
> >OOH, Carmina Barona...(i cant spell it) that is ooh, soo, fab.
>
> 1937, not nearly over 200 years ago, gf. Burana, as in Songs of Buren.
Are you sure? I had no idea...some something in my lil head remembers
something about this being one of the first pieces written in vulgate
lang...meaning what...italian, not latin, common language? Merci for
busting my bubble of antiquity...I still love it. It was just romantic
idealism which wanted me to believe it was older than it is...all those
pleas to nature...bacchic revelry and whatnots. But it is durn purty
nonetheless, and hearing it performed live...ooh, incroyable, the blood in
my veins beating in time to the percussion section, my cells vibrating
with every stroke of bow, violins, violas, cellos...sigh.
merci favorite bf,
Amanda
>
> -- Marek
> --
> ------------------- : http://www.enteract.com/~marek : ------------------
> 1. clickable geomap : magical mystery tour last add : Kristie's postcard
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> 3. and : A Small Garlic Press (ASGP): a 501c3 Nonprofit Corp
>
>
Marek Lugowski
I just did an altavista search on Carmina Burana. Try this link:
http://www.thedoors.com/BeHere/ray/cbinfo.html
It talks about a Philip Glass-produced version and a bit about the history.
You should then do an altavista search on Carl Orff, the composer. :)
Marek Lugowski
Speaking of, no, not hank williams sr., but of Carl Orff the German
composer and kid music teacher, this link is really fun:
It has interesting on-topicness for rap -- especially the treatment of
rhythm by Orff and those who worked with him and after him.
Remember, we talked about "flow" the ill-defined quality of poetry.
Well, this harks back to it.
Jody McGinness
That's what I always ask myself when they're playing. "What's wrong
with these guys?"
Don't hit me.
- Jody
diamond jim
wrote:
at least they could harmonize. something that most groups can no
longer do.
how typically artistically-bankrupt-late-90's-chic of you jody.
love and kisses,
diamond jim
------------------------------------------------
Son, don't be home too late
Try to get back by eight
Son, don't wait till the break of day
'Cause you know how time fades away
Neil Young
--------------------------------------------------
Jody McGinness
> On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:32:03 GMT, xcal...@charm.net (Jody McGinness)
> wrote:
>
> >On 09 Mar 1999 02:56:12 GMT, rso...@aol.comxtratext (RSommo) wrote:
> >
> >>In article <36e42742....@news.supernews.com>, xcal...@charm.net (Jody
> >>McGinness) writes:
> >>
> >>>Don't worry Antti, for everyone who loves 80's hairspray heavy-metal,
> >>>there's someone who likes Woodie Guthrie. My uncle likes the Brothers
> >>>Four, but I still think he's a hell of a guy. Me, I like Elvis
> >>>Costello
> >>
> >>So, what's wrong with the Brothers Four????
> >
> >That's what I always ask myself when they're playing. "What's wrong
> >with these guys?"
> >
> >Don't hit me.
> >
> >- Jody
> >
>
>
> at least they could harmonize. something that most groups can no
> longer do.
I suppose they can. But so can dogs braying at the moon, with a little
luck.
>
> how typically artistically-bankrupt-late-90's-chic of you jody.
how typically stuck-in-your-youth-unable-to-grow-after-30 of you Shermy.
>
>
> love and kisses,
>
>
> diamond jim
>
Maybe you just need to listen to different music.
- Jody
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> Son, don't be home too late
> Try to get back by eight
> Son, don't wait till the break of day
> 'Cause you know how time fades away
>
> Neil Young
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
-----Jody McGinness-----
RSommo
McGinness) writes:
>
>That's what I always ask myself when they're playing. "What's wrong
>with these guys?"
>
>Don't hit me.
>
>- Jody
>
>
I wouldn't dream of hitting you, Jody. I'd rather dream about being
six or seven years old, coming home after school, to a house filled
with sunlight and
The Brothers Four
The New Christie Minstrels (white bread folk extrordinaire)
Johnny Cash
Joan Baez
Herb Alpert
Segovia
Burl Ives
and all the names I've forgotten.
And the house was the last one on base housing, with a big
empty field separating it from the flight line, where daddy kept the
bombers flying.
And the house was clean, had to be. They held surprise inspections.
I'm sure there's some music from your childhood that, while you
might not choose it now, will always be remembered fondly.
Robin
(used ta be somebody's child)
Jeannekhan
You enscapulated so very well.
I taste the pablum and wonder why
it gags me. You clarified the issue.
The recent shit is vanilla ice cream
and would not fertilize my mushrooms.
Jeanne who recalls raucous rowdy
irreverent musicians with respect
because they earned it.
>Subject: Re: the father of hank williams jr.
>From: jr...@wenet.net (j r sherman )
>Date: 3/7/99 10:09 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <7buf90$8ac$1...@its.hooked.net>
>
>jimst...@earthlink.net (Jim Standish) wrote:
>
>>Robert OR Renay <stj...@ricochet.net> wrote:
>
>>> *****here's my brief list of not-to-be-forgottens
>>>
>>> Ray Price (For the Good Times...is there a better song to get drunk to?)
>>> Jeanne Pruett (Satin Sheets kicks ass) Sammi Smith (one of the truly great
>>> voices ever. she did Help Me Make it through the Night before even Willie
>>> Nelson)
>>> Sonny James
>>> Charlie Rich (the beginning of lounge country, but
>>> still. c'mon "When We Get Behind Closed Doors makes ya wanna take off
>>> some clothes!)
>>> Jeannie C. Rielley (I can forgive her for Harper Valley PTA
>>> cuz she then recorded Manhattan, Kansas) gawd, this list isn't so brief,
>>> is it.
>>> Jerry Jeff Walker (Up Against the Wall, Redneck Mother is too a
>>> country song!)
>>> Tom T. Hall!!!! (ignore the silly songs and he's a genius)
>>> speaking of geniuses...Kris Kristofferson. as a songwriter, he's
>>> untouchable.
>>> okay, okay, I'm stopping. I've gone beyond brief.
>>> wait, Patti Page, PATSY CLINE!
>
>>okay, here's a few off the top o' my old-but-gladly-not-yet-dead head:
>
>>Little Jimmy Dickens
>>Grandpa Jones
>>Hank Snow
>>Webb Pierce
>>Red Foley
>>Ernest Tubb
>>Marty Robbins
>>Sons of the Pioneers
>>Kitty Wells
>>Tanya Tucker
>>and, from back before bluegrass was a separate category...
>>well, you know who...
>
>>more recently:
>>Bobby Bare
>>Waylon Jennings & Jessie Coulter
>>Linda Ronstadt
>>Roseanne Cash
>>and yes, Dolly Parton at her (admittedly rare) best
>>oh, wait: Emmy Lou Emmy Lou Emmy Lou!!
>
>>and ... ta-da! ... as I've mentioned recently:
>>Terry Allen (now on Sugar Hill)
>
>no thanks james, i'll pass on terry. and most of the rest of the 80's
>and 90's country. name one new "artist" in country music over the last
>ten years fit to serve drinks to the list you mention above? none of
>them. all of them blow dried-painted whores with no clue that they're
>no better than the worse skanked out LA streetwalker, and even less
>honest. they're giving blowjobs to Hugh Grant and don't even know it.
>
>and rock is no better, it's just as dead as country. what's out there
>to listen to now? it was interesting, i looked at a billboard chart
>from the summer of 1969. in the top fifty you had the Beatles, the
>Stones, the Who, the Kinks, Dylan, Neil Young, Aretha Franklin, Ike
>and Tina, Sly and the Family Stone, The Band, The Doors, even Elvis,
>old, fat, drugged Elvis, Sam and Dave appeared there, as did the best
>of Otis Redding. these were artists selling many millions of records,
>popular, making huge amounts of money for the companies they worked
>for(in the case of Otis, he was already dead for two years). can any
>band of the last five years even equal all those i mentoned above at
>their worst? some one made me listen to this new band called
>Everclear. this is what's presented as the finest of rock music today?
>Beck? Toad the Wet Sprocket? Marilyn Manson and Trent Reznor doing
>their bad impression of David Bowie?
>
>christ, even new Rap(the music), trashed out junk made for white kids
>to scare their parents with the big-ol-black-man.
>
>is there any blues anymore? on occasion the grammys love to throw a
>bone at John Lee Hooker, so that the music industry can claim they're
>Mr. Black People.
>
>with folk their was actually some hope. but the Battleship KorpAmerika
>finally turned around and noticed folk, and we are given Jewel, Joan
>Osborne, Alanis Morrisette and Sarah McLachlan as nice sweet "safe"
>examples of "good folk", electricfied and mostly empty, as they
>deparately try to forget the Indigo Girls, and Dar and Lucinda
>Williams, Wild Strawberries, Shawn Colvin, soon to be buried and
>forgotten in the haze of KorpAmerika wanting to make the legacy of
>Woody Guthrie, Cisco Houston, and Phil Ochs, and Joan Baez just a
>memory.
>
>everything the corporation touches turns to shit. everything it does
>is aimed at making sure the youth of the world keeps buying the shit
>they've been convinced is what they "just have to have". their music
>is lovely little shallow nothings created by lovely little shallow
>nothings with no clue that they're no better than the oldest whore at
>the Mustang Ranch in Nevada. no one takes new music seriously.
>
>they built a sign for Hank Williams in north carolina when he died,
>and it was run down by Billy Ray Cyrus in his brand new porsche. idiot
>Billy paused for a moment, a stupid slack-jawed grin on his face,
>saying "i wonder what the fuck that was?" then he sped off. he was in
>a hurry, he had to perform his monkey act at some board meeting
>somewhere. he didn't really mind, like all monkeys, he had no clue as
>to what he was doing.
>
>>Die before you get old? Hey, age has its drawbacks, but as long as
>>there's still fun to be had, and a few more poems to write, I still
>>druther be old than dead. Life's short enuf; no sense wishing it
>>shorter. Just cuz ya gets a few years under yer belt, don't mean ya
>>gotsta let yer brain get ossified.
>
>not when you see a truckdriver talking on a cellular phone and wearing
>a polo shirt. i wanted to see his fingernails. my old man still has
>the stain of grease under his fingernails, even five years after he
>retired.
Dancing Bear
>
>
>at least they could harmonize. something that most groups can no
>longer do.
Or actually play their instruments proficiently. You gotta know
how to do shit with a turntable and a mixer, though. I'll give em
that.
<...got 2 turntables and a microphone...>
-Dancing Bear
Editor-in-Chief, Disquieting Muses
http://mac8.stattenfield.org/~george/disquieting_muses/
Bear's Lair
http://www.hooked.net/~bear
diamond jim
NO Ms. Robin, it must be hip/and/or/cool by standards set by Wired
magazine! you are what you listen to! GET with the 90's before the
90's are done with you (which means by the time you get with it, it
will have passed on to something equally as shallow, no, more shallow!
that's it! i have discovered the plan! make everything SO shallow that
it becomes deep! three consultants at Arthur Anderson thought that one
up! onward Wall Street's soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross
of JP Morgan, burning forever more!)!
me? i want hot summer nights on the sacramento river and bad beer with
my allman brothers and eagles and led zepplin, with one pack of
cigarettes shared between 8 people, and saving the butts cause we
could always roll the left over tobacco in zig-zags.
i want to hear Chronic Town for the first time again. before they got
big and then everyone said they were there from the first.
i want Burl Ives too, and TruckStop Willie, and even god forsaken Ben
Colder, i want to here about trailers for sale or rent, i want to hear
puff the magic dragon, cause it ain't about pot, it's a about a
dragon, for fucking christ's sake! hey, even the monkees might amuse
me again, ya know?
hmmm. some people might just miss the point. someplace we sold the
farm and became a nation of whores. and to those who have only known a
nation of whores, they may not know the difference.actually, they
don't know the difference at all. we weren't always a nation of
whores.
the sign blew down in north carolina, no one noticed.
love and kisses,
diamond "s are a girl's best fiend, no misspelling there" jim
Dancing Bear
rso...@aol.comxtratext says...
>
>
>Johnny Cash
Thing is, I can't stand country music. Well, let me qualify that: modern
country music. But there's something about Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Patsy
Cline and others from that era. I used to "have to" listen to that stuff when I
worked in Cattlemen's restuarant as a line cook. To this day I hum or sing them
songs. And I was a guy who was listening to the Talking Heads, Ian Dury and
Devo when everyone else was listening to Fleetwood Mac and Frampton. I've
followed modern, alternative, new-wave (and host of other descriptors) rock ever
since. Love it. But I still have a soft spot for the older, often forgotten
country music.
<...found my one desire ... I fell into a ring of fire>
Jody McGinness
hmm... yeah, I guess... peter, paul and mary... I still get a little
choked up at puff the magic dragon... know what you mean.
- Jody
>
>
Jody McGinness
>NO Ms. Robin, it must be hip/and/or/cool by standards set by Wired
>magazine!
I'd have been hard pressed to think of the name of that magazine.
you are what you listen to! GET with the 90's before the
>90's are done with you (which means by the time you get with it, it
>will have passed on to something equally as shallow, no, more shallow!
Youth is shallow. Age is deep. Nevermind that my Grandmother thinks
the sun rises and sets on Bobby Goldsboro's ass.
>that's it! i have discovered the plan! make everything SO shallow that
>it becomes deep! three consultants at Arthur Anderson thought that one
>up! onward Wall Street's soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross
>of JP Morgan, burning forever more!)!
Jesus... do you know what you sound like, preaching how all young
tastes are shallow and unworthy compared with what there was when you
were a kid? You sound like your parents. Everyone's parents. And
stereotypically parent-like parents at that.
Ugh.
I'm tired.
- Jody
RSommo
McGinness) writes:
>
>hmm... yeah, I guess... peter, paul and mary... I still get a little
>choked up at puff the magic dragon... know what you mean.
>
>- Jody
>
Damn. I knew I left out someone important.
R.
RSommo
>
>NO Ms. Robin, it must be hip/and/or/cool by standards set by Wired
>magazine! you are what you listen to! GET with the 90's before the
>90's are done with you (which means by the time you get with it, it
>will have passed on to something equally as shallow, no, more shallow!
>that's it! i have discovered the plan! make everything SO shallow that
>it becomes deep! three consultants at Arthur Anderson thought that one
>up! onward Wall Street's soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross
>of JP Morgan, burning forever more!)!
Chill, dear. I refuse to "get with" any decade -- they'll all play you false
eventually. We all apend some time in the shallow end -- else we'd drown.
Most of us also strike out now and then to where we can't touch bottom.
You can't change anyone but yourself.
>
>me? i want hot summer nights on the sacramento river and bad beer with
>my allman brothers and eagles and led zepplin, with one pack of
>cigarettes shared between 8 people, and saving the butts cause we
>could always roll the left over tobacco in zig-zags.
>
>i want to hear Chronic Town for the first time again. before they got
>big and then everyone said they were there from the first.
>
>i want Burl Ives too, and TruckStop Willie, and even god forsaken Ben
>Colder, i want to here about trailers for sale or rent, i want to hear
>puff the magic dragon, cause it ain't about pot, it's a about a
>dragon, for fucking christ's sake! hey, even the monkees might amuse
>me again, ya know?
Yes, yes, yes. You understand. We are nostalgic even for
insincerity, if it was the insincerity of our innocense.
>
>hmmm. some people might just miss the point. someplace we sold the
>farm and became a nation of whores. and to those who have only known a
>nation of whores, they may not know the difference.actually, they
>don't know the difference at all. we weren't always a nation of
>whores.
Weren't we? I think I'd disagree with this. We have done a better job
of hiding it at times, that's all.
>
>the sign blew down in north carolina, no one noticed.
>
I know. It's ok.
Love,
Robin
(choose a tag:
a. (developing the whore within)
b. (disillusioned idealists are the bitterest cynics))
RSommo
<bear_d...@hotmail.com> writes:
And Glen Campbell -- I forgot Glen Campbell.
Robin
(It's knowin that your door is always open and your path is free to walk
that makes me tend to leave my sleeping bag rolled up and stashed
behind your couch.)
Ryan Deschamps
SOrry, old joke of mine-- but what about TOny Orlando & Dawn's _Candida_.
Something to be said for a love song about a yeast infection.
Chills up my spine for sure. . .
Ryan. . .
RSommo
<Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.99...@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca>, Ryan
Deschamps <gre...@chebucto.ns.ca> writes:
>
>SOrry, old joke of mine-- but what about TOny Orlando & Dawn's _Candida_.
>Something to be said for a love song about a yeast infection.
>
>Chills up my spine for sure. . .
>
>Ryan. . .
>
| : P)
RHS
Robert OR Renay
Antti Luode wrote in message <7c1q94$ef4$1...@news.kolumbus.fi>...
: Well.. I forgot.. GNR is not the Pinnacle of Rock. The Pinnacle
:(what ever it means, ive seen word used in this kind of context..)
:of rock comes from Australia.. Its a band that got its name from
:one of the band members sister, who alledgely saw this plate
:on the back of a fridge.. It said. AC DC .. And he told the guys
:hey, aint that a good name for the band.. (urban legend) .. :)
*****AC/DC? ouch! I forget yer still a puppy and never spent
an entire summer listening to Back in Black blasting from every
single car on the road. talk about nightmares! AC/DC has
become a parody of themselves over here. odd, two of the biggest
bands of my youth, AC/DC and Van Halen are comedic now. I
think they almost sold as many albums as Meatloaf.
:
: Those guys could kick ass even relatively short time ago..
:The "Razors Edge" cd from 91 (90).. Was something else.. I used
:to train on this 500 m long hill in the dark in sleet, running it fast
:to the top and then jogging down.. I dont know if I am masochist
:or what.. But even as I could hardly see, and my feet slipped beneath me..
:That good ole ac dc could make me run like a nut..
:AND IT FELT GOOD.. :) Aaa aaa aaa, THUNDER... A aa Aaa
:aa aaa Thunder.. (guitars) .. MAN ..
*****uummmmmm, try, uh, I dunno, Fat Bottomed Girls or Yesterday's
News or something. guess I see your point, though, AC/DC makes
me run, too...the other way. ;) the two concerts they did in Portland
sold out immediately. guess someone's listening to 'em. bet my
graduating class bought the whole floor.
:
: But GNR is cool too... :)
*****they were EVerywhere for awhile. along with Europe and White
Lion and, hell, the guys that Sebastian kid played with. I did dig the
hat Slash wore.
: Page and Coverdle.. Hmmm...
*****Whitesnake Coverdale? Shoulda lived forever on the glory of
Deep Purple. big hair is so 1980.
:
: JR who is Woody Gunthrie? Brother of Adam Sandler? The keyboardist from
:the wedding singer? :)
*****duck, Antti!
:
:A.
:(trying to stay away from coffee)
:(cause I am a bit tired of making a fool of myself while I am
:caffeinated.)
*****switch to gin. no, really.
Dancing Bear
>
> If you folks hate axl, go on, hate him all you want. I think the man has
>made brilliant music (+ he has written great lyrics). If he had wanted only
>to make money he could have toured with GNR until the kingdom come.
This line from Dennis Miller Live a week or so ago:
"...And I think Axl Rose can still carry a tune, well, at least it sounds that
way while he's cleaning my neighbor's pool..."
Greg Jungheim
wrote:
>On 09 Mar 1999 18:32:31 GMT, rso...@aol.comxtratext (RSommo) wrote:
>
>>In article <36e530b2....@news.supernews.com>, xcal...@charm.net (Jody
>>McGinness) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>That's what I always ask myself when they're playing. "What's wrong
>>>with these guys?"
>>>
>>>Don't hit me.
>>>
>>>- Jody
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I wouldn't dream of hitting you, Jody. I'd rather dream about being
>>six or seven years old, coming home after school, to a house filled
>>with sunlight and
>>The Brothers Four
>>The New Christie Minstrels (white bread folk extrordinaire)
>>Johnny Cash
>>Joan Baez
>>Herb Alpert
>>Segovia
>>Burl Ives
>>and all the names I've forgotten.
>> And the house was the last one on base housing, with a big
>>empty field separating it from the flight line, where daddy kept the
>>bombers flying.
>> And the house was clean, had to be. They held surprise inspections.
>> I'm sure there's some music from your childhood that, while you
>>might not choose it now, will always be remembered fondly.
>>
>>Robin
>>(used ta be somebody's child)
>>
>
>hmm... yeah, I guess... peter, paul and mary... I still get a little
>choked up at puff the magic dragon... know what you mean.
>
>- Jody
obpp&msenryu
gettin' so old--
i look like peter
paul & mary
--Senryu Sid
Chicago
March 9, 1999
>
>>
>>
>
Dancing Bear
>
>Trent Reznor doing
>their bad impression of David Bowie?
>
Funniest fucking thing I ever saw was the Reznor/Bowie or as it was
commercialized "NineDavidInchBowieNails" tour. The Thin White Duke
in all his glorious presence singing and you could see the disbelief
in his eyes as he looked down at this writhing hairball screaming (not
singing, but fucking screaming) next to him. It was a freakin' riot.
What was even funnier was the audience. Half were clearly there for
Bowie and the other half wanted the old fart to leave so they could
watch Reznor.
Me? I was there to see both. Like watching oil and water.
Okay, a little more Bowie than Reznor. I saw NineInchNails during the
first Lallapoluza tour. I'd seen Bowie during the Sound+Vision tour,
but I can watch or listen to Bowie repeatedly.
diamond jim
wrote:
>>NO Ms. Robin, it must be hip/and/or/cool by standards set by Wired
>>magazine!
>
>I'd have been hard pressed to think of the name of that magazine.
no wonder...children(he rolls his eyes)
>you are what you listen to! GET with the 90's before the
>>90's are done with you (which means by the time you get with it, it
>>will have passed on to something equally as shallow, no, more shallow!
>
>Youth is shallow. Age is deep.
i assume you were trying to make a point instead of stating the
obvious? (i love it when the children discover the obvious)
>Nevermind that my Grandmother thinks
>the sun rises and sets on Bobby Goldsboro's ass.
more honest than that pretentious wannabe Reznor. more heart than all
your little laughable garage bands put together. sure, Bobbie's a
schmaltzy, Vegas lounge act, but's he's an honest schmaltzy Vegas
lounge act. maybe grandmother's on to something there son.
>>that's it! i have discovered the plan! make everything SO shallow that
>>it becomes deep! three consultants at Arthur Anderson thought that one
>>up! onward Wall Street's soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross
>>of JP Morgan, burning forever more!)!
>
>Jesus... do you know what you sound like,
one man crying in the wildernes like John the Baptist?
>preaching how all young
>tastes are shallow and unworthy compared with what there was when you
>were a kid?
(i love it when the children discover the obvious)
>You sound like your parents.
i like my parents. my parents worked hard their whole lives. they
worked harder in one month than both you and i are gonna work in our
lifetimes. my dad drove a big ol' oily truck for 40 years and my mom
fed the five thousand for the same amount of time working for social
services. i used to make fun of my parents, until i realize how hard
they worked and the values they possess. i owe my parents a lot, i owe
my parent's generation a lot. we all do.
and jody, please do not use my parents in the form of a negative
again, okay? thank you.
>Everyone's parents.
cause they're just so uncool, right?
>And
>stereotypically parent-like parents at that.
of course.
>I'm tired.
maybe it's time for your nap?
a nation of whores.
love and kisses,
diamond jim
diamond jim
wrote:
>> at least they could harmonize. something that most groups can no
>> longer do.
>
>I suppose they can. But so can dogs braying at the moon, with a little
>luck.
perhaps you're right. speaking of dogs braying, i haven't seen you
post to amanda today.... ???
Dancing Bear
rso...@aol.comxtratext says...
See now that's what's missing from tv today. The Tony Orlando and Dawn Show.
If anyone can do it, INtheSink [sic] or the Backstreet Boys could. Hell, they
might even be the next ShaNaNa show. :)
Dancing Bear
rso...@aol.comxtratext says...
>
>In article <36e57cde....@news.supernews.com>, xcal...@charm.net (Jody
>McGinness) writes:
>
>>
>>hmm... yeah, I guess... peter, paul and mary... I still get a little
>>choked up at puff the magic dragon... know what you mean.
>>
>>- Jody
>>
>
>R.
What about the Wreavers?!? All this talk of old folkies and no one
mentions the Wreavers.
Why when I was a boy, we used to trudge through the prehistoric swamps
in snowshoes, just because we could. And we'd go to the record store,
and buy our big ol' vinyl disks that you had to record on the first
playing before your phonograph ruined it.
Damn these youths! Why I'd beat them with my cane if they'd just slow
down.
Where's ma damn snowshoes!
...Why do you talk such stupid nonsense
When my mind could rest much easier
Instead of all this dumb dumb insolence
I would be happier with amnesia...
-Elvis Costello, "Riot Act"
<you can read me the riot act>
Dancing Bear
>
>
>*****AC/DC? ouch! I forget yer still a puppy and never spent
>an entire summer listening to Back in Black blasting from every
>single car on the road. talk about nightmares! AC/DC has
>become a parody of themselves over here. odd, two of the biggest
>bands of my youth, AC/DC and Van Halen are comedic now. I
>think they almost sold as many albums as Meatloaf.
Remember: BOC is playing at the Edge soon.
That's Blue Oyster Cult, younguns. Soft White Underbelly to those
in the know.
AlphaOmegaK9 ThePittttBull
Dancing Bear,
"What a stupid fucking thing to say," Dancing Bear.
You sound like an "Ignorant Slut" or sumth'n !
What a "fuckstupid" ......... an editor in Chief of what?! ghawd
have mercy.
CREDIT for the above quotations:
"What a stupid fucking thing to say" = R Westermyer, a respected man, a
published poet. "Ignorant Slut" = L Marek, a long time cyberspace writer
and teacher.
"fuckstupid" = j r Sherman, a long time cyberspace writer and teacher.
"Some seem slower to learn,
but i say, even the slow to learn
should have the right to learn" GSI
"funniest fucking thing i ever saw" was a
bear dancing on his head for the three
ring circus of "fuckstupids".
wwWWROF!
Dancing Bear
AlphaA...@webtv.net says...
>
>
>Dancing Bear,
>
>"What a stupid fucking thing to say," Dancing Bear.
>You sound like an "Ignorant Slut" or sumth'n !
>What a "fuckstupid" ......... an editor in Chief of what?! ghawd
>have mercy.
Oh yeah. I forgot. The old G used to say God, or Chirst or
evoke some image to that effect.
j r sherman
>
>
>Yada yada yada, this goes nowhere.
yeah, that's gabe's out too.
>Your opinion of my whole generation
>(as if any group that large can fairly be generalized) is typical.
justified???
>So
>what, every generation that is in the process of passing it's prime
>has looked at it's succesor disdainfully.
okay, i'll wait ten years for your apology.
>One interesting thing is
>that - and you may disagree - I think my generation (Xer's) is a lot
>less likely to revere their parents and respect them than yours.
well, until you grow up, right? ten years, i'll wait. you guys are busy right
now.
>Maybe
>your parent's were in the last generally hard-working generation.
perhaps.
>It
>doesn't seem, from a broad perspective, as if our parents have a)had
>to work as hard, or b) chosen to do so. Maybe not. I dunno.
i don't know how old your parents are jody. have they ever been laid off? what
does your dad or mom do now? do they work for a large company that needs to stay
on the suicide track of making sure they keep stockholders happy by cutting more
and more bodies to inflate the stock. if your dad or mom are in their late 40's,
early 50's they're prime candidates for downsizing. it ain't easy to get a job
at that age. it ain't easy seeing a man have to deliver pizza at 55. i've seen
that, didn't like it. hope you're parents don't have to do that so that they can
get to retirement without too much worry.
>You always
>hear statements (and this might have been pertaining to boomers) like
>"this is the first generation that isn't going to be as succesful as
>the one before"
i've heard that more from xer's, as if somewhere there's a compact with god that
everything has to get better and better, no matter what.. that they're owed a
better lifestyle than their parents.
>Awful things, generalizations. Should be reserved for
>bigots and sociologists.
strange thing about some generalizations, they sometimes end up being true.
curious, that.
love and kisses,
j r sherman
j r sherman
says...
>Yeah....something what he said...what? Dogs braying?
>Is this slyly calling me a bitch?
not at all.
>grrr,
>Amanda-deserving of braying and being called a bitch once in awhile.
not at all,
Dancing Bear
>
>In article <29051-36...@newsd-224.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
>AlphaA...@webtv.net says...
>>
>>
>>Dancing Bear,
>>
>>"What a stupid fucking thing to say," Dancing Bear.
>>You sound like an "Ignorant Slut" or sumth'n !
>>What a "fuckstupid" ......... an editor in Chief of what?! ghawd
>>have mercy.
>
>Oh yeah. I forgot. The old G used to say God, or Chirst or
>evoke some image to that effect.
And he used to say "mercy" alot too.
j r sherman
>I think I should just be quiet and let him talk.
>
>- Jody
about time.
Robert OR Renay
Antti Luode wrote in message <7c4n6g$r27$1...@news.kolumbus.fi>...
:Robert OR Renay kirjoitti viestissä
By the by.. When the thunderstrike
:was made.. Those guys were over fourty.. But rocking like
:they were in their twenties..
*****that's because Bon Scott sold his soul
to the devil in return for fame and fortune...
(oh come ON, I'm not the only one who
remembers this!)
Renay
(best damn woman that you've ever seen)
Redclay 6
big and then everyone said they were there from the first. >>
lawd, ra-raem.
lawd, lawd.
saw em fore ether one us was famous.
same year, they was the bess, an the wust
the fox the-ater, in lanna, look up, an they IS the moon, an the stars, painted
to move, an a red vel-vet crutain heaviern australia.
dark harmonies, an faulkner,ifn he was pej-jee-eated.
byrds in the shadows, an they was stantin w/ a hant over they hart,
an dancin, i swear.
fore it, i descended on my frens, w/ tickets, i had seen of em in a chuch in
hathens, an bars more, i daysended, i tolt em its new in a purty package, so
purty you done mine whats hangin on, drap you jaw ramones an misfits new, new
like the beatles come over the ocean on a sagggin front porch, w/ mud on they
shoes. hell, id see englandbert humpladink in the fox, an hed sount good, here
we got some sothron boys callin out a dancin tune.
i was ridin inna a car, i hert them box cars turnin, made em pull over an turn
the enjine off, never herd nothin so damn dark, thet made me want to dance,
not so sothron, hell, it was like goin out to dig a ditch behint of the
smokehouse, an finenin the fambly salilver, buriet out back. we was whirvin
dervishes, sweat-spranaklin everbody, dancin till we couldnut.
boy i din hartly know, but he was big as a 3-fambly outhouse, an twice as
smart, could drive a tractor fore he could crawl, his famblyed still smell like
the fields, 3 genermyrations after he was gone, an he was sittin splay-legged,
an leanin on a bottle, an cryin, like he din care who saw him.
out loud, an coughin. an i asted, he was ahrite, an he lookt at me from
underthewater, an he sed, "i miss it." an i asted him, you miss what, son?
an he sed, "i dunno, but, lawd, i miss it." thets the ra-raem when theys hittin
all 8, they make a sothron boy miss somethin he ain ever seen an din know what
was gone.
an bad, lawd. saw em at the fielt ther football fielt, fer free, an they was
the drunkess ones there, drunkern 10 er 12 fraternaties, an they trucked in big
boys to defend they kegs out there, like they was a castle, drunkern 2 days off
an 20 dollars, they couldnut keep time w/ a stopwatch an a startin gun, they
was so off key, they woulda had to break back in the house with a brick, they
was even all playin a diffrant song, all them, an fallin over all the time, an
roadies layin on the steps like red crarpet. lawd, they was bad.
even bad was bettern somebody elsets bess, then. but lawd, they was bad.
an i know bad, i seen journey, an eddie money, an brian wilson loose his lunch
all overn the front row.
Antti Luode
Dancing Bear <bear_d...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> This line from Dennis Miller Live a week or so ago:
>
> "...And I think Axl Rose can still carry a tune, well, at least it sounds that
> way while he's cleaning my neighbor's pool..."
>
> -Dancing Bear
Yeah.. The man has a fight ahead of him.. He has to prove himself..
It could well be that he'll fail.. But I dont know.. We'll see.. Axl
has a bad self esteem.. :) AND EVERYBODY IS ALWAYS PICKING ON HIM..
A.
(who found the address w...@geffen.com)
(geffen guys told someone at gnr group not to post into that address..)
http://homestead.dejanews.com/user.anttiluode/index.html
"I have been known to smile when I write."
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Amanda Rachelle Warren
> On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:58:12 -0500, Jody McGinness <xcal...@charm.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >> at least they could harmonize. something that most groups can no
> >> longer do.
> >
> >I suppose they can. But so can dogs braying at the moon, with a little
> >luck.
>
> perhaps you're right. speaking of dogs braying, i haven't seen you
> post to amanda today.... ???
>
Yeah....something what he said...what? Dogs braying?
Is this slyly calling me a bitch?
grrr,
Amanda-deserving of braying and being called a bitch once in awhile.
>
> love and kisses,
>
> diamond jim
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> Son, don't be home too late
> Try to get back by eight
> Son, don't wait till the break of day
> 'Cause you know how time fades away
>
> Neil Young
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
"The time has come" the walrus said,
"to talk of many things, of shoes,
and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages
and kings, and why the sea is boiling hot,
and whether pigs have wings."
L.Carroll
Amanda Rachelle Warren
> On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 20:37:33 GMT, xcal...@charm.net (Jody McGinness)
> wrote:
>
>
> >>NO Ms. Robin, it must be hip/and/or/cool by standards set by Wired
> >>magazine!
> >
> >I'd have been hard pressed to think of the name of that magazine.
>
> no wonder...children(he rolls his eyes)
What's WIRED? (Does this mean I am out of the loop?)
>
> >you are what you listen to! GET with the 90's before the
> >>90's are done with you (which means by the time you get with it, it
> >>will have passed on to something equally as shallow, no, more shallow!
> >
> >Youth is shallow. Age is deep.
>
> i assume you were trying to make a point instead of stating the
> obvious? (i love it when the children discover the obvious)
>
> >Nevermind that my Grandmother thinks
> >the sun rises and sets on Bobby Goldsboro's ass.
>
> more honest than that pretentious wannabe Reznor. more heart than all
> your little laughable garage bands put together. sure, Bobbie's a
> schmaltzy, Vegas lounge act, but's he's an honest schmaltzy Vegas
> lounge act. maybe grandmother's on to something there son.
>
> >>that's it! i have discovered the plan! make everything SO shallow that
> >>it becomes deep! three consultants at Arthur Anderson thought that one
> >>up! onward Wall Street's soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross
> >>of JP Morgan, burning forever more!)!
> >
> >Jesus... do you know what you sound like,
>
> one man crying in the wildernes like John the Baptist?
>
he he he!
> >preaching how all young
> >tastes are shallow and unworthy compared with what there was when you
> >were a kid?
>
> (i love it when the children discover the obvious)
>
> >You sound like your parents.
>
> i like my parents. my parents worked hard their whole lives. they
> worked harder in one month than both you and i are gonna work in our
> lifetimes. my dad drove a big ol' oily truck for 40 years and my mom
> fed the five thousand for the same amount of time working for social
> services. i used to make fun of my parents, until i realize how hard
> they worked and the values they possess. i owe my parents a lot, i owe
> my parent's generation a lot. we all do.
>
My parents are cool...they are so cool. They are much cooler than me. My
dad works with big ol'oily oil paints. My mom is COOOOOL! The only person
cooler than my mom is my gramma. My gramma kicks ass! (literally, she's
got a mean left hook...I'll show you the bruises I got for being a
smartass.) My gramma worked in a steel foundry when she was 14, she had
to lie and tell them she was 18. She also worked as a fishseller in
Baltimore, and at a slaughterhouse. When I grow up I wanna be just like
her. SHe got rid of her V8 mustang a couple of years ago...she got way
too many speeding tickets in it. This year she will be 57...again. (she
is actually either 73 or 75...she can't remember...I love that! She says
it don't matter anyways as long as she gets birthday presents.) My gramma
collects shot glasses...she has over 400. I am babbling...point is...SHE
IS SOOO COOL!
> and jody, please do not use my parents in the form of a negative
> again, okay? thank you.
>
> >Everyone's parents.
>
> cause they're just so uncool, right?
>
> >And
> >stereotypically parent-like parents at that.
>
> of course.
>
> >I'm tired.
>
> maybe it's time for your nap?
>
>
>
> a nation of whores.
>
>
OH, man, and I thought I was one of the good kids, now I find out I'm a
whore. Oh well.
all love and kisses,
Amanda
Antti Luode
>*****AC/DC? ouch! I forget yer still a puppy and never spent
>an entire summer listening to Back in Black blasting from every
>single car on the road. talk about nightmares! AC/DC has
>become a parody of themselves over here. odd, two of the
Even a bible has become a parody.. But the thing is..
AC DC was (I dont expect them to rock as grandpas) a
great band.. Ride on.. Hells Bells.. If I could make music
like that and perform it on a stadium full of screaming people
with few good guys.. My head would probably explode.. It
would be THAT cool.. :) By the by.. When the thunderstrike
was made.. Those guys were over fourty.. But rocking like
they were in their twenties..
>biggest
>bands of my youth, AC/DC and Van Halen are comedic now. I
>think they almost sold as many albums as Meatloaf.
They are comedic TO YOU.. Not to me, and many other people.. I guess it
is a testosterone thing.. Music serves
a purpose.. In this case.. It helps to tunnel out the anger, frustration of
men.. :)
>: But GNR is cool too... :)
>
>*****they were EVerywhere for awhile. along with Europe and White
>Lion and, hell, the guys that Sebastian kid played with. I did dig >the
>hat Slash wore.
He still wears em hats.. And just threw gigs nearby you..
(with the snakepit) .. People say they had one there..
>Deep Purple. big hair is so 1980.
90 00 10 50 2970 3504
sfw.. We have hardly changed for like.. Eons.. Things
have been forgotten and refound.. Ten years is nothing.. If
you look at life from a larger perspective.. (I admit, I just
watched a program about pharaos from Discovery.. :))
>:
>: JR who is Woody Gunthrie? Brother of Adam Sandler? The keyboardist
from
>:the wedding singer? :)
>
>*****duck, Antti!
Noo.. I dont have to.
A.
xcal...@charm.net
>On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:58:12 -0500, Jody McGinness <xcal...@charm.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>>> at least they could harmonize. something that most groups can no
>>> longer do.
>>
>>I suppose they can. But so can dogs braying at the moon, with a little
>>luck.
>
>perhaps you're right. speaking of dogs braying, i haven't seen you
>post to amanda today.... ???
Oh.
I think I should just be quiet and let him talk.
- Jody
>
>
xcal...@charm.net
Yada yada yada, this goes nowhere. Your opinion of my whole generation
(as if any group that large can fairly be generalized) is typical. So
what, every generation that is in the process of passing it's prime
that - and you may disagree - I think my generation (Xer's) is a lot
your parent's were in the last generally hard-working generation. It
doesn't seem, from a broad perspective, as if our parents have a)had
hear statements (and this might have been pertaining to boomers) like
"this is the first generation that isn't going to be as succesful as
bigots and sociologists.
Again. i think Reznor is a hack.
- Jody
On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 22:52:04 GMT, jr...@pge.com (diamond jim) wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 20:37:33 GMT, xcal...@charm.net (Jody McGinness)
>wrote:
>
>
>>>NO Ms. Robin, it must be hip/and/or/cool by standards set by Wired
>>>magazine!
>>
>>I'd have been hard pressed to think of the name of that magazine.
>
>no wonder...children(he rolls his eyes)
>
>>you are what you listen to! GET with the 90's before the
>>>90's are done with you (which means by the time you get with it, it
>>>will have passed on to something equally as shallow, no, more shallow!
>>
>>Youth is shallow. Age is deep.
>
>i assume you were trying to make a point instead of stating the
>obvious? (i love it when the children discover the obvious)
>
>>Nevermind that my Grandmother thinks
>>the sun rises and sets on Bobby Goldsboro's ass.
>
>more honest than that pretentious wannabe Reznor. more heart than all
>your little laughable garage bands put together. sure, Bobbie's a
>schmaltzy, Vegas lounge act, but's he's an honest schmaltzy Vegas
>lounge act. maybe grandmother's on to something there son.
>
>>>that's it! i have discovered the plan! make everything SO shallow that
>>>it becomes deep! three consultants at Arthur Anderson thought that one
>>>up! onward Wall Street's soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross
>>>of JP Morgan, burning forever more!)!
>>
>>Jesus... do you know what you sound like,
>
>one man crying in the wildernes like John the Baptist?
>
>>preaching how all young
>>tastes are shallow and unworthy compared with what there was when you
>>were a kid?
>
>(i love it when the children discover the obvious)
>
>>You sound like your parents.
>
>i like my parents. my parents worked hard their whole lives. they
>worked harder in one month than both you and i are gonna work in our
>lifetimes. my dad drove a big ol' oily truck for 40 years and my mom
>fed the five thousand for the same amount of time working for social
>services. i used to make fun of my parents, until i realize how hard
>they worked and the values they possess. i owe my parents a lot, i owe
>my parent's generation a lot. we all do.
>
>and jody, please do not use my parents in the form of a negative
>again, okay? thank you.
>
>>Everyone's parents.
>
>cause they're just so uncool, right?
>
>>And
>>stereotypically parent-like parents at that.
>
>of course.
>
>>I'm tired.
>
>maybe it's time for your nap?
>
>
>
>a nation of whores.
>
>
>
Jim Standish
> why so upset? i didn't call you asshole.
I guess I should be thankful for small favors :-)
Best,
Jim
Jim Standish
> What about the Weavers?!? All this talk of old folkies and no one
> mentions the Weavers.
I thought we were talkin about country music. And then rock. Now it's
folk, huh? Lemme tellya bout folk. PP&M ain't in the picture. They're
to folk what FM country is to real country.
Diamond Jim mentioned Burl Ives. Yes!! He was _it_!
Pete Seeger. New Lost City Ramblers. Cynthia Gooding & Theo Bikel. Ed
McCurdy. Susan Reed. Field recordings throughout the American South by
Alan Lomax. Odetta. Josh White. Ramblin' Jack Elliott. Peggy Seeger
& Ewan McColl. Oscar Brand. Richard Dyer-Bennet. Oh, the 50's were a
great time for folk music--real folk music, before PP&M, the Kingston
Trio, etc came along and bastardized it. And even ol' Burl went
mainstream (gag).
I'd mention Woody Guthrie butI think D.Jim has done so already.
And yes, Bear, the Weavers, very definitely.
Best,
Jim
Jim Standish
> Jim,
> You enscapulated so very well.
> I taste the pablum and wonder why
> it gags me. You clarified the issue.
> The recent shit is vanilla ice cream
> and would not fertilize my mushrooms.
Thanks, Jeanne
Best,
Jim
Jim Standish
> okay, here's a few off the top o' my old-but-gladly-not-yet-dead head:
<snip>
Heaven help me, I forgot Lefty Frizzell, Bob Wills, & Rose Maddox. How
many Hail Hanks is that?
Best,
Jim
Amzug
Your opinion of my whole generation
>(as if any group that large can fairly be generalized) is typical.
and then went on to write:
I think my generation (Xer's) is a lot
>less likely to revere their parents and respect them than yours.
Uh, hello?
<snip>
Robert OR Renay
Jim Standish wrote in message <1dodde5.1kz...@pool013-cvx.ds51-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net>...
:Heaven help me, I forgot Lefty Frizzell, Bob Wills, & Rose Maddox. How
:many Hail Hanks is that?
*****holyshit! you remember Rose Maddox?
my grandmother dated one of the Brothers.
add Jimmy Patton to the list, too. I forgot
him last time.
Bluuuuuuue Darlin' you're the only, oooonly one
Renay
Robert OR Renay
Jim Standish wrote in message <1dofha3.1c9...@pool013-cvx.ds51-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net>...
:Pete Seeger. New Lost City Ramblers. Cynthia Gooding & Theo Bikel. Ed
McCurdy. Susan Reed. Field recordings throughout the American South by
Alan Lomax. Odetta. Josh White. Ramblin' Jack Elliott. Peggy Seeger
& Ewan McColl. Oscar Brand. Richard Dyer-Bennet. Oh, the 50's were a
great time for folk music--real folk music, before PP&M, the Kingston
Trio, etc came along and bastardized it. And even ol' Burl went
mainstream (gag).
*****a couple years ago Ryan turned me on to Stan Rogers. yay!
Renay
Jody McGinness
>In article <36e60b8...@news.supernews.com>, xcal...@charm.net says...
>>
>>
>>Yada yada yada, this goes nowhere.
>
>yeah, that's gabe's out too.
Hey. Say what you want about me and my family. But don't compare me to
Gabe.
>
>>Your opinion of my whole generation
>>(as if any group that large can fairly be generalized) is typical.
>
>justified???
Perhaps.
>
>>So
>>what, every generation that is in the process of passing it's prime
>>has looked at it's succesor disdainfully.
>
>okay, i'll wait ten years for your apology.
And I'm willing to admit it might be forthcoming, I can only work on
what I've learned so far.
>
>>One interesting thing is
>>that - and you may disagree - I think my generation (Xer's) is a lot
>>less likely to revere their parents and respect them than yours.
>
>well, until you grow up, right? ten years, i'll wait. you guys are busy right
>now.
See, I was thinking about that. And I don't know if my perspective
will change when I "grow up". I think it's less likely than in the
generation before. I mean, I'm aware enough to realize that my mother
busted her ass to stay afloat so that I could have a decent life. Or
not. One could say that she failed her responsibility by getting
knocked up when she was in no situation to provide for a child. She
tried, for about 12 years, when she wasn't an impatient, but
eventually had to pass the responsibility on to a non-profit school
for children of broken homes. So, she made the right decision, in
giving up her child when she couldn't provide a decent life for him,
and that I already respect and admire. I don't think my relationship
with her will change appreciably.
>
>>Maybe
>>your parent's were in the last generally hard-working generation.
>
>perhaps.
>
>>It
>>doesn't seem, from a broad perspective, as if our parents have a)had
>>to work as hard, or b) chosen to do so. Maybe not. I dunno.
>
>i don't know how old your parents are jody. have they ever been laid off? what
>does your dad or mom do now? do they work for a large company that needs to stay
>on the suicide track of making sure they keep stockholders happy by cutting more
>and more bodies to inflate the stock. if your dad or mom are in their late 40's,
>early 50's they're prime candidates for downsizing. it ain't easy to get a job
>at that age. it ain't easy seeing a man have to deliver pizza at 55. i've seen
>that, didn't like it. hope you're parents don't have to do that so that they can
>get to retirement without too much worry.
My mother is forty-four. My father is 52. She works at a factory in
rural missouri managing a group of mentally retarded workers. He is
(last time I heard from him) a photojournalist for the national guard.
But I was speaking of the generation in general. Part of the breakdown
of family values idea.
>
>>You always
>>hear statements (and this might have been pertaining to boomers) like
>>"this is the first generation that isn't going to be as succesful as
>>the one before"
>
>i've heard that more from xer's, as if somewhere there's a compact with god that
>everything has to get better and better, no matter what.. that they're owed a
>better lifestyle than their parents.
Maybe not owed. But it wouldn't be too much to give my children, if I
could.
>
>>Awful things, generalizations. Should be reserved for
>>bigots and sociologists.
>
>strange thing about some generalizations, they sometimes end up being true.
Normally. General truth is easy. It's when you start getting specific
that things get messy.
- Jody
>
>curious, that.
Jody McGinness
>xcal...@charm.net wrote:
>
>Your opinion of my whole generation
>>(as if any group that large can fairly be generalized) is typical.
>
>and then went on to write:
>
>I think my generation (Xer's) is a lot
>>less likely to revere their parents and respect them than yours.
>
>Uh, hello?
Hello.
I began by pointing out that generalizations are unfair.
Then I began to generalize.
Whassamater, you never seen hypocrisy before?
I just meant to say that I don't like generalizing about whole groups,
not that I wasn't going to do it for the sake of the discussion.
picky picky,
- Jody
>
><snip>
Jody McGinness
>In article <Pine.OSF.3.93.99030...@oak.cats.ohiou.edu>, Amanda
>says...
>
>>Yeah....something what he said...what? Dogs braying?
>>Is this slyly calling me a bitch?
>
>not at all.
>
>>grrr,
>>Amanda-deserving of braying and being called a bitch once in awhile.
>
>not at all,
>
>love and kisses,
>
>j r sherman
He was talking about me.
- Jody (being very meek now)
Amanda Rachelle Warren
> In article <Pine.OSF.3.93.99030...@oak.cats.ohiou.edu>, Amanda
> says...
>
> >Yeah....something what he said...what? Dogs braying?
> >Is this slyly calling me a bitch?
>
> not at all.
maybe it should be...I have a nice streak ( I was gonna say I had an evil
streak...but really it seems to work opposite in me...must be the
caffine.)
>
> >grrr,
> >Amanda-deserving of braying and being called a bitch once in awhile.
>
> not at all,
>
I accept your love and kisses...but think that maybe I deserve some
braying once in a while. Or at least somebody to buy me a drink.
It is good,
Amanda
> love and kisses,
>
> j r sherman
>
>
Isolde....@virtvill.com
JR>>Amanda Rachelle Warren kirjoitti viestissä ...
JR>>BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN , JOHN MELLENCAMP, LENNY KRAVIZ, STING, U2, MARC COHN ..
JR>>Argh.. Jr.. What are you saying..
JR>i'm letting you children amuse yourselves.
JR>>BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
JR>at least he's original.
JR>>JOHN MELLENCAMP
JR>one of the best lyrics writers living. i always love arguing
JR>Mellancamp with people because i so easily win.
JR>>LENNY KRAVIZ
JR>don't make me laugh antii.
JR>>STING
JR>the police were a good band. on his own he couldn't write an original
JR>song to save his life. he can't act either.
JR>>U2
JR>pop was a strange album. u2 went to germany and produced a
JR>masterpiece, then got lost somewhere.
JR>>MARC COHN
JR>well, it's not elevator music.
JR>love and kisses,
JR>j r sherman
Question for you, j r...
What do you think of Johnny Lang?
Greg Jungheim
Standish) wrote:
>Dancing Bear <bear_d...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What about the Weavers?!? All this talk of old folkies and no one
>> mentions the Weavers.
>
>I thought we were talkin about country music. And then rock. Now it's
>folk, huh? Lemme tellya bout folk. PP&M ain't in the picture. They're
>to folk what FM country is to real country.
>
>Diamond Jim mentioned Burl Ives. Yes!! He was _it_!
>
>Pete Seeger. New Lost City Ramblers. Cynthia Gooding & Theo Bikel. Ed
>McCurdy. Susan Reed. Field recordings throughout the American South by
>Alan Lomax. Odetta. Josh White. Ramblin' Jack Elliott. Peggy Seeger
>& Ewan McColl. Oscar Brand. Richard Dyer-Bennet. Oh, the 50's were a
>great time for folk music--real folk music, before PP&M, the Kingston
>Trio, etc came along and bastardized it. And even ol' Burl went
>mainstream (gag).
>
>I'd mention Woody Guthrie butI think D.Jim has done so already.
>
>And yes, Bear, the Weavers, very definitely.
>
>Best,
>Jim
Amen Jim,
I wuz wonna dem 50's folkies segueing right out of Randy Blake's
Suppertime Frolics on WJJD, National Barn Dance on WLS and into
Josh White, Pete Seeger, Weavers et you named a lot of them. It was
my pleasure to meet Josh White at a Northwestern U. offcampus "hoot"
where he played my guitar because it was the only one with nylon
strings (his fingers were hurting). I counted the late great Bob
Gibson a friend and attended the first annual University of Chicago
Folk Festival in 1960. Just finished listening to a Big Bill Broonzy
CD, (my man!) Doze were da daze!
--Greg
>
Greg Jungheim
Standish) wrote:
>Dancing Bear <bear_d...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What about the Weavers?!? All this talk of old folkies and no one
>> mentions the Weavers.
>
>I thought we were talkin about country music. And then rock. Now it's
>folk, huh? Lemme tellya bout folk. PP&M ain't in the picture. They're
>to folk what FM country is to real country.
>
>Diamond Jim mentioned Burl Ives. Yes!! He was _it_!
>
>Pete Seeger. New Lost City Ramblers. Cynthia Gooding & Theo Bikel. Ed
>McCurdy. Susan Reed. Field recordings throughout the American South by
>Alan Lomax. Odetta. Josh White. Ramblin' Jack Elliott. Peggy Seeger
>& Ewan McColl. Oscar Brand. Richard Dyer-Bennet. Oh, the 50's were a
>great time for folk music--real folk music, before PP&M, the Kingston
>Trio, etc came along and bastardized it. And even ol' Burl went
>mainstream (gag).
>
>I'd mention Woody Guthrie butI think D.Jim has done so already.
>
>And yes, Bear, the Weavers, very definitely.
>
>Best,
>Jim
p.s. The Midnight Special on WFMT Chicago (Saturday 10:30 p.m.-12:00
a.m.) has recapped the folk music era for at least 35 years! Is it
syndicated to the West Coast?
--Greg
>
Jim Standish
> p.s. The Midnight Special on WFMT Chicago (Saturday 10:30 p.m.-12:00
> a.m.) has recapped the folk music era for at least 35 years! Is it
> syndicated to the West Coast?
> --Greg
Maybe, but nobody's told _me_ about it. Back in 1959-60 there was a
program by that name on KPFA (the original Pacifica station, before it
became a chain). It was actually on at midnight, and was a
nearly-open-mike live show. Me & my fiancee were regular audience
members. I always ambished to perform on it, but figured you had to be
good with a guitar, and I never could get beyond basic 3-chord
strumming. Malvina Reynolds was a frequent participant; first heard
Little Boxes there.
Best--Jim
Jim Standish
> Amen Jim,
> I wuz wonna dem 50's folkies segueing right out of Randy Blake's
> Suppertime Frolics on WJJD, National Barn Dance on WLS and into
> Josh White, Pete Seeger, Weavers et you named a lot of them. It was
> my pleasure to meet Josh White at a Northwestern U. offcampus "hoot"
> where he played my guitar because it was the only one with nylon
> strings (his fingers were hurting). I counted the late great Bob
> Gibson a friend and attended the first annual University of Chicago
> Folk Festival in 1960. Just finished listening to a Big Bill Broonzy
> CD, (my man!) Doze were da daze!
>
> --Greg
Lord forgive me, I forgot Big Bill. I'm gonna hafta find that CD! Also
Leadbelly, Jean Ritchie, Brownie & Terry, & there's somebody else who
keeps flitting in&out of my memory. Gettin old. That's okay; as they
say, it beats the alternative. There was a couple of guys whose names
escape me, who played at a club named the Abbey or sumpm like that in
Paris. Wonderful record; I'd love to run into that one again. Ah, if
only I could have back every book & record I ever owned, and a mansion
to keep'm in! I also remember a fine 10-inch LP of field recordings
from Nova Scotia; wonder if Joy and/or Ryan would know of it. Nah;
prolly out-o-print before they were even born :(.
Best, Jim