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RE: is there a publisher in the house ?

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Robert Morpheal

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Sep 13, 2020, 8:59:05 PM9/13/20
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Is there a publisher in the house ?

After 30 years of Usenet, Internet, I really do need a real publisher.
That is a lot of poetry. More than I have a count of. I know it fills about two dozen three ring binders, and then some. Printed two columns per page. Though I confess to neither being much of an editor, nor a publisher myself. Those are very specialized skills and different experiences to mine. There are various factors making various demands on me, and I feel that need to see my collected works into some sort of safe keeping.

Nom de plumes have changed across the years.
Poetry appeared under various names.

Storm (Early 1990s.)
Morpheal
Robert Morpheal
Bob Ezergailis

I can be contacted at robertm...@gmail.com

George J. Dance

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Sep 19, 2020, 3:02:29 PM9/19/20
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Are you sure you want to publish your collected works all at once? Given your proficiency as Robert Morpheal, I'd expect that book to run to more than 1,000 pages. I think you'd be better off, if you want your collected works in print, to print them in a multi-volume edition.

A very good way to do that is to publish them on Amazon Kindle Direct Publishers - not only will they publish your book in both print and Kindle form, but they'll list them on Amazon.com. All it will cost you is the price of a couple of preview or author's copies - less than $20 - per volume.

Even if they don't sell to the public, you can buy your own copies at the low 'author copy' rate - $5 each or so - to give to your family, send to reviewers, etc. In addition, having your works in print gives you a stronger proof of copyright, if needed. It will lower the price magazines will pay you to print your works, but I don't think any of us here expect to get rich on *that*.

I helped Will Dockery do that last year. We're both happy with the result:
https://www.amazon.ca/Selected-Poems-1976-2019-Will-Dockery/dp/0994860013

Will Dockery

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Sep 19, 2020, 3:43:15 PM9/19/20
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Agreed, a "Selected Poems" volume is the way to go.

Will Dockery

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Sep 19, 2020, 4:27:02 PM9/19/20
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On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 3:02:29 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
By the way, Robert, this is a good tome to invite you over to the other poetry group, less spam and slightly more active:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.arts.poetry.comments

Peter J Ross

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Sep 25, 2020, 2:41:34 PM9/25/20
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Dear Bob,

You'll remember from ancient days of yore that I (like all competent
readers) regard you and your "poems" with contempt, but I don't
dislike you enough to want you to fall into the clutches of the
scammer who calls himself "George J. Dance".

Dunce (as he is better known) has been offering to "help" unpublished
authors for years, but has only ever helped himself.

A few years ago, I exposed Dunce's methods by posing as an innocent
"poet" named Julius P Wyatt. Dunce offered to publish poor Julius, but
not to pay him. When "Julius" hesitated, Dunce tried to put him under
pressure by imposing a deadline.

Dunce is also a proven plagiarist, who has been caught passing off
poems by Leonard Cohen and others as his own work.

I suggest that you avoid Dunce's "help" like the Bubonic Coronavirus
of Doom.

If you want your "poems" to be professionally printed, you'll have to
pay quite a lot of money (thousands of dollars rather than hundreds),
and having them professionally collected and edited before printing
will probably cost much more (perhaps tens of thousands).

It might be wiser to abandon your delusion that you're a poetical and
philosophical genius.

Good luck!



--
PJR :-)

μεγάλη ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ὑπερισχύει.
- Esdras A 4.41

George J. Dance

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Sep 28, 2020, 9:51:43 PM9/28/20
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It sounds like he's more interested in getting a print archive of everything. he's written, which is more in line with the earliest project you and I talked about , a multi-volume collected works (which we eventually gave up, figuring it might never be done).

Well, now he has a couple of options: either self-publish (in which case he's not going to be paid unless he sells copies), or pay Piggy Ross and his associate "tens of thousands of dollars" to publish them for him.
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