What Happened..
Lmdelsanto
to be...The language does not belong here.
Where is Marek?
Angel
Tom Bishop
In my reader here is what happened.
pandora the wonder troll was pick, pick, picking at chuckie,
(and showing him et al through my killfile just
to harass me personally, [verified telepathically])
Then she posted "DOWN BY THE RIVER".
I, assuming someone with a Neil Young fetish was killing
pandora, rushed into the post, only to find this tiny prose
thing, which I commented on.
WELL, pandora just hasn't been the same since,
and then another prose slinger, that ever feisty
"beaten but not slurred" salsa buffoon, texmex
jumps in with the wrath of his burr-lined jockstrap.
Of course Mikey the general purpose fraud and
impersonator is fantasizing about my kinky picture sets,
but not very well.
Then there is this contest in aapc (using 6 forbidden words)
so I combined that with a few frond farewells to pandora,
isn't it a shame she's grieving?
Oh, I posted a segment from Paradise Lost that describes
me. Heh. (that was the best poetry of the day)
How about you?
Will you be my Usenet friend?
You inspired me last year, remember?
I just don't know why so many people are going
gravy. Perhaps it's the full June.
--
Tom Bishop -- http://Poetry.Here.Nu
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever."
-- Napoleon Bonaparte
"Lmdelsanto" <lmdel...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20030618172105...@mb-m01.aol.com...
david rutkowski
genetics (a topic discussed here recently).
Lmdelsanto wrote:
I think he's busy working on projects. I too miss many of the writers
who used to post here.
>
>
> Angel
>
Tom Bishop
"Tom Bishop" <tom-r...@truly.nu> wrote in message news:bcqu1o$mbqs5$1...@ID-138561.news.dfncis.de...
> Hi Angel,
>
> In my reader here is what happened.
>
> pandora the wonder troll was pick, pick, picking at chuckie,
> (and showing him et al through my killfile just
> to harass me personally, [verified telepathically])
>
> Then she posted "DOWN BY THE RIVER".
>
> I, assuming someone with a Neil Young fetish was killing
> pandora, rushed into the post, only to find this tiny prose
> thing, which I commented on.
Turns out it wasn't prose, I was wrong.
Glad that got cleared up!
Texas Max King
> to be...The language does not belong here.
in this case it's
'kill what you can't eat'
A writer you don't like?
Killfile it.
It becomes a gentler, cleaner RAP . . .
fer instance . . .
I can always keep up with loko the messenger boy
just by reading jr and David R..
Just as I can keep up with the latest delinquent deviance from Tom Bishit
by reading Michael or Dennis or a few others who seem to indulge his idiocy.
See Angel, it's like anything else in life
ya gotta read between the lines.
> Where is Marek?
. . . safe and smart enough not to waste his time
here in the playpen with the pre-k bunch . . .
You want Marek, go visit Garlic Press . . .
I'm sure any of a number of the regs can provide the link.
There is life in poetry beyond RAP ya know?
Luvs,
Max
>
>
> Angel
Dennis Lewis
> Can someone tell me what happened to this poetry group? It is not what it used
> to be...The language does not belong here.
Essentially it just turned to shit under the weight of too many
assholes posting. (pun intended)
The sad part is not all the vitriol but the lack of imagination and
the absolute plainness of the flames. The worst thing which could
happen has happened: it just got boring.
Dennis
who checks in occasionally hoping someone has posted a poem
Marek W. Lugowski
I'm taking a little vacation from rap, but I am ok, and sheila miguez is
in nearly daily contact with me so you can always get in touch with me
through her. In fact she alerted me to this post. Sometimes I scan rap.
I hope to resume my Halina Poswiatowska translations any day now.
My much-delayed trip to Europe might have to wait a bit longer -- maybe fall.
Take care...
> Angel
-- Marek
Scott Murphy
A mentally ill person began posting to the group. I don't think the "mad
poster"
had/has enough lights burning in his chandelier to conceive and execute
an intentional troll. Nevertheless, his posts have been the most succesfull
trolls of r.a.p that I've seen. Though my r.a.p acquaintence is only six
or seven years long, I never saw anyone who combined venom, dishonesty,
and persistance in so effective a way. The interminable threads inspired and
fed by the mad poster swamp the poetry and drain the energy that might
go into dialog on topics that don't feed the M.P.'s narcissism.
My news client can filter M.P. threads, though it requires a bit of
maintenance.
Like any spammer's, his headers slowly mutate. But even filtered, I've found
that
what's left of the r.a.p newsfeed is still a bit contaminated by the M.P. He
seems
to be like one of those spots on a potato that turns out to make the whole
spud black inside.
Poetry is hard to write, and harder to read and comment upon. It's ever so
much
easier to play with a head case. That's my theory of how r.a.p became
r.a.m.p -- rec.arts.mad.poster.
As for Marek? I very much hope he's alive, well, chasing girlz, and catching
some.
-Murphy
Tom Bishop
"Scott Murphy" <murp...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:bct7g...@enews2.newsguy.com...
Oh yes, that's it.
--
Tom Bishop -- http://Poetry.Here.Nu
"When it comes to a choice between two evils,
I always choose the one I haven't tried before."
-- Mae West
Beth Gottschalk
<tom-r...@truly.nu> wrote:
> "Scott Murphy" <murp...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:bct7g...@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > What happened? Gresham's law in action.
> >
> > A mentally ill person began posting to the group. I don't think the "mad
> > poster"
> > had/has enough lights burning in his chandelier to conceive and execute
> > an intentional troll. Nevertheless, his posts have been the most succesfull
> > trolls of r.a.p that I've seen. Though my r.a.p acquaintence is only six
> > or seven years long, I never saw anyone who combined venom, dishonesty,
> > and persistance in so effective a way. The interminable threads inspired and
> > fed by the mad poster swamp the poetry and drain the energy that might
> > go into dialog on topics that don't feed the M.P.'s narcissism.
> >
> > My news client can filter M.P. threads, though it requires a bit of
> > maintenance.
> > Like any spammer's, his headers slowly mutate. But even filtered, I've found
> > that
> > what's left of the r.a.p newsfeed is still a bit contaminated by the M.P. He
> > seems
> > to be like one of those spots on a potato that turns out to make the whole
> > spud black inside.
My news reader doesn't have a killfile feature, so I delete things by
hand. This
gets /way/ too time-consuming. I tried to help by encouraging a poster to
concentrate on writing poetry rather than invective, and only antagonized
some of the serious poets. (Sorry, folks!)
Our tradition has been that we "Don't Need a Steenkin' FAQ"虐o it looks as if
we'll either have to change that or be /very/ patient until it all blows
over. If
it ever does.
Several years ago Suzanne Fortin, bless her, called for everyone to post a
poem吉ood or otherwise, but a poem蟻nd it did make a difference. This time,
who knows?
Meantime, I think the only thing we can do is to /totally/ ignore any post that
we'd just as soon not read.
--Beth
Peter J Ross
bf...@sbcglobal.net (Beth Gottschalk) guilty of posting this:
>In article <bctaaa$n4tt6$1...@ID-138561.news.dfncis.de>, "Tom Bishop"
><tom-r...@truly.nu> wrote:
>
>> "Scott Murphy" <murp...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>news:bct7g...@enews2.newsguy.com...
>> > What happened? Gresham's law in action.
>> >
>> > A mentally ill person began posting to the group. I don't think the "mad
>> > poster"
>> > had/has enough lights burning in his chandelier to conceive and execute
>> > an intentional troll. Nevertheless, his posts have been the most succesfull
>> > trolls of r.a.p that I've seen. Though my r.a.p acquaintence is only six
>> > or seven years long, I never saw anyone who combined venom, dishonesty,
>> > and persistance in so effective a way. The interminable threads inspired and
>> > fed by the mad poster swamp the poetry and drain the energy that might
>> > go into dialog on topics that don't feed the M.P.'s narcissism.
>> >
>> > My news client can filter M.P. threads, though it requires a bit of
>> > maintenance.
>> > Like any spammer's, his headers slowly mutate. But even filtered, I've found
>> > that
>> > what's left of the r.a.p newsfeed is still a bit contaminated by the M.P. He
>> > seems
>> > to be like one of those spots on a potato that turns out to make the whole
>> > spud black inside.
>
>My news reader doesn't have a killfile feature, so I delete things by
>hand.
That's because you're too moronic to install a proper newsreader, Ms
Chuckles-Slurper.
>This
>gets /way/ too time-consuming. I tried to help by encouraging a poster to
>concentrate on writing poetry rather than invective,
Yes, you encouraged chuckles to plagiarise more poems, Ms
Chuckles-Slurper.
>and only antagonized
>some of the serious poets. (Sorry, folks!)
Fuck off and die with your insincere apologies, Ms Chuckles-Slurper.
>Our tradition has been that we "Don't Need a Steenkin' FAQ"虐o it looks as if
>we'll either have to change that or be /very/ patient until it all blows
>over. If
>it ever does.
Have you a brain? (Don't bother trying to answer that question. It
will only confuse you, Ms Chuckles-Slurper.)
>Several years ago Suzanne Fortin, bless her,
<yawn>
Now is now, not then. I've been posting poems and comments here for
two and a half years, and I've never heard of Suzanne Fortin and I
don't give a flying fuck what she thinks. Use your own words next
time, Ms Chuckles-slurper.
<unread-snip>
Come back some day when you've acquired a clue.
--
PJR :-)
mhm34x8
http://www.pjr-online.co.uk/
Beth Gottschalk
Ross <gad...@meow.org> wrote:
I've been ignoring Chuck and others for the same reason I'm now going to
ignore you.
DuBain
I do read between the lines, Max. And I have been enjoying you and alot of
our reg RAPPERS, but you know who I mean.
Its just the group seemed dwindling down to a bunch of bullshit artists
and deviant remarks..not that I am prude...I just love the good stuff.
Thanks Max..
DuBain
Looking forward to the "Halina Series"..
Hope things are alright with you, Marek..
thanks and you take care,
love, Angel
DuBain
Hi Tom..
I thought I was your usenet friend. Start musing again.
Poetry are us.
Angel
Texas Max King
"DuBain" <dub...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20030619232147...@mb-m14.aol.com...
. . . always a pleasure, Angel.
I had to make adjustments in my RAP reading habits.
I was out of town for a week (in Florida to open a new bicycle messenger service)
and then I decided to use ye ol killfile . . .
as much as I hate to censor
I had to do it for the sake of creative inspiration
and so as not to have to waste so much time just
to read the 'good stuff'.
Write on , Angel.
-TMK
Peter J Ross
bf...@sbcglobal.net (Beth Gottschalk) guilty of posting this:
>I've been ignoring Chuck and others for the same reason I'm now going to
>ignore you.
Feel free to ignore me from a place where's there's no Internet
connection.
Rik Roots
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:21:02 GMT, a jury from rec.arts.poems found
> bf...@sbcglobal.net (Beth Gottschalk) guilty of posting this:
>
> >I've been ignoring Chuck and others for the same reason I'm now going to
> >ignore you.
>
> Feel free to ignore me from a place where's there's no Internet
> connection.
>
restricting, and will no doubt will lead to complications that will
kill her in due course.
To delay the prospect of death by a few years, her doctor prescribed
beta blockers. They made her feel worse, but that's the price you have
to pay for an extra few years' life in this madness we call planet
earth.
Except for my mother. She made an executive decision - less pain and a
shorter life - and stopped taking the pills. She's happy with her
decision. It's given her an incentive to lose weight, get more
involved in community stuff, take more trips. Enjoy life.
There's no point to this little ramble, except to say that sometimes
the "harsh medicine" is not the cure. It just makes the whole
condition worse.
And I have to say Peter, that with posts like the exchange that
culminated in this invidious little gem, you change from being the
solution to becoming the problem. I wish you well in all you do in the
future - your love of poets and poetry is far stronger than mine will
probably ever be, but there comes a point when even the most open
minded person has to pick up their keyboard and type: "Sir, please
cancel my subscription to your organ forthwith!"
Regretfully,
Rik, knee deep.
---
http://www.kalieda.org/poems/index.html
Pop in for a browse, when you have a moment to spare
Tomble
"DuBain" <dub...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20030619232519...@mb-m14.aol.com...
Did you move?
Well thanks if it's really you.
There is a lot of impersonation.
I decided to go with "Tomble",
which is really a good hue for me,
don't you think?
Here are some "tomble" stones:
http://webplaza.pt.lu/andre/en/23_sugelite.html
Musing...
Maybe... Dark time for me.
Your recent weren't inspiring, content-wise, to my
sense of spring, and the sting. No fence in tented.
Must be hard for you, (assume you are reporting...
death takes a lot out of everybody).
Will summer have more sizzle?
Poetry...
I'm still trying to figure out what poetry is.
(now that my ellipse are improving)
The way I look at it, everything I've written so far
is probably total crap, but if I ever figure out what
poetry is, I can plagiarized all that stuff freely, to
form real poems.
:-)
Texas Max King
"Peter J Ross" stoked his own amusement with:
> Feel free to ignore me from a place where's there's no Internet
> connection.
It's easy to ignore you from just about anywhere on earth.
Does the library know about the little
internet games you play with other peoples accounts?
-Max
Texas Max King
"Tomble" <tombl...@truly.nu> stirred her pitch, black kettle with:
> Here are some "tomble" stones:
> http://webplaza.pt.lu/andre/en/23_sugelite.html
. . . I should've known it . . .
another new age witch . . .
Tomble
"Rik Roots" <r...@kalieda.org> wrote in message news:c76660b9.03062...@posting.google.com...
> Peter J Ross <gad...@meow.org> wrote in message news:<3b2e5bd769157643...@free.teranews.com>...
> > On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:21:02 GMT, a jury from rec.arts.poems found
> > bf...@sbcglobal.net (Beth Gottschalk) guilty of posting this:
> >
> minded person has to pick up their keyboard and type: "Sir, please
> cancel my subscription to your organ forthwith!"
Funny, although a little tart, oh well.
Things are really falling apart around here, hunh?
--
Tom Bishop -- http://Poetry.Here.Nu
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought
which they avoid." - - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard
Kurt Cobain's Brains
> >we'll either have to change that or be /very/ patient until it all blows
> >over. If
> >it ever does.
>
> Have you a brain? (Don't bother trying to answer that question. It
> will only confuse you, Ms Chuckles-Slurper.)
>
> >Several years ago Suzanne Fortin, bless her,
>
> <yawn>
>
> Now is now, not then. I've been posting poems and comments here for
> two and a half years, and I've never heard of Suzanne Fortin and I
> don't give a flying fuck what she thinks. Use your own words next
> time, Ms Chuckles-slurper.
>
> <unread-snip>
>
> Come back some day when you've acquired a clue.
If anyone still thinks that Peter J. Ross deserves one shread of
respect in this newsgroup, they need to acquire a clue.
Kurt
Texas Max King
"Tomble" <tombl...@truly.nu> pathetic piece of slime that he is:
> Things are really falling apart around here, hunh?
another alias eh, tommie boy.
Only way you know to get attention isn't it?
Your pathetic web site is a joke.
Made your first million yet?
Try poetry contests.
You sound like perverted idiot too.
What a fucking joke.
You'd like to make things fall apart around here but
you're the only piece of shit falling apart.
You've shown us who you really are.
A sad little man with no poetic aptitude whatsoever.
Posting from Berlin? A stick dick too, eh?
Tomble 2003
"Texas Max King" <max...@pstx.com> wrote in message news:l7CIa.762$hV.2...@twister.austin.rr.com...
>
> "Tomble" <tombl...@truly.nu> pathetic piece of slime that he is:
>
> > Things are really falling apart around here, hunh?
>
> another alias eh, tommie boy.
I'm a confessed, obsessed, depressed bog
of ambergris, and I was counting on you to
cheer me up.
You're doing it.
> Only way you know to get attention isn't it?
Not the only.
> Your pathetic web site is a joke.
Could you be more specific?
> Made your first million yet?
Probably, but I spent it along the way.
> Try poetry contests.
Why? Were you thinking of taking up poetry.
I'm trying to figure out what it is, and doubt
I can base much on your postings.
> You sound like perverted idiot too.
Yes, I am quite perverted. It's fun, and cuts right
to the naked orgasm, after which most women are ready
for another, which leads to a lot of fun.
> What a fucking joke.
Yes, funny that some women are self-conscious about
laughing during sex. Even S&M. Hey, S&M scenes are
the funniest fucking things on the planet.
After me, women laugh during sex more. :-)
> You'd like to make things fall apart around here but
> you're the only piece of shit falling apart.
No! Neither do I think that, nor will that happen.
You will just keep pounding your chest like a
chimp that wants a banana.
Squiggles haven't hurt me yet, and I only killfile
people that bore me. You will get there, but now
you are just too much fun. :-)
> You've shown us who you really are.
Yes. Cute, hunh?
> A sad little man with no poetic aptitude whatsoever.
Never claimed any much.
> Posting from Berlin? A stick dick too, eh?
It is a presumably well known free ISP that
has better service than mine.
Any other questions?
--
Tom Bishop -- http://Poetry.Here.Nu
"I've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it."
-- Groucho Marx
Dennis M. Hammes
Your loss.
--
------(m+
~/:o)_|
"Good Tly" are
aromaric frunk, Glasshopple.
http://scrawlmark.org
Peter J Ross
r...@kalieda.org (Rik Roots) guilty of posting this:
>Peter J Ross <gad...@meow.org> wrote in message news:<3b2e5bd769157643...@free.teranews.com>...
>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:21:02 GMT, a jury from rec.arts.poems found
>> bf...@sbcglobal.net (Beth Gottschalk) guilty of posting this:
>>
>> >I've been ignoring Chuck and others for the same reason I'm now going to
>> >ignore you.
>>
>> Feel free to ignore me from a place where's there's no Internet
>> connection.
>>
>My mother suffers from angina - it's quite debilitating and
>restricting, and will no doubt will lead to complications that will
>kill her in due course.
>
>To delay the prospect of death by a few years, her doctor prescribed
>beta blockers. They made her feel worse, but that's the price you have
>to pay for an extra few years' life in this madness we call planet
>earth.
>
>Except for my mother. She made an executive decision - less pain and a
>shorter life - and stopped taking the pills. She's happy with her
>decision. It's given her an incentive to lose weight, get more
>involved in community stuff, take more trips. Enjoy life.
>
>There's no point to this little ramble, except to say that sometimes
>the "harsh medicine" is not the cure. It just makes the whole
>condition worse.
I'm very sorry to hear about your mother.
>And I have to say Peter, that with posts like the exchange that
>culminated in this invidious little gem, you change from being the
>solution to becoming the problem. I wish you well in all you do in the
>future - your love of poets and poetry is far stronger than mine will
>probably ever be, but there comes a point when even the most open
>minded person has to pick up their keyboard and type: "Sir, please
>cancel my subscription to your organ forthwith!"
>
>Regretfully,
>
>Rik, knee deep.
I'm sorry you think that way, since your opinion is one I always
respect, but I can't agree with you here.
I don't see how anybody who's read Beth Gottschalk's posts over the
past few months can conclude that she's anything other than a halfwit,
or at least somebody doing a very good impersonation of a halfwit. One
of the attractions of RAP for me has always been its intolerance of
halfwits. If RAP has changed so much that idiots are now to be ignored
politely instead of told that they're idiots, /that's/ the problem - a
far worse problem than a few slightly exaggerated flames or chuckles's
pathetic attempts at trolling - and I don't have a solution to it.
Peter J Ross
"Texas Max King" <max...@pstx.com> guilty of posting this:
>
>"Peter J Ross" stoked his own amusement with:
>
>> Feel free to ignore me from a place where's there's no Internet
>> connection.
>
>It's easy to ignore you from just about anywhere on earth.
That explains why you talk about me in most of your posts, does it?
>Does the library know about the little
>internet games you play with other peoples accounts?
I refer you to my reply to you in another thread for my opinion of
your lies, scumbreath. Here I'll just register my amusement at your
idea that I'm posting from a library.
Tomble
"Peter J Ross" <gad...@meow.org> wrote in message news:9c8509a726fbafb3...@free.teranews.com...
When did her postings indicate otherwise?
But she is a nice halfwit who waters the quarter-wits.
--
Tom Bishop -- http://Poetry.Here.Nu
"Maybe we're ALL in the wrong place,
but - what the hell - let's stick around
for no good reason." --Dale Houstman
Dennis M. Hammes
But even you must admit that the current crop of halfwits is very
level-headed.
They drijbble out both sides of their mouths...