When The Mill Shut Down / Will Dockery

[Will Dockery]

When The Mill Shut Down

When the mill shut down
we hit the pavement with a thud
then we all got up and kept walking.

Some to the work house
some to the poor house
some to the whorehouse
and the grave.

-Will Dockery

[Will Dockery]

"Hieronymous707" wrote in message
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>
> The End

No, there's a few more chapters left, such as...

She Sleeps Tight

Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.

Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.

Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.

This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.

In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.

Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.

Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.

Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.

We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goose chase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gun smoke.

Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.

Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.

-Will Dockery

And so it goes...


Read more at
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2011/04/she-sleeps-tight-wil-dockery.html

[Will Dockery]

"Hieronymous707" wrote in message
news:927769b9-1b58-434b...@googlegroups.com on Monday, August
17, 2015 at 9:46:04 AM UTC-4:
>
> Then go look for your argument
> elsewhere. You know you want to.

I'd rather hear more about this:

On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 7:07:10 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> This reads more like the first sentence
> of a Will Dockery autobiography than
> a poem. Don't stop there. Continue
> the progression. Keep up the good
> work! I'll be away most of the day,
> but look forward to discussing this
> later when we both have more time.

If time permits.

:D

[Will Dockery]

"Hieronymous707" wrote in message
news:927769b9-1b58-434b...@googlegroups.com...
>
> Really? Does KILL file sound violent to you too?
> Isn't that virtually killing someone? If I didn't want
> to have this exchange with you, I wouldn't be here.
> If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead to me.

And I still feel that we had a good weekend that time you showed up at
Doo-Nanny. Here's a photo Patricia just gave me of her and several others
you met while you were down here in Dixie - Kip, Doris and Gary (may he rest
in peace).

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/357684395383496568/

Check out "Walking (To The Edge Of Town Tonight) / Will Dockery & Deby
Love-Payne​"

https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/23942838-walking-to-edge-town-tonight--will

And... so... it goes, goes, goes.

:D

[Will Dockery]

"Hieronymous707" wrote in message
news:927769b9-1b58-434b...@googlegroups.com...
>

> This reads more like the first sentence
> of a Will Dockery autobiography than
> a poem. Don't stop there. Continue
> the progression. Keep up the good
> work! I'll be away most of the day,
> but look forward to discussing this
> later when we both have more time.

A good example of Corey on a better day, which, unfortunately, never lasted
long.

Posts like these make me miss the little cuss, though.

:D

[Will Dockery]

"BPJ" wrote in message
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> Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
>> This reads more like the first sentence
> of a Will Dockery autobiography than
> a poem. Don't stop there. Continue
> the progression. Keep up the good
> work! I'll be away most of the day,
> but look forward to discussing this
>> later when we both have more time.
>

> "It takes courage to be a real friend to Corey."
> -'Angel' (wife of Rev707)

Lord knows I did try.

:D

[Will Dockery]

"Hieronymous707" wrote in message
> news:927769b9-1b58-434b...@googlegroups.com...
>

> If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead

<threat snipped>

Do tell.

:D

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmx.com> wrote in
news:slrnn8bmir.8j...@pjr.no-ip.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 31 Dec 2015 16:43:50 -0500, Will
> Dockery wrote:
>
> <spewsnip>
>
> References: ... <slrnmt7eno.vi...@pjr.no-ip.org>
>
>
> How's that "not replying to the 'trolls'" schtick working out for you,
> Dreckster?

It's working really well from my point of view. I can laugh at little
willie douchebag all I want.


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[Will Dockery]

For those who missed the start of this thread.

c & c welcome.

:D

[Bill Evans]

"Will Dockery" <will_d...@outlook.com> wrote:
> When The Mill Shut Down
>
> When the mill shut down
> we hit the pavement with a thud
> then we all got up and kept walking.
>
> Some to the work house
> some to the poor house
> some to the whorehouse
> and the grave.

A lightweight poem about a heavy subject, but brevity can
pack a punch, as it does here.

I know that artistically speaking our culture favors threes
instead of fours, but would it be worthwhile to give a nod
to alcoholism here?

Some to the work house
some to the poor house

some to the ale house

some to the whorehouse
and the grave.

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[Will Dockery]

Bill Evans wrote:

> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> > When The Mill Shut Down
> >
> > When the mill shut down
> > we hit the pavement with a thud
> > then we all got up and kept walking.
> >
> > Some to the work house
> > some to the poor house
> > some to the whorehouse
> > and the grave.
>
> A lightweight poem about a heavy subject, but brevity can
> pack a punch, as it does here.
>
> I know that artistically speaking our culture favors threes
> instead of fours, but would it be worthwhile to give a nod
> to alcoholism here?
>
> Some to the work house
> some to the poor house
> some to the ale house
> some to the whorehouse
> and the grave.

Looking at this, Bill, while the image and sentiment of adding "ale house" isn't out of place, rhythmically it throws the piece off for me. As it is, it goes badda-bip, badda-bip, badda-bip... badda-BOOM with "grave".

Probably I'm too set on how the delivery /punches/ as it is, but I might try it with the "ale house" line tonight at the poetry reading I'm planning on tonight at the coffee shop open mic... and see what reactions it gets from the crowd.

And, thanks again for reading and commenting, Bill.

:D

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmx.com> wrote in

news:slrnn9373l.19...@pjr.no-ip.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 1 Jan 2016 04:10:34 +0000 (UTC),

> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
>
>> Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmx.com> wrote in
>> news:slrnn8bmir.8j...@pjr.no-ip.org:
>>
>>> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 31 Dec 2015 16:43:50 -0500, Will
>>> Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>> <spewsnip>
>>>
>>> References: ... <slrnmt7eno.vi...@pjr.no-ip.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> How's that "not replying to the 'trolls'" schtick working out for
>>> you, Dreckster?
>>
>> It's working really well from my point of view. I can laugh at little
>> willie douchebag all I want.
>

> You can do that even when he's not pretending to ignore you, but I
> take your point. When he's pretending to ignore us, we could even tell
> lies about him, but neither of us would ever do so. The fact that he's
> a talentless, thieving, moronic, plagiarising, tone-deaf, drug-addled,
> unemployable beggar can be backed up with vast amounts of proof.

It'd be hard to make up a lie about a soap dodging pissbum who ducks
questions and child support and parades corpses around Usenet for
sympathy. I mean it might well be a lie to call Dreckery a pedophile but
it's certainly been proven he's enabled at least one pedophile[1].

[1] Perhaps Drecknozzle could take after his example and feed worms.

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obsess over the chuckle for 7 years." - Ed the numerically-challenged.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmx.com> wrote in

news:slrnn98bbp.b3...@pjr.no-ip.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:29:47 +0000 (UTC),

> As you know, I've never called Dreckery a paedophile, even though he's
> stated repeatedly that pornographic pictures of children are "poems".
>
> I haven't even called Dunce a paedophile, even though he's stated
> repeatedly that the victims of paedophile photographers are "models",
> and described the little girls about whom paedophiles fantasise as
> "women".
>
> (The words in quotation marks are the precise words the kooks used
> when defending chuckles lysaght's posting of child pornography in
> AAPC. I provided Message-IDs only a few weeks ago, but can provide
> them again if any honest enquirer asks.)
>
> Perhaps I'm too scrupulous? But I'm proud of the fact that it's
> obvious even to stupid people that I've never told a lie about either
> of the plagiarising, paedophile-loving, spamming, whining, lying,
> unemployable, sociopathic, racist, misogynist, whining scum. To
> describe them as paedophiles would require the kind of logical leap
> that stupid people would be unable to understand.
>
> Besides, it's a principle of our excellent legal system that the
> burden of proof lies upon the prosecutor, and I'm not sure beyond
> reasonable doubt that Dreckery's and Dunce's hard drives are stuffed
> full with kiddy pr0n. It's possible that they're not.

You left out narcissistic deadbeat in Dreckster's case but I get your
point. However it's probably the ideal time to discuss why even mooching
losers like the Shadowville All-Scum won't associate with our resident
soap dodger any longer.

It's entirely possible that Dreckster showed something illegal and
disgusting to his former bandmates and with the last remaining sparks of
decency shipoped the pissbum off to Coventry.

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"As for being a kook - we all kook, some kook better than others. And I
surely kook better than you." - Ilya Shambat on his own sanity.

[Will Dockery]

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> madeforz...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> > > > All to the grave is the last line.
> > > > The story doesn't continue
> > > > beyond the last line of the story,
> > > > so All to the grave can't be seen
> > > > or heard as rushing the story ahead.
> > > > All to the grave ends the story,
> > > > followed by a big Gomer wave,
> > > > like you're gesturing to all those
> > > > referenced in the story.
> > >
> > > That's okay if the writer wanted to "end" the story there, which I wasn't doing.
> > >
> > > The poem was written "in the moment":

>
> > > When The Mill Shut Down
> > > >
> > > > When the mill shut down
> > > > we hit the pavement with a thud
> > > > then we all got up and kept walking.
> > > >
> > > > Some to the work house
> > > > some to the poor house
> > > > some to the whorehouse
> > > > and the grave.
> > > >

> > > > -Will Dockery

<trollish spew ignored and snipped>

> Enough already, Dink.
>
> Post a poem. Critique a poem.
>
> Otherwise, please do us all a favor and stfu.

That just about says it all for poetry group participation, really.

:D

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmx.com> wrote in

news:slrnn9l7i9.5i...@pjr.no-ip.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 12 Jan 2016 01:49:05 +0000 (UTC),

>> of decency shipped the pissbum off to Coventry.
>
> Given his propensity for plagiarism, he may have claimed to be the
> author of chuckles's lysaght's "perfect angel", of which he was an
> enthusiastic admirer.
>
> DRECKERY: Hey guys, I've written a new song, it goes like this:
> <mumbles>I knew it was</mumbles>
> <bawls>WROOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!</bawls>
> <mumbles>She was only</mumbles>
> <bawls>TWEEEEEEEEEEEELVE</bawls>"
>
> BAND: WTF?

It's always possible that being seen in public with Dreckster may have
permanently harmed them economically and socially. I know it's a reach
given their lack of taste and discernment after all this time but one of
them may have had a moment of clarity[1].

Then again, having little willie douchebag around is a cockblock of the
first order. Perhaps one of them discovered they had nads and decided to
try to do something about it with a member of the opposite sex.

[1] Abg arpprffnevyl fboevrgl ohg vg'f eryngvir...

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"....your harassment will probably endure until I get around to
punishing you into a legal and economic pulp, hence, I have no need to
rush the legal actions." - Ed explains why it's still February of 2002.

[gareth]

Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmx.com> wrote in

news:slrnn98bbp.b3...@pjr.no-ip.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:29:47

> As you know, I've never called Dreckery a paedophile, even
> though he's stated repeatedly that pornographic pictures of
> children are "poems".
>
> I haven't even called Dunce a paedophile, even though he's
> stated repeatedly that the victims of paedophile
> photographers are "models", and described the little girls
> about whom paedophiles fantasise as "women".
>
>

You've also never called Burnore that name even though
he is one.

[Will Dockery]

Bill Evans wrote:

> Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was just posting this for someone else, elsewhere, so
> > will have to fetch the lyrics in the next post, if you're
> > not in the mood to listen to a video.
>
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm seldom in the mood to
> listen to a video. I usually sit at the computer listening
> to my own goshdarn music. Color me continually grouchy.
>
> (*grumble*)

>
> --
> Bill Evans / Box 1224 / Mariposa, CA 95338 / (209)742-4720

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I am mostly the same way, but I usually make exceptions for the regulars here, who often respond in kind.

If you DO get the time, though, here's one I think you might like, which contains one of my (meaning one of my lines) favorite lines of poetry:

"When cheating is for losers and playing straight is for fools, you never know which way to go."

Check out the free download of the day: Black Crow's Brother / Will Dockery & Gini Woolfolk Davidson

https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/4926102-black-crows-brother--will-dockery?0

:D

[Will Dockery]

"BPJ" wrote in message
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> On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 7:07:10 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
>> This reads more like the first sentence
> of a Will Dockery autobiography than
> a poem. Don't stop there. Continue
> the progression. Keep up the good
> work! I'll be away most of the day,
> but look forward to discussing this
>> later when we both have more time.
>
> "It takes courage to be a real friend to Corey."
> -'Angel' (wife of Rev707)

A tolerance for hypocritical b.s. is more like it.

:)

[Will Dockery]

"Hieronymous707" wrote in message
news:b2f48889-b55d-4ec4...@googlegroups.com...
>
> Wait a sec. Are you saying you WANT me to
> be the OPPOSITE of brutally, intimately, in
> your face honest with you? Sure! No problem!
> Dude, that's easy, and a real load off my mind.
>
> Thanks.

Better yet, pick a consistent stance and stick with it woulod have worked
best.

:)

[Will Dockery]

"Bill Evans" wrote in message
news:news.Fri.2016010...@mariposabill.com...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I appreciate the feedback on the poetry.

:)

[Will Dockery]

"Bill Evans" wrote in message

news:news.Thu.2016010...@mariposabill.com...
> Michael Pendragon <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote
(as edited for 80-column television):

> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:32:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Bill Evans wrote:

> > > A lightweight poem about a heavy subject, but brevity can
> > > pack a punch, as it does here.
> > >
> > > I know that artistically speaking our culture favors threes
> > > instead of fours, but would it be worthwhile to give a nod
> > > to alcoholism here?
> > >

> > > Some to the work house
> > > some to the poor house

> > > some to the ale house

> > > some to the whorehouse
> > > and the grave.
> >

> > Looking at this, Bill, while the image and sentiment of
> > adding "ale house" isn't out of place, rhythmically it
> > throws the piece off for me. As it is, it goes
> > badda-bip, badda-bip, badda-bip... badda-BOOM with
> > "grave".
> >
>

> Agreed. There's a nursery rhyme quality to the original
> that strengthens the impact of the lines: lending them a
> cyclical pattern that's been repeated through several
> generations. The addition of the "ale house" line breaks
> the nursery rhyme feel, thus robbing the stanza of much of
> its power.

That's basically what I was getting at with:

> > > I know that artistically speaking our culture favors threes
> > > instead of fours

but you guys put it in far better words than I did.

============================================

I did enjoy your critique and commentary, though.

[Will Dockery]

"BPJ" wrote in message
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> Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
>> This reads more like the first sentence
> of a Will Dockery autobiography than
> a poem. Don't stop there. Continue
> the progression. Keep up the good
> work! I'll be away most of the day,
> but look forward to discussing this
>> later when we both have more time.
>
> "It takes courage to be a real friend to Corey."
> -'Angel' (wife of Rev707)

No comment.

:)

[Will Dockery]

"Hieronymous707" wrote in message
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>
> Lol. You remember reading something you never read,
> won't admit you never read it, but somehow I'm wrong.

It is what it is, still.

[Will Dockery]

"Clerk Kent"; "mild-mannered reporter" wrote in message
news:4e66946a-5308-4d4e...@evansusenet.com...

The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~
~ When the mill shut down
~ we hit the cement with a thud,
~ and it hurt a lot more than it should,
~ but we got up and kept on walking.
~
~ Some to the jail house;
~ Some to the poor house;
~ Some to the ale house;
~ Some to the whorehouse;
~ and all to the grave.

-Will Dockery

~
~ Lol.

Good archiving, kudos.

[Will Dockery]

Speaking of mood swings... heh.

[Will Dockery]

madeforz...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Will Dockery FAQ
>
> <snipped for focus>

> More like snipped to avoid reality.

The confusion of fantasy with reality is known as being delusional.

> > etc. Dockery is an employee of a pizza establishment known as Pizza Roma
> > in
> > Columbus, Georgia in a small section of town called "Shadowville."
> > Will's
> > behavior proves him to be anything but the typical employee of a pizza
> > parlor, however. He enjoys writing poetry while both on and off the job,
> > reading it in front of audiences in downtown coffee shops or local bars,
> > and
> > then basking in the audience's reaction, regardless of how positive or
> > negative it may be. However, most of Will's writings have been known to
> > be
> > rather poor or uncomprehensible in quality and, as a result, when he
> > posts
> > his writings to Usenet the reaction is almost always in a negative
> > manner.
> >
> > Will is also an admitted drug and alcohol abuser, so it can be assumed
> > that
> > most of his writings originate while under the influence of one or both.
> > So
> > far Will has admitted to abusing marijuana and alcohol but remains
> > rather
> > quiet on any stronger drugs that he may or may not have ingested. When
> > confronted with the fact that he is a possible alcoholic and drug
> > abuser,
> > Will scoffed at the fact and stated that police officers frequently use
> > more
> > marijuana than ordinary citizens such as himself. These and other
> > idiotic
> > statements, along with his behavior on and offline, have branded Will as
> > a
> > "pizza boy," and it doesn't look like things are going to change anytime
> > soon. Later, it was agreed upon that since Will's moronic postings,
> > stubborn
> > behavior, and overall insane actions proved him to be an idiot, that
> > alt.idiot.will-dockery needed to be created.
> >
> > It should also be noted that the aforementioned drug and alcohol abuse
> > have
> > reduced Will's reading comprehension skills down to the level of what we
> > can
> > estimate to be between that of a four-year old and eight-year old level,
> > averaging somewhere around the six-year-old level. If Will is an example
> > of
> > anything else, it's that abusing drugs and alcohol is never a good thing
> > and
> > that a person can never start sobering up too soon.
> >
> > 2a. What is a "pizza boy?"
> >
> > A: A "pizza boy," or "pizza boy," or "pizzaboi," as it is sometimes
> > spelled,
> > is much different than a pizza delivery driver. A pizza delivery person
> > works a job delivering pizzas. These are hard-working, respectful
> > individuals who are in college or just trying to eek out a living as
> > much as
> > they can. They are people who have lost their jobs suddenly, or people
> > who
> > need income to help feed their children and family of five, or just
> > everyday
> > people looking for something different. Many of them are retirees
> > working a
> > job for supplemental pay in between social security checks. Others are
> > in it
> > for the love of the job, though they are few and far between.
> >
> > A pizzaboy wants this as their only job until retirement and could care
> > less
> > about what the customer receives, so long as he or she receives a tip
> > upon
> > delivery, regardless of how they act on your doorstep. Because of their
> > antisocial nature, some have been known to place bodily secretions onto
> > the
> > pizzas of customers they do not like, claim minorities are cheap,
> > homosexuals are evil (and call their enemies "fags" or "gay", thinking
> > it to
> > be a great flame), and are probably are misoginst as well. A pizzaboy is
> > usually stereotyped by the mainstream media and general as lazy,
> > unshaven,
> > unbathed, hairy, rude, greedy, stupid, ignorant, antisocial, and
> > occassionally bigoted or sociopathic. A good example of a stereotype
> > used in
> > the media of a "pizzaboy" can be seen in the movie "Home Alone," where
> > the
> > pizzaboy drives onto the lawn, knocks over and destroys a statue, walks
> > up
> > to the door, bangs on it callously, then when he receives a low amount
> > for a
> > tip smirks and gets the door slammed in his face. Many pizza boys
> > consider
> > people who do not tip "stiffers" and a few of the more antisocial and
> > stupider ones plot "revenge" or attempt to send a "message" to such
> > customers by delivering the pizza late or in poor condition. Should you
> > ever
> > receive a pizza not in the condition you desired or it arrives late, it
> > may
> > be a good idea to contact the establishment from which you ordered. A
> > sad
> > fact of life is that there are "pizza boys" in every establishment ever
> > created.
> >
> > Will Dockery is classified as a "pizza boy" because of his antisocial
> > (and
> > slightly bigoted) attitude, his attitude towards customers, his
> > misoginistic
> > behavior towards women, his delusional and egotistical nature, and for
> > the
> > fact that he just sucks. You really have to see him for yourself;
> > luckily,
> > anyone who comes across Will on Usenet doesn't take to long to realize
> > just
> > how close he comes to the common stereotype of a pizza boy.
> >
> > 3. Ackronyms
> >
> > Sometimes you may come across a post in alt.idiot.will-dockery that has
> > ackronyms in it. Here is a brief list of those which have graced the
> > newsgroup every so often:
> >
> > APDD. This stands for alt.pizza.delivery.drivers, a newsgroup that Will
> > hangs around in and is generally mocked and despised in for his behavior
> > and
> > moronic postings. APDD used to be a newsgroup full of people just like
> > Will
> > several years ago; however, after a brief engagement by outside parties
> > into
> > the newsgroup questioning the behavior of those posters, many of them,
> > if
> > not all of them, made a mass exodus of the newsgroup. Some of them later
> > became members of an e-mail list that did essentially the same thing as
> > APDD
> > except of course in e-mail.
> >
> > AIWD. Stands for alt.idiot.will-dockery, the title of this newsgroup.
> >
> > PR. This stands for "Pizza Roma," the pizza delivery store where Will
> > currently works.
> >
> > AUK. alt.usenet.kooks, another newsgroup on Usenet and one where Will's
> > posts frequently end up being posted to due to the fact that their
> > content
> > warrants them being both on-topic in the group and an amusement for all
> > who
> > read and lurk there.
> > PJR. Peter J. Ross, the guy who sent the control message for
> > alt.idiot.will-dockery to be created.
> >
> > RAP. rec.arts.poems, a newsgroup of, well, poems -- at least it used to
> > be,
> > until the shit hit the fan and splattered into layers too thick to be
> > removed using general household cleaners. Will enjoys posting to RAP
> > because
> > he considers himself a poet and an artist of the poetry circuit. Most
> > people
> > disagree with him on that fact.
> >
> > AAPC. alt.arts.poetry.comments, another poetry newsgroup where Will
> > hangs
> > out to play. Frequently there are crossposts between
> > alt.arts.poetry.comments and rec.arts.poems as both newsgroups have
> > similar
> > purposes and content.
> >
> > FOAD. Fuck off and die. Usually written at the end of a post, but
> > occassionally somewhere in the body, its meaning is obvious.
> >
> > WTF? What the fuck? This question is usually asked in response to Will's
> > postings, as due to his excessive drug and alcohol abuse it can be
> > difficult
> > to determine what, if anything, he meant in the post in question. His
> > poor
> > reading comprehension also causes this ackronym to be used every so
> > often
> > when someone can't figure out how he could come to such a mind-boggling,
> > head-numbing conclusion.
> >
> > WTH? Same as what the fuck, only with Hell/Heck instead of Fuck.
> >
> > AHM. alt.hackers.malicious. A newsgroup of dubious quality, Will's
> > postings
> > occasionally end up crossposted to here to give the regulars a good
> > laugh. A
> > really good laugh.
> >
> > WD. "Will Dockery." Used when the poster doesn't feel like writing out
> > 'Will
> > Dockery' or believes that those reading the thread have sufficient
> > enough
> > knowledge to know who they are talking about.
> >
> > Other ackronyms will be added as necessary or time allows.
> >
> > 5. Names
> >
> > Amber. Amber is a former employee of Pizza Roma where Will works. Months
> > ago, Will's manager found her having sex with a fellow employee in the
> > back
> > room and blew a gasket. Will claims that Amber wasn't fired for fucking
> > in
> > the back room but was fired for something else. According to Will, Amber
> > has
> > either had sex with or plans to have sex with every male employee of
> > Pizza
> > Roma from the manager all the way to the owner. She is the truest
> > example of
> > a whore you could possibly find in Will's area.
> >
> > Will Dockery. Self-explanatory. Will works for Pizza Roma and loves to
> > mystify Usenet with the various tales from the store, some of which
> > would
> > cause any self-respecting health inspector to vomit. Will has hounddog
> > loyalty to his manager Pasko and would do anything to please him -- and
> > we
> > do mean anything.
> >
> > Pasko. Pasko is the retarded criminal who runs Pizza Roma. We say
> > retarded
> > because that's about the only way to rationally explain away his poor
> > decisions and we say criminal because Will has admitted that Pasko is a
> > criminal. According to Will, Pasko buys bootleg copies of movies off the
> > street from strangers and has guns in his office that he gives to his
> > employees to take on runs to "dangerous areas." While both of these are
> > felonies, Will claims that Pasko is NOT a convicted felon and that the
> > crime
> > he was in prison for was only a misdemeanor or something similar. But
> > don't
> > prod Will for details or he'll call you a "stalker."
> >
> > Trey. A fellow employee of Pizza Roma where Will works. Supposedly
> > threatened suicide in the parking lot with a shotgun he kept in the
> > trunk of
> > his car before Will and other employees talked him out of it.
> >
> > Matt. Another employee of Pizza Roma.
> >
> > Ben. The owner of Pizza Roma, allegedly clueless to everything going on
> > inside the store.
> >
> > Rusty. Russell "Bert" Waters, AKA Russell B. Waters, AKA Rusty, is
> > another
> > pizza boy who inhabits rec.arts.poems and alt.pizza.delivery.drivers and
> > who
> > is on a slightly lower level than Will when it comes to doing and saying
> > unbelievable shit that makes you wonder if they aren't some really bad
> > version of the Matrix. Rusty is an overweight, homosexual, white
> > supremacist
> > who lives with his parents and works in a bank. We wish we were making
> > that
> > shit up.

Wow... that's quite a collection of personal information...

Obsess/Stalk much?

[Will Dockery]

"gareth" wrote in message
news:9f9ac$569d4535$68e60b5b$12...@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com...

>
> You've also never called Burnore that name even though he is one.

Consider the source, as D. M. Hammes used to respond in a case of hypocrisy
such as that.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

"Will Dockery" <will_d...@outlook.com> wrote in
news:o148d0$q6k$2...@dont-email.me:

Dredging up (lame) posts from 10 months ago, Dreckweasel?

Great job ignoring the "trolls". Run out of corpses to drag around?

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"When the students and newsgroups and world is ready, the master appears"
- Edmond Wollmann, trying ever so hard to be modest.

[Will Dockery]

"BPJ" wrote in message
news:5c3a4306-3e71-423b...@googlegroups.com...

On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 7:07:10 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> This reads more like the first sentence
> of a Will Dockery autobiography than
> a poem. Don't stop there. Continue
> the progression. Keep up the good
> work! I'll be away most of the day,
> but look forward to discussing this
> later when we both have more time.

"It takes courage to be a real friend to Corey."
> -'Angel' (wife of Rev707)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, I hope those friends are staying brave...

Anyone heard from Corey? Nothing here, which is surprising, I don't think
he's stayed away from the newsgroups for so long in the entire two decades
I've known him...

Perhaps he's socked up and parlaying it real well...

Happy Holidays Corey, and the rest of the super brave Connor family, where
ever y'all are.

:)

[Will Dockery]

"Bill Evans" wrote in message
news:news.Thu.2016010...@mariposabill.com...

> Hieronymous707 <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> we hit the cement with a thud,

> and it hurt a lot more than it should,

That's the Corey touch, earthy and graphic. I like it.

---------------------------------------------------------------

I just caught this message... while it may work for a poem by someone else,
it tampers with my meaning, my poem's meaning, which I really feel is
exactly how I need the poem to be, as is.

Thanks for the feedback, my erstwhile friends.

:)

[Will Dockery]

"Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
news:679ac295-a60b-4266...@googlegroups.com...

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Bill Evans wrote:
> > "Will Dockery" wrote:
> >
> > > When The Mill Shut Down
> > >

> > > When the mill shut down

> > > we hit the pavement with a thud
> > > then we all got up and kept walking.
> > >
> > > Some to the work house
> > > some to the poor house
> > > some to the whorehouse
> > > and the grave.
> >
> > A lightweight poem about a heavy subject, but brevity can
> > pack a punch, as it does here.
> >
> > I know that artistically speaking our culture favors threes
> > instead of fours, but would it be worthwhile to give a nod
> > to alcoholism here?
> >
> > Some to the work house
> > some to the poor house
> > some to the ale house
> > some to the whorehouse
> > and the grave.
>
> Looking at this, Bill, while the image and sentiment of adding "ale house"
> isn't out of place, rhythmically it throws the piece off for me. As it is,
> it goes badda-bip, badda-bip, badda-bip... badda-BOOM with "grave".
>

Agreed. There's a nursery rhyme quality to the original that strengthens
the impact of the lines: lending them a cyclical pattern that's been
repeated through several generations. The addition of the "ale house" line
breaks the nursery rhyme feel, thus robbing the stanza of much of its power.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks, Pendragon, that nails my stance on the poem quite well.

[Will Dockery]

EBG wrote:
>
>you think Dockery has depth of any kind

The joke is that you're too shallow to understand depth, obviously.

:)

[Will Dockery]

"AWOL" wrote in message
news:816409ea-3956-417e...@googlegroups.com...

The Sniper Wore a Starched Collar

In the beginning, the threat was set

and guided by a star called North er make that South,

the thousand mile journey began;

destination, Doonanny. Target:

Shadowville Will, lead crooner at Hog Bottom,

best BBQ and flies and dust in town.



At mile 707, a voice rang out

as that sniper passed a sign

"Best Finger Picken, Drippin, Likken, BBQ in town"

and that sign became a sign

and the voice said: "Drop your long gun,

pick up instead, a cardboard boxed,

throw away camera, titled Kodak and shoot

your target with shaky hands through lens

rather than scope and you will be greeted

as friend rather than foe, even though Shadowville Will

would have a chill, at first, who's on second?"



And so it was, a video of grainy dust to dust grew

as blood spilled, was forsaken

(except the poor pig, roasting on an open fire)

and the journey home brought smiles

to that sniper with starched collar,

knowing an Angel waited with open arms

and legs, keeping the last supper of mutton so far away

from thought, but caution is sent to all:

beware the sniper with starched collar, as he whispers

vengeance is mine sayeth me...

while taking a pee, poo and wipeth

Praise Jesus (my landscaper) and Happy New Year.

----------------------------------------------------------

An a.a.p.c. Holiday classic...

Thanks Jim, and Reverend, where ever you may roam.

:)

[Will Dockery]

"Michael Pendragon" wrote in message

news:dc65bd92-4927-49c3...@googlegroups.com...
> Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> Tommy passed last week. Gunny is still
> hanging in there, but he'll go soon too.
> Bill is as ornery as ever, and still calls
> Angel Crystal. Leo and Geno are both
> looking good, and seem to be doing well.
> There are a few new faces around the
> Ward, both patients and staff. Otherwise,
> it's pretty much the same old same old.
> That's about all the news I have today.

Let's hope Gunny doesn't follow you online.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Or some ignorant troll pretending to be Gunny.

[Will Dockery]

"Samsung Experience" wrote in message
news:773e47c5-0622-4942...@googlegroups.com...
>
> You have to be joking because this is a poem of great seriousness and
> depth.

Yes, real story of real people and real tragedy.

[Peter J Ross]

[news.groups snecked]

In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 24 Nov 2016 21:15:11 +0000 (UTC),

Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:

> "Will Dockery" <will_d...@outlook.com> wrote in
> news:o148d0$q6k$2...@dont-email.me:
>
>> "gareth" wrote in message
>> news:9f9ac$569d4535$68e60b5b$12...@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com...
>>>
>>> You've also never called Burnore that name even though he is one.
>>
>> Consider the source, as D. M. Hammes used to respond in a case of
>> hypocrisy such as that.
>>
> Dredging up (lame) posts from 10 months ago, Dreckweasel?
>
> Great job ignoring the "trolls". Run out of corpses to drag around?

It's a pity that Dennis Hammes is dead. If he were alive, he could
have added to the thousands of posts in which he expressed his
contempt for Dreckery. He might also have mentioned that "Consider the
source [of all comments]" was something that ggamble used to say long
before the racist, misogynistic (but not untalented) Hammes arrived
here.



--
PJR :-)

τὸν οἰόμενον νόον ἔχειν ὁ νουθετέων ματαιοπονεῖ.
- Democritus

[Will Dockery]

"Peter J Ross" wrote in message
news:slrnmt7ekk.vi...@pjr.no-ip.org...
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:05:39 -0400, Will

Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 7:07:10 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
>> This reads more like the first sentence
>> of a Will Dockery autobiography than
>> a poem. Don't stop there. Continue
>> the progression. Keep up the good
>> work! I'll be away most of the day,
>> but look forward to discussing this
>> later when we both have more time.
>

> If time permits.

> Has there ever been anybody

That you were more obsessed with than me?

Doubtful.

;)

[Will Dockery]

"Michael Pendragon" wrote in message

news:b4fb72c8-f136-467e...@googlegroups.com...
> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 4:24:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 1:38:59 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:49:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:16:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > > I reposted the RN stats in response to direct questioning.
> > > >
> > > > Just to quickly keep the record straight on that.
> > >
> > > No one gives a shit, Will.
> >
> > Learn to read. He said you people questioned him about the stats, not
> > that
> > you give a shit about them.
>
> Yes, and it should be about time to check those statistics again... heh.
>
> Speaking of something someone here /always/ gives a GIANT shit about, my
> current visage, which I will be giving to Zod to see how his painting for
> possible use on the book turns out:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156856118059363&set=a.10155233164054363&type=3
>
> > I call it, if Zod agrees, "Blue Moves".
>
> Sounds like a gay porn flick.

Everything seems gay to you, Pendragon... your hidden desires coming to the
surface, perhaps?

[Marcus Barrett]

On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 12:37:04 PM UTC+8, Will Dockery wrote:
> When The Mill Shut Down
>
> When the mill shut down
> we hit the pavement with a thud
> then we all got up and kept walking.
>
> Some to the work house
> some to the poor house
> some to the whorehouse
> and the grave.
>

> -Will Dockery

Awesome!



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[madeforz...@yahoo.com]

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 5:59:06 AM UTC-4, Marcus Barrett wrote:
> On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 12:37:04 PM UTC+8, Will Dockery wrote:
> > When The Mill Shut Down
> >
> > When the mill shut down
> > we hit the pavement with a thud
> > then we all got up and kept walking.
> >
> > Some to the work house
> > some to the poor house
> > some to the whorehouse
> > and the grave.
> >
> > -Will Dockery
>
> Awesome!
>
>

Don't you mean "Complete crap?"

[W-Dockery]

madeforz...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Marcus Barrett wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > When The Mill Shut Down
>> >
>> > When the mill shut down
>> > we hit the pavement with a thud
>> > then we all got up and kept walking.
>> >
>> > Some to the work house
>> > some to the poor house
>> > some to the whorehouse
>> > and the grave.
>> >
>> > -Will Dockery
>>
>> Awesome!
>>
>>

> Don't you mean

Sounds like he said what he meant.

HTH and HAND.

[Greg C. Westin]

I remember the paper mill
stayed open
it was impossible to work there right now
said a man

i don't know why
but something with the way
he looked
looked like he didn't really have to
finish
the fifth grade to do what he was doing
ah but those who are like children
will inherit the kingdom of God

will we work at the paper mill, in Oregon,
Will?
or will we all write poems like yours
someday

I wonder what's there down Halsey
in Portland,
who is there
as the water from the Columbia rushes
into the plant
and pulp comes out and something with exponential
force changes this to actual paper

[Rocky Rhodan]

Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>> > When The Mill Shut Down
>>> >
>>> > When the mill shut down
>>> > we hit the pavement with a thud
>>> > then we all got up and kept walking.
>>> >
>>> > Some to the work house
>>> > some to the poor house
>>> > some to the whorehouse
>>> > and the grave.
>>> >
>>> > -Will Dockery

One of your all-time best Doc.....

[W.Dockery]

Yes, it is perfect for the opening section of my book:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Selected-Poems-1976-2019-Paperback-9780994860019/796425131

[Victor H.]

Indeed.....

[W.Dockery]

Thanks again for the nod, Rocky.

[W.Dockery]

Like I said way back when, everything seems gay to you, Pendragon... your hidden desires coming to the surface, perhaps?

HTH and HAND.

[W-Dockery]

Greg C. Westin wrote:

> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 7:55:13 PM UTC-6, opb...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> madeforz...@yahoo.com wrote:

>> > Marcus Barrett wrote:
>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> >> > When The Mill Shut Down
>> >> >
>> >> > When the mill shut down
>> >> > we hit the pavement with a thud
>> >> > then we all got up and kept walking.
>> >> >
>> >> > Some to the work house
>> >> > some to the poor house
>> >> > some to the whorehouse
>> >> > and the grave.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Will Dockery
>> >>

>> >> Awesome!
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> > Don't you mean
>> Sounds like he said what he meant.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> I remember the paper mill
> stayed open
> it was impossible to work there right now
> said a man

> i don't know why
> but something with the way
> he looked
> looked like he didn't really have to
> finish
> the fifth grade to do what he was doing
> ah but those who are like children
> will inherit the kingdom of God

> will we work at the paper mill, in Oregon,
> Will?
> or will we all write poems like yours
> someday

> I wonder what's there down Halsey
> in Portland,
> who is there
> as the water from the Columbia rushes
> into the plant
> and pulp comes out and something with exponential
> force changes this to actual paper

Hello there, Greg, I wish your friends at the paper mill good luck, times are tough all over.

And so it goes.

[General-Zod]

Best of luck to you Greg...!

[W.Dockery]

Seconded.

[Victor H.]

Cool... cool....

[W.Dockery]

Thanks again for the positive feedback.

[W-Dockery]

Thanks again for the endorsement, my friend.

[W.Dockery]

Good morning, my friend.

🙂

[W-Dockery]

Good afternoon, my friend.

[W.Dockery]

Family Guy wrote:

> Marcus Barrett wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>> > When The Mill Shut Down
>>> >
>>> > When the mill shut down
>>> > we hit the pavement with a thud
>>> > then we all got up and kept walking.
>>> >
>>> > Some to the work house
>>> > some to the poor house
>>> > some to the whorehouse
>>> > and the grave.
>>> >
>>> > -Will Dockery
>>>
>>> Awesome!
>>>
>>>

>> Don't you mean

<Dink snipped>

I doubt Marcus needs you to tell him what he meant, Dink.

🙂

[Victor H.]

Nope...

[W-Dockery]

Thanks again for the nod, Zod.

[W-Dockery]

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> > When The Mill Shut Down
>>> >
>>> > When the mill shut down
>>> > we hit the pavement with a thud
>>> > then we all got up and kept walking.
>>> >
>>> > Some to the work house
>>> > some to the poor house
>>> > some to the whorehouse
>>> > and the grave.
>>> >
>>> > -Will Dockery

Hi.... once again one of your very best....!

[W.Dockery]

Good morning, Zod, another reality based poem.

[W.Dockery]

Good evening, thanks again for the nod.

[W.Dockery]

Good evening, my friend.

[W.Dockery]

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>>

>> "When the Mill Shut Down" in the current form goes back to at least July 30 2006, where Stuart Leichter gave it a favorable review:

>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/IaDWIoMXOkU/m/QcPcBOeQF-0J

>> ***

>> On Sunday, July 30, 2006 at 5:16:55 PM UTC-4, Stuart Leichter wrote:
>>> in article c018b$44cce4fb$18d6510f$16...@KNOLOGY.NET, Will Dockery at
>>> will_d...@knology.net wrote on 7/30/06 12:59 PM:
>>>
>>>> When.
>>>
>>>> When the mill shut down,
>>>> we hit the pavement with a thud,

>>>> then we all got up and kept walking.

>>>> Some to the work house,
>>>> some to the poor house,
>>>> some to the whorehouse,

>>>> and the grave.
>>>>
>>>> -Will Dockery

> Truly one of your greatest poems Doc...

Good morning, thanks again, Zod.

>>> This one's good, Will.
>>> The title you might make When the mill shut down (without the comma, and
>>> then continue with the 2nd and following lines).
>>> I think you should post it with a C&C request in the subject line.
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>> (crit-cred: I know literal from figurative, I know opinions from sentiments,
>>> and I never threatened you)

>> ***

>> And so it goes.

..

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:

> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:b4fb72c8-f136-467e...@googlegroups.com...

>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> George J. Dance wrote:

>>> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> > > Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> > > > I reposted the RN stats in response to direct questioning.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Just to quickly keep the record straight on that.
>>> > >
>>> > > No one gives a shit, Will.
>>> >
>>> > Learn to read. He said you people questioned him about the stats, not
>>> > that
>>> > you give a shit about them.
>>>
>>> Yes, and it should be about time to check those statistics again... heh.
>>>
>>> Speaking of something someone here /always/ gives a GIANT shit about, my
>>> current visage, which I will be giving to Zod to see how his painting for
>>> possible use on the book turns out:
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156856118059363&set=a.10155233164054363&type=3
>>>
>>> I call it, if Zod agrees, "Blue Moves".
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like a gay porn flick.

> Like I said way back when, everything seems gay to you, Pendragon... your hidden desires coming to the surface, perhaps?

> HTH and HAND.

I had almost forgotten about Penhead's homophobia...

[W.Dockery]

Actually, that is better off forgotten.

:)

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:

> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
> news:b4fb72c8-f136-467e...@googlegroups.com...

>> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 4:24:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 1:38:59 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
>> > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:49:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:

>> > > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:16:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> > > > I reposted the RN stats in response to direct questioning.
>> > > >
>> > > > Just to quickly keep the record straight on that.
>> > >
>> > > No one gives a shit, Will.
>> >
>> > Learn to read. He said you people questioned him about the stats, not
>> > that
>> > you give a shit about them.
>>
>> Yes, and it should be about time to check those statistics again... heh.
>>
>> Speaking of something someone here /always/ gives a GIANT shit about, my
>> current visage, which I will be giving to Zod to see how his painting for
>> possible use on the book turns out:
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156856118059363&set=a.10155233164054363&type=3
>>
>> > I call it, if Zod agrees, "Blue Moves".
>>
>> Sounds like a gay porn flick.

> Everything seems gay to you, Pendragon... your hidden desires coming to the
> surface, perhaps?


What an odd little man Pen is...

[W.Dockery]

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:b4fb72c8-f136-467e...@googlegroups.com...

>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>> > Michael Pendragon wrote:

>>> > > Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>> > > > I reposted the RN stats in response to direct questioning.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Just to quickly keep the record straight on that.
>>> > >
>>> > > No one gives a shit, Will.
>>> >
>>> > Learn to read. He said you people questioned him about the stats, not
>>> > that
>>> > you give a shit about them.
>>>
>>> Yes, and it should be about time to check those statistics again... heh.
>>>
>>> Speaking of something someone here /always/ gives a GIANT shit about, my
>>> current visage, which I will be giving to Zod to see how his painting for
>>> possible use on the book turns out:
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156856118059363&set=a.10155233164054363&type=3
>>>
>>> > I call it, if Zod agrees, "Blue Moves".
>>>
>>> Sounds like a gay porn flick.

>> Everything seems gay to you, Pendragon... your hidden desires coming to the
>> surface, perhaps?


> What an odd little man Pen is...

He's a most peculiar man.

[W.Dockery]

I'm sure he'll remind us again eventually.

🙂

[General-Zod]

Pathetic but sadly so, probably...

[W.Dockery]

Then again, maybe not.

Maybe Pendragon has turned a new "Yeaf."

🙂

[General-Zod]

Ha ha ha...

[W.Dockery]

He just seems to like stirring up controversy.

[W.Dockery]

George Dance wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 2:25:47 PM UTC-4, MIchael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 1:39:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 1:31:22 PM UTC-4, MIchael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
>> > > > > > On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 12:40:18 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 10:58:48 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > "Deny it all you want to, George, but both Jim and I (and probably others) remember the "Pretty Colors"/LSD post."
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Yes, indeed. Dockery wrote of waiting for Katherine to come home from work and dropping acid to see pretty colors.
>> > > > > > > For those who don't remember it, it's easy enough to look up:
>> > > > > > > <quote>
>> > > > > > > It was 1981 in Atlanta, a Friday night, we had just put in a full week at work, the baby was at a sitter, and we considered ourselves rather "hip".
>> > > > > > > So in that context, I, and we, saw no problem with taking a doise and watching the pretty colors.
>> > > > > > > So I take it you're anti drugs, Jim Senetto, and that is fine, but not everyone had as conservative mentality as you apparently do.
>> > > > > > > So, no apology here either.
>> > > > > > > 😀 </q>
>> > > > > > > > It was a rather lengthy look into the life of Will Dockery.
>> > > > > > > No, it wasn't. Jim's being honest enough; he was talking about the post as he "remembers" it. But he's not telling the truth about the post Will actually wrote.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > That's not the only time. Let's look at what else they've been writing about that post:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 'Jim and I both remember Will's saying that he invited Kathy to the lumber yard after work to drop acid and look at the "pretty colors" the night she disappeared. I'm sure that others here remember it as well.'
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 'Will also wrote that on the night Kathy disappeared, he had invited her to join him in the back room of the lumber yard (where he was squatting at the time) to drop some acid together so that they could enjoy the pretty colors.'
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 'you had written that you had been living in the back room of the lumber yard at the night of her disappearance and had invited her to drop acid with you after work and look at the "pretty colors."'
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Now reread the "pretty colors" post, and notice that it says that Will and Kathy had planned to drop acid that night -- but not at the "lumber yard". There is no fricking mention of any "lumber yard."
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > The passage you've quoted is not the original post, as Will is *responding* to Jim's questions about the original.
>> > > > > > > So how did that get into the story? Michael Monkey confused what he read with something that happened to Will at another time, and imagined it into the story. He made it up.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > In fact, Will was living with his wife and son, and he'd "invited" Kathy to come home. But both Jim and Michael are convinced that, no, Will was not living with Kathy but all alone in a "lumber yard." Michael is convinced because he imagined it, and Jim is convinced because that's what Michael told him.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > No, George, Will had originally set it in the back room at the lumber yard. It was also in one of the 500-ish revisions on your wiki, as Will quotes and responds to me regarding this in the current version of "The Atlanta Years":
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Michael Pendragon: "In the wiki bio, it seems like you were only living with T, and went straight from squatting in an apartment with her to squatting at a lumber yard alone..."
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Okay, that was off, and I'll need to change/clarify that..
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > In one of his early drafts, Will had either directly stated, or made it appear as if such were the case, that he'd gone "straight from squatting in an apartment (La Maison) with [Kathy] to squatting at a lumber yard alone."
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Based on the "off" information discussed above, the "pretty colors" story (the night of Kathy's disappearance) would have been set in the lumber yard.
>> > > > > > > > From there it became his vow to not write about personal things on family and friends.
>> > > > > > > > But the damage, as they say, had been done.
>> > > > > > > > His first 'off the cuff' post on all things in the Dockery life was almost written
>> > > > > > > > with a certain pride, his belief that Kerouac had it right and as far as he was concerned, he would follow that lead.
>> > > > > > > > The rest is the breakdown of such thoughts.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > It makes no difference to me that Mr. Dance thinks he has it right and Michael and I have it wrong.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Probably not. But it does make a difference who is telling the truth. And Jim and Michael have not been telling the truth. Not just about this one post either. They've claimed their major source was Will's "autobiography" on Penny's Poetry Pages -- not the present version, but "earlier versions" which Will is supposed to have rewritten and then deleted (but they claimed to remember). Yet, the earlier versions all still exist, and they don't back any of those claims. Once again, they're honest enough about their memories, but they don't actually remember what their sources said. Michael remembered what he imagined, and Jim remembered what Michael told him.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > We can't quote the sources verbatim, if that's what you mean.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > However, it is indisputably clear from the current version of "Will Dockery: The Atlanta Years" that he had originally either stated, or unintentionally made it appear as though he had, that he went straight from La Maison to squatting in the back room of the lumber yard which would have then been the setting for the "Pretty Colors" incident on the night of Kathy's disappearance.
>> > > >
>> > > > No, I wasn't sleeping at the lumber yard at that time.
>> > > >
>> > > > > Any incorrect information Jim or I have posted is *based* upon Will's autobiographies, poetry, and discussion
>> > > >
>> > > > No, it looks like you either misremember what you read, Pendragon. I wouldn't have posted anything that far from what happened, even in my poetry.
>> > > >
>> > > Then please explain the following exchange that you've quoted in your autobiography:
>> > > Michael Pendragon: "In the wiki bio, it seems like you were only living with T, and went straight from squatting in an apartment with her to squatting at a lumber yard alone..."
>> > > WD: Okay, that was off, and I'll need to change/clarify that... looks like a jump cut that left off the last few weeks at La Maison Apartments in which the relationship with T went downhill... and there are a /lot/ of episodes and ideas for poems just in those few weeks that have not been written about, either in poetry, prose fiction or non-fiction.
>> > As I wrote earlier, you appear to have misunderstood what was written, Pendragon.

>> Really?
>>
>> Please explain how "Okay, that was off, and I'll need to change/clarify that..." constitutes a misunderstanding on my part.

> What you told him the bio said {"it seems like you were only living with T, and went straight from squatting in an apartment with her to squatting at a lumber yard alone") was "off."
> Off adj.
> 3a: not corresponding to fact : INCORRECT
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/off

Again, exactly.

:)

[General-Zod]

Yep...

[W.Dockery]

Good evening again Zod, and thanks.

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:

> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:b4fb72c8-f136-467e...@googlegroups.com...
>>> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 4:24:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 1:38:59 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
>>> > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:49:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> > > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:16:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> > > > I reposted the RN stats in response to direct questioning.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Just to quickly keep the record straight on that.
>>> > >
>>> > > No one gives a shit, Will.
>>> >
>>> > Learn to read. He said you people questioned him about the stats, not
>>> > that
>>> > you give a shit about them.
>>>
>>> Yes, and it should be about time to check those statistics again... heh.
>>>
>>> Speaking of something someone here /always/ gives a GIANT shit about, my
>>> current visage, which I will be giving to Zod to see how his painting for
>>> possible use on the book turns out:
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156856118059363&set=a.10155233164054363&type=3
>>>
>>> I call it, if Zod agrees, "Blue Moves".
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like a gay porn flick.

> Like I said way back when, everything seems gay to you, Pendragon... your hidden desires coming to the surface, perhaps?

> HTH and HAND.


Pen is strange, perhaps a self-hating gay man, closeted..?

[W.Dockery]

To be honest, I couldn't care less, either way.

🙂

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:
>>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>>>> news:b4fb72c8-f136-467e...@googlegroups.com...

>>>>> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:24:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:

>>>>> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:38:59 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>> > > Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>>>> > > > I reposted the RN stats in response to direct questioning.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Just to quickly keep the record straight on that.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > No one gives a shit, Will.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Learn to read. He said you people questioned him about the stats, not
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > you give a shit about them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and it should be about time to check those statistics again... heh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of something someone here /always/ gives a GIANT shit about, my
>>>>> current visage, which I will be giving to Zod to see how his painting for
>>>>> possible use on the book turns out:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156856118059363&set=a.10155233164054363&type=3
>>>>>
>>>>> I call it, if Zod agrees, "Blue Moves".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a gay porn flick.

>>> Like I said way back when, everything seems gay to you, Pendragon... your hidden desires coming to the surface, perhaps?

>>> HTH and HAND.


>> Pen is strange, perhaps a self-hating gay man, closeted..?

> To be honest, I couldn't care less, either way.

I know that's right... ha ha.

[W.Dockery]

Pewndragon seems proud of that fact.

:)

[W.Dockery]

Good afternoon, my friend.

🙂

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >> When the mill shut down,
> >> we hit the pavement with a thud,
> >> then we all got up and kept walking.
> >> Some to the work house,
> >> some to the poor house,
> >> some to the whorehouse,
> >> and the grave.
> >>
> >> -Will Dockery

Again, a good read...

[W.Dockery]

Thanks again.

:)

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >
> >> When the mill shut down,
> >> we hit the pavement with a thud,
> >> then we all got up and kept walking.
> >> Some to the work house,
> >> some to the poor house,
> >> some to the whorehouse,
> >> and the grave.
> >>
> >> -Will Dockery

A good read , 15th time...

[W.Dockery]

Thanks again for reading and commenting, Zod.

[General-Zod]

Good day and you are welcome...!

[General-Zod]

Again... for Dr. David Dalton, another of the fine poems to be found here on the Usenet poetry groups...!

[W.Dockery]

Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>>> >> When the mill shut down,
>>>> >> we hit the pavement with a thud,
>>>> >> then we all got up and kept walking.
>>>> >> Some to the work house,
>>>> >> some to the poor house,
>>>> >> some to the whorehouse,
>>>> >> and the grave.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -Will Dockery

>>

> good read...

Good evening, thanks again for the nod.

[W.Dockery]

Thanks again for the nod, Zod.

[W.Dockery]

Delusional fuckwit.

🙂

[W.Dockery]

> good read

Good morning, again, thanks for the nod.

🙂

[W.Dockery]

Odder every day.

[W.Dockery]

I know, right?

[W.Dockery]

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> >> When the mill shut down,
>>> >> we hit the pavement with a thud,
>>> >> then we all got up and kept walking.
>>> >> Some to the work house,
>>> >> some to the poor house,
>>> >> some to the whorehouse,
>>> >> and the grave.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Will Dockery

> Again...

> fine poem

Thanks again for reading and commenting.

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:

To say the least... ha ha ha.

That is all.

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:

> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:b4fb72c8-f136-467e...@googlegroups.com...
>>> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 4:24:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 1:38:59 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:

>>> > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:49:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:

>>> > > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:16:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> > > > I reposted the RN stats in response to direct questioning.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Just to quickly keep the record straight on that.
>>> > >
>>> > > No one gives a shit, Will.
>>> >
>>> > Learn to read. He said you people questioned him about the stats, not
>>> > that
>>> > you give a shit about them.
>>>
>>> Yes, and it should be about time to check those statistics again... heh.
>>>
>>> Speaking of something someone here /always/ gives a GIANT shit about, my
>>> current visage, which I will be giving to Zod to see how his painting for
>>> possible use on the book turns out:
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156856118059363&set=a.10155233164054363&type=3
>>>
>>> I call it, if Zod agrees, "Blue Moves".
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like a gay porn flick.

> Like I said way back when, everything seems gay to you, Pendragon... your hidden desires coming to the surface, perhaps?

> HTH and HAND.


That definitely seems true with Penhead's fantasies about me and Mike....!

That is all.

[W.Dockery]

As Pendragon demonstrates every day.

🙂

[W.Dockery]

Pendragon definitely has a fixation with gay laming in his flame and attack posts.

[General-Zod]

Will Dockery wrote:

> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:b4fb72c8-f136-467e...@googlegroups.com...
>>> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 4:24:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 1:38:59 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
>>> > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:49:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> > > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:16:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> > > > I reposted the RN stats in response to direct questioning.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Just to quickly keep the record straight on that.
>>> > >
>>> > > No one gives a shit, Will.
>>> >
>>> > Learn to read. He said you people questioned him about the stats, not
>>> > that
>>> > you give a shit about them.
>>>
>>> Yes, and it should be about time to check those statistics again... heh.
>>>
>>> Speaking of something someone here /always/ gives a GIANT shit about, my
>>> current visage, which I will be giving to Zod to see how his painting for
>>> possible use on the book turns out:
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156856118059363&set=a.10155233164054363&type=3
>>>
>>> I call it, if Zod agrees, "Blue Moves".
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like a gay porn flick.

> Like I said way back when, everything seems gay to you, Pendragon... your hidden desires coming to the surface, perhaps?

> HTH and HAND.

Like Penhead is currently slobbering over his fantasies about me and Mike in a tent... ha ha...

[W.Dockery]

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>>> news:b4fb72c8-f136-467e...@googlegroups.com...

>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>>> Speaking of something someone here /always/ gives a GIANT shit about, my
>>>> current visage, which I will be giving to Zod to see how his painting for
>>>> possible use on the book turns out:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156856118059363&set=a.10155233164054363&type=3
>>>>
>>>> I call it, if Zod agrees, "Blue Moves".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like a gay porn flick.

>> Like I said way back when, everything seems gay to you, Pendragon... your hidden desires coming to the surface, perhaps?

>> HTH and HAND.

> Like Penhead is currently slobbering over his fantasies about me and Mike in a tent... ha ha...

Typical fixation of Pendragon's, obviously.

;)