WOT: Health Care
Joan in GB-W
like it:
Joan
Senior Health Care Solution
So you're a senior citizen and the government says no health care for
you, what do you do?
Our plan gives anyone 65 years or older a gun and 4 bullets. Your
are allowed to shoot 2 senators and 2 representatives. Of Course,
this means you will be sent to prison where you will get 3 meals a
day, a roof over your head, and all the health care you need! New
teeth, no problem. Need glasses, great. New hip, knees, kidney,
lungs, heart? All covered.
And who will be paying for all of this? The same government that
just told you that you are too old for health care. Plus, because
you are a prisoner, you don't have to pay any income taxes anymore.
IS THIS A GREAT COUNTRY OR WHAT?!
Chris F.A. Johnson
> This isn't original and, in fact, might have been posted here before. I
> like it:
>
> Joan
>
> Senior Health Care Solution
>
> So you're a senior citizen and the government says no health care for
> you, what do you do?
>
> Our plan gives anyone 65 years or older a gun and 4 bullets. Your
> are allowed to shoot 2 senators and 2 representatives.
That should be: 2 clergymen and 2 lawyers. ;)
> Of Course,
> this means you will be sent to prison where you will get 3 meals a
> day, a roof over your head, and all the health care you need! New
> teeth, no problem. Need glasses, great. New hip, knees, kidney,
> lungs, heart? All covered.
>
> And who will be paying for all of this? The same government that
> just told you that you are too old for health care. Plus, because
> you are a prisoner, you don't have to pay any income taxes anymore.
>
> IS THIS A GREAT COUNTRY OR WHAT?!
>
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Willow
control. The direct reverse of the USA.
Perhaps our politicians have some concern for their own health....
Willow
Joan in GB-W
"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 2009-11-19, Joan in GB-W wrote:
>> This isn't original and, in fact, might have been posted here before. I
>> like it:
>>
>> Joan
>>
>> Senior Health Care Solution
>>
>> So you're a senior citizen and the government says no health care for
>> you, what do you do?
>>
>> Our plan gives anyone 65 years or older a gun and 4 bullets. Your
>> are allowed to shoot 2 senators and 2 representatives.
>
> That should be: 2 clergymen and 2 lawyers. ;)
>
> Chris F.A. Johnson
Oh, oh, should the lawyers on RAM take cover?
Joan
Francis A. Miniter
> On 2009-11-19, Joan in GB-W wrote:
>> This isn't original and, in fact, might have been posted here before. I
>> like it:
>>
>> Joan
>>
>> Senior Health Care Solution
>>
>> So you're a senior citizen and the government says no health care for
>> you, what do you do?
>>
>> Our plan gives anyone 65 years or older a gun and 4 bullets. Your
>> are allowed to shoot 2 senators and 2 representatives.
>
> That should be: 2 clergymen and 2 lawyers. ;)
>
>> Of Course,
>> this means you will be sent to prison where you will get 3 meals a
>> day, a roof over your head, and all the health care you need! New
>> teeth, no problem. Need glasses, great. New hip, knees, kidney,
>> lungs, heart? All covered.
>>
>> And who will be paying for all of this? The same government that
>> just told you that you are too old for health care. Plus, because
>> you are a prisoner, you don't have to pay any income taxes anymore.
>>
>> IS THIS A GREAT COUNTRY OR WHAT?!
>>
>
>
Thanks a lot, Chris. But shooting lawyers and clergymen
will only get you state prison and probably very poor food
and health care. You need to keep this Federal if you want
the benefits.
--
Francis A. Miniter
Oscuramente
libros, laminas, llaves
siguen mi suerte.
Jorge Luis Borges, La Cifra Haiku, 6
Janet
It is amusing, but the fact that that the elderly are in fact the ONLY
segment of the population who are GUARANTEED PUBLIC OPTION HEALTH CARE
tempers my amusement greatly.
What bullshit. Back to the "death panels" and other crap.
Sign me uninsured, paying taxes that pay for the public option healthcare
recieved by the elderly, government workers, legislators and others. And at
this point completely lacking a sense of humor on the subject.
Annie C
"Janet" <box...@maine.rr.com> wrote in message
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> recieved by the elderly, government workers, legislators and others. And
> at this point completely lacking a sense of humor on the subject.
Maybe I missed something or am slow on the uptake, but, as things currently
stand, if you're 65 or older, you are in a far better position having
Medicare health coverage than if you're under 65 and are completely
uninsured! Like me. Sorry, I have no sense of humor about this either.
Guess I don't get the point of the joke, if there is one, since folks 65 and
and over are covered.by Medicare while the rest of us look for ANY option
that might be available..Sigh. I'm confused.
Annie
Stanley Moore
"Joan in GB-W" <jjk...@aol.com> wrote in message
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This could backfire. Many state prison systems release the elderly just so
they won't have to pay for expensive health care for prisoners who are not
dangerous anymore. take care
--
Stanley L. Moore
"The belief in a supernatural
source of evil is not necessary;
men alone are quite capable
of every wickedness."
Joseph Conrad
Bud
>
> This could backfire. Many state prison systems release the elderly just so
> they won't have to pay for expensive health care for prisoners who are not
> dangerous anymore. take care
Hey Stanley, it means you get four more bullets and a gun.
--
Bud
Bud
>
> It is amusing, but the fact that that the elderly are in fact the ONLY
> segment of the population who are GUARANTEED PUBLIC OPTION HEALTH CARE
> tempers my amusement greatly.
>
> What bullshit. Back to the "death panels" and other crap.
>
> Sign me uninsured, paying taxes that pay for the public option healthcare
> recieved by the elderly, government workers, legislators and others. And at
> this point completely lacking a sense of humor on the subject.
But Janet, who is going to help me pay my inflated doctor bills. Thanks
to all those who have a job. Work long and hard please. Medicare doesn't
help much, it hasn't kept up with inflation for, what?, 20 or so years.
--
Bud
Bud
>
> Maybe I missed something or am slow on the uptake, but, as things currently
> stand, if you're 65 or older, you are in a far better position having
> Medicare health coverage than if you're under 65 and are completely
> uninsured! Like me. Sorry, I have no sense of humor about this either.
>
> Guess I don't get the point of the joke, if there is one, since folks 65 and
> and over are covered.by Medicare while the rest of us look for ANY option
> that might be available..Sigh. I'm confused.
> Annie
Lets make it 64 then, or 60, but don't think that Medicare pays all, it
doesn't.
--
Bud
Annie C
"Bud" <b...@bud.invalid> wrote in message
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Yes, I know that. My husband's had Medicare since April. So far, it's great!
As is his supplementary coverage thru Mutual of Omaha. ... But I've a ways
to go til that magic birthday.. Trying my best to stay healthy until then.
Annie
Pogonip
>>
>
> This could backfire. Many state prison systems release the elderly just so
> they won't have to pay for expensive health care for prisoners who are not
> dangerous anymore. take care
My first husband's sentence was commuted when he got Alzheimer's.
--
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congresscritters, and they'd give me lethal injection...
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Janet
Try doing without it completely.
You really have no idea how the other half lives. Medicare "doesn't help
much"???? Get real..
Stanley Moore
I agree. I was intimately involved with my Mother;s care for the last decade
pf her life as well as handling my Father's last illness and Medicare did a
huge amount. Now I must admit they had a medigap insurance from Blue Cross
Blue Shield that took care of the 20$ expenses the Medicare didn't. But on
the whole their out of pocket expenses were almost nothing. One hundrd
dollar annual deductible but that was a bout it.
Daddy had kidney failure the last six months and dialysis is very expensive
but ti was all covered. WHen he died there was on bill for $22. that was
denied. I sent in a check for it and in a month or so they sent it back
saying the insurance had reconsidered and paid it.
Mothe had bypass surgery on her gangrenous leg which I saw the itemized bill
for. It was over 260,000 dollars and we had to pay nothing. Medicare paid
most and the BCBS policy paid the rest.As her executor I had nothing in the
way of medical bills. She did run out of her intial benefits on Medicare
part D which is the drug insurance so that cost me something thoug her
fiorst 7K was covered but after that I had to pa for prescripotion drugs. In
her case she had the bypass in lieu of amputation which would have been
cheaper. Had a rationing system been in place I doubt they would have
apporved bypass on a 93 year old with dementia. That was a huge cost that
Medicare and BCBS paid for completely.
In my experience Medicare workded great. There was virtually no paperwork
had to deal with, no red tape, they paid what her doctor recommended. SO
don; say Medicare isn't much good. Take care
Stanley Moore
"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Stanley Moore wrote:
>>>
>>
>> This could backfire. Many state prison systems release the elderly just
>> so they won't have to pay for expensive health care for prisoners who are
>> not dangerous anymore. take care
>
> My first husband's sentence was commuted when he got Alzheimer's.
> --
They dumped him so the cost of his care would fall on some other budget
rather than the prison system. As the death penalty is being substituted
with Life Without Parole for serious crimes this will happen more and more.
You get 70 band 80 year old prisoners whp are no danger to anyone and who
cost tremendous amounts to house treat and even protect from the other
criminals. Theree strike policies also have a tendency to generate many
older prisoners. It is well known that criminal behavior is strongly
correlated with age. The younger men will be doing most of the crimes while
after late middle age the fires of criminality burn low. Yet they wil;l stay
incarcerated. Take care
Bud
What? you take me for an idiot. Been there, still there. My sister's
hospital bill, with Medicare, is over $20,000.
--
Bud
Janet
And how much do you think it would be WITHOUT Medicare?
You have no idea at all.
Janet
Oh, and BTW, if your sister had been paying for the private insurance I used
to have, The bills for which she would be personally responsible would have
been $15K--PER YEAR --as calculated *after* the bills had been knocked down
by the insurance company, not reflecting the much higher amounts actually
billed--before the insurer ponied up a red cent. And she would be left to
argue with the hospitals and doctors about the amounts not considered
"reasonable" by the insurer, which would have been thousands more. That is,
if she could do a good job arguing from a hospital bed.
Compare that with Stanley's mother's expenses, and then tell me that
Medicare isn't any good.
I have a great idea: if Medicare is useless, how about you and yours
immediately cease to use it and pass the benefits on to MY family or one of
the other uninsured who pays for your Medicare instead? We would be happy to
have it.
Bud
>
> And how much do you think it would be WITHOUT Medicare?
>
> You have no idea at all.
Lessee, my 3 day stay, plus operation to pin and add a rod to my broken
femur, plus 4 pints of blood was over 30K. That's with Mdeicare. that
wont be paid for at my age and income under $800 a month. Now id I had a
chance of having full coverage insurance as the Democrats are
proposing...
--
Bud
Bud
>
> Oh, and BTW, if your sister had been paying for the private insurance I used
> to have, The bills for which she would be personally responsible would have
> been $15K--PER YEAR --as calculated *after* the bills had been knocked down
> by the insurance company, not reflecting the much higher amounts actually
> billed--before the insurer ponied up a red cent. And she would be left to
> argue with the hospitals and doctors about the amounts not considered
> "reasonable" by the insurer, which would have been thousands more. That is,
> if she could do a good job arguing from a hospital bed.
>
> Compare that with Stanley's mother's expenses, and then tell me that
> Medicare isn't any good.
>
> I have a great idea: if Medicare is useless, how about you and yours
> immediately cease to use it and pass the benefits on to MY family or one of
> the other uninsured who pays for your Medicare instead? We would be happy to
> have it.
And the world goes around, I quit.
--
Bud
Janet
I'm sorry but I just don't understand what you are saying here.
Stanley Moore
"Bud" <b...@bud.invalid> wrote in message
Which is why most folks buy a medigap policy that covers the 20% not paid by
Medicare. Most doctors and hospitals take the "usual and customary" fees
that Medicare pays as full payment. Blue Cross Blue Shield and AARP as well
as many others sell these policies that pay what Medicare won't. In my
parents case they were worth every penny of the premiums which were under
$250. per month. Take care
Stanley Moore
In fairness because Medicare doesn't cover ALL of the cost it is vitally
improtant to have a Medigap policy to cover the difference. My parents
situation might have been very different without Blue Clue SHield coverage
which thye had to pay premiums for. Obviously the companies that sell these
policies are making a profit on ti somehow. In the case of seniors a
combination of government (Medicare) and private (BCBS) insurance are needed
to get complete coverage. But without Medicare the situation for the elderly
would be devastating. Take care
Carleen
"Bud" <b...@bud.invalid> wrote in message
> And the world goes around, I quit.
> --
> Bud
agreed, Bud...
and if lecturing an elderly person with serious health problems is
considered a solution to the mess then we are all indeed lost.
{{{Bud}}}
Annie C
"Carleen" <Carl...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hope I didn't appear to be picking on our (((Bud))) either.
This whole health care thing just puts me in a really bad mood and take it
out on others.. At this point, I just hope Congress ends up doing a few
things that improve the situation and control the costs for us all.. and not
make it worse either for seniors or the uninsured.. or any of us. Health
insurance companies are not our friends... and to think I've worked for
several over the years..
Heard on NPR program the other day that the cost of an MRI in Japan is
approx $160.. on average here in the US, it's it's abt. $1700... 10 x
more.. It's nuts. Sigh.. Found a link to the program
http://tinyurl.com/ydzmqj9
Annie
Janet
Yes, but no one was doing that.