Deliverance (Was Ned Beatty really sodomized?)
Robert E. Bennett
This came up on the alt.tv.homicide newsgroup and it is the first time
I have heard it. Ned Beatty was _really_ sodomized in that Deliverance
scene. Can anybody fill in the details? Like, how can something like
that go too far? Supposedly, Ned Beatty confirmed this on "Later with
Bob Costas".
Thanks,
Rob
Shaun Hervey
I heard (gossip, gossip, gossip) that the "actor" was really someone form
the backwoods and that he dropped his pants when they started filming.
This freaked Ned out and he bolted. But seriously, do you think the whole
crew is going to just stand there and watch while Ned gets assaulted?
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Shaun Hervey
Berge Garabedian
>
> This came up on the alt.tv.homicide newsgroup and it is the first time
> I have heard it. Ned Beatty was _really_ sodomized in that Deliverance
> scene. Can anybody fill in the details? Like, how can something like
> that go too far? Supposedly, Ned Beatty confirmed this on "Later with
> Bob Costas".
I heard about this rumour, and from what I know, it has something to
do with the fact that the two actors (or at least one of them) playing
the hilbillies, _were_ real hilbillies. I guess they forgot about the camera.
I heard Burt Reynolds talking on Costas about this very subject. He said
that he is the one that suggested one of the hilbillies ('old friend ??).
He also said that none of the cast of that film really talk about that
scene anymore. Too many bad memories.
That's all I know.
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Ian A. Martin
clear-up the "who's a hillbilly?" question with this from Burt Reynolds:
"Before I got into acting I used to do a Wild West show in
North Carolina... and in this Wild West show there was a guy with no
teeth in front; he couldn't read or write and he stuttered... and I
always thought to myself, God, this guy could be a great actor. Fade
out. Fifteen years later we were trying to desperately to find a guy who
had no teeth in front, because that was a plot point. And I [Burt
Reynolds] said to [producer and director John] Boorman, `I remeber this
guy... and his name is Cowboy Cower.' ...[Cowboy Cower is brought in for
a reading and comes in wearing overalls and no shirt nor shoes, director
is convinced he is coached on this by Reynolds] ... and Boorman hands
him a script. Now I had forgotten to tell Boorman that [Cower] couldn't
read. Boorman said, `Do that part right here,' and of course there's
this _long_, long silence... but then he looked up at Boorman and he
said, `I f-f-f-forgot me glasses.' There was another long moment, then I
said, `That's okay, Cowboy, I'll tell you the lines, and you just say 'em
any way you want to say 'em.' So I said, `The first line is "Get over
there against that tree and take your pants down."' And Cowboy says,
`Get o'... get over there agin that sss... s-s-saplin, and take yer
p-p-p-panties down.' Boorman said, `You've got the part.'... [Boorman
talks $$$ to Cowboy] `Secondly, this man you're going to play, he has sex
with another man. I mean, he _rapes_ another man.' There was this long
silence again and Cowboy said, `Well, that's alright, I done a lot
w-w-w-worse things than that.'"
Earlier, Reynolds had said, "Really, there were four actors from
Hollywood in that picture. And the other guys..."
- all from p. 141 _Take_22_ (Moviemakers on Moviemaking)
by Judith Crist from her Tarrytown Talks
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Buy a copy today (and no, I have no stock holdings in the
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Cliff Heller
>I heard (gossip, gossip, gossip) that the "actor" was really someone form
>the backwoods and that he dropped his pants when they started filming.
>This freaked Ned out and he bolted. But seriously, do you think the whole
>crew is going to just stand there and watch while Ned gets assaulted?
Ned looked like he was enjoying it to me.
Cliff "soooeeeeeee" Heller
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Harold Wexler
>> rob...@Glue.umd.edu (Robert E. Bennett) writes:
>>
>> This came up on the alt.tv.homicide newsgroup and it is the first time
>> I have heard it. Ned Beatty was _really_ sodomized in that Deliverance
>> scene. Can anybody fill in the details? Like, how can something like
>> that go too far? Supposedly, Ned Beatty confirmed this on "Later with
>> Bob Costas".
>
>I heard about this rumour, and from what I know, it has something to
>do with the fact that the two actors (or at least one of them) playing
>the hilbillies, _were_ real hilbillies. I guess they forgot about the camera.
Where the hell is Marsellus Wallace when you really need him? ;-)
"You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by
a damn sight. I'm gonna get MEDIEVAL on yo' ass!"
Harold Wexler
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
hwe...@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
Bob Morris
>rob...@Glue.umd.edu (Robert E. Bennett) wrote:
>>This came up on the alt.tv.homicide newsgroup and it is the first time
>>I have heard it. Ned Beatty was _really_ sodomized in that Deliverance
>>scene. Can anybody fill in the details? Like, how can something like
>>that go too far? Supposedly, Ned Beatty confirmed this on "Later with
>>Bob Costas".
>Can anybody fill in details!
Only his proctologist knows for sure!
Bob Morris
Pudman
>
>This came up on the alt.tv.homicide newsgroup and it is the first time
>I have heard it. Ned Beatty was _really_ sodomized in that Deliverance
>scene. Can anybody fill in the details? Like, how can something like
>that go too far? Supposedly, Ned Beatty confirmed this on "Later with
>Bob Costas".
>
I've seen this discussed elsewhere-either alt.folklore.urban or alt.
cult-movies. NO, he was not really sodomized, but the whole experience
was pretty difficult for him anyway. The actors did get "a little carried
away," but what that seems to mean is that the way they treated the scene
disturbed him. But, come on, think about it...with a whole camera crew there
and so on, don't you feel just a little silly for believing that?
--Pudman
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EPIC
>This came up on the alt.tv.homicide newsgroup and it is the first time
>I have heard it. Ned Beatty was _really_ sodomized in that Deliverance
>scene. Can anybody fill in the details? Like, how can something like
>that go too far? Supposedly, Ned Beatty confirmed this on "Later with
>Bob Costas".
> Thanks,
> Rob
Can anybody fill in de tails!
anthony shipman
>
>
> This came up on the alt.tv.homicide newsgroup and it is the first time
> I have heard it. Ned Beatty was _really_ sodomized in that Deliverance
> scene. Can anybody fill in the details? Like, how can something like
> that go too far? Supposedly, Ned Beatty confirmed this on "Later with
> Bob Costas".
Oh Geez, Is this rec.arts.movies or is it alt.movies.gossip?!
Who will be the first to start the "Is Ned Beatty really GAY" thread?
Having not been there personally, I can't vouch for the reality of
Ned's squeals. However, I saw the actor who was inflicting the "pig
squealing" in a magazine about two months ago (I'll look it up
when I get home and get his name) and it mentioned something
about this performance cutting his career short. Nobody would
touch him (figuratively speaking of course) after that role.
A couple other posts claimed they used "real hillbillies" to
play these two parts in the movie. I don't know about old no-teeth,
but the rapist hillbilly was *definitely* an actor.
BTW, they did use "real hillbillies" to play all those parts like
at the gas station before the canoe ride, and at the house afterwards.
And the big guy who plays the sheriff is James Dickey, the author of
the book and probably the best American poet (along with Wallace Stevens)
of this century (IMHO, of course).
Anthony
fad...@kbbs.com
I know Ned Beatty well and this "real rape" is a crock. Ned still jokes
about it all the time.
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Sean Smith
> I know Ned Beatty well and this "real rape" is a crock. Ned still jokes
> about it all the time.
>
Great, that's settled. Now, can Ned confirm or deny the rumor that one of
the extras hung himself on a tree, and that you can just see his corpse
dangling in the distance during the "Dueling Banjos" sequence?
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Cliff Heller
>I know Ned Beatty well and this "real rape" is a crock. Ned still jokes
>about it all the time.
There's a sketch comedy troupe in New York City called "Squeal Like a Pig"
I thought Ned should know.
fad...@kbbs.com
Ned Beatty was not really sodomized; that's a complete crock. How many
times do I have to post that it's crap. I've known him for 15 years and
he jokes about it all the time.
M.E. Cooper
: Ned Beatty was not really sodomized; that's a complete crock. How many
Rheeee! Rheeeee! Rheeeeeeeeeee!
Greg Lind
wrote:
> fad...@kbbs.com wrote:
>
> : Ned Beatty was not really sodomized; that's a complete crock. How many
> : times do I have to post that it's crap. I've known him for 15 years and
> : he jokes about it all the time.
>
> Rheeee! Rheeeee! Rheeeeeeeeeee!
I also heard that actually rooted around for truffles as well. How
appalling!!
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Russell A. Dillard
really hillbillies did not have thier facts straight. Bill McKinney ( the man who
did the deed)is a legitimate actor and has appeared in other films. Do you really
think that Beatty would voluntarily let that happen? Please!!!!!
Berge Garabedian
Sorry, but the toothless hillbilly _IS_ a hillbilly in real life.
M.E. Cooper
The guy is still lurking somewhere in the mountains. Travelers beware,
especially those with "a right purty mouth."
David Lee
>Berge Garabedian (bm...@musicb.mcgill.ca) wrote:
>: > dil...@eng.auburn.edu (Russell A. Dillard) writes:
>: > No way Ned Beatty was really sodomized! Whoever said that the two men wer
>e
>: > really hillbillies did not have thier facts straight. Bill McKinney ( the
> man who
>: > did the deed)is a legitimate actor and has appeared in other films. Do yo
>u really
>: > think that Beatty would voluntarily let that happen? Please!!!!!
>: Sorry, but the toothless hillbilly _IS_ a hillbilly in real life.
In the movie, one of the hillbillies says something like "he screamed
liked a stuck pig!!" I think most movie goer's imagination can figure
out what happen.. Remember also, two others held Beatty down while the third
did his dirty deed...
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Dennis L Murry
reaalllllly shot.
Dex
David Gulczynski
writes:
>In rec.arts.movies, ste...@infi.net (M.E. Cooper ) writes:
>>Berge Garabedian (bm...@musicb.mcgill.ca) wrote:
>>: > dil...@eng.auburn.edu (Russell A. Dillard) writes:
>>: > No way Ned Beatty was really sodomized! Whoever said that the
two men wer
>>e
>>: > really hillbillies did not have thier facts straight. Bill
McKinney ( the
>> man who
>>: > did the deed)is a legitimate actor and has appeared in other
films. Do yo
>>u really
>>: > think that Beatty would voluntarily let that happen?
Please!!!!!
>
>>: Sorry, but the toothless hillbilly _IS_ a hillbilly in real life.
I saw a Burt Reynolds interview once when he was asked about this scene
this is what Burt said about such.
When filming Deliverence the director asked Burt if he knew anyone who
would make a good "hillbilly" Burt knew a guy who worked in an "Wild
West show" The kind where tourists walk through an "Old West Town"
while actors stage fake gunfights. Burt used to work there when he was
an "unknown". Burt called the place up to ask if they knew where he was
and unbelievably this guy was still there, Burt asked him to play in
the movie, according to Burt this guy really was a HillBilly type he
drove up to the location in a beat-up pickup with his wife and about
five kids. During filming the guy was told to act like he was "roughing
up" Beatty. This guy pulled Beatty pants down and faked sodomy the crew
tried to stop filming but the director had them keep filming because it
was such a powerful scene. After the scene Beatty was so shaken he
wanted to kill that guy, Beatty was such a nervous wreck filming was
stopped for the rest of the day so he could calm down.
Burt didn't say anything about who the other actors were though.
Dave