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BASIC INSTINCT....how many versions? (*spoilers*)

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Lynn Walker

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Mar 23, 1993, 7:11:43 PM3/23/93
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I recently saw BASIC INSTINCT on video, and heard that there was another,
more explicit version (scenes added). Is this true, or is there a different
print released in Europe than the one released in North America?

And here's the spoiler.......

Any dispute as to the ending? I thought it made it obvious that Sharon Stone's
character was the killer, but it seemed like a cheap way to end it, too easy
to figure out.


Thanks,
Lynn

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Gregg William Riedel

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Mar 23, 1993, 10:37:57 PM3/23/93
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|> And here's the spoiler.......
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|> Any dispute as to the ending? I thought it made it obvious that Sharon Stone's
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In this month's Vanity Fair, there is a large interview with Sharon
Stone. Paul Verhoeven (the director of BI) says something to the effect
of "I thought we made it *obvious* that Catherine was the killer."
Of course, after seeing Basic Instinct and Total Recall, I don't
think that Verhoeven quite understands the definition of "obvious." :)

Gregg
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Cliff Chen

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Mar 24, 1993, 1:11:34 AM3/24/93
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In article <1993Mar24.0...@pony.Ingres.COM> wal...@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker) writes:
>I recently saw BASIC INSTINCT on video, and heard that there was another,
>more explicit version (scenes added). Is this true, or is there a different
>print released in Europe than the one released in North America?

Yes, the version shown in Europe includes the scenes which were cut
to make the movie R rather than NC-17. These scenes and a few others have
been released on the Basic Instinct Director's Cut videotape (should be
available soon).

>And here's the spoiler.......

>Any dispute as to the ending? I thought it made it obvious that Sharon Stone's
>character was the killer, but it seemed like a cheap way to end it, too easy
>to figure out.

Actually, if you want to be technical about things, and I don't want
to restart the discussion on this, but it is NOT possible to determine who
the killer was. It could have been either woman. There is NO proof one way
or the other.

Cliff Chen
ch...@cs.jhu.edu

Stephanie A. Johnson

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Mar 24, 1993, 11:17:25 AM3/24/93
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I don't know if Sharon Stone was the killer. It seems to me
that she is the type of woman who would get off on having
everyone think she was the killer, and then would further get
off on knowing that she could kill again at any time. Of
course, any ice pick stabbings involved, and the world would
beat a path to her door.

David Spanagel

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Mar 24, 1993, 9:44:21 PM3/24/93
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In article <1ool2l$5...@bingsunm.cc.binghamton.edu> con...@bingsunm.cc.binghamton.edu (Gregg William Riedel) writes:
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>|> Any dispute as to the ending? I thought it made it obvious that Sharon Stone's
>|> character was the killer, but it seemed like a cheap way to end it, too easy
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> In this month's Vanity Fair, there is a large interview with Sharon
>Stone. Paul Verhoeven (the director of BI) says something to the effect
>of "I thought we made it *obvious* that Catherine was the killer."
> Of course, after seeing Basic Instinct and Total Recall, I don't
>think that Verhoeven quite understands the definition of "obvious." :)
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>Gregg

In a recent interview (on "Larry King Live" I think), Michael Douglas
said that Catherine was the killer. Whether it's obvious is another
question. It wasn't to me, but upon viewing it a second time, I noticed
one clue that seemed to point to Catherine - aside from the icepick,
which could have been planted.

Remember that the woman psychologist said that she got a call from MD's
partner telling her to meet him? Well, when MD and the other cops
get back to her apartment, they find no message from MD's partner on
the answering machine... but find a blank, unused tape in it instead.
Now it seems to me that if the woman lied about receiving the phone call,
she would still have a tape in her answering machine with other messages
on it. The fact that the cassette is new suggests that Catherine put
it in to frame her: I think it highly unlikely that the woman shrink just
happened to need a new tape for her machine. (Sorry for not using the
characters' names, but I don't remember them!)

David Calwell

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Mar 25, 1993, 4:31:52 PM3/25/93
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>In article <1ool2l$5...@bingsunm.cc.binghamton.edu>
>con...@bingsunm.cc.binghamton.edu (Gregg William Riedel) writes:
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>>|> Any dispute as to the ending? I thought it made it obvious that Sharon
>Stone's
>>|> character was the killer, but it seemed like a cheap way to end it, too easy
>>|> to figure out.
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>> In this month's Vanity Fair, there is a large interview with Sharon
>>Stone. Paul Verhoeven (the director of BI) says something to the effect
>>of "I thought we made it *obvious* that Catherine was the killer."

>In a recent interview (on "Larry King Live" I think), Michael Douglas
>said that Catherine was the killer. Whether it's obvious is another
>question.

I thought that an easy way to find out who the killer is , would be to watch
the breasts. The one thing (two things) that the killer,Catherine and the
Physc. all let us see fairly well are the breasts. And breasts can be fairly
unique, sort of like fingerprints. Gee, you'd need a pretty large ink pad.

Of course this theory falls down when you consider body doubles.

OK, well at least it proves Micheal Douglas didnt do it.

I just thought of another one, was the killer a natural blonde??

Brilliant hey, you people just have to start thinking on the right level.

About to take a cold shower

Dave

Mark Busby

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Mar 26, 1993, 7:49:10 AM3/26/93
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Well maybe the phycologist was the killer and then Sharon Stone's character thought wow
that looks fun I'll give it ago....
then again at the start i thought that it was Stone then it was the phycologist
then Stone, then at the end i wasnt so sure but i finally settled on
the psycologist as i can't believe that they would make the end so
obvious (weak or what).But then again maybe it is a double bluff by stone to
frame the other girl but did the other one (Catherine? the psycologist) want to
be stone or the other way round in which case the whole thing would be reversed
then again i'm english so easily confused.

i guess if it wasn't stone she must be real unlucky to have her parents and
boyfriend and various associates die so i sure as hell wouldn't go around with
her. So Douglas's character must be mad and probabley deserves to die with an ice
pick in his head.

As an aside....
Did the book come first or second... was/is the ending the same?

I think the book came first but i'm not too sure.

Mark

PS I can not spell psycologist.

Dave Parry

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Mar 26, 1993, 8:46:28 AM3/26/93
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David Spanagel (span...@husc11.harvard.edu) wrote:

: In a recent interview (on "Larry King Live" I think), Michael Douglas


: said that Catherine was the killer. Whether it's obvious is another
: question. It wasn't to me, but upon viewing it a second time, I noticed
: one clue that seemed to point to Catherine - aside from the icepick,
: which could have been planted.

I don't think it's that important that Catherine is obviously the
killer. I think what made the end of the film for me was that I
suspected that the Kirk Douglas character still had a sneaking feeling
that Catherine was the killer, but his desire for her (intensified
because of his fear) was so powerful, that he was willing to risk his
life in return for that rush.

Dave
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Gary Hypes

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Apr 7, 1993, 4:04:09 PM4/7/93
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Whew... A phycologist is a specialist in algae. I thought Basic
Instinct was kinky, but the thought of doing it with ALGAE is just plain
perverted...

:-) Gary Hypes

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