DEMOLITION MAN - PIZZA HUT
Daniel Raeside
In a previous article, ka...@skom.se (Kalle Paulsson) says:
>I'm sure this must have been discussed before, but I just HAVE to know the
>story of the bad dubbing in Demolition Man! :-)
>
>On the videorelease (Haven't seen the theatrical) here in Sweden, you can
>clearly see Stallone saying something else than Pizza Hut. Is it like this
>also in the US video/theatrical?
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In the restaurant scene, the *restaurant* was TACO BELL.
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gary cooper
>I'm sure this must have been discussed before, but I just HAVE to know the
>story of the bad dubbing in Demolition Man! :-)
>On the videorelease (Haven't seen the theatrical) here in Sweden, you can
>clearly see Stallone saying something else than Pizza Hut. Is it like this
>also in the US video/theatrical?
In Demolition Man, all future restaurants have become Taco Bell's - a
"mexican" fast food place in the US - they must not have them there,
hence the change to Pizza Hut.
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The original American cut has Taco Bell winning the restaraunt wars.
Anyone know why it was changed for the European release?
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Michael Kreisler <krei...@mailbox.mail.umn.edu> wrote:
>In article <Csvq7...@skom.se>, ka...@skom.se (Kalle Paulsson) wrote:
>
>> I'm sure this must have been discussed before, but I just HAVE to know the
>> story of the bad dubbing in Demolition Man! :-)
>>
>> On the videorelease (Haven't seen the theatrical) here in Sweden, you can
>> clearly see Stallone saying something else than Pizza Hut. Is it like this
>> also in the US video/theatrical?
>
>Anyone know why it was changed for the European release?
Perhaps because there are no Taco Bells out of the US? So the joke might
be lost? I think the producers approached several fast food chains to be
featured in the movie and TB agreed - free advertising I guess.
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Christopher Edward Wrike
Actually, the Pizza Hut and Taco Bell are both owned by
the same company, Pepsico. They also own KFC, and I seem to
remember some people saying they saw KFC's in the movie. I
guess Pepsico just wanted to get different resturants promoted
in different countries. Don't know if there are any Taco Bells
outside of the U.S.
--Chris Wrike
Kalle Paulsson
> Anyone know why it was changed for the European release?
Well, we don't have any Taco Bells over here. At least not in Sweden.
gary cooper
>Well, we don't have any Taco Bells over here. At least not in Sweden.
count yourself lucky....
Matthew Burfeind
: in different countries. Don't know if there are any Taco Bells
: outside of the U.S.
There are some in England (at least one that I know of in London). but I
don't know about Sweden.
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D J Batey
> Anyone know why it was changed for the European release?
Well, I'd go with the 'Taco Bell doesn't exist outside the US'
explanation, except that here in the UK, there was no change, and we
have no Taco Bells...
Duncan.
Michael Kreisler
Nothing in this business is free. Anyone know how much Pepsi had to pay to
get Taco Bell and Pizza Hut in the film? On a related note, in "Repo Man",
all products are generic and labeled so because the producers couldn't get
any companies to endorse the film. The items are labeled "Beer" or "Potato
Chips" or whatever. If you see it again, pay attention to the labels.
It's kinda cool.
Mark Watson
Michael Kreisler <krei...@mailbox.mail.umn.edu> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure this must have been discussed before, but I just HAVE to know the
>> story of the bad dubbing in Demolition Man! :-)
>>
>> On the videorelease (Haven't seen the theatrical) here in Sweden, you can
>> clearly see Stallone saying something else than Pizza Hut. Is it like this
>> also in the US video/theatrical?
>
>Anyone know why it was changed for the European release?
>
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I understand it was changed because Taco Bell's presence in Europe is very
minor, compared to Pizza Hut. Since, they are both owned by PepsiCo, it
is OK (in their corporate eyes, anyway) to switch them for the particular
market where the movie is to play.
Any other areas where the switch was noticed ?
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Adam Neil Villani
OK, here's an extremely vaguely related question. Was anyone else bothered
by the way they pronounced "Taco Bell"? Well, actually the way they
inflected it. They emphasized the "Bell" so it sounded like "Taco BELL,"
whereas I've always heard it pronounced "TAco Bell," with the emphasis
on the first syllable. How do you guys pronounce it, and what part of
the country are you from? I'm from L.A.
Where are Sandra Bullock and Sylvester Stallone from?
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Harold Roberts <rob...@master.lds-az.loral.com> wrote:
>One other thing too... You'd think that the filmmakers would have
>chosen a company - say Pizza Hut - that is more widely known, for their
>"winner of the resturant wars." Apparently Taco Hell (PepsiCo) coughed
>up the most money and thus was declared the winner.
>
Actually, I suppose it depends on which region of the country you're from.
In Long Beach, CA, where I grew up (appx. Population 400,000) there were
17 Taco Bells. I'm not sure how many Pizza Huts there are, since those
really only began to proliferate like hell a few years ago.
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gary cooper
>OK, here's an extremely vaguely related question. Was anyone else bothered
>by the way they pronounced "Taco Bell"? Well, actually the way they
>inflected it. They emphasized the "Bell" so it sounded like "Taco BELL,"
>whereas I've always heard it pronounced "TAco Bell," with the emphasis
>on the first syllable. How do you guys pronounce it, and what part of
>the country are you from? I'm from L.A.
Taco BELL - Northern Virginia.
>Where are Sandra Bullock and Sylvester Stallone from?
Dunno 'bout sly (NY?), but Sandra's from about 5 miles from
where I'm typing...
Harold Roberts
Sorry Duncan but you're wrong... Well unless the Taco Hell in between
Liecster (sp?) Square and Piccadilly Circus (in London for those who don't
know) is still there. There was one there about 6 years ago. I had the
misfortune of being with some friends who wanted to go there for lunch.
They must ship their food from the states - it tastes just like the sh*t
you get at Taco Hell over here...
It is strange that the filmmakers would leave a resturant reference (a
very heavy reference in "Demolition Man") in when the "resturant" (I use
that term *very* loosely for TB (interesting initials ;-))) is not very
prevelant in the country which it is shown. I'm sure that TB isn't as
wide spread <g> as say McDonalds, Pizza Hut, or KFC in the UK. If it is
still in London, what other UK cities has there been an outbreak of TB
sighted?
One other thing too... You'd think that the filmmakers would have
chosen a company - say Pizza Hut - that is more widely known, for their
"winner of the resturant wars." Apparently Taco Hell (PepsiCo) coughed
up the most money and thus was declared the winner.
Harold
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What I forgot to put in was ... more widely known - worldwide...
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gary cooper <coo...@access1.digex.net> wrote:
>ad...@cco.caltech.edu (Adam Neil Villani) writes:
>
>
>>OK, here's an extremely vaguely related question. Was anyone else bothered
>>by the way they pronounced "Taco Bell"? Well, actually the way they
>>inflected it. They emphasized the "Bell" so it sounded like "Taco BELL,"
>>whereas I've always heard it pronounced "TAco Bell," with the emphasis
>>on the first syllable. How do you guys pronounce it, and what part of
>>the country are you from? I'm from L.A.
>
>Taco BELL - Northern Virginia.
>
>>Where are Sandra Bullock and Sylvester Stallone from?
>
>Dunno 'bout sly (NY?), but Sandra's from about 5 miles from
>where I'm typing...
>
>
Someone mailed me something similar, and they're from L.A. Hmm... Maybe I'm
just weird.
Then again, I was probably about 7 years old the last time I ate at one.
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D J Batey
> >explanation, except that here in the UK, there was no change, and we
> >have no Taco Bells...
>
> Liecster (sp?) Square and Piccadilly Circus (in London for those who don't
> know) is still there. There was one there about 6 years ago.
OK, so we have (or maybe had) ONE Taco Bell in the country (I've been
to the Smoke a few times in the past couple of years, and never seen
it, so maybe...). The majority of UK cinema-goers will still have
never heard of Taco Bell, and yet they STILL left the reference in the
film.
Was the Swedish cut actually dubbed into Swedish? If so, they probably
thought they might as well change 'Taco Bell' to something more well
known, like 'Pizza Hut', while they were at it. For the UK release, it
probably wouldn't seem worth their while changing the reference, since
they weren't going to redub the rest of the film into cockney rhyming
slang or something...
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>Was the Swedish cut actually dubbed into Swedish? If so, they probably
>thought they might as well change 'Taco Bell' to something more well
>known, like 'Pizza Hut', while they were at it. For the UK release, it
>probably wouldn't seem worth their while changing the reference, since
>they weren't going to redub the rest of the film into cockney rhyming
>slang or something...
Well, I've seen the original version over here in Germany, and it was
Pizza Hut. Strangely enough all the company logos in the background
also said Pizza Hut, complete with the red roof. If it's really Taco
Bell in America, then they must have reshot a few scenes for the Eu-
ropean release, too.
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D J Batey
> Well, I've seen the original version over here in Germany, and it was
> Pizza Hut. Strangely enough all the company logos in the background
> also said Pizza Hut, complete with the red roof. If it's really Taco
> Bell in America, then they must have reshot a few scenes for the Eu-
> ropean release, too.
... which is where I came in, saying that in the UK, it was Taco Bell.
Since we (apparently) have (or had) only one Taco Bell in the UK, and
Bob knows how many Pizza Huts, why didn't we get the Pizza Hut version?
> May the Cool Be with You!
And also with you.
Geir O'Jensen
states TACO BELL everywhere. Have they redone the logo on the food
container the "bad guys" drops after the attack on the restaurant? What
about the car logo and the door logos?
This all seems rather stupid to me, since we've never heard of either
Taco Bell of Pizza Hut in Norway. And to remake the movie with "Petters
Pizza" or "Peppe's Pizza" would be rather stupid...
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Did you all see Wayne's World, they also had a HUGE Pepsico promotion
thing going on. There was that one line where Garth says "I think
it's really stupid the way people do things just for money" I agree
you can't shit your pants without somebody trying to make money off
you. America is completely commercialized and money hungry. Granted,
I've been an American all my life and I know no other way so I'm
obviously just as Capitalist as everybody else in this Godforsaken
country. Well, I'm off my soapbox, or am I? Am I making any sense?
Probably not. I'm completely psycho!!!
Joy Bumbaca - a completely whacked neurotic
Tony Stott
called "Taco Bill", so we'd understand the joke.
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D J Batey
> ripoff called "Taco Bill", so we'd understand the joke.
But not enough for me or any of my friends and acquaintances to ever
have seen one. Your average Brit wouldn't know a Taco Bell if it came
up and inserted itself nasally. To my knowledge there is only one Taco
Bell in England, and that's in London, a place most of us try real
hard to avoid. A few of us got the joke cos we'd been to California,
where the things are rife, but the rest had never heard of the things.
Andrew Glisson
Well, I'm psycho TOO!
(Actually, you have to admit, the commercialism sequence in WW was pretty
funny...)
I have a friend who HATED Demolition Man (haven't seen it personally) but I
loved the way he always refered to it as "That Really Long Taco Bell
Comercial."
And what about this Roc Donalds thing in Flinstones? Lame or what? And
what about Simba munching on a Whopper in TLK??? And those obvious Red
Rider BB Gun (TM) references in a Christmas story? Or BIC shavers in Wolf?
Or Jurassic Park in Jurassic Park?
Anyway.....
Is it just me or does anyone think this is getting outta hand?
(Product promotion in movies, that is, and not my rambling)
-Andy
Agon Buchholz
[ Two different Versions of _Demolition Man_ in US and Europe ]
Hi Laurence,
lcc> >The original American cut has Taco Bell winning the restaraunt
lcc> >wars. Anyone know why it was changed for the European release?
lcc> Perhaps because there are no Taco Bells out of the US? So the joke
lcc> might be lost? I think the producers approached several fast food
lcc> chains to be featured in the movie and TB agreed - free advertising
lcc> I guess.
What joke? I would call it Product Placement or even Bartering, but not
"free advertising". If ther *are* two versions of _Demolition Man_, than
they exist only because of an intervention of the Taco Bell-Company; why
should they *pay* for adds, if more than 50% of the tagetted audience
doesn't know the product? It's no joke, it's just business.
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Yes! I didn't see Demolition Man but the whole promotion thing is
obnoxious. When I was talking about the "Wayne's World" thing, I
thought
it was funny too and I brought it up because it went along with the
point of the commercialization. Of course, what we capitalism be
without mass media using mass commercialization. We probably
couldn't function as a society (just kidding).
D J Batey
> lcc> Perhaps because there are no Taco Bells out of the US? So the joke
> lcc> might be lost?
>
> What joke? [...] It's no joke, it's just business.
How come we all laughed, then? Or is business funny?
Agon Buchholz
[ Two different Versions of _Demolition Man_ in US and Europe ]
Hi Laurence,
lcc> >The original American cut has Taco Bell winning the restaraunt
lcc> >wars. Anyone know why it was changed for the European release?
lcc> Perhaps because there are no Taco Bells out of the US? So the joke
lcc> might be lost? I think the producers approached several fast food
lcc> chains to be featured in the movie and TB agreed - free advertising
lcc> I guess.
What joke? I'd call it 'Product Placement' or even 'Bartering', but not
'free advertising', like you wrote. If there *are* two versions of
_Demolition Man_, than they exist only because of a kind of intervention
by the Taco Bell-Company (BTW: who owns it ?); why should they *pay* for
these adds, if more than 50% of the tagetted audience doesn't know the
product? So it was no joke, just business.
paul m McMahon
>What joke? I'd call it 'Product Placement' or even 'Bartering', but not
>'free advertising', like you wrote. If there *are* two versions of
>_Demolition Man_, than they exist only because of a kind of intervention
>by the Taco Bell-Company (BTW: who owns it ?); why should they *pay* for
>these adds, if more than 50% of the tagetted audience doesn't know the
>product? So it was no joke, just business.
Both Taco Bell and Pizza Hut ( Along with Kentucky Fried Chicken )
are owned by Pepsi. With the amount they had to have paid
for the product placement in Demolition Man, I mean it had
to be huge, they had a right to expect as wide an audience
as possible. My question did they shoot every scene with
the food logos in them twice, once with taco bell and once
with pizza hut. I seem to remeber scenes where the taco bell
logo was promenitly displayed. And since they are owned by
the same company why use both, why not just pizza hut.
Paul M.
D'Artagnan
>In article <kreisler-1...@x237-56.pres.umn.edu>,
>Michael Kreisler <krei...@mailbox.mail.umn.edu> wrote:
>>In article <Csvq7...@skom.se>, ka...@skom.se (Kalle Paulsson) wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure this must have been discussed before, but I just HAVE to know the
>>> story of the bad dubbing in Demolition Man! :-)
>>>
>>> On the videorelease (Haven't seen the theatrical) here in Sweden, you can
>>> clearly see Stallone saying something else than Pizza Hut. Is it like this
>>> also in the US video/theatrical?
>>
>>The original American cut has Taco Bell winning the restaraunt wars.
>>Anyone know why it was changed for the European release?
>Perhaps because there are no Taco Bells out of the US? So the joke might
>be lost? I think the producers approached several fast food chains to be
>featured in the movie and TB agreed - free advertising I guess.
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I personally think that Taco Bell paid BIG BIG BIG bucks to get promoted
like that. You'll notice that the signs on new Taco Bells and in ads
look just like the ones in the movie.
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