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Alexander E. Christensen

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I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
preferred, but their accents should be accurate.

Thanks for any help.
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See A Shallow Grave which was made in Scotland using Scottish actors.


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Steve Hawker

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In article <1995Apr2.0...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>,

aech...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Alexander E. Christensen) wrote:

>I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
>accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
>preferred, but their accents should be accurate.

Loads of them. But my favourite movies with real Scottish accents are "The
39 Steps" and "Local Hero"

Jennifer Newburg

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Apr 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/3/95
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In <1995Apr2.0...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
aech...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Alexander E. Christensen) writes:

>
>I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
>accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
>preferred, but their accents should be accurate.
>

>Thanks for any help.
>--

I haven't seen (the new *or* old) Rob Roy movie, but I'm sure that'll
provide you with plenty of Scots accents!
Also, the vastly underappreciated "Year of the Comet" (not "Night of the
Comet") with Penelope Ann Miller and Tim Daly has a few scenes with
Scottish farmers, but they are mostly played for laughs because our
hereoes can't understand them.

hope I helped a little,

jenner

Bridget McPhail

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Apr 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/3/95
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aech...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Alexander E. Christensen) writes:
>
>I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
>accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
>preferred, but their accents should be accurate.

Well, "Local Hero" is full of authentic Scottish accents. And so are Bill
Forsyth's other movies, the ones set in Scotland, of which there are
several. Sorry, I've forgotten all the titles. And there's at least one
reasonably authentic accent in "Shallow Grave". I think "Riff Raff" has a
few - I know it's got Glaswegians in it, but I'm not sure whether it's set
on a London building site or in Glasgow....But the best place to get
really authentic accents is not from movies, but Scottish TV e.g.
"Taggart", if you can get it on tape, "The Advocates" etc. Glaswegian in
the former and Edinburgh in the latter series...
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Richard Elias

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Apr 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/3/95
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You can't get any more authentic than Peter WAtkins' documentary "Culloden."

Steve Hawker (st...@foxlabs.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <1995Apr2.0...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>,


: aech...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Alexander E. Christensen) wrote:

: >I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
: >accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
: >preferred, but their accents should be accurate.

: Loads of them. But my favourite movies with real Scottish accents are "The


: 39 Steps" and "Local Hero"


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Sean Smith

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Apr 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/3/95
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> I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
> accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
> preferred, but their accents should be accurate.
>
You could do quite well with Bill Forsyth's films, like "Gregory's Girl"
and "Comfort and Joy."
There's also older movies like "I Know Where I'm Going," "Tight Little
Island" and "Tunes of Glory."

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Bridget McPhail

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In article <3lp18d$b...@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us>,
rie...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Richard Elias) wrote:

> You can't get any more authentic than Peter WAtkins' documentary "Culloden."

Yeah - if you don't mind Gaelic with subtitles. But nice to see somebody
else who remembers this movie - I think Peter Watkins is a *very*
interesting film- maker and this was my personal fave.....
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Rick Denison

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Apr 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/5/95
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In article <1995Apr2.0...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>

aech...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Alexander E. Christensen) writes:

> I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
> accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
> preferred, but their accents should be accurate.

EVERYONE (except the hapless British Customs & Excise man) in "Whisky
Galore!" (alias "Tight Little Island"). Ditto "Wee Geordie." Both are
available on tape. Another (don't know if it's on tape): "The Bridal
Path." Also: "I Know Where I'm Going."

Any movie with Gordon Jackson has at least one authentic Scots accent.
He was in one of the Harry Palmer films with Michael Caine (maybe
"Funeral in Berlin").

-- Rick Denison (rden...@abacus.bates.edu)

Richard Elias

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How about Alec Guiness in "Tunes of Glory"?

Rick Denison (rden...@abacus.bates.edu) wrote:
: In article <1995Apr2.0...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>

: -- Rick Denison (rden...@abacus.bates.edu)

Alex A Goddard

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Apr 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/6/95
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Richard Elias (rie...@freenet.columbus.oh.us) wrote:

: How about Alec Guiness in "Tunes of Glory"?

Waht??? Alec Guiness' accent in _Tunes of Glory_ is terrible! I don't
sound anything like Guiness, not does any other Scotsman I know. For
real Scots accents, try a Bill Forsythe film.

Alex

Scott Jamieson

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In <1995Apr2.0...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>, aech...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Alexander E. Christensen) writes:
>I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
>accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
>preferred, but their accents should be accurate.
>
>Thanks for any help.

How about the obvious big Scot himself - Sean Connery. His accent is pretty authentic in
ALL his films - even in Highlander when he says in a Scottish accent (when he was
supposed to be Spanish) "What is this Haggis?".

Connor McCleod's clan's accents in Highlander were all authentic. Esp. Blossoms - Connors
wife.

How about the Dad in 'So I Married an Axe Murderer?'.

Mrs Doubtfire was also very realistic, a very good job done by Robin Williams of that lovely
lady coming from Scotland, England (as quite a few of our American chums have thought).

Dam, I can't remember the film which was set in Scotland about two blokes who robbed
tourists in Scotland dressed as the Wolf and the Clown. The music was by Big Country, and
yes, I've got it - 'Restless Natives'. Their accents were pretty good ...


Thats all so far ...

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John Groseclose

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Apr 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/6/95
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In article <ABA4DCA2...@foxlabs.demon.co.uk>,
st...@foxlabs.demon.co.uk (Steve Hawker) wrote:

>In article <1995Apr2.0...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>,


>aech...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Alexander E. Christensen) wrote:
>
>>I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
>>accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
>>preferred, but their accents should be accurate.
>

>Loads of them. But my favourite movies with real Scottish accents are "The
>39 Steps" and "Local Hero"

Sean Connery in "The Anderson Tapes." One of his *early* efforts, and his
burr's a bit on the thick side.

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aki...@daniel.drew.edu

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Apr 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/6/95
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I _believe_ this is Scotland...but not 100% sure...

Try "Wickerman"--one of my favorite corny films. All the
characters are Scottish.
***Alison
Sorry if this is innacurate or mentioned already--I just picked up on
this thread today.

Tony McAlinden

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Apr 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/7/95
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Steve Hawker (st...@foxlabs.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <1995Apr2.0...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>,
: aech...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Alexander E. Christensen) wrote:

: >I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
: >accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
: >preferred, but their accents should be accurate.

: Loads of them. But my favourite movies with real Scottish accents are "The
: 39 Steps" and "Local Hero"

Wait a moment while I pick myself up from the floor! "The 39 Steps" is just
about my favourite Hitchcock film, but the accents in it are atrocious!
This is because the 1930s idea was that English thespians could do better
Scottish accents than the Scots themselves!

For instance, the crofters wife (Peggy Ashcroft), is as English a thespian
as they come. Apparently she's from Glasgow - but let me tell you, it must
be Glasgow, England!

"Local Hero", on the other hand, is convinving, because the actors really
are Scots.

My personal vote would go to "Gregory's Girl", presuming you see it in the
original undubbed version.

Also, as has been mentioned, Sean Connery keeps his lilt in every film he
appears.

Cheers.

Tony.

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Abigail Larsen

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Apr 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/8/95
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Wickerman is one of my favorite all time creep-out thriller flicks. I
don't think Edward Woodward (The Equalizer) is scottish, or Christopher
Lee, of Britt Ekland (I think that's who it was, or was it Elke Sommer,
I always get those swedes confused) but the music was wonderful and the
rest of the actors seemed pretty scottish. Highly recommended film,
btw, quirky and creepy.

Abby

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Kimberly K Tully

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Apr 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/11/95
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: aech...@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Alexander E. Christensen) writes:

: > I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
: > accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
: > preferred, but their accents should be accurate.

: EVERYONE (except the hapless British Customs & Excise man) in "Whisky


: Galore!" (alias "Tight Little Island"). Ditto "Wee Geordie." Both are
: available on tape. Another (don't know if it's on tape): "The Bridal
: Path." Also: "I Know Where I'm Going."

: Any movie with Gordon Jackson has at least one authentic Scots accent.
: He was in one of the Harry Palmer films with Michael Caine (maybe
: "Funeral in Berlin").

: -- Rick Denison (rden...@abacus.bates.edu)
Check out Shallow Grave. Very authentic accents.

Kimberly

Jeremy Perkins

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Apr 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/12/95
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ktu...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Kimberly K Tully) wrote:
>
> : > I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
> : > accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
> : > preferred, but their accents should be accurate.
>
> : EVERYONE (except the hapless British Customs & Excise man) in "Whisky
> : Galore!" (alias "Tight Little Island"). Ditto "Wee Geordie." Both are
> : available on tape. Another (don't know if it's on tape): "The Bridal
> : Path." Also: "I Know Where I'm Going."
>


"The Maggie" 1953 - same director as Whisky Galore.


Excerpts from "Rob Roy" on Film '95 the other evening. An
Irish man (Liam Neesom) and an American lady (Jessica Lange)
fighting manfully (personfully?) with the accent.


J.

Jeremy Renton

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Apr 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/12/95
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What I have been waiting for is someone to point out that there are many
Scottish accents, so you need to figure out what area your character is
from to figure out the appropriate accent. Highlands tends to be rather
musical. Glaswegian is sort of like Liverpudilian with a hell of a burr
with a heavy dose of incomprehensible. And there are other regional
differences, but I'm no expert.

Acquisitions

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Apr 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/12/95
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That Sinking Feeling
and Gregory's Girl


cw...@hoasys.isd1.tafensw.edu.au

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Apr 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/14/95
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n article <3mgnc9$r...@fileserv.aber.ac.uk>, Jeremy Perkins <j...@aber.ac.uk> writes:
> ktu...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Kimberly K Tully) wrote:
>>
>> : > I'm looking for performances that reflect really authentic Scottish
>> : > accents. The actors don't have to be Scottish, though that would be
>> : > preferred, but their accents should be accurate.


Contact STV and BBC Scotland and get tapes of:

Taggart
City Lights
Rab C Nesbit

If you meant Jocks in Hollywood then anything with Sean Connery playing
a Russian/Spaniard or Englishmen.

Regards,
Chris

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pa...@yvax.byu.edu

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Apr 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/17/95
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this thread was about Scottish accents and for some reason it is the only
thread I can get through my server for cine-l and I miss it terribly so just
wanted to say "Hi" to everyone.

Nat
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p.s. the only comment I have to make about Scottish accents is that the dialect
coach for Rob Roy must've been amazing. Its the best
dialect ensemble work I can remember.

p.s.2 I'm still reeling from Lange's performance. Why was this movie released
in April? (it has things oscar voters love throughout...wonderful costumes,
score, and Lange and Roth aren't too shabby either)


Bostick J M

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Apr 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/18/95
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In article <3m736i$8...@desiree.teleport.com> Abigail Larsen <ma...@teleport.com> writes:
>Wickerman is one of my favorite all time creep-out thriller flicks. I
>don't think Edward Woodward (The Equalizer) is scottish, or Christopher
>Lee, of Britt Ekland (I think that's who it was, or was it Elke Sommer,
>I always get those swedes confused) but the music was wonderful and the
>rest of the actors seemed pretty scottish. Highly recommended film,
>btw, quirky and creepy.
>
>Abby
>

and very sexy
mark

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Charles Seyferth

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Apr 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/22/95
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-=> Quoting John Groseclose to All <=-
JG>
JG> Sean Connery in "The Anderson Tapes." One of his *early* efforts, and
JG> his burr's a bit on the thick side.
JG>
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JG> advertised on the UseNet...
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Connery's not Scottish! He's Welsh...


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Bob Reimer

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Apr 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/23/95
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>Connery's not Scottish! He's Welsh...

You must be joking! Most people born in Edinburgh, Scotland
(as was Connery) are considered Scottish. Most people born in
Wales (Richard Burton, Tom Jones, Anthony Hopkins) are considered
Welsh. You could look it up.

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Alison Cameron Grant

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Apr 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/25/95
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On Sat, 22 Apr 1995, Charles Seyferth wrote:

> -=> Quoting John Groseclose to All <=-
> JG>
> JG> Sean Connery in "The Anderson Tapes." One of his *early* efforts, and
> JG> his burr's a bit on the thick side.
> JG>
> JG> --
> JG> John Groseclose <car...@enet.net>
> JG> Another person who will NEVER buy anything inappropriately
> JG> advertised on the UseNet...
> JG> *Unsolicited Commercial EMail will be proofread for $100 per message*
>

> Connery's not Scottish! He's Welsh...
>
>

> ... ***The fecal material has hit the air circulating device.
> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
>
>

If you're only joking ignore the rest.....

WELSH???! WELSH!!!!!!??!?!?
Where did you pick up that completely erroneous piece of information!
Sean Connery is born and bred Scottish. He worked in Edinburgh as a milkman.
He makes films for the Scottish tourist board. He set up a charity for
young Scottish people..
Need I go on (and I could).... He's more Scottish than Haggis! ("What's a
haggis?" - Ramirez)

Phew... sorry for the flame but I'm particularly patriotic..

Oh and re one of the Rob Roy letters...of course the English are always
the bad guys :-)

Psycho Bitch.
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