Keanu Reeves in Tom Clancy's moovie?
Keanu Reeves
I just read from my local newspaper that our hero in Speed would
star in a movie named "Without Remorse" and the editor said it is a
movie base on the novel by Tom Clancy(Hunt for Red October, Clear &
Present Danger...), well I just wonder if anybody could confirm this ?
And do anyone know if he would star as Jack Ryan or as other guy with
Harrison Ford again star as our CIA hero?
Koala
Ian J. Burns
>Hi!
> I just read from my local newspaper that our hero in Speed would
>star in a movie named "Without Remorse" and the editor said it is a
>movie base on the novel by Tom Clancy(Hunt for Red October, Clear &
>Present Danger...), well I just wonder if anybody could confirm this ?
Actually, no. If you can believe this: He was offered the part and
something like $7 mil to play it, but he turned it down because after
SPEED, he doesn't want to get typecast as an action hero!
IMHO, the boy should just let Groo do what Groo does best, and
stick with what works for him. He proved in SPEED that he was a
versatile actor. He really brought good things to the character,
something he hasn't done for a while (once again, that's just MHO)
Please, Keanu, no more DRACULA's!
-Josh
Patman
>Keanu Reeves (stw...@cs.cuhk.hk) wrote:
>: I just read from my local newspaper that our hero in Speed would
>I'm reading "Without Remorse" right now, and I believe Reeves was
>scheduled to play the part of John Kelly, a.k.a. "Mr. Clark," the
>enigmatic CIA operative played by Willem Dafoe in "Clear and Present
>Danger," but has now backed out.
Thank goodness! Keanu would have been terrible in the role. I just got
done reading _Without Remorse_ last month. Nice read.
Who do I think should play John Kelly? Hmm...
Has to be around 6'2", 200 pounds, late 20's, stealthy, in great SEAL shape.
How about Val Kilmer? :)
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Mark K. Zane
>Ryan doesn't even appear, if I recall correctly (I read the book
>at the beginning of the summer). So unless they're really going to
>hack the plot up (gag)...
Actually, he *does* appear, if memory serves, but he's just a kid (the
cop's son).
So now you see the problem with Harrison Ford playing Ryan. They'll have
to get *Sean Connery* to play Clark, if they want their ages to be
consistent.
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Harrison Ford could play Emmet Ryan (Jack's father) in the movie...
Sean Connery could play Sam, the surgeon.
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>I just read from my local newspaper that our hero in Speed would star in a
>movie named "Without Remorse" and the editor said it is a movie base on
>the novel by Tom Clancy(Hunt for Red October, Clear & Present Danger...),
>well I just wonder if anybody could confirm this ? And do anyone know if
>he would star as Jack Ryan or as other guy with Harrison Ford again star
>as our CIA hero?
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Keanu Reeves was offered the lead for $7 million. I believe he turned it
down. WITHOUT REMORSE begins production in January.
eca...@pipeline.com
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Alexander E. Christensen
: Hi!
: Koala
I'm reading "Without Remorse" right now, and I believe Reeves was
scheduled to play the part of John Kelly, a.k.a. "Mr. Clark," the
enigmatic CIA operative played by Willem Dafoe in "Clear and Present
Danger," but has now backed out.
Alex Christensen
Stevenson Mcgorman J
MK>
MK> So now you see the problem with Harrison Ford playing Ryan.
MK> They'll have to get *Sean Connery* to play Clark, if they want
MK> their ages to be consistent.
MK>
Actually Jack Ryan is about college age and Clark is about 25. I am in the
process of reading the book and just read that part last night.
Mark K. Zane
Oh. Sorry. It's been a while.
Clancy said he objected to Ford playing Ryan because Ryan is 31 and Ford is
52 (said in regard to Clear and Present Danger). I remembered that Ryan
was in school in Without Remorse, but I guess I assumed (mistakenly) that
it was more like junior high. Isn't WR set in the 60's or the 70's?
Mark Zane
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gigl...@shrsys.hslc.org
hellish tour in Vietnam when he is sucked back into Vietnam to get some
Pilots out of a POW camp for fear of them giving away US secrets.
As faras I can determine from Clancy's ambiguous dates, The year is around
1970 and Ryan is in his late twenties. He makes some references to the girls
age of 18 and he is much older, still in Vietnam War and a car he bought
was a 60 something VW that was several years old....
Frank
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EC> Keanu Reeves was offered the lead for $7 million. I believe he turned it
EC> down. WITHOUT REMORSE begins production in January.
EC>
EC> eca...@pipeline.com
EC>
EC> Eric Carter "The truth shall make you strange"
EC>
Thank god. I don't think I could have tolerated old (young) stuffynose
notalent himself in a TC movie. Gak.
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Scott Kitchen
>As faras I can determine from Clancy's ambiguous dates, The year is around
>1970 and Ryan is in his late twenties. He makes some references to the girls
>age of 18 and he is much older, still in Vietnam War and a car he bought
>was a 60 something VW that was several years old....
Well, you've got the year right. At this time, if I'm not mistaken
(and I certainly hope I'm not or else I'll have to go back and read
the whole thing again), Ryan was supposed to still be a Middie at the
Academy. If you'll recall in HFRO, the captain of the "Enterprise"
(or whatever carrier it was) told off his XO by defending Ryan. He
said that Ryan was involved in a chopper dump in the Med and came out
of it with a broken back. He finished his Academy run from a hospital
bed, and I think, graduated in '72.
Please don't hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong, but those're the
facts as I remember them.
Scott
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I am sorry to have to tell you this, but, while you are right about the girl
and Vietnam and the car, you are wrong about the chararcter. The character you
are referring to is John Kelley(Clark in other Clancy books). The story
centers around Kelly/Clark and only mentions Ryan because due to one of
Clancy's many coincidences, Ryan's father is investigating Kelly for murder.
Ryan is only in the book for a page or two, and, yes, he is home from Boston
College.
John Pak
What? Why would Sean Connery play Clark when William Dafoe played Clark
in "Clear and Present Danger?" Connery should play Jack Ryan's dad,
who was the investigator in the book. I am confused by your logic.
Trivia: how did Jack Ryan's dad die (according to the Clancy books)?
JP
CLINT RICHARDS
: Ryan is not in school in the book Without Remorse. He is recuperating after a
: Frank
Replace all the Ryans in those last two paragraphs with Clarks, and
you're 100% correct
Utah
gigl...@shrsys.hslc.org
1) Jack Ryan, his real name.
2) Jack Clark his military mission name. He assumes this name for the mission
and it is on all of his documents, ie passport, etc.
Frank
Ron Drake
Sun) wrote:
> I think you're confusing things...
>
> John Terence Clark used to be John Terence Kelly. Clark/Kelly never
> went by the name Jack.
>
> Clark/Kelly later becomes the driver and SPO for John Patrick Ryan,
> sometimes referred to as Jack.
>
> Two different people.
Clancy's "Without Remorse" is the opus wherein "Clark/Kelly" is developed. I
had to finish it in order to feel good about buying and reading the next one.
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I think you're confusing things...
John Terence Clark used to be John Terence Kelly. Clark/Kelly never
went by the name Jack.
Clark/Kelly later becomes the driver and SPO for John Patrick Ryan,
sometimes referred to as Jack.
Two different people.
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: Ryan is not in school in the book Without Remorse. He is recuperating after a
: Frank
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now you're confusing Jack Ryan with John
Kelly, a.k.a. Mr. Clark, the protagonist of _Without_Remorse_. I haven't
seen Ryan yet so far in my reading, but I have read far enough to know
you have mixed them up.
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Brian C. Bennetts
> In <30SEP94....@shrsys.hslc.org>, gigl...@shrsys.hslc.org writes:
> >That's about right, but Jack Ryan had 2 names in the book.
> >
> >1) Jack Ryan, his real name.
> >2) Jack Clark his military mission name. He assumes this name for the mission
> >and it is on all of his documents, ie passport, etc.
> I think you're confusing things...
> John Terence Clark used to be John Terence Kelly. Clark/Kelly never
> went by the name Jack.
> Clark/Kelly later becomes the driver and SPO for John Patrick Ryan,
> sometimes referred to as Jack.
> Two different people.
Let's not forget that Jack Ryan was also known as Sir John, after his
rescue in "Patriot Games"...they didn't feel that "Jack" was dignified
enough <the brits that is>
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Scott Howard
: gigl...@shrsys.hslc.org wrote:
: : Ryan is not in school in the book Without Remorse. He is recuperating after
: : a hellish tour in Vietnam when he is sucked back into Vietnam to get some
: : Pilots out of a POW camp for fear of them giving away US secrets.
: : As faras I can determine from Clancy's ambiguous dates, The year is around
: : 1970 and Ryan is in his late twenties. He makes some references to the girls
: : age of 18 and he is much older, still in Vietnam War and a car he bought
: : was a 60 something VW that was several years old....
: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now you're confusing Jack Ryan with John
: Kelly, a.k.a. Mr. Clark, the protagonist of _Without_Remorse_. I haven't
: seen Ryan yet so far in my reading, but I have read far enough to know
: you have mixed them up.
From memory Jack Ryan doesnt appear in Without Remorse, but his father,
Emmet Ryan, gets a mention in there somewhere (as a Police Officer).
Scott.
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late in the book. Without Remorse is about John Clark. Keanu Reeves is
NOT any kind of Clark, and Ford is no Jack Ryan. Clark in without
Remorse should be played by either a bulked up Micheal Biehen or a super
bulky Robert Patrick.
EV@INGUS
>From: c921...@sage.newcastle.edu.au (Scott Howard)
>Subject: Re: Keanu Reeves in Tom Clancy's moovie?
>Date: 16 Oct 1994 03:56:07 GMT
[Earlier Discussion Deleted]
>From memory Jack Ryan doesnt appear in Without Remorse, but his father,
>Emmet Ryan, gets a mention in there somewhere (as a Police Officer).
Jack Ryan is mentioned very briefly as Emmet Ryan is talking about his son
being home from college (BU, I believe) and how he is anxious to spend some
time with him. IMHO, I thought putting the Ryan family in it at all was a
little cheesy...
Evan
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>From: Dread Pirate Roberts <lrob...@tiamat.umd.umich.edu>
>Subject: Re: Keanu Reeves in Tom Clancy's moovie?
Yeah, right--I'm sure a lot of people would pay to see a movie starring one of
those two. They may fit the bill for the character, but let's get
realistic--Keanu Reeves is a million times more likely. BTW, I pegged
Harrison Ford for Jack Ryan the minute I finished Hunt for Red October. He's
done great in Ryan's role as accidental hero, IMHO
Evan