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Kyle Cassidy

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Aug 1, 1994, 10:07:26 AM8/1/94
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i recently bought the vid of JAWS released by universal. i noticed that there
are about 7 seconds missing from the film. it's the scene where hooper is
examining the remains of chrissy watkins. he picks up the arm and says "this is
what happens when a big shark finds someone swimming alone in the water" or
something like that, but in the tape , he says "this is what happens--" and
there is an ugly jump to the middle of another sentence. i spoke w/ someone at
my local video store about this and he told me that he had heard
(rec.movies.urban.legends) that there were no print copies of the film left,
that they had deteriorated at an incredible rate and that this was as close to
the whole film as we are going to get. my questions are:

1) is this true? are those 7 seconds lost forever?
2) is there a directors cut of jaws that i missed? (letterbox?)
3) are we losing our films? and what are the implications of this.


i'd like to hear from any other fans of the film.

tnx

kc

The Dominator

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Aug 3, 1994, 3:55:30 PM8/3/94
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In article <31iviu$n...@gboro.rowan.edu> CAS...@saturn.rowan.edu (Kyle Cassidy) writes:
> 1) is this true? are those 7 seconds lost forever?
> 2) is there a directors cut of jaws that i missed? (letterbox?)
> 3) are we losing our films? and what are the implications of this.

A widescreen version of the film was recently released in the UK, but has
been available on mail order since before Xmas.
I didn't notice any differences to what I'd seen before.

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John P. Garry

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Aug 3, 1994, 9:08:44 PM8/3/94
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In article <31iviu$n...@gboro.rowan.edu>, CAS...@saturn.rowan.edu (Kyle
Cassidy) wrote:

It doesn't matter how badly release prints of the film deteriorate. The
original negative, interpositives, etc. are preserved--though quality of
preservation varies greatly. New prints of Jaws can be made at any time.
I heard a rumor myself that the original elements for Jaws are not in the
greatest shape--perhaps this is what the video store clerk was referring
to. But this does not account for a "missing seven seconds."

As far as I know, the film has always been like this. Hooper's line here
is awkwardly, obviously dubbed. He has always just said "This is what
happens..." The line really doesn't make sense. It comes right after
Hooper yells at the town doctor to not smoke.

There is no director's cut of Jaws. If seven seconds was cut it was cut
before the movie was released. Thus, this would not be "missing footage"
but the routine trims all films have. The movie has been the same since the
day it was released. Information to the contrary is welcomed.

John P. Garry
Los Angeles

Michael S Ritchie

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Aug 4, 1994, 9:10:34 AM8/4/94
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In article <jgarry-03...@160.3.3.59>,

John P. Garry <jga...@aimla.com> wrote:
>In article <31iviu$n...@gboro.rowan.edu>, CAS...@saturn.rowan.edu (Kyle
>Cassidy) wrote:
>
>> i recently bought the vid of JAWS released by universal. i noticed that ther
e
>> are about 7 seconds missing from the film. it's the scene where hooper is
>> examining the remains of chrissy watkins. he picks up the arm and says "this
is
>> what happens when a big shark finds someone swimming alone in the water" or
>> something like that, but in the tape , he says "this is what happens--" and
>> there is an ugly jump to the middle of another sentence.

>As far as I know, the film has always been like this. Hooper's line here


>is awkwardly, obviously dubbed. He has always just said "This is what
>happens..." The line really doesn't make sense. It comes right after
>Hooper yells at the town doctor to not smoke.

As someone who say Jaws 14 times the summer it was released, I agree;
that line has always been truncated and oddly placed. It's like someone
made a last-minute decision to edit that scene and didn't clean up
very well after themselves.
--
Michael Ritchie // mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"Bob Dylan knows/ And I bet Alan Freed did/ There are things
in night that are better not to behold"
--T. Rex, "Ballrooms of Mars"

Jeffrey Davis

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Aug 4, 1994, 9:47:33 AM8/4/94
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John P. Garry wrote:
+
+There is no director's cut of Jaws. If seven seconds was cut it was cut
+before the movie was released. Thus, this would not be "missing footage"
+but the routine trims all films have. The movie has been the same since the
+day it was released. Information to the contrary is welcomed.
+
There's a TV version of "Jaws" which has added material: Quint badgering a
little kid who's playing "Ode to Joy" on the violin is one scene that
stands out.
--
Jeffrey Davis <da...@keats.ca.uky.edu> Lots Available
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