Uncredited actors in major roles
JD Ahmanson
that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
JD
Neel Harish Mehta
That depends on how you define "substantial." If it means more than a
one-scene cameo (a la "The Player"), then:
Robin Williams in "Dead Again"
Chevy Chase in "Hero" (I think it was uncredited)
Neel Mehta
n...@acpub.duke.edu
kgal...@sierra.net
In article <3me8ts$q...@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, <ahma...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
> that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
> role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
> know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
>
> What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
> a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
As I recall, Kathleen Turner wasn't credited for the voice of
Jessica Rabbit in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit". I know there are
other examples, but they don't spring readily to mind.
Paula J. Vitaris
: On 11 Apr 1995, JD Ahmanson wrote:
: >
: > I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
: > that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
: > role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
: > know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
: >
: > What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
: > a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
: > JD
: That depends on how you define "substantial." If it means more than a
: one-scene cameo (a la "The Player"), then:
: Robin Williams in "Dead Again"
: Chevy Chase in "Hero" (I think it was uncredited)
Robin Williams also went uncredited in Terry Gilliam's "The Adventures of
Baron Munchausen." (OK, he did get a credit at the end as, I think, Re di
Tutto-- "King of Everything" in Italian.) And didn't he go uncredited in
"Aladdin"?
-- Paula
AKIS, RICHARD JOHN
>I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
>that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
>role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
>know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
>
>What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
>a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
>
>JD
I think on some occasions, the actors appear as a favour to the
producer or director and accept only scale for their salary.
Whoopie Goldberg was uncredited in "Star Trek:Generations" (this
was an example of the above).
Bill Murray was uncredited in "Tootsie".
James Earl Jones was uncredited as the voice of Darth Vader,
at least in the first Star Wars film.
Richard A.
Marilyn Mosher
Marilyn
>Neel Harish Mehta (n...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
>: On 11 Apr 1995, JD Ahmanson wrote:
>: >
>: > I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
Susan DeMeritt
> Date: 11 APR 1995 15:57:48 GMT
> From: JD Ahmanson <ahma...@ix.netcom.com>
> Newgroups: rec.arts.movies
> Subject: Uncredited actors in major roles
>
> I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
> that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
> role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
> know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
>
> What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
> a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
>
> JD
>
>
In the movie "Tune in Tomorrow" with Keanu Reeves, there are several
scenes where there is a radio soap opera being narrated my Peter Falk's
character is dramatized. Some of the uncredited stars are: John
Larroquette, Hope Lange, Elizabeth ????? I forget her name (not Perkins),
Dan Hedeya, etc.
By the way, Tune in Tomorrow is a pretty good movie.
Harold Wexler
>What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
>a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
I think all of these actors were credited at the end of their films,
but they are unbilled in the opening credits, so I think they count:
Bill Murray in TOOTSIE
Bruce Willis in NOBODY'S FOOL
Raul Julia in HAVANA
In the case of Murray and Willis, the decision to go unbilled was
their own, so as not to mislead fans as to what type of movie it
was. In Julia's case I think he insisted on being billed above the
title, but the producers wanted only Redford and Olin above the
title, so he wasn't billed at all. (Too bad he couldn't go unbilled
in STREET FIGHTER.)
On a not totally unrelated subject, does anyone remember the posters
for THE FIRM? I have always wondered why Gene Hackman, Wilford Brimley
and Gary Busey's names do not appear on the posters, even though they
are prominently billed in the film itself. Any ideas?
Harold Wexler
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
hwe...@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
John Bertram
>
>
> In article <3me8ts$q...@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, <ahma...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
> > that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
> > role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
> > know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
> >
> > a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
>
Jack Nicholson in Broadcast News
Kenneth E. Atwell
Was Sean Connery billed in ROBIN HOOD - PRINCE OF THIEVES?
KEN
Ning Wang
Does anyone know anything about that Italian director that won a special
award during this years academy awards?? his name was something like
michelangelo antione??? something like that?? some names of his movies
would be cool too.. please reply via email..
thanks
ning
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Mike Cuthbert
Emma Thompson cameo in "My Dad the Hero" is one of the more delightful
unbilled appearances.
Phil Craddock
Forgotten how much screen time he actually had, but wasn't Jack Nicholson
uncredited in Broadcast News?
Phil
Steven Shinker
On Tue, 11 Apr 1995, Marilyn Mosher wrote:
> Kenneth Branagh in "Swing Kids".
>
> Marilyn
>
>
>
>
> >Neel Harish Mehta (n...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
> >: On 11 Apr 1995, JD Ahmanson wrote:
> >: >
> >: > I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
> >: > that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
> >: > role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
> >: > know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
> >: >
> >: > What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
> >: > a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
> >: >
> >: > JD
>
>
>
>
>
>
JD Ahmanson
Harish Mehta <n...@acpub.duke.edu> writes:
>> What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts
in
>> a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
>That depends on how you define "substantial."
I would say it would be a part that is integral to the story. In my
examples, if you took out McGavin or Hanks, you'd have a gaping hole in
the film. If it were a role that could be done without, I would say
that it's a cameo to one degree or another.
BTW, who was the narrator/grown up Scotty Smalls in "The Sandlot"? I
didn't see him credited, either.
JD
Nicole Yates
robin williams was also uncredited in shakes the clown as mime jerry.
and hes fuckin hysterical too!
nicole
Neel Harish Mehta (n...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
: On 11 Apr 1995, JD Ahmanson wrote:
: >
: > I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
: > that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
: > role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
: > know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
: >
: > What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
: > a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
: >
: > JD
: That depends on how you define "substantial." If it means more than a
: one-scene cameo (a la "The Player"), then:
: Robin Williams in "Dead Again"
: Chevy Chase in "Hero" (I think it was uncredited)
: Neel Mehta
: n...@acpub.duke.edu
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The Musil's
Heights with Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binosh (sp?) Sinead O'connor
plays Emily Bronte. She is at the beginning and end walking and
talking. She has a hooded cape on and it shadows her face. I thought it
was most interesting that she took no credit for this role. I heard in a
press conference on the film that she asked for very little money and
didn't want the credit but she loved the book and loved the thought of
playing Emily, so she did.
BTW, if anyone hasn't seen this remake it is mose interesting.
gina
Pudman
>In article <3me8ts$q...@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, ahma...@ix.netcom.com (JD Ahmanson) says:
>
>>What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
>>a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
>
>but they are unbilled in the opening credits, so I think they count:
>
>Bill Murray in TOOTSIE
>Bruce Willis in NOBODY'S FOOL
>Raul Julia in HAVANA
>
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Andrew Duston
Ahmanson) writes:
>BTW, who was the narrator/grown up Scotty Smalls in "The Sandlot"? I
>didn't see him credited, either.
>
>JD
>
JD,
Checking my presskit for "The Sandlot", I didn't see a name either, but
I always thought it was David Mickey Evans' voice. In fact, I might have
read it somewhere, though I can't be sure.
-Andy
fad...@kbbs.com
Macaulay Culkin has no credit in JACOB'S LADDER because his father
demanded it be removed. Connery was only a cameo and it was understood
from the beginning he would get no credit.
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Robert
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Tim Burton in Singles.
Hunter Metz
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Maria Vitale
: I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
: that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
: role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
: know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
I wouldn't call either of these "major" roles though.
Quite often because of a dispute for various reasons (argument or
disagreement with: director, produder, studio, etc.) the actor will
ask that his/her name be removed from the credits.
: What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
: a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
Robin Williams in Baron Munchausen
MacCauley Culkin in Jacob's Ladder
mlv
Maria Vitale
: Neel Harish Mehta (n...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
: : On 11 Apr 1995, JD Ahmanson wrote:
: : >
: : > I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
: : > that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
: : > role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
: : > know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
: : > What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
: : > a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
: : > JD
: : That depends on how you define "substantial." If it means more than a
: : one-scene cameo (a la "The Player"), then:
: : Robin Williams in "Dead Again"
: : Chevy Chase in "Hero" (I think it was uncredited)
: Robin Williams also went uncredited in Terry Gilliam's "The Adventures of
: Baron Munchausen." (OK, he did get a credit at the end as, I think, Re di
: Tutto-- "King of Everything" in Italian.) And didn't he go uncredited in
: "Aladdin"?
Yes but the point is *his* name didn't appear in the end titles.
mlv
Eric Lin
On 16 Apr 1995, Maria Vitale wrote:
> JD Ahmanson (ahma...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
> : that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
> : role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
> : know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
>
> I wouldn't call either of these "major" roles though.
>
> Quite often because of a dispute for various reasons (argument or
> disagreement with: director, produder, studio, etc.) the actor will
> ask that his/her name be removed from the credits.
>
> : What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
> : a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
>
> Robin Williams in Baron Munchausen
> MacCauley Culkin in Jacob's Ladder
>
> mlv
>
>
Again, not a major role, but Sean Connery in "Robin Hood--Prince of
Thieves".
EL
JD Ahmanson
writes:
>JD Ahmanson (ahma...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
>: that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
>: role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does
anyone
>: know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
>
>I wouldn't call either of these "major" roles though.
As I stated before, my definition of "major" for this thread is a role
beyond a cameo, a character that, if missing, would have left a big
hole in the story.
JD
dtk
(Captain Jacobi--he's only on screen for a few seconds in a crucial
scene)
Danielle.........
> I watched "Radio Flyer" the other day (good film, BTW), and noticed
> that Oscar-winner Tom Hanks is uncredited even though he has a major
> role. That brought to mind Darren McGavin in "The Natural". Does anyone
> know why these actors weren't given screen credit?
>
> What other 'name' actors can you think of that had substantial parts in
> a major film, but who didn't have screen credit?
>
> JD
>
>
Kenneth Branaugh was is "Swing Kids" but wasn't mentioned in the
credits. I'm not sure why these cameo actors aren't credited ... maybe
they owe favors to the producer (s)? What part did Tom Hanks play in
"Radio Flyer"? Was he the father?
Danielle
Gary Russel /ADVISOR L. FAUSETT
Speaking of KB, he directed and starred in "Dead Again" which had Robin
Williams giving his best performance ever. Uncredited? At least under-
publicized.
Sean Weitzel
subject that is normally very hard to deal with, and elijah wood/joey
mazello really glued it together... the soundtrack on CD is wonderful
also.. permanently stuck in my car cd-player
Andrew Duston (dus...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In <Pine.SUN.3.91.950417134531.9177A-100000@luna> "Danielle........."
: <prov...@luna.cas.usf.edu> writes:
: >
: >On 11 Apr 1995, JD Ahmanson wrote:
: >
: >Kenneth Branaugh was is "Swing Kids" but wasn't mentioned in the
: >credits. I'm not sure why these cameo actors aren't credited ... maybe
: >they owe favors to the producer (s)? What part did Tom Hanks play in
: >"Radio Flyer"? Was he the father?
: >Danielle
: >
: No, he was the adult Bobby in the film (the narrator). BTW, this is a
: very little-seen, film that has a very interesting history. Anybody else
: loved or hated "Radio Flyer"? (I loved it immensely - Elijah Wood was
: incredible).
: -Andy
JD Ahmanson
<prov...@luna.cas.usf.edu> writes:
>What part did Tom Hanks play in "Radio Flyer"? Was he the father?
He played Elijah Wood's character grown up, who narrates the picture.
JD
Andrew Duston
<prov...@luna.cas.usf.edu> writes:
>
>On 11 Apr 1995, JD Ahmanson wrote:
>
>Kenneth Branaugh was is "Swing Kids" but wasn't mentioned in the
>credits. I'm not sure why these cameo actors aren't credited ... maybe
>they owe favors to the producer (s)? What part did Tom Hanks play in
>"Radio Flyer"? Was he the father?
JD Ahmanson
>It was a fantastic film!...the plot was very solid, it touched on a
>subject that is normally very hard to deal with, and elijah wood/joey
>mazello really glued it together... the soundtrack on CD is wonderful
>also.. permanently stuck in my car cd-player
Great cast, great score--I just wish I could have seen the original
ending on film. It's far better than what ended up on screen.
JD
JERRY MCELHANEY
<Pine.A32.3.91i.95041...@homer11.u.washington.edu>
How about Jack Nicholson in "Broadcast News"? The best moment
in the film is when he appears unexpectadly as the Chief News
Anchor. The audience I saw it with cheered for 2 minutes
straight.
Ken
McNeal A Maddox
doesn't (or didn't) get much credit.
M c N E A L * M A D D O X
mm...@andrew.cmu.edu
Carnegie Mellon University
David Gregory Platt
Bill Murray in "Tootsie" and "Ed Wood"
Raul Julia in "Havana"
Paul Sorvino in "The Firm"
Bill Murray chose to be uncredited, or at least unbilled, because he
didn't want the movies to be touted as "Bill Murray movies," because he
had supporting roles. Raul Julia chose to be uncredited in "Havana"
because he didnt want to be second-billed, as he would to Robert Redford.
I don't know about Paul Sorvino, except that I heard he did this.
Dave
David Gregory Platt
>Speaking of KB, he directed and starred in "Dead Again" which had Robin
>Williams giving his best performance ever. Uncredited? At least under-
>publicized.
Robin Williams chose to be uncredited because he didnt want the film
billed, as it ended up being in some theatre in NYC, according to
Premiere: "Robin Williams in _Dead Again_ with Kenneth Branagh."
I think the reason they go uncredited is because they want the ability to
take a small role without the constraints of being in a starring role.
Dave
sess...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
rmetz (rm...@vt.edu) wrote:
: Robin Williams in The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
: Tim Burton in Singles.
: Hunter Metz
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Zach Curtis
<Pine.A32.3.91i.95041...@homer11.u.washington.edu>, Eric
Lin <eri...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> > MacCauley Culkin in Jacob's Ladder
two things withstanding: One, this was one of the first (the first?)
movies Culkin was in, and second, he barely appears in the movie, only in
flashbacks.
zach curtis
cur...@augsburg.edu
Andrew Duston
Costantino) writes:
>
>
>
>******POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW!******
>
>
>
>
>: Did you know that the ending of RF was dramatically different from
the
>: one in the final film. The original ending had Bobby designing the
model
>: for the first space shuttle.
>
>: Does anybody think Bobby really dies at the end?
>
>I was always under the impression that he did die at the end. I
thought
>that's what Tom Hanks meant by history being in the eye of the beholder
>(or some phrase like that).
I never thought he did die, but maybe it's because that possibility is
too upsetting for me. I don't see it literally, but I can't bring myself
to believe that he died.
This other ending is news to me; it still
>fits in with Tom's final statements though. Also, what's this about
all
>this so called "history" behind this film?
>
The script was purchased for a fortune on spec then went through at
least one cast and crew overhaul, and some rewrites of the script, until
finally they made the movie, which was delayed at least once from its
original release date. Then it bombed. It's such a shame. It's a moving
film that I always felt was for adults, not kids, and of course Elijah
Wood was superb.(Joseph Mazzello was good, too.)
-Andy
Andrew Duston
<mm...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>I also loved the story behind _Radio Flyer_. It's a well done piece and
>doesn't (or didn't) get much credit.
>
>
*****SPOILER!*********
Did you know that the ending of RF was dramatically different from the
one in the final film. The original ending had Bobby designing the model
for the first space shuttle.
Does anybody think Bobby really dies at the end?
Calling all twenty people in the world who have seen this movie!!!!
(Of course, I've probably met all of them by now!)
-Andy
Jesse Costantino
******POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW!******
: Did you know that the ending of RF was dramatically different from the
: one in the final film. The original ending had Bobby designing the model
: for the first space shuttle.
: Does anybody think Bobby really dies at the end?
I was always under the impression that he did die at the end. I thought
that's what Tom Hanks meant by history being in the eye of the beholder
(or some phrase like that). This other ending is news to me; it still
fits in with Tom's final statements though. Also, what's this about all
this so called "history" behind this film?
--
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jdcost...@ucdavis.edu appeared to me to be of porphyry,
as flaming red as blood that spurts from veins."
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Purgatorio, Canto IX, 100-103
Carmine Caloia
: Bruce Willis in "Nobody's Fool"
: Bill Murray in "Tootsie" and "Ed Wood"
: Raul Julia in "Havana"
: Paul Sorvino in "The Firm"
also...
Chevy Chase in "Hero"
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performance in _Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves_.
Alex
Libby McGroom
Edvige Carbone
-
-In <3mvkdq$6...@crl.crl.com> swei...@crl.com (Sean Weitzel) writes:
-
->It was a fantastic film!...the plot was very solid, it touched on a
->subject that is normally very hard to deal with, and elijah wood/joey
->mazello really glued it together... the soundtrack on CD is wonderful
->also.. permanently stuck in my car cd-player
-
-Great cast, great score--I just wish I could have seen the original
-ending on film. It's far better than what ended up on screen.
-
-JD
Sorry if i missed this earlier in the thread, but what was the original
ending of the film ?? I loved the film except for the ending, so i
would be really interested to know...
Thanks!
-edvige-