Room With a View
ren...@m.cs.uiuc.edu
Written 11:47 am Jun 13, 1989 by et...@esosun.UUCP:
>I hate to punctuate the Star Trek discussions, but last night I rented
>_Room_ _With_ _a_ _View_ and found it to be a very interesting movie. The
>cinematography was just first rate, as was the acting. And this morning
>the feeling of the movie and the characters stayed with me--which indicates
>an excellent character developement. I was just wondering if RWAV got
>nominated for any awards, and whether the actors had appeared in any other
>"popular" films. None of them looked familiar. Did anyone else find this
>film likable?
I also like the film quite a bit. It had a uniquely British feel to it
and a wonderfully quirky sense of humor (humour?). If I recall the cast
correctly (it's been a few years since I saw it), all of the principals
have been in other films. The young female lead starred in "Lady Jane",
Maggie Smith and Denholm Elliot have been in lots of things (Elliot is in
the latest Indiana Jones flick) and I know the male lead has been in other
things (although no titles spring to mind). I recommend the film to others.
Hal Render
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Canis Nervous Rex
} I was just wondering if RWAV got nominated for any awards...
It was nominated for the following Academy Awards in 1987:
Best Picture (lost to PLATOON)
Best Supporting Actress - Maggie Smith (lost to Dianne Wiest - HANNAH
AND HER SISTERS)
Best Supporting Actor - Denholm Elliott (lost to Michael Caine - HANNAH
AND HER SISTERS)
Best Director - James Ivory (lost to Oliver Stone - PLATOON)
Best Screenplay (Adaptation) WON
Best Art Direction WON
Best Cinematography (lost to THE MISSION)
Best Costume WON
} ...and whether the actors had appeared in any other "popular" films.
} None of them looked familiar.
Well, Maggie Smith has appeared in numerous films, perhaps her best
known being THE PRIME OF MISS JEAN BRODIE (I think she won as Oscar
for it, too). Denholm Elliott has also appeared in lots of films,
his most recognizable (by the general movie-goer) role perhaps being
Marcus Brody in RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK and IJ AND THE LAST CRUSADE.
The two even worked together twice before -- in THIS MISSIONARY and
A PRIVATE FUNCTION.
Other notable films by director James Ivory are THE BOSTONIANS,
THE EUROPEANS, HEAT AND DUST, QUARTET, and ROSELAND. All, in theory,
are available on home video.
} Did anyone else find this film likable?
Yes.
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Ethan Brown
I hate to punctuate the Star Trek discussions, but last night I rented
_Room_ _With_ _a_ _View_ and found it to be a very interesting movie. The
cinematography was just first rate, as was the acting. And this morning
the feeling of the movie and the characters stayed with me--which indicates
nominated for any awards, and whether the actors had appeared in any other
"popular" films. None of them looked familiar. Did anyone else find this
film likable?
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Daniel P. Barron
>
>I hate to punctuate the Star Trek discussions, but last night I rented
>_Room_ _With_ _a_ _View_ and found it to be a very interesting movie. The
>cinematography was just first rate, as was the acting. And this morning
>the feeling of the movie and the characters stayed with me--which indicates
>an excellent character developement. I was just wondering if RWAV got
>nominated for any awards, and whether the actors had appeared in any other
>"popular" films. None of them looked familiar. Did anyone else find this
>film likable?
The guy who played the lead (name escapes me) played Byron or Keats or
somebody, in Gothic, a thoroughly horrible film, my choice for worst (that
I've seen). He was bad, but perhaps with the stupidest screenplay in the
history of film, there wasn't much he could do with it.
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Awards? I vaguely remember rooting for it to win, because I'd liked it so
much...It had a good ratio of interesting characters and humor to lush,
gorgeous settings...
(And, of course, it didn't hurt that I saw it in one of those classic
single-screen theatres in Seattle!)
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>_Room_ _With_ _a_ _View_ and found it to be a very interesting movie. The
>cinematography was just first rate, as was the acting. And this morning
>the feeling of the movie and the characters stayed with me--which indicates
>an excellent character developement. I was just wondering if RWAV got
>nominated for any awards, and whether the actors had appeared in any other
>"popular" films. None of them looked familiar. Did anyone else find this
>film likable?
"Room With a View" (1985) was nominated for:
Best Picture
Best Supporting Actor (Denholm Elliott)
Best Supporting Actress (Maggie Smith)
Best Director (James Ivory)
Adapted Screenplay Won Oscar
Cinematography
Art/Set Direction Won Oscar
Costume Design Won Oscar
Both Denholm Elliott and Maggie Smith are respected actors. Elliott is
probably best known right now for playing Marcus Brody in "Indiana Jones
and the Last Crusade". This is probably the most commercial film he has
done, but I remember Siskel & Ebert saying that he was on of the most
consistent actors around a few years ago. Maggie Smith has been around
for quite a while, appearing in "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie"(1969)
and "California Suite"(1978).
Lee Cochenour
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years with the left turn signal on.
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Hilda Breakspear
>
>nominated for any awards, and whether the actors had appeared in any other
>"popular" films. None of them looked familiar. Did anyone else find this
>film likable?
Incomplete info, but maybe it will help:
JULIAN SANDS
Gothic
Warlock
etc
MAGGIE SMITH
The prime of Miss Jean Brodie
A Private Function
etc
And much much more that my addled brain can't summon to the surface.
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james cook
> I hate to punctuate the Star Trek discussions, but last night I rented
> _Room_ _With_ _a_ _View_ and found it to be a very interesting movie. The
> cinematography was just first rate, as was the acting. And this morning
> the feeling of the movie and the characters stayed with me--which indicates
> an excellent character developement. I was just wondering if RWAV got
> nominated for any awards, and whether the actors had appeared in any other
> "popular" films. None of them looked familiar. Did anyone else find this
> film likable?
>
I believe it is based on a story by E. M. Forester who wrote the
novel on which A Passage to India is based. RWAV won best film honors
from The National Board of Review, and 6 Academy Award Nominations
including Best Picture, Director, Screenplay, Cinematography, Costume,
and Art Direction. I think it was shut out, however.
Daniel Day Lewis was one of the stars in RWAV. He was also in My
Beautiful Laundrette and The Unbearable Lightness of Being. I think
that Maggie Smith (The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie) and Deinholm (sp)
Elliot (Indy Jones) were also in RWAV.
--
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Murray Luening
>It was nominated for the following Academy Awards in 1987:
>
>Best Picture (lost to PLATOON)
>Best Supporting Actress - Maggie Smith (lost to Dianne Wiest - HANNAH
> AND HER SISTERS)
>Best Supporting Actor - Denholm Elliott (lost to Michael Caine - HANNAH
> AND HER SISTERS)
>Best Director - James Ivory (lost to Oliver Stone - PLATOON)
>Best Screenplay (Adaptation) WON
>Best Art Direction WON
>Best Cinematography (lost to THE MISSION)
>Best Costume WON
If memory serves me, I think that the film was actually up for the 1986 Awards
as mentioned by someone earlier. The confusion may be that they were of
course presented in 1987....
I recall that A Room with A View lost to Platoon in 1986.
In 1988, the winner was, of course, (yawn) Rain Man, losing to Dangerous
Liasons which I thought was better, and Beaches which wasn't even nominated!
In 1987, the year in dispute, I recall the film Hope and Glory losing to
The Last Emperor. A pity that was, since I felt that Hope and Glory was a
FABULOUS film - really engrossing from beginning to end.
As far as how I liked A Room With A View, I also thought it was a very well
done and very entertaining movie. Any of the British, and indeed most foreign
films, we get here seem to be some of their best. I saw another that was in
the theatre just recently. It is called Paperhouse and it is sort of an
improved and modified form of Dreamscape (from about 1984). But in this film
the characters are more intensely examined and there is some question as to
what is really going on. My wife and I were on the edge of our seats at
some times, laughing at others, crying the next and then scared to death
in the next moment. It toyed with our emotions!!
Happy viewing,
Murray
Gretchen Wilson
I also enjoyed ROOM WITH A VIEW. I think it was nominated,
for ??? but didn't win at Oscar. Helena Bonham Carter
(the tulip-faced heroine) was previously in LADY JANE
and an allegedly REALLY bad TV "romance" novel whose
name escapes me at the moment.
G.
Doug Moran
>
> Did anyone else find this film likable?
Actually, I found it rather dull and predictable. Maybe I should
watch it again; I might have missed something.
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Simon Gibson
Loved it. If you liked it you might also look out for:
"Dark Eyes" and "Babette's Feast". Both (to me) seem to be in the
same genre, although Babette's Feast is a little more serious.
Dark Eyes is a MUST see.
I have also seen Maurice, I think by the same director as R.W.A.View
but it is very different -- about homosexuality in the victorian era.
Cheers *Simon
Sean Blewett
>Unbearable Lightness of Being. A fascinating actor - I would never
>have recognized him from one film to the next if a friend hadn't
>warned me.
>Does anybody know his name?
It must be Daniel Day Lewis. I never saw My Beautiful Lauderette, but I
am almost positive that he was in it. He's a superb actor.
>Liz
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nadeem
she was fantastic both playing a schoolgirl and as the "zany old"
aunt. The name of the director and other actors elude me now...
Is it available on video, anybody know? I'd like to see it again...
Dave Alexander
> known being THE PRIME OF MISS JEAN BRODIE (I think she won as Oscar
> for it, too).
Affirmative.
> Denholm Elliott has also appeared in lots of films, his most
> recognizable (by the general movie-goer) role perhaps being Marcus
> Brody in RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK and IJ AND THE LAST CRUSADE.
In second place, doubtless, the butler in "Trading Places."
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Liz Bonesteel
>>In article <4...@kvasir.esosun.UUCP>, et...@esosun.UUCP (Ethan Brown) writes...
>>} ...and whether the actors had appeared in any other "popular" films.
>>} None of them looked familiar.
The actor who played Cecil was in My Beautiful Launderette and The
Unbearable Lightness of Being. A fascinating actor - I would never
have recognized him from one film to the next if a friend hadn't
warned me.
Does anybody know his name?
Liz
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>
>} I was just wondering if RWAV got nominated for any awards...
>
>It was nominated for the following Academy Awards in 1987:
I believe it won a number of other awards such as Golden Globes,
New York Drama Critics, etc. May have been Best Picture on one or
more of those lists.
>} ...and whether the actors had appeared in any other "popular" films.
>} None of them looked familiar.
>
>Well, Maggie Smith has appeared in numerous films, perhaps her best
>known being THE PRIME OF MISS JEAN BRODIE (I think she won as Oscar
This is from memory and is very incomplete:
The VIP's
The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie (Best Actress Oscar)
Love and Pain and the Whole Damn Thing
A Private Function
California Suite (Best Supporting Actress Oscar)
Room With a View
Clash of the Titans (piece of shit, obviously done because
her husband wrote the screenplay)
She does a lot of stage work too. A few years ago she spent
a couple of seasons at the Stratford (Ontario) Shakespeare Festival.
I was fortunate enough to see her play Amanda in Noel Coward's
"Private Lives", the lead in "The Guardsman", Rosalind in "As you
Like It", Lady Macbeth, and Cleopatra. She was superb.
Helen Grayson
>
>_Room_ _With_ _a_ _View_ and found it to be a very interesting movie. The
>cinematography was just first rate, as was the acting. And this morning
>the feeling of the movie and the characters stayed with me--which indicates
>an excellent character developement. I was just wondering if RWAV got
>nominated for any awards, and whether the actors had appeared in any other
>"popular" films. None of them looked familiar. Did anyone else find this
>film likable?
1. Denholm Elliot (hero's Dad) and Maggie Smith (maiden aunt?)
are well known. I think Helena Bonham-Carter was an `unknown.'
(Oh that she had stayed so - see later).
2. A movie buff will tell you what awards it received. But I do
remember that Ruth Prawa Jahbvala (sp?) won an Oscar for the screen
play. I was gobsmacked (as we literati here in the UK now say).
She reduced Forster's delicate prose to the same sort of basic
life-birth-death sledgehammer dialogue as she used in `Heat and Dust'.
READ THE BOOK and feel the difference.
3. Helena Bonham-Carter gave me splinters. She *looked* the part
entirely; just wish she'd kept her mouth shut.
MORAL: when a great book is made into a movie, don't read the
book first.
Exception: The Name of the Rose. I thought they made an excellent
film, considering the book was impossible to film, and they (Bertolucci?
Anyone know?) had to leave out 75% of it.
>
Helen.
Morna J. Findlay
The ghastly "Cecil" was played by Daniel Day Lewis, who was
last years trendiest haircut.
His career took off after "My Beautiful Launderette", in which he
played a sort of ex-National Front supporter, who throws his lot
in, as it were, with his childhood Pakistani pal.
His Pal, Omar, was played by Gordon Something, who was very good,
but has since vanished without trace, presumably because he is
not white. Anyone seen home lately?
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Written 3:51 pm Jun 15, 1989 by ebon...@bbn.com:
>The actor who played Cecil was in My Beautiful Launderette and The
>Unbearable Lightness of Being. A fascinating actor - I would never
>have recognized him from one film to the next if a friend hadn't
>warned me.
>
>Does anybody know his name?
Daniel Lewis Day, I think. I forgot about him, even though he was great
in the movie.
>Liz
hal.
Canis Nervous Rex
}>It was nominated for the following Academy Awards in 1987:
^^
} If memory serves me, I think that the film was actually up for the 1986
} Awards as mentioned by someone earlier. The confusion may be that they
} were of course presented in 1987....
No confusion on my part; I knew exactly what I was saying. Read my
prepositions. The nominations were made, and the awards presented,
*in* 1987, though they were *for* 1986.
} In 1987, the year in dispute, I recall the film Hope and Glory losing to
} The Last Emperor. A pity that was, since I felt that Hope and Glory was
} a FABULOUS film - really engrossing from beginning to end.
Right. And if HOPE AND GLORY had won rather than THE LAST EMPEROR, there
would be just as many people upset because they thought THE LAST EMPEROR
was a "FABULOUS" film.
There seems to be an attitude amongst people that because the Academy
choose one particular film as the winner, that it therefore considers
the rest of the slate of nominees to be worthless. A very silly idea.
The fact that a film is even *nominated* means that the voting members
of the Academy consider it to be an eminently worthy film. *Each* film
or person nominated deserves to win, however, there can be only one
winner (ties happen, but *very* rarely). So, no matter *who* wins, there
will be four unhappy losers. No one said life was fair.
John Lorch
>>I was just wondering if RWAV got
>>nominated for any awards, and whether the actors had appeared in any other
>>"popular" films. None of them looked familiar. Did anyone else find this
>>film likable?
>JULIAN SANDS
> Gothic
> Warlock
Siesta
>MAGGIE SMITH
> The prime of Miss Jean Brodie
> A Private Function
Daniel Day Lewis
My Beautiful Laundrette
The Unbearable Lightness of Being
Denholm Elliott
lots of films whose names I can't recall right now.
Helena Bonham Carter is in Getting it Right, which probably won't be a
"popular" film but is out right now.
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jennifer s turney
>
>I have also seen Maurice, I think by the same director as R.W.A.View
>but it is very different -- about homosexuality in the victorian era.
Also note that the books _Maurice_ and _A Room With a View_ were both
written by E.M. Forster, as was _A Passage to India_.
On another note, the character of the rector leading the tour in Italy
(recall that he joins them on their picnic) is played by Arthur
Godfrey, a long-time member of the Royal Shakespeare Company, who also
appeared in Nicholas Nickleby.
Jenn
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> In article <29...@shlump.dec.com>
> boya...@ruby.dec.com (Canis Nervous Rex) writes:
> > Denholm Elliott has also appeared in lots of films, his most
> > recognizable (by the general movie-goer) role perhaps being Marcus
> > Brody in RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK and IJ AND THE LAST CRUSADE.
>
> In second place, doubtless, the butler in "Trading Places."
The first film I remember seeing this fine actor in was Bud Yorkin's
delightful "The Night They Raided Minsky's." He played the stuffed-
shirt censor who wanted to close Minsky's Burlesque. He orchestrated
the raid. He was great, and I've followed his stuff since. I also
remember him from a pretty good horror films in the 60s called
"The House that Dripped Blood."
gary
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Todd Rader {x6074}
%In article <4...@kvasir.esosun.UUCP> et...@esosun.UUCP (Ethan Brown) writes:
%>
%>I hate to punctuate the Star Trek discussions, but last night I rented
%>_Room_ _With_ _a_ _View_ and found it to be a very interesting movie. The
%>cinematography was just first rate, as was the acting. And this morning
%>the feeling of the movie and the characters stayed with me--which indicates
%>an excellent character developement. I was just wondering if RWAV got
%>nominated for any awards, and whether the actors had appeared in any other
%>"popular" films. None of them looked familiar. Did anyone else find this
%>film likable?
%
%The guy who played the lead (name escapes me) played Byron or Keats or
%somebody, in Gothic, a thoroughly horrible film, my choice for worst (that
%I've seen). He was bad, but perhaps with the stupidest screenplay in the
%history of film, there wasn't much he could do with it.
%
Oh boy! How soon we forget.
"A Room With a View" was nominated for best picture! You know, the
Oscars, those little statues given out each year...? Off the top of my head,
at least ONE actor should be recognizable: Denholm Elliot, who played
George's father. He also played Marcus in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and
"Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" (I can't vouch for "Indiana Jones
and the Temple of Doom", since I never saw it). I KNOW I've seen other
characters from ARWAV in other movies (notably the meddling aunt), but
I would have to think back a while before I could provide titles. I'm
sure there's SOMEBODY on the net that could help out with that one.
- Todd.