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D466-Darin_G_Powers(0)0

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Nov 14, 1994, 2:41:47 PM11/14/94
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Did I miss something? I've watched Jurassic Park numerous times, and the
following looks like a goof. (Sorry if this topic might have been
discussed at length before).

During the first T-Rex scene, the T-Rex eats the
goat, knocks down the now-dead electric fence, wreaks havoc on the cars
and people. Then he basically pushes the car down into a ravine and into
a tree... But the deep ravine is the same spot behind
the fence the T-Rex just stepped out of! What was he standing
on before climbing over the fence? How about the goat?!
The ravine is certainly much deeper than the T-Rex is tall, nor
is it some narrow crevice the T-Rex could just step over.

Any light you can shed...

Thanks,
Darin
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Nov 15, 1994, 10:55:40 PM11/15/94
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D466-Darin_G_Powers(0)0 (da...@dwroll.att.com) wrote:
: Did I miss something? I've watched Jurassic Park numerous times, and the

: following looks like a goof. (Sorry if this topic might have been
: discussed at length before).

: During the first T-Rex scene, the T-Rex eats the
: goat, knocks down the now-dead electric fence, wreaks havoc on the cars
: and people. Then he basically pushes the car down into a ravine and into
: a tree... But the deep ravine is the same spot behind
: the fence the T-Rex just stepped out of! What was he standing
: on before climbing over the fence? How about the goat?!
: The ravine is certainly much deeper than the T-Rex is tall, nor
: is it some narrow crevice the T-Rex could just step over.

: Any light you can shed...

: Thanks,
: Darin
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Yes, this has been discussed before. But let me take a shot at
explaining it.
When Grant and Lex are climbing down the cable into the ravine (before
the car is dropped on them), if you look in the background during a
side-on shot, I'm pretty sure you can see, out of focus, a sheer rock
face. This would indicate a cliff wall extending out perpendicular to
the concrete barrier. The T-rex was standing at the top of the cliff
when she crashed through the fence. She emerged between the two cars,
not as far forward as the lead car, which would allow for the lead car
being beyond the drop-off. This would also explain why the fence doesn't
extend all the way around the area--even the T-rex isn't tall enough to
wreak havoc on that road from the bottom of the cliff, only from the top,
which is where the fence begins.
Am I being clear? Have a look at the movie again and watch for that
cliff off to Grant's left when he's hanging.

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Nov 15, 1994, 7:53:09 AM11/15/94
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On Mon, 14 Nov 1994, D466-Darin_G_Powers(0)0 wrote:

> Did I miss something? I've watched Jurassic Park numerous times, and the
> following looks like a goof. (Sorry if this topic might have been
> discussed at length before).
>
> During the first T-Rex scene, the T-Rex eats the
> goat, knocks down the now-dead electric fence, wreaks havoc on the cars
> and people. Then he basically pushes the car down into a ravine and into
> a tree... But the deep ravine is the same spot behind
> the fence the T-Rex just stepped out of! What was he standing
> on before climbing over the fence? How about the goat?!
> The ravine is certainly much deeper than the T-Rex is tall, nor
> is it some narrow crevice the T-Rex could just step over.
>
> Any light you can shed...

I've only just heard about this point. And it's a very good point at that.
Sorry I can't shed any light on the subject for you, but it that's life>

DJ

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Nov 16, 1994, 8:02:55 AM11/16/94
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T REX Paddox and the height of the wall problem...

If you look _extremely_ carefully, at a split second of film where the man
and girl are coming down the wire/vine/whatever, you can see, in the back-
ground, what looks to be another part of the paddock which is level to the
goat area. It is an instantaneous part of the film, so look carefully. It
is not inconsistent, if one notices that the T-Rex came out just behind the
car that the children were in. And also, that the T-Rex could have pushed
the car a few feet extra to the left (facing the paddock). Look carefully,
it's there... and if you don't believe, well then, maybe you _won't_ see it.
:)

DJ

Aries & Orion

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Nov 16, 1994, 1:52:49 PM11/16/94
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I have often wondered this very fact myself. I seem to see things the
same way you have mentioned. I notice the T-Rex as being a big dino-
but geesh- the cliff behind the drop off where the car is pushed- well,
i dont see the Rex as being THAT big!
kathy

William Mertz

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Nov 17, 1994, 4:04:27 PM11/17/94
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In article <3abvrs$5...@news.compulink.com> fugi...@cml.com (fugitive - using tin) writes:
>D466-Darin_G_Powers(0)0 (da...@dwroll.att.com) wrote:
>: Did I miss something? I've watched Jurassic Park numerous times, and the
>: following looks like a goof. (Sorry if this topic might have been
>: discussed at length before).
>
[lots of stuff deleted]

>: ___
> Yes, this has been discussed before. But let me take a shot at
>explaining it.

[more stuff deleted]

Now, can someone explain to me why the little kid in JP doesn't
climb THROUGH the electric fence instead of over it?
The mesh on that fence seems almost wide enough for Sam Neil to
squeeze through, and that kid could probably walk through it.

Anyone have a theory on why they didn't add a few more strands of
wire to make it appear at least difficult for the kid to squeeze through?

Thanks

Camille Gleaton

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Nov 17, 1994, 4:08:11 PM11/17/94
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In article <3ag3u9$6j...@ns1.CC.Lehigh.EDU>, mb...@ns1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (MARY
KATE BOLAND) wrote:

(snip discussion of continuity and logical errors)

> On the first shot of this, the glass CRACKS, yet the later shots show the
> kids behind an in-tact rectangle of glass. Hmmm. I think they needed a
better
> Gaffer for this film
>
>

Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the gaffer is the head *lighting*
technician. The person you want to criticise (if you do) is the script
supervisor or the set builders. There's another gaffe in that scene: the
T-rex tosses the Jeep over the wall into the tree. But when Grant rescues
Tim, WHERE DOES THE WALL GO?

Camille L. Gleaton
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swimming laughters." --Friedrich Nietzsche

Cameron Smith

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Nov 18, 1994, 1:28:15 AM11/18/94
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William Mertz (me...@mizar.usc.edu) wrote:

: [more stuff deleted]

Err... from memory, I think you'd be lucky if the wire mesh allowed for
more area than half a square foot!!! Even a small person would have
trouble trying to make it through that that easily, esp when it's on an
angle to the major wires.
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MARY KATE BOLAND

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Nov 17, 1994, 12:29:45 PM11/17/94
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In article <Cz9w1...@bigtop.dr.att.com>, da...@dwroll.att.com (D466-Darin_G_Po
wers(0)0) writes:

>... But the deep ravine is the same spot behind
>the fence the T-Rex just stepped out of! What was he standing
>on before climbing over the fence? How about the goat?!
>The ravine is certainly much deeper than the T-Rex is tall, nor
>is it some narrow crevice the T-Rex could just step over.
>
>Any light you can shed...
>

>Thanks,
>Darin

That baffled me too, Darin, along with another blooper in that scene. When
T-Rex tries to get at the kids through the sun roof, he pushes in the glass.


On the first shot of this, the glass CRACKS, yet the later shots show the
kids behind an in-tact rectangle of glass. Hmmm. I think they needed a better
Gaffer for this film


Mary Kate Boland
Lehigh University
Department of English
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Brian E. Clark

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Nov 23, 1994, 12:29:15 AM11/23/94
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William Mertz (me...@mizar.usc.edu) wrote:

> Now, can someone explain to me why the little kid in JP doesn't
> climb THROUGH the electric fence instead of over it?

Forget that! Two of my friends who work in the "electricity business"
(one a field engineer for a power company, another an electrician) laugh
aloud at the kid-on-the-fence scene. They point out that the deadly
voltage is from the fence to ground -- and the boy is not grounded.
Hence, he is not in danger as long as he remains on the fence. If he
climbed down far enough, he could jump to safety with nary a raised hair.

-brian
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James Kiernan

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Nov 24, 1994, 2:29:46 PM11/24/94
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In <3aujvb$s...@epicycle.lm.com> br...@telerama.lm.com (Brian E. Clark) writes:

>William Mertz (me...@mizar.usc.edu) wrote:

>> Now, can someone explain to me why the little kid in JP doesn't
>> climb THROUGH the electric fence instead of over it?

>Forget that! Two of my friends who work in the "electricity business"
>(one a field engineer for a power company, another an electrician) laugh
>aloud at the kid-on-the-fence scene. They point out that the deadly
>voltage is from the fence to ground -- and the boy is not grounded.
>Hence, he is not in danger as long as he remains on the fence. If he
>climbed down far enough, he could jump to safety with nary a raised hair.

I'm sorry but I feel that I've got the best.In the scene were the goat is
being used for bait(at the T-REX compound) the ground is really level,yeah!
I mean at least there is no drop behind the fence
But when they return and T-REX does his stuff..the monorail car goes over
this fucking huge cliff like drop.I mean, how can this be?
Also how come when Dennis (the fat guy ) goes to the dock to flee with
the embryos, he goes into "Jurrasic Park",I mean he actually drives
through the fucking gates..the BIG gates.Is this a realistic way for
getting off the island? "yes I'm going home now and I'll say hello
to T-REX on my way"!!!!!!!!unbelieveable

p.s if I am completely wrong ,please inform me as this driving me mad
each time I see the movie.

Jurrasic Jimmy
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Nov 24, 1994, 3:44:13 PM11/24/94
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so here it is ...just in case...

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Nov 30, 1994, 1:59:49 PM11/30/94
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James Kiernan (jkie...@tcd.ie) wrote:
> >Forget that! Two of my friends who work in the "electricity business"
> >(one a field engineer for a power company, another an electrician) laugh
> >aloud at the kid-on-the-fence scene. They point out that the deadly
> >voltage is from the fence to ground -- and the boy is not grounded.
> >Hence, he is not in danger as long as he remains on the fence. If he
> >climbed down far enough, he could jump to safety with nary a raised hair.

Yes he wasn't grounded but he was in contact with two lines which could
shock him like two high wires coming in contact. However, the special
effects made it appear as only touching one did it.

> Also how come when Dennis (the fat guy ) goes to the dock to flee with
> the embryos, he goes into "Jurrasic Park",I mean he actually drives
> through the fucking gates..the BIG gates.Is this a realistic way for
> getting off the island? "yes I'm going home now and I'll say hello
> to T-REX on my way"!!!!!!!!unbelieveable

The dock was on the other side of the park. The quickest and most
direct route was through it. The park was in zones and he wasn't going
through the T-Rex zone.

Shane F.

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James Kiernan

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Dec 1, 1994, 9:08:17 AM12/1/94
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In <3bii35$o...@infmx.informix.com> sflater@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Shane Flater) writes:

>The dock was on the other side of the park. The quickest and most
>direct route was through it. The park was in zones and he wasn't going
>through the T-Rex zone.

Don't get me wrong I am not trying to flame you but merely explaining my
point.I didn't mean he(Dennis)*actually* went through the T-REX compound
but merely that surely he had the knowledge not to go into Jurassic Park
as he himself crashed the entire system.

Jurassic Jimmy

>Shane F.

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Andy Patrizio

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Dec 1, 1994, 10:19:15 AM12/1/94
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jkie...@tcd.ie (James Kiernan) writes:

>Don't get me wrong I am not trying to flame you but merely explaining my
>point.I didn't mean he(Dennis)*actually* went through the T-REX compound
>but merely that surely he had the knowledge not to go into Jurassic Park
>as he himself crashed the entire system.

That whole sequence requires some license on the viewer's part. I'd
simply wait a day or two and do it when the storm blows over and after
all the pesky visitors leave.


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Dec 1, 1994, 4:43:52 PM12/1/94
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Andy Patrizio (patr...@netcom.com) wrote:

: jkie...@tcd.ie (James Kiernan) writes:
: >Don't get me wrong I am not trying to flame you but merely explaining my
: >point.I didn't mean he(Dennis)*actually* went through the T-REX compound
: >but merely that surely he had the knowledge not to go into Jurassic Park
: >as he himself crashed the entire system.
:
: That whole sequence requires some license on the viewer's part. I'd
: simply wait a day or two and do it when the storm blows over and after
: all the pesky visitors leave.

That's what any sane person would do in a normal situation, but we all
know Denis had a bit of a personality problem. He had promised these
people that he would have the embryos at the dock at the specific time,
"these people" might also be the type who break kneecaps, or worse...

CAM.
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