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Dragan Antulov

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Apr 2, 1995, 4:00:00 AM4/2/95
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=> Bruce Grant wrote to All

>From: bgr...@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Bruce Grant)
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>No discussion of bad movie accents is complete without mentioning
>William Hurt's Russian accent in "Gorky Park".

AFAIK, nobody in "Gorky Park" spoke with Russian accent. The Russians in
the movie were played by British actors who spoke with British accent.

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DANNY KIM

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Apr 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/6/95
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Joe/Jill Blow said:
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: Drax

--How about the non-accents in Paths of Glory and Kevin Costner in Robin
Hood: Prince of Thieves?
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John Hlavaty

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Apr 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/6/95
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>: >From: bgr...@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Bruce Grant)
>: >
>: >No discussion of bad movie accents is complete without mentioning
>: >William Hurt's Russian accent in "Gorky Park".
>
>: AFAIK, nobody in "Gorky Park" spoke with Russian accent. The Russians in
>: the movie were played by British actors who spoke with British accent.
>
>: Drax

What about Keanu Reeves pathetic attempt at an English accent
in "Bram Stoker's Dracula?" I don't mind Keanu Reeves, but
he shouldn't attempt any accents.

Ciao,

John

Barry

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Apr 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/13/95
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In article <3m1j3b$8...@news.nd.edu>, jo...@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu says...

YEs! I love it when Reeves asks, "Is the castle far?" Some members of
the audience started laughing.....

BARRY


Lawrence L Magee

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Apr 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/17/95
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I seem to have caught the middle of the thread.

Has anyone volunteered Kevin Costner's Robin Hood? Surely.

Larry

GWE...@unccvm.uncc.edu

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Apr 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/17/95
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How about Robert Mitchum in Ryan's Daughter. His pitiful attempts at an
Irish accent, in and out of which he constantly drifted, were downright
embarrassing!!!


Gary Weiss

MitchStern

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Apr 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/18/95
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How about Michael Caine in "Hurry,Sundown"?
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Robert Steele

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Apr 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/19/95
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The worst accent I've heard in a while was in a Richard Dreyfuss film from a few
years ago titled "Once Around". Holly Hunter was supposed to be playing the
part of someone with a Boston accent. Unfortunately, she didn't replace her own
Southern dialect with the Boston one, but instead incorporated it into her own.
The result was something equivalent to Gomer Pyle trying to imitate one of the
Kennedy's. Truly gut-wrenching to hear.

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Susan E. Kay

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Apr 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/20/95
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'Far and Away'
Of course, the whole thing IMHO was terrible, so
the accents fitted right in
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Scott Butler

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Apr 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/23/95
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Ben Kingsley in 'Sneakers'. I think it was *supposed* to be a New York
accent...

Heather Aston

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Apr 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/25/95
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Gwyneth Paltrow and Nick Nolte in "Jefferson in Paris." Every time Gwyneth Paltrow opened her mouth, I kept wishing she would stop talking. He accent was *so*
fake! My God, what was the director thinking? Seeing this movie made me wonder.
In roles that are not played by some big star, why can't they get someone who actually has the right accent in real life? I mean, Gwyneth Paltrow is not a
big name, it's not like they had to have her in the movie. Why couldn't they have gotten some actress who is actually from the south?

Vincent Michael Colombo

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Apr 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/26/95
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I really can't believe this thread has gone this long without someone
mentioning Rob Morrow in Quiz Show. It sometimes sounded like a quasi
english accent, at other times australian. Yet other times it sounded
slightly like a bronx twang while most of the time it just sounded like he
had a speech impedement.

Vince

Jeremy Perkins

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Apr 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/26/95
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vm...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Vincent Michael Colombo) wrote:
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> I really can't believe this thread has gone this long without someone
> mentioning Rob Morrow in Quiz Show.

Having just seen Quiz Show, I was going to ask a wider question.
Given that it is easier to spot poor attempts at accents you are
used to (so it is rotten English, Welsh, Scottish, cockney,
Liverpudlian etc. that get me chewing the carpet), how
good were Ralph Fiennes and Paul Scofield's accents in the
film in the eyes of "locals"?

J.


C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL

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Apr 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/27/95
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What about Kevin Costner with his great british accent in "Robin Hood". A
dire jap/german/french dub would of been better. Infact subtitles in
olde english lettering get my vote!

Simon :)
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Shaun Hervey

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Apr 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/28/95
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> Nick Nolte in "Jefferson in Paris."

Speaking of Nick Nolte and bad accents, how about his Italian accent in
Lorenzo's Oil? Ugh!

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Farwell W

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Apr 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/29/95
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My vote is Jennifer Janson Leigh (is that her name?) in "Dorothy Parker
and the Vicious Circle"--she used something between a strangled preppy and
a speech impaired flapper...

jgilbert.demon.co.uk

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Apr 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/30/95
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Worst accent? - easy, just ask any Londoner:
Dick Van Dyke *trying* to be a Cockney in Mary Poppins (cringe).
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Caitlin M.

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Apr 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/30/95
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Melanie Griffith in BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES, trying to sound like a
southern belle but sounding instead like she's got lockjaw and is
talking through her nose.


Madonna in WHO's THAT GIRL, I think her character was supposed to be
from Philly, but Madonna sounded like she was from the Bronx at the
start of the film. The accent, though, dissipated little by little
throughout the film.

Brian Spollen

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May 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/1/95
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In article <743839...@volvo.demon.co.uk> si...@volvo.demon.co.uk writes:
>What about Kevin Costner with his great british accent in "Robin Hood". A
>dire jap/german/french dub would of been better. Infact subtitles in
>olde english lettering get my vote!
>

(I've-said-it-before dept.).

Perhaps. But no living person in this day and age knows what a 12th-
century English accent truly sounded like, and, thus far, no audio
recordings exist. It's merely a convention of "Robin Hood" movies
that a modern English accent is used (a similar convention is to use
modern English words as well :-). For all we know, Costner's was the
most accurate accent in the entire cast! :-)

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Christine Moritz

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May 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/1/95
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Jeremy Perkins (j...@aber.ac.uk) wrote:

I'm not a midwestern native, but I thought Paul Scofield's accent was
extremely good. I thought he sounded like a midwesterner some time before I
saw his University of Illinois diploma. When I've seen Brits playing
Americans before, they try to "out-American" the American speech
qualities, ending up with ultra-flat vowels, etc., and end up sounding
like parodies of Texans. (I mean no offense to Texans here -- it just
seems like British actors seize upon the Texan accent specifically and
out-Texan it.) For example, Kenneth Branagh's accent in "Dead Again" is
way, way overdone.
Ralph Fiennes, on the other hand, never completely managed to subdue
his British accent. I think most Americans are willing to suspend
disbelief a little -- thinking, "OK, this guy is part of the
intellectual/cultural elite, no big surprise if he sounds a little
British" -- but Fiennes's accent problems wouldn't have been so
noticeable if Scofield's accent also sounded British.

Christine

Bram_Blijleven

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May 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/2/95
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I think the worst accent in films is when you amaricans try to speak
Dutch. You alway's make it sound like German, or worse, sometimes it
is even German!!

(I'm dutch of course ... )
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Luis DelValle

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May 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/3/95
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> Perhaps. But no living person in this day and age knows what a 12th-
> century English accent truly sounded like, and, thus far, no audio
> recordings exist. It's merely a convention of "Robin Hood" movies
> that a modern English accent is used (a similar convention is to use
> modern English words as well :-). For all we know, Costner's was the
> most accurate accent in the entire cast! :-)


Oh give me a bloody break there, pal. That is like saying that since since we had no audio proof, that the 17th century French spoke french with an American accent. Or saying since that it has not been unproven there could be people on the moon. It is sophistry. A fallacious argument. AND ANYONE THAT ATTEMPTS TO ARGUE THAT KOSTNER DID A GOOD ROBIN HOOD ACCENT HAS TO BE FULL OF SHIT HE SUCKED.

For good or for ill Kostner, plays best, and maybe only can play Americans who expouse good old american values.

Marcelo Villacres

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May 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/3/95
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I am sure this is true when foreign characters are represented.

Hollywood usually uses Mexican people to represent just about
any hispanic, or sometimes American-born hispanic people. Like
the drug lord Escobedo in "Clear and Present Danger", could not
disguise the American accent... trying to sound Colombian, not
in a million years!

Marcelo


Animal

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May 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/4/95
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Bad accent:
Sean Connery plays a Russian sub captain in Hunt for Red October.

Doesn't even TRY to hide his accent.
Just pretends that Russians are from Scotland.

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Claudine Tan

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May 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/5/95
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I think the worst accent is Jodie Foster's. Her best role _was_ clearly
Nell, because she didn't have to speak her fake southern. Why do they
cast her as one?

lalw...@bureau.ucc.ie

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May 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/5/95
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No Way!!!!

By far the worst accents in films are Irish (Or should i say Oirish) ones.
Even in recent movies:- Blown Away: What was Tommy L J at?????
Far and Away: "Oimmm Jooooosef Doooooonnneeleeee"
Patriot Games: Richard Harris as Irish-Scots-Welsh
confused IRA man.
These are just a few examples from the last few years. If you go back even
further it just gets worse and worse.

aba...@ucc.ie

Barry Gallagher

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May 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/7/95
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jgilbert.demon.co.uk (J...@jgilbert.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Worst accent? - easy, just ask any Londoner:

: Dick Van Dyke *trying* to be a Cockney in Mary Poppins (cringe).
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In a comic fantasy some leeway can be granted. But in "Blown Away"
Tommy Lee Jones, a great actor, gives an appalling impersonation
of a Northern Irish accent. Better to adopt the Sean Connery approach
and play Russians, Englishmen and Americans as variations on a Glaswegian
theme.

Bruce Daniel Haag

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May 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/7/95
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Here's an example not of a badly-done acccent, but a badly-placed one:

Sean Connery in Highlander. He played an Egyptian who traveled to Japan and Spain, and went to Scotland to find the Highlander. I don't think the "Chief Metallurgist of the King of Spain" would have had the time to learn the accent of the Scots before he met Connor MacLeod, or he probably would not have introduced himself as one of the employees of the Spanish King.

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Sharon Connolly

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May 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/8/95
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By far the prize goes to Kevin Costner for his English accent in "Robin
Hood" and for Tom Cruise in "Far and Away". If we're talking some of
the best accents, I'll vote for Daniel Day-Lewis with his Czech accent in
"The Unbearable Lightness of Being" . From: Love the Movies


King of Hearts

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May 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/8/95
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But despite this, you still believe that he is a Russian which says either that Sean Connery is such a great actor that he doesn't need to actually act, or that the cinema going public is highly gullible and will believe anything! You choose.

Smirk :-)

Chris Bentley

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May 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/8/95
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How about Keanu Reeves in Bram Stokers Dracula? He may be
fashionable at the moment but that was sad, sad, sad.

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Marcelo Villacres (mvill...@esri.com) wrote:

: Hollywood usually uses Mexican people to represent just about


: any hispanic, or sometimes American-born hispanic people. Like
: the drug lord Escobedo in "Clear and Present Danger", could not
: disguise the American accent... trying to sound Colombian, not
: in a million years!

: Marcelo

I agree. The most pitiful attempt at a Puerto Rican accent has got to be
Al Pacino's in "Carlito's Way." It was pretty bad.

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May 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/9/95
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clarice haydon howard (chho...@mik.uky.edu) wrote:
: I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but Melanie Griffith's fake
: Southern accent in "Vanity of the Bonfires" (which was a stinker by it's
: own right) had me cackling throughout the movie.

: "Oooooh, Shuh-man!" *cackle*

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Laurisa O'Dear

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May 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/9/95
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In article <3oo7g8$j...@lucy.infi.net> ste...@infi.net (M.E. Cooper ) writes:
>From: ste...@infi.net (M.E. Cooper )
>Subject: Re: WORST ACCENT IN FILM
>Date: 9 May 1995 17:07:20 GMT

>: "Oooooh, Shuh-man!" *cackle*

Uh, I think you mean "Bonfire of the Vanities", and I agree, it stinks.

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Gabriella Gruder-poni (SM 1997)

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May 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/9/95
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k>:

Distribution: world

kevin costner in robin hood.
don't see it.

clarice haydon howard

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Barry Gallagher

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Christine Moritz (cam...@curly.cc.emory.edu) wrote:

: Christine

Familial consistency in accent and general physical appearance (let alone
eye color) is frequently absent in big star movies. And accessory characters
often pop up with inappropriate accents; the fact that Dr. Richard Kimbal's
classmate from medical school retains a strong Dutch accent is never alluded
to in the script of "The Fugitive". (Krabbe was a late replacement.)

Britons generally consider that their actors do a better job at American
accents than vice versa, which is hardly surprising given their consumption
of American TV, music and film. Media accents and dialects tend to be
standardised; perhaps this causes an underestimation of regional nuances in
American English by British actors?

It seems to me that Americans are much less indignant about minor mistakes
in these matters than the Brits.


BTW I thought Natasha Richardson's accent in "Nell" was consistent and
inconspicuous: any opinions?


Psycho Bitch

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Aaaarrrgggh! Sean Connery is from EDINBURGH not Glasgow. Thats like
saying someone is from L.A. when they're from New York. Actually it's
worse than that because of the amazing rivalry betwen Scotland's two major
cities.

Edinburgh's much better coz it has a Film Festival! (and I live
there ;-) )

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Darren Ewing

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May 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/11/95
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Anybody see John Lothgow in CLIFFHANGER ?
AH what the hell lets throw in Renny Harlin as worst director while were
at it.

Ewing

Oh Jen Jen

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May 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/12/95
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Sharon Connolly (AXU...@prodigy.com) wrote:
: By far the prize goes to Kevin Costner for his English accent in "Robin
: Hood" and for Tom Cruise in "Far and Away". If we're talking some of
: the best accents, I'll vote for Daniel Day-Lewis with his Czech accent in
: "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" . From: Love the Movies


how about mass-accent-foulup, as in `the 3 musketeers', where charlie,
kiefer, oliver and chris retained their american accents, while the king,
the queen, her lady-in-waiting, and the villains, all had english
accents? and this was set in France!

*JJ*

netczar

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May 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/15/95
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In article <3oums1$n...@nuscc.nus.sg>, med4...@leonis.nus.sg says...
>

> how about mass-accent-foulup, as in `the 3 musketeers', where charlie,
>kiefer, oliver and chris retained their american accents, while the king,
>the queen, her lady-in-waiting, and the villains, all had english
>accents? and this was set in France!
>
> *JJ*

What do you think of Nick Nolte's desperate Italian Accent in Lorenzo's oil.
It was by far the worst I have heard.

Czar


Chris

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May 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/16/95
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Vincent Michael Colombo (vm...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu) wrote:
: I really can't believe this thread has gone this long without someone
: mentioning Rob Morrow in Quiz Show. It sometimes sounded like a quasi
: english accent, at other times australian. Yet other times it sounded
: slightly like a bronx twang while most of the time it just sounded like he
: had a speech impedement.

: Vince

it was supposed to be a boston jewish accent (he was from
Brookline). i cannot comment on whether or not it was
accurate, but, yes, it was annoying.

chris

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May 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/16/95
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I nominate Marisa Tomei as Dorita "Don't Call Me Dorita!" Perez in
"The Perez Family."

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Lisa Woolhouse

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May 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/17/95
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In article <3pb50l$k...@earth.njcc.com>, ch...@pluto.njcc.com (Chris) wrote:

> it was supposed to be a boston jewish accent (he was from
> Brookline). i cannot comment on whether or not it was
> accurate, but, yes, it was annoying.
>
> chris
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I've got to say that I found Ralph Fiennes accent worse than Morrow's
attempt. Before seeing the movie, I'd heard way to much about Morrow's
bad accent, but I was really surprised that Fiennes didn't do better. I
couldn't stand the fact that his British accent kept bleeding through
every second sentence he uttered. I think he's a wonderful actor and
quite a looker, but his accent in the show was no screamin' hell.

PS - Morrow shouldn't have abandoned Fleischman on Northern Exposure. He
was great...

Lisa

Bob Chisholm

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May 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/19/95
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I have heard some real bad Boston accents in films. No one in real life talks
like the Kennedys (JFK, Ted..) except the Kennedys. Two movies with bad Kennedy
accents come to mind, Holly Hunter in "Always", and the Lawyer (I forget his name)
In "Quiz Show".

Keith Bailey

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May 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/19/95
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Laurence Olivier in "The Jazz Singer"!!!!!!


Barry Gallagher

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May 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/20/95
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Psycho Bitch (a...@st-andrews.ac.uk) wrote:

Of course I'm using "Glaswegian" in the synecdochical sense in which a
part is put for the whole. We're fierce fond of synecdoche and metonymy on
the Rock. Substitute "Scottish" for the offending adjective,if you like and
add "The Untouchables" to the amazing list of films in one accent.
My POINT is the accent is usually less important than the acting but
overdoing a regional accent can ruin a film.

Renatta Rossevelli

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May 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/20/95
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Tom Hanks, in Forrest Gump: That had to be the worst, and I mean ABSLOUTE
WORST accent I have ever heard in cinema in my entire lifetime.


Cassandra Kenfield

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May 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/21/95
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most Southern acting accents are pretty bad....and check out Dennis McQuaids
"cajun" in The Big Easy..we just about died down here.

V.S. Kumaraswamy

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May 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/22/95
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Bob Hoskins in Roger Rabitt or Memaids. That is an complete reverse on Dick
van Dyke's Cockney. Both were dreadful

Sagar


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May 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/22/95
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Renatta Rossevelli (JMW...@prodigy.com) wrote:
: Tom Hanks, in Forrest Gump: That had to be the worst, and I mean ABSLOUTE
: WORST accent I have ever heard in cinema in my entire lifetime.

...apart from the entire cast of Bram Stoker's Dracula (apart from
Richard E.Grant, who used his own, and Tom Waits, who was surprisingly
convincing)...

Jeffrey Davis

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May 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/22/95
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Keith Bailey wrote:
+Laurence Olivier in "The Jazz Singer"!!!!!!

Olivier in just about any non-German accent. His "Othello" was
notoriously, insultingly bad & he was grotesque in "Cat on a
Hot Tin Roof." The problem, of course, was who'd tell him?

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schw...@usc.edu

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May 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/22/95
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Without a doubt Kevin Costner in Robin Hood is up near the top of this list.
Also, just about anything that Jean Claude God Damme is in.

Kent Parks

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May 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/23/95
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Almost anybody who tries a Southern accent and is not from the South will
botch it to death. Sally Field is one of the exceptions, although in
"Steel Magnolias", she goes in and out of that accent more often than her
costumes!

The MOST offensive 'Southern'<?> accent I've ever heard, outside of TV
shows a la 'Dukes of Hazzard', was Joe Pesci in JFK....puh-LEEZ!! That
"New Joisey" honk of his will never pass for ANY other dialect, least of
all Southern!!

Kent, very Southern in NC

Sarah Bryan

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Sally Field, every time she tries to sound Southern.

Chris

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schw...@usc.edu wrote:
: Without a doubt Kevin Costner in Robin Hood is up near the top of this list.

: Also, just about anything that Jean Claude God Damme is in.

did kevin even attempt an english accent? it seemed to me (i
only saw the movie once in the theater) that he used his normal
california guy accent. i found _that_ bothersome, to be sure.

Eric Shew

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Nick Cage: Vampire's Kiss
"Kev" Costner: Robin Hood.
Keanu Reeves: Dracula.


Eric Wheelock

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May 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/25/95
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Keanu Reeves in Bram Stoker's Dracula. He was trying to jump from Surfer
to "Proper English" and ended up in ruining the film for me.
--Eric--


James McNabb

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Jun 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/5/95
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Kent Parks writes

actually, a real New Orleans accent doesn't sound that Southern at all; in
fact it's quite like a good Bronx accent.


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ACE

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Anything where Kevin Costner tries an accent.
Namely: JFK, Robin Hood, A Perfect World.

Ace

ACE

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Jun 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/6/95
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I thought all the accents in JFK were terrible, with the possible
exception of Tommy Lee Jones. I mean, I'm not from New
Orleans but I did hear an interview with the real Jim Garrison
and I have to say he had a very slight accent. It was almost
undetectable. Kevin Costner went way overboard. Funniest line
is delivered not by Costner, but by the actor who plays his
assistant Lou (I forget the guy's name!) when he walks in to
inform Garrison of the assassination: "Boss, da pwesident's
been shawt."

Ace

James Pearce

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Jun 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/7/95
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I have yet to hear an American who can manage a decent English
accent. We do have regional dialects here you know, very few
people speak in that upper class/BBC accent.

What about Englishmen speaking in American accents? I can't
really tell being English, so what did you Americans think of
Tim Roth`s accent in RD, or Gary Oldman's accent in The
Professional. I'd be interested to know

James
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Mr White

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In article <3r13vv$c...@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, cf...@ix.netcom.com (ACE) wrote:

Tom Cruise in Far & Away....

Peter Reiher

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Jun 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/7/95
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In article <3r431u$e...@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> pea...@cs.man.ac.uk (James Pearce) writes:
>
>I have yet to hear an American who can manage a decent English
>accent. We do have regional dialects here you know, very few
>people speak in that upper class/BBC accent.
>
>What about Englishmen speaking in American accents? I can't
>really tell being English, so what did you Americans think of
>Tim Roth`s accent in RD, or Gary Oldman's accent in The
>Professional. I'd be interested to know

Some English (or Irish or Scot) actors do fine American accents. Some
don't. Olivier's American accent in some of his later work was very
false. (Seems like Olivier spent most of his later years butchering
various accents in various films.) I personally found Kenneth Branagh's
American/LA accent in "Dead Again" quite convincing, though some thought
it a little off. Bob Hoskins is widely acknowledged to be extremely adept
at an American accent, when he puts his mind to it. (Which he doesn't
always.) Tim Roth did a fine job of it in "Reservoir Dogs," and Oldman's was
OK in "The Professional." Daniel Day-Lewis does a good American accent,
of the upper-class, Eastern money variety, in "The Age of Innocence." On
the other hand, in British television shows most American characters are
played by British actors (which is no surprise), and most of them blow
the accent. Michael Caine's sorry attempt at a Southern accent in "Hurry,
Sundown" is another example of a failure.

--
Peter Reiher
rei...@wells.cs.ucla.edu
<http://www.cs.ucla.edu/project-members/reiher/home_page.html>


Michael B

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>In article <3r431u$e...@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> pea...@cs.man.ac.uk (James
Pearce) writes:
>>
>>
>>What about Englishmen speaking in American accents? I can't
>>really tell being English, so what did you Americans think of
>>Tim Roth`s accent in RD, or Gary Oldman's accent in The
>>Professional. I'd be interested to know

I think the english actor in Die Hard 1, did a good american accent, when
he first came upon Bruce Willis, it was a little overdone, but perfect
for the scene.

Also, Kevin Costner's Accent in Robin HOod, what the hell was that???


Paula J. Vitaris

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Jun 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/8/95
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Matthew Woodford (m...@coventry.ac.uk) wrote:
: - a Louis Malle film?)
: A Man for All Seasons
: That Steven Spielburg film based on an E.M. Forster novel (it made an impact
: I just can't remember the title right now! The one with a boy living in a
: Japanese camp, singing a hymn to the Kamikaze pilots...)

The movie was "Empire of the Sun" based on the book of the same title,
which was written by J.G. BALLARD, *not* E.M. Forster.

: Close seconds include -

: Gone with the Wind

I must be the only person in the world who does not like this movie,
despite the wonderful performances, sets, costumes, cinematography, etc.
I just hate the story.

: Doctor in the House (one of the 'Doctor' films anyway)
: Casablanca

Chaplin's "City Lights" always gets me in that emotional place.

-- Paula
--
Paula Vitaris
*************
"Love will take you places you never dreamed." Tony Kushner, Angels in
America: Perestroika

Lawrence L Magee

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Jun 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/8/95
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: Kent Parks writes
: >
: > The MOST offensive 'Southern'<?> accent I've ever heard, outside of TV
: > shows a la 'Dukes of Hazzard', was Joe Pesci in JFK....puh-LEEZ!! That
: > "New Joisey" honk of his will never pass for ANY other dialect, least of
: > all Southern!!
: >

Kent, I was born and raised in New Orleans. I'm telling you that Joe
Pesci, in the movie JFK, gets the local accent absolutely RIGHT.

Many actors try using a Texas drawl or a Georgia honey tongue for New
Orleans, but Joe did da NITE WAARD of NWA'LANS (ninth ward) proud.

Incidently, there's more than one New Orleans accent, but Pesci speaks
like my people, the people I grew up with.

The amazing thing to me about the Internet and Usenet is how it pulls the
unmitigated hubris (redundant?) out of the woodwork.

Larry "Gumbo" Magee

Matthew Woodford

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Jun 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/8/95
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>I think the english actor in Die Hard 1, did a good american accent, when
>he first came upon Bruce Willis, it was a little overdone, but perfect
>for the scene.

Well I would have shot him...

>Also, Kevin Costner's Accent in Robin HOod, what the hell was that???

''Yeeee-haaa! Maid Mari-anne!'' :)

Anyway, I want to ask people what films they thought were the most
powerful emotionally - films that you remember having an impact on you.
A few personal examples that I can remember offhand are -

Jean de Florette (I only remember the title because someone else posted it


- a Louis Malle film?)
A Man for All Seasons
That Steven Spielburg film based on an E.M. Forster novel (it made an impact
I just can't remember the title right now! The one with a boy living in a
Japanese camp, singing a hymn to the Kamikaze pilots...)

Close seconds include -

Gone with the Wind


Doctor in the House (one of the 'Doctor' films anyway)
Casablanca

Matt

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Matthew Woodford m...@rowan.cov.ac.uk

Dolores Fortino

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Jun 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/9/95
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In article <3r7m11$q...@rowan.coventry.ac.uk>,

Matthew Woodford <m...@coventry.ac.uk> wrote:
>Anyway, I want to ask people what films they thought were the most
>powerful emotionally - films that you remember having an impact on you.
>A few personal examples that I can remember offhand are -
>
>A Man for All Seasons

A Man for All Seasons is definitely high on my list. It was truly inspiring.

Rene Williams

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Jun 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/10/95
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Has Anybody Seen Tim Curry's Romanian Accent In "Congo"? The
worst accent in recent memory.

--
***********"Every Time a friend succeeds, I die a little"-Gore Vidal*********

Stuart Walsh

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Jun 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/11/95
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Lord Dickie's 'Scottish' (or is it Scot's) accent in JP was, well, poor when
he remembered to do it.

--
Stuart Walsh

Redhots

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Jun 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/11/95
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James Pearce (pea...@cs.man.ac.uk) wrote:
: I have yet to hear an American who can manage a decent English

: accent. We do have regional dialects here you know, very few
: people speak in that upper class/BBC accent.
well my english accents are always of the working class mate.

: What about Englishmen speaking in American accents? I can't


: really tell being English, so what did you Americans think of
: Tim Roth`s accent in RD, or Gary Oldman's accent in The
: Professional. I'd be interested to know

oh wow, i didn't know tim roth was English! in pulp fiction i
thought,"that's a terrible english accent!" and for awhile i thought gary
oldman was american as well. i thought he was doing a bad accent in "sid
and nancy."
--

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Cultivate the curiosity of the press.
Minimalize their possiblity of ever seeing the group.
Forget about music, and concentrate on creating
generation gaps.
Call all hippies boring, old farts and set light
to them.
Terrorize, threaten and insult your own useless generation.
-Malcolm McLaren

Scott Howard

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Jun 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/12/95
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Meryl Streep's WEAK accent in Out of AfricaĆ 

Kuriyama, Constance

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Jun 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/12/95
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In <3r9l9r$r...@hopi.gate.net> dfor...@news.gate.net writes:

Chaplin's _City Lights_. It's no slouch intellectually, either.

Connie K.

Matthew Woodford

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Jun 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/14/95
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In article <3r7mf5$r...@curly.cc.emory.edu>,
Paula J. Vitaris <pvi...@curly.cc.emory.edu> wrote:
>Matthew Woodford (m...@coventry.ac.uk) wrote:
>: - a Louis Malle film?)
>: A Man for All Seasons
>: That Steven Spielburg film based on an E.M. Forster novel (it made an impact

>: I just can't remember the title right now! The one with a boy living in a
>: Japanese camp, singing a hymn to the Kamikaze pilots...)

>The movie was "Empire of the Sun" based on the book of the same title,

>which was written by J.G. BALLARD, *not* E.M. Forster.

Ouch. Thanks for correcting me.

'Alive' is another film I nominate for greatest emotional impact.

Zachary I. Ralston

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Jun 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/15/95
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Gallipoli


Si tu pouvais savoir...

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Jun 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/15/95
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Gwyneth Paltrow in "Jefferson in Paris." After the first scene where she spoke I cringed every time she opened her mouth.

Nicholas Mcleod

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I saw Natural Born Killers twice - once in the cinema and once on video.

A few weeks ago, a friend of mine told me that Robert Downey Jr's accent
was supposed to be Australian!

I said to him:
"Hey you're the only person I know who picked up that it was
supposed to be Australian!"
He replied:
"I read it on the net."


- Nick McLeod


Taishi Ci

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Jun 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/16/95
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For me, it's Doctor Zhivago.

--
What was my astonishment, what my delight, when I saw him use his fork [to
eat peas] like any other Christian! He did not administer the cold steel
once. Old times rushed back upon me--the remembrance of old services--his
rescuing me from the brigands--his gallant conduct in the affair with the
Countess Dei Spinachi--his lending me the 1700l. I almost burst into
tears with joy--my voice trembled with emotion. 'Frank, my boy!' I
exclaimed, 'Frank Marrowfat, my dear fellow!' a glass of wine!'
Blushing--deeply moved--almost as tremulous as myself, Frank answered,
'George, shall it be Hock or Madeira?' I could have hugged him to my heart
but for the presence of the company. [from the Book of Snobs by
Thackeray]

Matthew Woodford

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In article <3rrja4$a...@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au>,

It sounded perfectly Australian to me, do Australians actually think
it didn't? Well I'm not Australian, what do I know?

j. m. recendez

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Jun 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/19/95
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Picking up this thread late, but got to comment on Debra Winger's New
Jersey(?) accent in "Shadowlands". Was it just me or did it stink? ----jmr

Stephen Waring

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I can assure you that to an Australian it sounds shocking. Why do most
American movies insist on trying to do our accent when they end up
sounding like someone who has been in transit between the UK and the US. I
admit that we do a pretty bad job of trying to speak with an American accent.

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