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Brad Ward

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Nov 9, 1994, 11:53:04 AM11/9/94
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I think this quote, "badges we don't need no stinkin' badges" is from
"The Treasure of Sierra Madre", am I correct? Also, what is going on
in the story that makes this quote so memorable. Some background if
you please. --Brad

Eric Gross

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Nov 9, 1994, 3:15:17 PM11/9/94
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In article <39qupg$8...@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> cl...@freenet1.scri.fsu.edu (Brad Ward) writes:
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Yes, from the treasure of the Sierra Madre.

After warring and fighting over the gold, the main characters are confronted
with some Mexican bandits, posing as police, who take the gold. When
confronted and asked for proof of their law enforcement status (Let me see
your badges) they reply "etc.,"

H...@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu

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Nov 9, 1994, 7:20:47 PM11/9/94
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In article <39qupg$8...@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>
cl...@freenet1.scri.fsu.edu (Brad Ward) writes:

Actually, it's from "The Magnificent Seven," which is modeled directly
after Kurosawa's "The SEven Samurai." Check it out.

Jeff Kelley 5350

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Nov 10, 1994, 1:25:51 PM11/10/94
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The original poster is correct. It's from "The Treasure of Sierra Madre".
Bogie and his cohorts are pinned down in a shootout by some Mexican
bandits. When the bandits realize that Bogie and his men are too well
hidden, they start claiming to be police (or soldiers ?) to try to get
Bogie's men to come out from hiding. At one point, Bogie asks to see
their badges. You can guess what the reply is.

If this quote is in "The Magnificent Seven" (which I don't think it is),
it is definitely pre-dated by ToSM. I just saw "The Seven Samurai" a
couple of weeks ago, and I don't recall the line being in there either.

Jeff

H...@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu

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Nov 10, 1994, 6:12:30 PM11/10/94
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In article <1994Nov10.1...@lds.loral.com>
Ok, my mistake about "Seven." I didn't mean to imply that any character
in "Seven Samurai" said this all-too-Western phrase. I was just relating
Seven to Samurai. Mea culpa.

BarryZ1016

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Nov 10, 1994, 7:15:23 PM11/10/94
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In article <39qupg$8...@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>, cl...@freenet1.scri.fsu.edu
(Brad Ward) writes:

>I think this quote, "badges we don't need no stinkin' badges" is from
>"The Treasure of Sierra Madre", am I correct?

Correct. The bandidos have the prospectors pinned down, and Alfonso
Bedoya ("Yellow Hat") yells, "Come out! We are the Federales; the
Police!" Fred Dobbs (Bogart) yells back "If you're the police, let's see
your badges!" Bedoya responds "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't
need no badges! WE DON'T GOT TO SHOW YOU NO STINKIN' BADGES!!!"

Used by Mel Brooks in a funny scene in "Blazing Saddles," too.

Barry Zimmerman

Paul Kunkel

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Nov 10, 1994, 12:58:38 PM11/10/94
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In article <egross.131...@mailer.fsu.edu>,

That still does not explain why it became a Hollywood running gag.
I do not have the answer, just another question.

Long ago, I heard this line on the late show. It was not TREASURE OF
THE SIERRA MADRE. In fact, this time it was Bogart himself, playing a
bandito, who delivered the line.

As usual, I was not wide awake during the late show, and though I do
not remember, I may have been hitting the sauce that night. Did I dream
this, or did Bogart actually make a cameo appearance and delivery this
line in some other movie?

Kunkel


Roy H. Gordon

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Nov 12, 1994, 2:05:33 AM11/12/94
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> >I think this quote, "badges we don't need no stinkin' badges" is from
> >"The Treasure of Sierra Madre", am I correct?

> Correct. The bandidos have the prospectors pinned down

No. At this point Bogart and the others are hiding, and Bedoya and the
other banditos have just pulled into their camp. Bedoya walks towards the
hiding men without seeing them. As he nears Bogart, Bogart sticks his head
up and tells them to stop. It's at this point that Bedoya ludicrously
claims that he and his men are federales. (I just saw the film again
last night, and this is how I remember it.)

Years ago I read about the making of the film. This is what I remember
(corrections welcome): Bedoya was an amateur actor. He was very
insecure and didn't ever know whether he was doing good or bad. Houston
played on his insecurities to coax from him the wanted performance of one
with hardly controllable emotions just beneath the surface and a menacing
insincerity when trying to restrain them.

The other two banditos at the water hole were real prisoners, borrowed,
in Houston's never ending quest for authenticity (those were supposedly
real leaches on Bogie in _African Queen_), from a local penitentiary.
If I remember correctly, they were in for murder. The scene at the
water hole was shot again and again. But once the men did that under-
stated menacing scuttle down the banks to Bogart, Houston knew he had
it.

Travis Bernhardt

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Nov 12, 1994, 6:05:56 PM11/12/94
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>Actually, it's from "The Magnificent Seven," which is modeled >directly
>after Kurosawa's "The SEven Samurai." Check it out.


I've seen the Magnificent Seven and the Seven Samaurai, and I own Treasure of
the Sierra Madre. The badges quote is most definitely from Treasure of the
Sierra Madre. I've also read the book, and it's there too.

L.J. Gretton

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Nov 12, 1994, 1:31:55 PM11/12/94
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In article <39qupg$8...@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>,

Brad Ward <cl...@freenet1.scri.fsu.edu> wrote:
>I think this quote, "badges we don't need no stinkin' badges" is from
>"The Treasure of Sierra Madre", am I correct? Also, what is going on

No, no. It's from Blazing Saddles, when Headey Lamaar (that's Headley) is
recruiting desperados for his posse of low-lifes. They all get a badge, you
see, but the Mexican bandidos 'don't need no stinkin' badges' (followed by
derisive laughter).

Liam


James Ronald Watkins

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Nov 13, 1994, 3:28:07 AM11/13/94
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cl...@freenet1.scri.fsu.edu (Brad Ward) writes:

This quota, or something similar, I recall was in a movie called "Troop
Beverly Hills"


Monica Masterjohn

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Nov 13, 1994, 2:04:17 PM11/13/94
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Travis_B...@rev.iceonline.com (Travis Bernhardt) writes:
> I've seen the Magnificent Seven and the Seven Samaurai, and I own Treasure of
>the Sierra Madre. The badges quote is most definitely from Treasure of the
>Sierra Madre. I've also read the book, and it's there too.

How about Blazing Saddles????

Steven Stuart

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Nov 14, 1994, 11:17:01 AM11/14/94
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Well, it is from The Treasure of The Sierra Madre, and it was re-used in
Blazing Saddles.


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Steven Stuart
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day...@eagle.wesleyan.edu

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Nov 14, 1994, 11:27:13 AM11/14/94
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(Tongue in cheek assumed) No, it's from BROTHER FROM ANOTHER PLANET. The two
white aliens take turns reciting the line at the bar after ordering beer. On
the rocks.


Lucia Ortiz

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Nov 14, 1994, 6:40:00 AM11/14/94
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it was in Mel Brook's film Blazing Saddles, but were did it originate
from??

Paul Wake

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Nov 14, 1994, 3:58:39 PM11/14/94
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Various people write things like:
>No, no. It's from Blazing Saddles...

Geez, folks, if people have seen it in Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and
you haven't seen that movie and therefore have no basis for believing it
wasn't in that movie, maybe you could take their word for it! Especially
since it is in Treasure of the Sierra Madre, which came BEFORE any of
these other movies, and is therefore from Treasure of the Sierra Madre.
It may have been copied by later movies, but it didn't originate with
them.

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Joe Horowitz

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Nov 14, 1994, 9:11:20 PM11/14/94
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! (Groan)

Reality check, people! Yes, the quote did appear in _TROOP BEVERLY HILLS_,
and _BLAZING SADDLES_ and _THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN_ and all the other movies
that have been mentioned in this thread, along with probably 2 or 3 dozen
others (although I don't remember it being in _THE SEVEN SAMURAI_, as
someone suggested -- that was in Japanese, for God's sake!).

But as you can see above, the original post asked where the quote was
FROM, and specifically suggested _THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE_
and then asked for confirmation. Since _THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA
MADRE_ was made in the forties, it predates ALL those other films by a
number of years. Hence, it should be obvious that the quote originated
there.

A previous post in this thread set up the incidents in the story that
led up to it, so I won't duplicate that here.

As for what makes it so memorable, who knows? It's just one of those
quotes that stands out in a movie, and I think that the more it gets
quoted, the more memorable it becomes, simply because it's by now a
part of our popular culture. It seems to me it gets quoted so often
in movies because it's become accepted by now that it's a funny "in-
joke" to include in a movie -- though at this point it's gotten so
ubiquitous that it can no longer really be considered an "in-joke".

Incidentally, the "quote" in fact isn't a quote; the line "Badges? We
don't need no steenkin' BADGES!!" was never actually spoken in the
original film. However, I don't wan't to start yet another thread
in which people endlessly correct each other as to the exact wording
of the original line in _TTOTSM_, because I've already seen that
thread at least twice in this group. All I'll say is, if you want to
know what he really said, watch the movie.

-- jnh

Ted Thompson

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Nov 14, 1994, 11:57:13 PM11/14/94
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In article <101380....@wb3ffv.ampr.org>,
lucia.ortiz%gou...@wb3ffv.ampr.org (Lucia Ortiz) wrote:

> it was in Mel Brook's film Blazing Saddles, but were did it originate
> from??


Originally, it is from "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" and the lines
were spoken by Alfonso Bedoya.

In a scene in "Brewster McCloud" when the high school glee club is
rehearsing, they are doing so in the gymnasium of "Alfonso Bedoya High
School".

Ted

Lars Jorgen Aas

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Nov 15, 1994, 6:36:37 PM11/15/94
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Read The FAQ. It's covered there...

And while I'm into it, here's a little something I picked of
alt.humor.best-of-usenet a while ago, that fits the situation
pretty good...

Q: How many usenetters does it take to screw in a light-bulb?

A1: Read the FAQ!

A2: Two: One to screw it in, and one to say "Me too!".

A3: You ignorant fool! This is the wrong newsgroup! Take this discussion
to sci.engr.lighting...

A4: Two: One to change it, one to complain about how much better it was before.

A5: One, but he isn't reading this newsgroup for sure!

A6: None. The glow from the monitors should be enough.

Lars J

Bill Steele

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Nov 15, 1994, 5:18:04 PM11/15/94
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In article <3a8j1v$t...@news.cc.utah.edu> Paul Wake,
Paul...@m.cc.utah.edu writes:
...t is in Treasure of the Sierra Madre, which came BEFORE any of

>these other movies, and is therefore from Treasure of the Sierra Madre.
>It may have been copied by later movies, but it didn't originate with
>them.

It just popped up in a TNT promo for TOTSM--maybe somebody there has been
reading this group. For the record, spoken by an actor named Jose
Gonzales Gonzales, who was in a lot of westerns back then with a sort of
over-the-top Mexican accent.

pagan

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Nov 17, 1994, 2:10:15 AM11/17/94
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In article <1994Nov14...@eagle.wesleyan.edu>,

NO NO again NO! It's from Weird Al's "UHF". A mexican guy is
collecting animals, and when confronted with a badger,
he gets all serious and says "Badgers? We don't need no
steenking badgers".

David Garcia

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Nov 17, 1994, 2:56:32 AM11/17/94
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In article <3a31mr$n...@hawk.le.ac.uk>, lj...@le.ac.uk (L.J. Gretton) writes:
Isn't is also in Gotcha!

-Dave

Ted Thompson

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Nov 16, 1994, 9:52:47 AM11/16/94
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In article <3abc2s$9...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, Bill Steele
<ws...@cornell.edu> wrote:


Sorry, line spoken by Alfonso Bedoya.

day...@eagle.wesleyan.edu

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Nov 17, 1994, 9:44:42 AM11/17/94
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You are correct about TMS being modeled on TSS, but the "badges" line most
certainly does not appear in either movie. It is from TREASURE OF THE SIERRA
MADRE.


cur...@mlvax.lonestar.org

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Nov 15, 1994, 2:53:45 PM11/15/94
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As I remember Bogart and Walter Huston are prospecting in Mexico in the Sierra
Madre Mountains. They encountered a band of outlaws who identified themselves
as Federales and demanded their weapons. When Bogart replied he wanted to see
their badges the outlaw leader replied, "Badges? We don't need no stinking
badges." This movie came out in 1948 or 1949.
Curtis

TornCot

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Nov 18, 1994, 8:20:08 AM11/18/94
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The actor was not Jose Gonzales-Gonzales. Gonzales got his start (I
believe) on you bet your life and eventually appeared in several Jiohn
Wayne films, including the Alamo. The bandido in Sierra Madre was Alfonso
Bedoya, his biography can be found in any good movie encyclopedia.

Dave Krugman

Gregg Germain

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Nov 18, 1994, 12:53:35 PM11/18/94
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Joe Horowitz (horo...@andr.UB.com) wrote:

: Incidentally, the "quote" in fact isn't a quote; the line "Badges? We


: don't need no steenkin' BADGES!!" was never actually spoken in the
: original film. However, I don't wan't to start yet another thread
: in which people endlessly correct each other as to the exact wording
: of the original line in _TTOTSM_, because I've already seen that
: thread at least twice in this group. All I'll say is, if you want to
: know what he really said, watch the movie.

Which I did last night and you are, of course, correct.

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edward brian paul

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Nov 17, 1994, 1:52:09 PM11/17/94
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--
If you try asking about 'badges' in the Cardiff Movie Database,
(http://www.cm.cf.ac.uk/Movies/moviequery.html) you will find:

1. [1]Gold Hat in [2]Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The said
"Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges.
I don't have to show you any stinkig badges."

**************************************************************

Brian


Murray Chapman

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Nov 20, 1994, 11:03:52 PM11/20/94
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cur...@mlvax.lonestar.org writes:

>> Actually, it's from "The Magnificent Seven," which is modeled directly
>> after Kurosawa's "The SEven Samurai." Check it out.

>As I remember Bogart and Walter Huston are prospecting in Mexico in the Sierra
>Madre Mountains. They encountered a band of outlaws who identified themselves
>as Federales and demanded their weapons. When Bogart replied he wanted to see
>their badges the outlaw leader replied, "Badges? We don't need no stinking
>badges." This movie came out in 1948 or 1949.
>Curtis


1948

From The Internet Movie Database:

Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The


[This is the origination of this quote]
Gold Hat: Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't
have to show you any stinking badges.

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