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Hitchcock Cameo Appearances in his own films, Rope???

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S. Fortney

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May 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/26/95
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I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,
etc.

What about Rope where the whole movie takes place in the apartment?

Dave
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Lynda Moulton

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May 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/26/95
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In article <3q3p4a$1...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, wa...@u.washington.edu (S. Fortney) says:
>
>I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
>appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,
>etc.
>
>What about Rope where the whole movie takes place in the apartment?
>

When the guests were all leaving--wasn't AH in the elevator, or walking
down the hall? Could be wrong. Perhaps this was before he started
doing his cameos? There was a very interesting bio of AH on A&E last
night. After he left Selznik behind, he made some movies which were not
well recieved. Rope was one of them. Although I liked it for the most
part, I thought Jimmy Stewart was miscast in it. The two murderers were
delightfully smarmy, tho. Had it's roots in the Loeb/Leopold murder,
I think.

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Bob Morris

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May 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/26/95
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wa...@u.washington.edu (S. Fortney) writes:

>I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
>appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,
>etc.

>What about Rope where the whole movie takes place in the apartment?

He's in a neon sign in the background outside of the apartment!

Bob Morris

Colin Needham

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May 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/27/95
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wa...@u.washington.edu (S. Fortney) wrote:
>I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
>appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,
>
>What about Rope where the whole movie takes place in the apartment?

There's a fairly comprehensive list of Hitchcock cameos in the FAQ for
this newsgroup. Here's how to obtain a copy, taken from the FAQ itself:

|Copies of this article may be obtained by anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu
|under /pub/usenet/news.answers/movies/faq. Or, send email to
|mail-...@rtfm.mit.edu with "send usenet/news.answers/movies/faq" in the
|body of the message.

See question 10.

Col


Dicie Balash

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May 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/28/95
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Hitchcock did appear in the background in Rope in the guise of Mr.
Kentley.
I read this 2 weeks ago in a book about Hitchcock's films.
If you remember, Hitchcock and the actor who played ol' Mr. Kentley were
not not different from each other in appearance: old, gray, balding,
chubby.

Hope this helps. You can find out specifically about any of his cameos
by reading the books about his films...wish I could remember the name of
the one I read.

Corrie Balash
(rze...@prodigy.com)


Bob Morris

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May 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/28/95
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RZE...@prodigy.com (Dicie Balash) writes:

Absolutely not true! Hitch appears in a sign seen outside the window.
Your book is wrong!

Analogous to his appearance in a newspaper ad in Lifeboat.

Bob Morris

bo...@phy.bme.hu

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May 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/29/95
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In article <3q3p4a$1...@nntp4.u.washington.edu> wa...@u.washington.edu (S. Fortney) writes:
>From: wa...@u.washington.edu (S. Fortney)
>Subject: Hitchcock Cameo Appearances in his own films, Rope???
>Date: 26 May 1995 05:31:54 GMT

>I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
>appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,

>etc.

First of all, he didn't appear in the street in RW, he appeared in the
composer's apartment (about 25 minutes from the beginning). He did appear in
the street in Vertigo, but only as a passer-by. What you had in mind was
probably his appearance in North by Northwest where he misses the bus.

There are two appearances in Rope. Just after the credits, Hitch is seen
walking along the street, with a woman on his side. Later, a red, flashing
neon-sign can be seen from the apartment window. On the neon-sign you can
see his famous profile (that he designed himself) and the word 'Reduco', the
name of the fictitious obesity slayer that he had already advertised in
Lifeboat. This neon-sign is pretty blurry, however.

bo...@phy.bme.hu

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May 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/29/95
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>Hitchcock did appear in the background in Rope in the guise of Mr.
>Kentley.
>I read this 2 weeks ago in a book about Hitchcock's films.
>If you remember, Hitchcock and the actor who played ol' Mr. Kentley were
>not not different from each other in appearance: old, gray, balding,
>chubby.

Mr Kentley was played by Sir Cedric Hardwicke!!!


bo...@phy.bme.hu

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>>I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
>>appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,
>>etc.
>>What about Rope where the whole movie takes place in the apartment?
>When the guests were all leaving--wasn't AH in the elevator, or walking
>down the hall? Could be wrong. Perhaps this was before he started

No elevator is ever shown in Rope! What you mixed it with was probably his
appearance in Spellbound where he had walked out of an elevator in Empire
Hotel in New York!


Dave Quinn

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May 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/30/95
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Does anyone notice in Psycho II, there is a scene where Norman and meg
tilly walk into his mother's old room, there is a shadow on the bottom
right hand corner of a few frames that is a silouette of Hitchcock's
famous Profile? Am i just seeing things? because i've seen it a few
times and No one else I've shown it too has...


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bellan...@wcsub.ctstateu.edu

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In article <3qa7ok$27...@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, RZE...@prodigy.com (Dicie Balash) writes:
> Hitchcock did appear in the background in Rope in the guise of Mr.
> Kentley.


He also made a cameo in the form of a news paper ad in the film "LIFEBOAT"
Hey did he make a cameo in the film "DIAL M FOR MUDRER"?

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Conor Buescher

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In article <1995May3...@wcsub.ctstateu.edu>,

Yes, he was in the picture hanging on the wall of all the old school
chums.

Hitchcock made cameos in all of his movies, except for is some of the
early German ones.

Conor Buescher
bue...@python.cs.orst.edu

Brad Aisa

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Jun 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/2/95
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In article <3q3p4a$1...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, wa...@u.washington.edu (S. Fortney) says:
>
>I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
>appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,
>etc.
>
>What about Rope where the whole movie takes place in the apartment?

Wasn't there a shot of the street below the apartment, with passersby,
during the credits? He could have been there (but I doubt it.)

He didn't do cameos in every film. I heard he stopped doing it,
because the audience was becoming too distracted waiting for him
to appear.

I am personally very opposed to the practice, as I am to "product
placements" -- these types of real-life referents (the director,
commercial sponsors, etc.) have no place in a work of art.

(Of course the director playing a character is a different question,
then they are acting. But when they just do a token "cameo", the
whole purpose is to be there qua real-life person, not ficticious
supernumerary.)


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mwc

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Jun 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/4/95
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For a list of Hitchcock*s cameos check out The Hitchcock Page at
http://www.primenet.com/~mwc/

It contains many things of interests to Hitchcock fans. Its still in
BETA mode now but stop by and check it out. Let us know what you think.


Scott Promish

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In <3qm1q3$7...@noc.tor.hookup.net> ba...@hookup.net (Brad Aisa) writes:

>
>In article <3q3p4a$1...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, wa...@u.washington.edu
(S. Fortney) says:
>>
>>I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
>>appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,
>>etc.
>>
>>What about Rope where the whole movie takes place in the apartment?
>
>Wasn't there a shot of the street below the apartment, with passersby,
>during the credits? He could have been there (but I doubt it.)

Actually, in Rear Window, wasn't he in one of the apartments the main
character was looking in on?

In one film he was seen waiting for a bus, only as he was about to get
on the door shut and the bus drove off! I think it was either North By
Northwest or The Man Who Knew Too Much.

Rebecca Scriven

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I saw on the web somewhere in a hitchcock page a listing of all his
appearences. I think i read that in ROPE there was a flashing Neon sign
that could be seen from the apartment, that had something to do with him -
might have been the famous cartoon pic of him.
Rebecca

In article <3qm1q3$7...@noc.tor.hookup.net>, ba...@hookup.net (Brad Aisa) wrote:

> In article <3q3p4a$1...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, wa...@u.washington.edu
(S. Fortney) says:
> >
> >I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
> >appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,
> >etc.
> >
> >What about Rope where the whole movie takes place in the apartment?
>
> Wasn't there a shot of the street below the apartment, with passersby,
> during the credits? He could have been there (but I doubt it.)

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MM. Iles

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: > In article <3q3p4a$1...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, wa...@u.washington.edu

: (S. Fortney) says:
: > >
: > >I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
: > >appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,
: > >etc.
: > >
: > >What about Rope where the whole movie takes place in the apartment?

In Rear Window, he appeared in the apartment of the Pianist opposite
when he was holding a party. He appeared getting off a bus in North by Northwest
just as the opening titles finish. I'm not sure about Rope. He made cameo
appearances in all of his films bar the first few.

Mark
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Stuart Walsh

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Jun 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/7/95
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In article <bokor.21...@phy.bme.hu> bo...@phy.bme.hu writes:

> ...

> There are two appearances in Rope. Just after the credits, Hitch is seen
> walking along the street, with a woman on his side. Later, a red, flashing
> neon-sign can be seen from the apartment window. On the neon-sign you can
> see his famous profile (that he designed himself) and the word 'Reduco', the
> name of the fictitious obesity slayer that he had already advertised in
> Lifeboat. This neon-sign is pretty blurry, however.
>

Are you absolutely sure about this? I watched Rope for the umpteenth time
after reading this thread just to see this cameo but IT ISN'T THERE!

The people on the street after the credits are:

Man & woman (man with paper) walking left to right. Man is too slim to be
Hitch, but with strict corsetting it could conceivably Hitch with Alma,
though very unlikely.

Single man with briefcase walks right to left - definitely not Hitch.

Policeman shows two children across street and stops car - not Hitch.

There is no sign outside the main apartment windows just a skyscraper strewn
Manhattan skyline. Through the windows on the right are two large neon letters
(an 'S' and something else). Nowhere can I see the Hitch profile let alone
the word 'Reduco'.

Has anybody seen this cameo not just read about it?
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dtk

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Jun 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/7/95
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From the WWW Hitchcock homepage list of cameos:

ROPE (1948): His trademark can be seen briefly on a neon sign in the
view from the apartment window.

mwc

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bellan...@wcsub.ctstateu.edu wrote:

>Hey did he make a cameo in the film "DIAL M FOR MUDRER"?
>
>--

Yes he did. He*s on the left side of the class-reunion photo,
thirteen minutes into the film.

For a complete list of his cameos check out The Hitchcock Page

http://www.primenet.com/~mwc/


bo...@phy.bme.hu

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>He didn't do cameos in every film. I heard he stopped doing it,
>because the audience was becoming too distracted waiting for him
>to appear.

Nonsense. Perhaps he didn't appear in each of his early British pictures,
but he appeared in every movie after Rebecca (1940)!!

>I am personally very opposed to the practice, as I am to "product
>placements" -- these types of real-life referents (the director,
>commercial sponsors, etc.) have no place in a work of art.

This is no "product placement", this is more like a signature of the artist
(like painters used to do it).

Gary Noel

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Rebecca Scriven (reb...@ecel.uwa.edu.au) wrote:
: I saw on the web somewhere in a hitchcock page a listing of all his

: appearences. I think i read that in ROPE there was a flashing Neon sign
: that could be seen from the apartment, that had something to do with him -
: might have been the famous cartoon pic of him.
: Rebecca

: In article <3qm1q3$7...@noc.tor.hookup.net>, ba...@hookup.net (Brad Aisa) wrote:

: > In article <3q3p4a$1...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, wa...@u.washington.edu
: (S. Fortney) says:
: > >
: > >I didn't see him appear in Rope. Anyone know? In Rear Window he
: > >appeared in the street, in Vertigo he appeared getting off a bus,
: > >etc.
: > >
: > >What about Rope where the whole movie takes place in the apartment?

: >
: > Wasn't there a shot of the street below the apartment, with passersby,


: > during the credits? He could have been there (but I doubt it.)

: --
: Rebecca Scriven
: reb...@ecel.uwa.edu.au

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David Lee

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Jun 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/12/95
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In rec.arts.movies, Stuart Walsh <Stu...@stuwalsh.demon.co.uk> writes:
>In article <bokor.21...@phy.bme.hu> bo...@phy.bme.hu writes:
..etc..

>Are you absolutely sure about this? I watched Rope for the umpteenth time
>after reading this thread just to see this cameo but IT ISN'T THERE!
..etc.

>Has anybody seen this cameo not just read about it?


I agree.. This thread has been talked about many times.. I also have
not seen Hitchcock in Rope anywhere.. The FAQ on Hitchcock's cameos
is also vague on this movie.. I have not read anyone who definitely
has seen Hitchcock in Rope but merely repeats the thread that have been
posted..

Maybe Colin can give us a definite answer.. How about it???


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Patricio Lopez

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Jun 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/15/95
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> Hitchcock made cameos in all of his movies, except for is some of the
> early German ones.

I have a list of all his cameos in my site if anybody is interested.



Patricio Lopez Guzman
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http://nextdch.mty.itesm.mx/~plopezg/Kaplan/Hitchcock.html

B Winton C

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In article <3rhg2v...@oasys.dt.navy.mil> on rec.arts.movies,
dl...@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee) wrote:

> I agree.. This thread has been talked about many times.. I also have
>not seen Hitchcock in Rope anywhere.. The FAQ on Hitchcock's cameos
>is also vague on this movie.. I have not read anyone who definitely
>has seen Hitchcock in Rope but merely repeats the thread that have been
>posted.

Some have claimed that Hitchcock is one of the people walking through the
street
scene that follows the opening credits, but I am not entirely convinced
that any
of the adult males in that scene is him. There is a very definite cameo
later in
"Rope" which takes the form of a flashing neon sign in the background
cityscape
seen through the windows of the main room. The sign is in the shape of
Hitch's
famous drawn profile. The sign is first visible at about 00:54:47 from
the start
of the film, just after Hardwicke takes the books from Dall you get a
quick shot
of it over Collier's left shoulder. The sign flashes on and off, and I
counted it
being in the on state 14 times over a period of about 50 seconds with the
14th
time being as Stewart leaves the room. Later, at 00:59:19, just after
Evanson
leaves, the camera turns to Granger standing alone in the main room, the
bottom
edge of the sign can be seen to the left of Granger and is on 3 times,
then as he
moves to the right the entire sign is seen one last time.

(( Bruce Winton Christopher ))
(( Illinois, USA ))

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