Actors that always play the "bad guy"
Luis Carvacho
Well... I am now initiating a list with actors that always (or almost
always) play the role of "bad guy" in the movies. If you know of a movie
where the following actors didn't play the bad guy, please let me know...
Richard Lynch
Michael Ironside
Joss Ackland
Peter Lorre
Sam Wanamaker (exception: "Pure Luck")
Henry Silva
R.G. Armstrong
Theda Bara (This is an actress of silent movies.)
Cristopher Lee (there are a couple of exceptions. "Airport 75" I recall)
Bela Lugosi
Lon Chaney Jr. (Not sure about Lon Chaney Sr.)
I think this is a very representative list. Please add more to it if you
want.
Regards
Luis.
Brendan Bassett
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>Yes. This is yet another list of "actors that.." and the like.
>Well... I am now initiating a list with actors that always (or almost
>always) play the role of "bad guy" in the movies. If you know of a movie
>where the following actors didn't play the bad guy, please let me know...
>Richard Lynch
>Michael Ironside
There was a film on cable where Ironside played a reformed bad guy. Rae Dawn
Chong and the guy who played the racist deputy in Mississipi Burning were in
it also. Ironside is the most menacing, dangerous-looking mother in modern
films, bar none.
>Joss Ackland
>Peter Lorre
Played a good guy in Roger Corman's "The Raven", I think, with Jack Nicholson.
>Sam Wanamaker (exception: "Pure Luck")
>Henry Silva
>R.G. Armstrong
>Theda Bara (This is an actress of silent movies.)
>Cristopher Lee (there are a couple of exceptions. "Airport 75" I recall)
>Bela Lugosi
>Lon Chaney Jr. (Not sure about Lon Chaney Sr.)
I don't remember his name, but the guy who gets shoved off the roof at the
end of "The Untouchables" always plays bad guys. Man, my memory is really
deficient tonight.
>I think this is a very representative list. Please add more to it if you
>want.
Brendan Bassett
Reuven William Goren
The head bad guy in The Crow
The oriental guy with the mustache in Die Hard (I think that's the one)
I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
I'm sure I'll think of more....
Laterer,
Reuven
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Sheree Angelque Strawbridge
> I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
Interesting teenage flick BTW.
Sheree
Tom Cavender
: >always) play the role of "bad guy" in the movies. If you know of a movie
: >where the following actors didn't play the bad guy, please let me know...
: I don't remember his name, but the guy who gets shoved off the roof at the
: end of "The Untouchables" always plays bad guys. Man, my memory is really
: deficient tonight.
Billy Drago.
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Greg Bryant
: I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
Hoosiers, as the alchoholic father trying to redeem himself.
Black Widow as one of the husbands Theresa Russell does in.
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Reuven William Goren <rg...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
Hate to be nit-picky, but, just for one example, Hopper's character in
Apocolypse Now wasn't a bad guy in any way (a little screwed up, maybe,
but, then again, it is Dennis Hopper). My $0.02.
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>Reuven William Goren (rg...@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
>: I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
>Hoosiers, as the alchoholic father trying to redeem himself.
>Black Widow as one of the husbands Theresa Russell does in.
That asian bloke who played Eddie (the prime suspect in 'Rising Sun').
He is in a zillion other films/TV programmes (dredging memory here:
Kickboxer 2, Raven...)
With eyebrows like his, he's doomed to play yakuza / drug lords / nasty
businessmen for eternity :)
The only time he played a really good guy was in the James Bond flick
'Licence To Kill' - and even then he was playing a Hong Kong narcotics cop
undercover as an evil drug lord :)
I'm buggered if I can remember the actor's name...
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>Greg Bryant (gbr...@eri.erinet.com) wrote:
>>Reuven William Goren (rg...@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
>>: I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
>>Hoosiers, as the alchoholic father trying to redeem himself.
>>Black Widow as one of the husbands Theresa Russell does in.
True Romance, strange movie, because it's the only film where Hopper is
the most normal character.
Actors who always play bad guys:
1. Brion James (Blade Runner, Striking Distance, etc)
2. Al Leong (candy-bar thief in Die Hard, Big Trouble in Little China, etc)
3. Michael Gambon (Cook, Thief, etc, Toys)
4. Michael Rooker (Days of Thunder, Sea of Love, Henry: Serial Killer)
It's easy!
>That asian bloke who played Eddie (the prime suspect in 'Rising Sun').
>He is in a zillion other films/TV programmes (dredging memory here:
>Kickboxer 2, Raven...)
>I'm buggered if I can remember the actor's name...
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>I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
>I'm sure I'll think of more....
Wasn't he in _Easy Rider_? He wasn't exactly a bad guy in that
one either, just crazy. But, as someone else said-- it *is*
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> : >I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
> : >I'm sure I'll think of more....
>
> : Wasn't he in _Easy Rider_? He wasn't exactly a bad guy in that
> : one either, just crazy. But, as someone else said-- it *is*
> : Dennis Hopper. :)
Apocolypse Now; not bad, just kind of a loony.
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: Reuven William Goren (rg...@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: : I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
: Hoosiers, as the alchoholic father trying to redeem himself.
: Black Widow as one of the husbands Theresa Russell does in.
True Romance, where he sacrifices himself for his son...
Avoid normal situations.
: Reuven William Goren <rg...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
: >I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
: >I'm sure I'll think of more....
: Wasn't he in _Easy Rider_? He wasn't exactly a bad guy in that
: one either, just crazy. But, as someone else said-- it *is*
: Dennis Hopper. :)
Also, he was unquestionably one of the good guys in _Flashback_ and _Riders
of the Storm_, and he was kinda one of the good 'uns in _Hoosiers_.
If memory serves, he also plays a hero of sorts in _The Texas Chainsaw
Massacre 2_; I read the parts of L.M. Kit Carson's script that were published
in _Film Comment_ some years back, but everyone says the movie's a loser and
a half so I haven't seen it yet.
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Greg Bryant
: Thre's pretty much always Lee van Cleef.
:
: Maria
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Second only to Clint Eastwood in his ability to give a great sneer. Too
bad he never achieved the fame that Clint did.
"The name's Plisken" - Kurt Russell to Lee Van Cleef in "The Good, the
Bad, and the Ugly" (edited out)
"Vincent, I thought you were dead" - Lee Van Cleef to John Travolta in
the "The Bonnie Situation" of "Pulp Fiction" (edited out)
Greg Bryant
: >Michael Ironside
: There was a film on cable where Ironside played a reformed bad guy. Rae Dawn
: Chong and the guy who played the racist deputy in Mississipi Burning were in
: it also. Ironside is the most menacing, dangerous-looking mother in modern
: films, bar none.
: Brendan Bassett
Ironside must be trying to reform his ways. According to TV Guide, he
joins E.R. this week as the new hospital chief. Of course TVG describes
him as "an idiosyncratic perfectionist who shakes things up with his
unique management style". Given his previous roles, I'm curious to see
exactly what this "unique management style" is.
Sheree Angelque Strawbridge
Ann Leibowitz (sp?) of stars. The one that is labelled "The
Bad Guys" (or something like that) has two guys sitting
together:
Dennis Hopper and Christopher Walken
Now it has already been established here that they sometimes
play good guys, but hey, they make really great baddies!
Bradley Wilson
Hey! What about MASTER NINJA?
And he sort of was a bad-guy-turned-good-guy in IT CONQUERED THE WORLD.
Was he a "bad guy" in ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK or just not very nice?
NightMare's Nightmare
>.> I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
>>Hate to be nit-picky, but, just for one example, Hopper's character in
>>Apocolypse Now wasn't a bad guy in any way (a little screwed up, maybe,
>>but, then again, it is Dennis Hopper). My $0.02.
> How about "Hoosiers"???
Well then there now! If my short term memory serves me correctly, I
believe he was a little bit of a good guy who was killed by a bad guy
in True Romance. Really, it's not my memory, but NightMare's, but I just
decided to look cool. I hope this doesn't embarass her.
Koopa Rules in Speed
Lorenzo
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>In article <QjPZ4Mm00...@andrew.cmu.edu>
>Reuven William Goren <rg...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
.> I can't think of any right now where Dennis Hopper is a good guy.
>Hate to be nit-picky, but, just for one example, Hopper's character in
>Apocolypse Now wasn't a bad guy in any way (a little screwed up, maybe,
>but, then again, it is Dennis Hopper). My $0.02.
How about "Hoosiers"???
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Dabney Coleman seems to play a prick in a lot of his movies.
Nine to Five, for one, thought I can't think of any else!
John Groseclose
>Any (Every!) English Shakespearian Actor.
Patrick Stewart doesn't play the bad guy very often... In fact, he usually
plays one of the GOOD guys.
Leondegrance (sp?) in "Excalibur"
Gurney Halleck in "Dune"
Even Malcolm McDowell doesn't ALWAYS play the bad guy ("Time After Time,"
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: On 27 Mar 1995, Third Man wrote:
: >
: >
: >
: Dabney Coleman seems to play a prick in a lot of his movies.
: Nine to Five, for one, thought I can't think of any else!
He played a prick in the great Muppets Take Manhatten! He also played a prick
in The Man with One Red Shoe with Tom Hanks. That's all I can get right now.
Mikko Barros
: Thre's pretty much always Lee van Cleef.
:
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John Snowden-Van Valin
The only roles I can think of that aren't
blatantly evil are his roles in Few Good Men
(where he ended up to be somewhat bad anyway),
and the Cuckoo's Nest (where he was kinda a
wild against the grain kinda guy as well).
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>From: vjs...@nwu.edu (John Snowden-Van Valin)
>Subject: Re: Actors that always play the "bad guy"
>Date: 4 Apr 1995 03:49:04 GMT
>Jack Nicholson.
There are exceptions (Predetor 2) but Gary Busey seems to play a bad
guy an awful lot (Drop Zone, Under Siege, other movies I can't think of
right now)
DONNA ANSTEY
vjs...@nwu.edu (John Snowden-Van Valin) writes:
>Jack Nicholson.
>
>The only roles I can think of that aren't
>blatantly evil are his roles in Few Good Men
>(where he ended up to be somewhat bad anyway),
>and the Cuckoo's Nest (where he was kinda a
>wild against the grain kinda guy as well).
>
for which he won an Oscar?
Dennis Hopper only plays bad guys. Did anyone mention him (I missed the
beginning of this thread)?
John Lindsey
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: Jack Nicholson.
: The only roles I can think of that aren't
: blatantly evil are his roles in Few Good Men
: (where he ended up to be somewhat bad anyway),
: and the Cuckoo's Nest (where he was kinda a
: wild against the grain kinda guy as well).
Try his role as Eugene O'Neill in Reds with Warren Beatty.
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: : The only roles I can think of that aren't
: : blatantly evil are his roles in Few Good Men
: : (where he ended up to be somewhat bad anyway),
: : and the Cuckoo's Nest (where he was kinda a
: : wild against the grain kinda guy as well).
: Try his role as Eugene O'Neill in Reds with Warren Beatty.
: The Chiropteran
Here's a list of actors who believe that playing the bad is the only true role
in Hollywood!
John Lithgow
John Malcovich
Jeremy Irons
Ricardo Maltaban(sp?)
Jack Nickolson
DAbney Colman
that dude in Lethal Weapon II (The main bad dude that is!)
and others.....
Amanda Boynton (ARHS 96)
In a previous article, vjs...@nwu.edu (John Snowden-Van Valin) says:
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>>John Malcovich
>
>But John Malcovich's part in Of Mice and Men
>was by no means a bad guy, although he wasn't
>always nice. (Refraining from spoiler) That's
>a classic, and he was wonderful.
>
>
Also check out "Empire of the Sun" Basie was survivior, not a bad
guy...
But it is my opinion that only his parts in "Sid and Nancy"
"Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead" and "Immortal Beloved" have kept
Gary Oldman from being doomed to an eternal role of an evil guy.
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>
>>
>> Dennis Hopper only plays bad guys. Did anyone mention him (I missed the
>> beginning of this thread)?
>>
>>
>
>father. He was a very good guy, and Christopher Walken (who was
>excellent) played the heavy opposite Hopper.
Well, you'd be pretty hard pressed to find someone who played ONLY
bad guys!
Basil Rathbone, who played good guy Sherlock Holmes, is otherwise
best known for his villainous roles.
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The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
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>I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
>
>The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
>
He's a reasonably good guy pretty frequently. For instance,
there's Kelly's Heroes, Klute, The Great Train Robbery, Ordinary
People, and JFK. That's just off the top of my head. (He has
a wide variety of parts -- I doubt if anyone but Gene Hackman and
Michael Caine appear in as many films as he does.)
John D.
MICHAEL J ROBINSON
> Dennis Hopper only plays bad guys. Did anyone mention him (I missed the
> beginning of this thread)?
>
I though one of the funniest things about "True Romance"is that Hopper is the
voice of reason.
-M
BIER, LAURENCE
>I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
>
>The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
He played a pretty nice guy in _Steelyard Blues_, a good cop in _Klute_,
_Animal House_, in _Fellini's Casanova_ he was a little creepy, but good.
He also played a good guy (though a convicted criminal) in _The Dirty Dozen_.
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>He played a pretty nice guy in _Steelyard Blues_, a good cop in _Klute_,
>_Animal House_, in _Fellini's Casanova_ he was a little creepy, but good.
>He also played a good guy (though a convicted criminal) in _The Dirty Dozen_.
He also played the good guy a patriot in In Eye of the Needle
Auf Wiedersehen,
Frank Zimmerman
Gary Huang
period.
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>I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
>
>The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
Here's a list, not necessarily complete (culled from the Internet Movie
Database) -
"Citizen X"
"Robert A. Heilein's The Puppet Masters"
"Six Degrees of Separation"
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
"JFK"
"Bethune: The Making of a Hero"
"A Dry White Season"
"Lost Angels"
"The Trouble With Spies"
"Wolf at the Door"
"Heaven Help Us"
"Revolution"
"Crackers"
"Ordinary People"
"The Great Train Robbery"
"Murder By Decree"
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers"
"National Lampoon's Animal House"
"Fellini's Casanova"
"The Day of the Locust"
"S*P*Y*S"
"Don't Look Now"
"Lady Ice"
"Steelyard Blues"
"Johnny Got His Gun"
"Klute"
"Little Murders"
"Alex in Wonderland"
"Kelly's Heroes"
"Start the Revolution Without Me"
"The Dirty Dozen"
"The Bedford Incident"
These are just the ones I've seen or where I know for a fact that he
didn't play a villain. In some cases, one can argue about how nice
the characters were, but none of these were out-and-out villain roles.
Certainly in films like "Ordinary People" and "Klute" he played out-and-
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>Malcolm MacDowell.
>period.
Um... Not. I feel I only need but give one example: Time After Time, with Mary
Steenbergen. By no means a great film, but he certainly does NOT play a bad
guy.
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>Marni L Hager (hag...@watserv.ucr.edu) wrote:
>: John Snowden-Van Valin (vjs...@nwu.edu) wrote:
>: : Jack Nicholson.
>
>: : The only roles I can think of that aren't
>: : blatantly evil are his roles in Few Good Men
>: : (where he ended up to be somewhat bad anyway),
>: : and the Cuckoo's Nest (where he was kinda a
>: : wild against the grain kinda guy as well).
>
>: Try his role as Eugene O'Neill in Reds with Warren Beatty.
>
>: The Chiropteran
>
>Here's a list of actors who believe that playing the bad is the only true role
>in Hollywood!
>
>John Lithgow
Sure. I remember him as the evil Mr. Henderson in Harry and the Hendersons.
>John Malcovich
Who could forget his evil role in Making Mr. Right?
>Jeremy Irons
Ooh.. He sent chills down my spine in The Wild Duck.
>Ricardo Maltaban(sp?)
Ricardo Montalban scared the willies out of me as the evil Mr. Rourke in Return
to Fantasy Island...
>Jack Nickolson
I swore off Nicholson films after seeing the epitomy of evil in Five Easy
Pieces.
>DAbney Colman
Man, after Cloak & Dagger, I couldn't see Coleman again without cringing.
>that dude in Lethal Weapon II (The main bad dude that is!)
Don't know who ya mean. Sorry.
>and others.....
>
>
Point made.
-David
Zach Curtis
>
> Dennis Hopper only plays bad guys. Did anyone mention him (I missed the
> beginning of this thread)?
>
>
You are forgetting True Romance, in which Hopper played Christian Slater's
John Snowden-Van Valin
<17377DFCD...@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu>,
ANS...@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu says...
>>
>>The only roles I can think of that aren't
>>blatantly evil are his roles in Few Good Men
>>(where he ended up to be somewhat bad anyway),
>>and the Cuckoo's Nest (where he was kinda a
>>wild against the grain kinda guy as well).
>>
>
>
>for which he won an Oscar?
>
Terms of Endearment? I seem to remember it like
that.
John Snowden-Van Valin
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<d...@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu> wrote:
>In a previous article, ga...@elsun344.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Huang) wrote:
>>Malcolm MacDowell.
>>period.
>
>Um... Not. I feel I only need but give one example: Time After Time, with Mary
>Steenbergen. By no means a great film, but he certainly does NOT play a bad
>guy.
>
In his earlier career, he played all kinds of roles, not just Alex from
"A Clockwork Orange," which everybody seems to associate him with.
He played a good guy in Lindsay Anderson's two films, "If..." and "O
Lucky Man." Mind you in "If..." he was a gun-toting youth but, needless
to say, he was the protagonist.
Harv R Laser
these days.
My favorite role of his was in the Invasion of the Body Snatchers
remake from the early 80s.
His work in Outbreak was so wooden, cliched and two dimensional that
it was very sad.
Abigail Larsen
remember right off hand...)
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> Malcolm MacDowell.
> period.
Welll...No. He played good guys in "Time After Time" and
"Cross Creek".
J.B.
RICHARD JOHN) writes:
> Well, you'd be pretty hard pressed to find someone who played ONLY
>bad guys!
>
> Basil Rathbone, who played good guy Sherlock Holmes, is otherwise
>best known for his villainous roles.
>
>Richard A.
>
In more modern films, I have never seen Michael Ironside play anything
other than a villain. The only film I can remember offhand that he was
in (but I'm sure there are others, honest!) was Total Recall.
J.B.
J.B.
>
>I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland
played?
>
>The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be
more.
>
>Fuzznuzz
Try Ordinary People, Klute, Don't Look Now, and maybe JFK (his
character's morality there was a bit ambivalent).
J.B.
Patrick McKane
cur...@augsburg.edu (Zach Curtis) wrote:
>You are forgetting True Romance, in which Hopper played Christian Slater's
>father. He was a very good guy, and Christopher Walken (who was
I wouldn't exactly call him a 'very good' guy since he is a total racist.
Also Hopper was a not-necessarily-bad-guy in Easy Rider. And, oh yeah,
wasn't he the good guy in Blue Velvet :) .
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J.T. Walsh. I can't imagine him playing a good guy, although he wasn't
the MOST evil character in The Grifters. I know he's been in tons of
movies (EVERYONE has seen him before...) but the only other one I can think
of right now is Red Rock West.
Peter Reiher
>
>What about Christopher Walken, Dennis Hopper and Charles Dance?
Walken wasn't a villain in "The Deer Hunter" or "The Dead Zone."
Hopper has played a number of non-bad guys, such as his role
in "Hoosiers." Dance played D.W. Griffith in "Good Morning, Babylon,"
which did not present Griffith as a bad guy.
I. M. Incognito
Jonathan Peachey
What about Christopher Walken, Dennis Hopper and Charles Dance?
Jonathan
Karen Cook
>I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
>
>The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
>
>Fuzznuzz
He played Timothy Hutton's father in "Ordinary People".
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>>
>>The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
>>
>>Fuzznuzz
>He played Timothy Hutton's father in "Ordinary People".
he had the lead role in the movie adaptation of Andre Brink's "A dry white
season" - i can't remember the character's name - but he was a nice guy
Shelagh
Sanjay Mazumdar
>From: slr...@MFS01.cc.monash.edu.au (Shelagh Reynolds)
>Subject: Re: Actors that always play the "bad guy"
>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 03:54:14 GMT
Apart from his role in the tv series Wiseguys and his role as a lawyer
in the forgettable Blindside, Jonathan Banks always seems to play bad guys.
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>
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>John
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John Snowden-Van Valin <vjs...@nwu.edu> wrote:
>Jack Nicholson.
>
>The only roles I can think of that aren't
>blatantly evil are his roles in Few Good Men
>(where he ended up to be somewhat bad anyway),
>and the Cuckoo's Nest (where he was kinda a
>wild against the grain kinda guy as well).
>
also, he wasn't too evil in EasyRider.
on second thought, take that back. he did play a lawyer!
Peter Reiher
>u!rham
>>
>>The only roles I can think of that aren't
>>blatantly evil are his roles in Few Good Men
>>(where he ended up to be somewhat bad anyway),
>>and the Cuckoo's Nest (where he was kinda a
>>wild against the grain kinda guy as well).
>>
>
>also, he wasn't too evil in EasyRider.
>on second thought, take that back. he did play a lawyer!
Like most big name actors, Nicholson has played many, many
sympathetic roles, including his parts in "Chinatown,"
"The Two Jakes," "The Last Detail," "Man Trouble," "Five
Easy Pieces," "The Passenger," "Reds," "Going South," and
"Ironweed." There are a lot of others. In many other films,
he plays characters with at least some redeeming features.
James Wiggs
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ANS...@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (DONNA ANSTEY) wrote:
> Dennis Hopper only plays bad guys. Did anyone mention him (I missed the
> beginning of this thread)?
Not in Hoosiers and True Romance...
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Joel Bradford Klammer <kla...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>Michael Ironside.
John Heard.
October55
(the character, not the actor!).
tim curry? nah--you really think he was a baddie in rocky horror?
karen ;-)
NightMare
WROTE.....
>tim curry? nah--you really think he was a baddie in rocky horror?
How about in Annie?
Gil Rosin
: In article <3n9bif$r...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, octo...@aol.com
: WROTE.....
: >tim curry? nah--you really think he was a baddie in rocky horror?
: How about in Annie?
Dunno if I missed it earlier in this thread, but you forgot my favorite bad guy
actor, Gary Busey.
Ellen amy Cohen
Vampire Slayer". As for actors who ALWAYS play the bad guy, has anyone
mentioned Dennis Hopper?
Ellen amy Cohen
Buddy wasn't a bad guy, was he?
Patrick McKane
dl...@lawson.its.utas.edu.au (Damien James Leer) wrote:
>>I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
>>The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
>>Fuzznuzz
>Sorry, but I think you are wrong there. Alan Alda played Hawkeye Pierce in MASH.
Sorry, but M*A*S*H was a movie before it was a TV show, and, indeed,
Hawkeye was played by Donald Sutherland. Any way, DS was not a bad guy
in Animal House or (until the last 5 seconds) in Invasion of the Body
Snatchers. (There are several other films that come to mind in which
he failed to play a 'bad guy'.)
Paul Kunkel
Miren Seeley <miren....@stonebow.otago.ac.nz> wrote:
>In article <3ml8m9$r...@cam.its.utas.edu.au>, dl...@lawson.its.utas.edu.au
>(Damien James Leer) wrote:
>
>> In article <17379BEB9S...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>, SCAN...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU
>writes:
>> >
>> >I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
>> >
>> >The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
>> >
>> >Fuzznuzz
>>
>> Sorry, but I think you are wrong there. Alan Alda played Hawkeye Pierce
>in MASH.
>
>
>inherited the role for the T.V. series.
Donald Sutherland's Hawkeye Pierce was notably different from Alan
Alda's. In the movie, he was the protagonist, but to call him a nice guy
would be a stretch.
Sutherland can be nice though:
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Miren Seeley
(Damien James Leer) wrote:
> In article <17379BEB9S...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>, SCAN...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU
writes:
> >
> >I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
> >
> >The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
> >
> >Fuzznuzz
>
> Sorry, but I think you are wrong there. Alan Alda played Hawkeye Pierce
in MASH.
Donald Sutherland played Hawkeye in the original movie, Alan Alda
inherited the role for the T.V. series.
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>From: eil...@midget.towson.edu (Michael Eilman)
>Subject: Re: Actors that always play the "bad guy"
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>Ellen amy Cohen (CWL...@prodigy.com) wrote:
>: Don't forget that Donald Sutherland was a very good guy in "Buffy, The
>: Vampire Slayer". As for actors who ALWAYS play the bad guy, has anyone
>: mentioned Dennis Hopper?
>He was a good guy in Hosiers.
>What about Tommy Lee Jones.
Not always a bad guy. He played Ty Cobb. Was Ty supposed to be bad? He also
had some other good guy roles. Help me, please.
He was awsome in NTB, Blown Away and Under Siege. He is truely a great actor,
one of my faves. I'm going to see Batman Forever just for the fact the he is
in it.
Pierre
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Damien James Leer (dl...@lawson.its.utas.edu.au) wrote:
: In article <17379BEB9S...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>, SCAN...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU writes:
: >
: >I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
: >
: >The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
: >
: >Fuzznuzz
Also, he was a neutral, almost good guy in JFK
Chad Bell
was a bit of an asshole.
Michael Eilman
G. MacDonald
>: In article <17379BEB9S...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>, SCAN...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU writes:
>: >
>: >I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
>: >
>: >The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
>: >
>: >Fuzznuzz
>
>Also, he was a neutral, almost good guy in JFK
He also played Dr. Bethune in "Bethune: The Making of a Hero", a
Canadian doctor who I believe introduced some new hygeine methods for blood
tranfusions (???) In any case, he was a good guy...
Greg
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Michael F Murphy
Well, in "The Fugitive" and "Natural Born Killers" he played a cop and a
warden, respectively, which are generally good guys, but in those movies,
he's almost the villain, so I suppose an argument can be made for him...
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where he was a good guy. He was the only guy to give Steven Rea's
character a break! I don't buy that he was supposed to be Russian Though!
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G. MacDonald (gmac...@edu.uwo.ca) wrote:
: [snip]
Justin J Stephen
There appear to be a number of actors that make a career out of playing
bad guys...usually because they look like "bad guys" IMHO. Besides the
two mentioned, I would also have to include Jeroen Krabbe, James Keach,
and Clancy Brown. Sometimes this can prove problematic for the avid
movie-goer.
Let me give you an example...a few years ago I went to see The Fugitive.
One plot twist that is supposed to be a "shocker"is that Kimble's Dr.
friend, the one played by, you guessed it, Jeroen Krabbe, is the one who
arranged to have him killed. Unfortunately, this plot twist came as no
suprise to me because I immediately noted who was playing the character
and correctly surmised the twist.
JS
Justin J Stephen
Russ Arcuri
Stephen) wrote:
This annoyed me a bit too. Why couldn't they have gotten someone else to
play the role -- someone with a reputation for playing a "good" guy? It
would have been much more effective.
Russ Arcuri
rar...@hamilton.edu
Harold Wexler
Actually, they _did_ get someone else to play the role -- the initial
choice to play Dr. Charlie Nichols (imagine Jeroen Krabbe as someone
named Charlie Nichols!) was the fine actor Richard Jordan, who
unfortunately fell ill with an eventually-fatal brain tumor before
filming. But it wouldn't have mattered who played the part --
there aren't that many characters in THE FUGITIVE, ya know? It's
pretty easy to figure out. The hero's-buddy-who-turns-out-to-be-
the-last-person-he-should-trust is a pretty stock Hollywood character
type.
Harold Wexler
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
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abraham francis-fallon
baddie. Check out all the old westerns where he was the villain.
Paul Kunkel
That would be a good idea though. Actors with good guy reputations
should play bad guys all the time. Wait a minute. I may have found a
flaw in my reasoning. I'll get back to you after I've worked it out.
Kunkel
Kevin J. Jarnot
Damien> In article <17379BEB9S...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>,
Damien> SCAN...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU writes:
>> The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there
>> should be more.
Damien> Sorry, but I think you are wrong there. Alan Alda played
Damien> Hawkeye Pierce in MASH. -- dl...@lawson.its.utas.edu.au
Sutherland played Hawkeye in the original movie.
Alda was in the TV series.
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Maria Vitale
: >
: >I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
: >
: >
: >Fuzznuzz
: Sorry, but I think you are wrong there. Alan Alda played Hawkeye Pierce in MASH.
Sutherland and Elliott Gould played Hawkeye and Trapper in the Altman film,
MASH. Alan Alda and Wayne Rogers played the roles on tv.
mlv
Maria Vitale
: j.t. walsh wasn't a bad guy in "the client..." just rather mis-directed
: (the character, not the actor!).
: tim curry? nah--you really think he was a baddie in rocky horror?
Hi, Karen!!
Curry was definitely a bad guy in The Shadow!
mlv
Maria Vitale
: In article <3ml8m9$r...@cam.its.utas.edu.au>,
: dl...@lawson.its.utas.edu.au (Damien James Leer) wrote:
: >In article <17379BEB9S...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>, SCAN...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU writes:
: >>I was recently wondering, how many nice guys has Donald Sutherland played?
: >>The only one I recall is Hawkeye in MASH, but I feel there should be more.
: >>Fuzznuzz
: >Sorry, but I think you are wrong there. Alan Alda played Hawkeye Pierce in MASH.
: Sorry, but M*A*S*H was a movie before it was a TV show, and, indeed,
: Hawkeye was played by Donald Sutherland. Any way, DS was not a bad guy
: in Animal House or (until the last 5 seconds) in Invasion of the Body
: Snatchers. (There are several other films that come to mind in which
: he failed to play a 'bad guy'.)
He was a bad guy in Quicksand: No Escape, cable movie.
mlv