No Education or Experience Necessary.
The Starmaker
Have you noticed? That....
in Hollywood
*most* job openings
in film and TV
doesn't require any education or experience.
Why Is That?
Screen writing ---no need for screen writing school.
Actors....a mirror is all you need.
Producer...who isn't one?
Director...
Casting Director....you just need to know the alphabet.
assistant casting director....abcd, what come after e?
assistant production...
stunts
editing
sound effects
composer...
Do you have any idea how long the list is?
Why Is It that Hollywood Factory jobs doesn't require
an education, experience or talent?
I've heard you cannot get a job collecting garbage in New York City
without a college degree, is that true?
The Starmaker
Scott Dorsey
>Have you noticed? That....
>
>in Hollywood
>
>*most* job openings
>
>in film and TV
>
>doesn't require any education or experience.
>
>Why Is That?
I believe that you are confusing real job openings with fake job openings.
Rememember, if it doesn't pay actual money, or it requires working on
spec (which is basically the same thing as not being paid), it's not a
real job.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Mason Barge
Most jobs don't require an education unless there is a licensure requirement
to protect the public, and in many of those, if you can pass the test you
can get the license. All that matters is whether or not you can do a good
job.
Jobs that do not have any educational requirement:
President of the US
Senator, Congressman, Cabinet member
Judge (some states may require a law degree, I don't know)
Mother/father
Vehicle driver
Soldier/sailor (during some periods, to be an officer requires a college
degree, during others it does not); however, after acceptance they do
provide required training.
CEO of a corporation
Board member
Union leader
Business owner
Hell, I bet 90% of the jobs in this country don't require a degree,
including many of the most important and skilled ones, although in many of
them a degree can replace experience.
Mason Barge
"Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
news:g57na5$mla$1...@panix2.panix.com...
> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
[snip idiocy]
>
> I believe that you are confusing real job openings with fake job openings.
> Rememember, if it doesn't pay actual money, or it requires working on
> spec (which is basically the same thing as not being paid), it's not a >
> real job.
That's begging the question. People who "work on spec" make tons of money.
The richest people in history worked on spec. Think: Picasso, Edison, Tom
Clancey, Henry Ford, J. Paul Getty. IMO commissioned salesmen,
entrepreneurs, and self-employed people of all stripes to have "real jobs".
Not getting paid is a risk taken to gain the possibility of a higher reward,
not a certainty.
The Starmaker
>
> What a stupid post.
I try me best, merci beaucoup.
Stupidity isn't painful.
The Starmaker
It's going to get, stupider..
Stupid Quotes
"If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life."
-Brooke Shields
"Please provide the date of your death."
-from an IRS letter
"I was under medication when I made the decision to burn the tapes."
-Richard (Dicky) Nixon
We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
-Lee Iacocca
"Caution: Cape does not enable user to fly."
-Batman costume warning label
"A verbal contract is not worth the paper it's written on."
-Samuel Goldwyn
"The people in the Navy look on motherhood as being compatible with
being a woman."
-Rear Admiral James R. Hogg
The private enterprise system indicates that some people have higher
incomes than others."
-Gerry Brown
"I have opinions of my own --strong opinions-- but I don't always agree
with them."
-George Bush
"I was provided with addtional input that was radically different from
the truth. I assisted in furthering that version."
-Colonel Oliver North, from his Iran-Contra testimony
"We are sorry to announce that Mr. Albert Brown has been quite unwell,
owing to his recent death, and is taking a short holiday to recover."
-Parish Magazine
"We are not without accomplishment. We have managed to distribute
poverty equally."
-Nguyen Co Thatch, Vietnamese foreign minister
"The word 'genius' isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like
Norman Einstein."
-Joe Theisman, quarterback and sports analyst
"Fiction writing is great, you can make up almost anything."
-Ivana Trump, on finishing her first novel
"I've read about foreign policy and studied, I now know the number of
continents."
-George Wallace, 1968 presidential campaign
"We don't necessarily discriminate. We simply exclude certain types of
people."
-Colonel Gerald Wellman, ROTC instructor
Eight more days and I can start telling the truth again.
-- Sen. Chris Dodd (D, Conn.), on the Don Imus show, on campaigning
If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very low crime
rate.
-- Marion Barry, mayor of Washington, D.C.
Those who survived the San Francisco earthquake said, "Thank God, I'm
still alive." But, of course, those who died, their lives will never be
the same again.
-- Sen. Barbara Boxer, (D, Calif.)
"It isn't pollution that is hurting the environment,
it's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
-Dan Quayle
The Starmaker
<Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jul 10, 4:30 pm, The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> No Education, Experience or Talent Necessary.
>>
>> Have you noticed? That....
>>
>> in Hollywood
>>
>> *most* job openings
>>
>> in film and TV
>>
>> doesn't require any education or experience.
>>
>> Why Is That?
>>
>> Screen writing ---no need for screen writing school.
>>
>> Actors....a mirror is all you need.
>>
>> Producer...who isn't one?
>>
>> Director...
>>
>> Casting Director....you just need to know the alphabet.
>> assistant casting director....abcd, what come after e?
>>
>> assistant production...
>>
>> stunts
>>
>> editing
>>
>> sound effects
>>
>> composer...
>>
>> Do you have any idea how long the list is?
>>
>> Why Is It that Hollywood Factory jobs doesn't require
>> an education, experience or talent?
>
>
>Actors and screenwriters are independent contractors and they go as
>far as their talent and their wits will allow them to go. And some of
>the actors have formally studied acting. BTW, how many colleges offer
>screenwriting degrees?
Independent contractors? Doesn't sound like a true, accurate or
correct answer.
Definition of a Independent contractor:
A person hired to do a particular job, subject to the direction of
a supervisor. An independent contractor pays for his or her own
expenses and taxes, and receives no employee benefits.
I don't think, actors, producers, directors, etc.. who are hired by
studios, pay for theirr *own* expenses.
Close, but no ciger. Would you care to try again?
King of the R.O.U.S.'s
> What a stupid post.
What else would you expect from that idiot?
> Most jobs don't require an education unless there is a licensure requirement
> to protect the public, and in many of those, if you can pass the test you
> can get the license. All that matters is whether or not you can do a good
> job.
>
> Jobs that do not have any educational requirement:
You missed the most obvious one:
NewsGroup Troll
Now, I admit that technically that isn't a paying job, but lots of
people do seem eager to make a lifelong profession out of it.
~Inigo
Mason Barge
"The Starmaker" <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:48778E...@ix.netcom.com...
> Mason Barge wrote:
>>
>> What a stupid post.
>
> I try me best, merci beaucoup.
>
>
>
> Stupidity isn't painful.
> The Starmaker
>
> It's going to get, stupider..
>
>
Okay, as much as I hate a lot of your silly Jew-bashing, etc., you get
points for a good reply to a flame.
The Starmaker
In the radio business they call them "Radio Talk Show Host". They make
money by coming up with topics that get callers to call in. Then they
call the callers "idiots" for responding to their radio show.
Maybe I should get into the radio business...what topics should I come
up with?
Maybe I can start with, 99 percent of the (WGA) Writers Guild of
America (America???) members are Jewish. That explains why you hardly
will see colleges offering Screen Writers college degrees, because
otherwise the 99 percent WGA members would be out-of-work.
If they made it a "requirement" that screenwriters must have a college
degree in screen writing, Hollywood would certainty not let that
happen. They would be forced by law to hire mostly non-Jews and that
would go against everything they believe in.
Of course, if you make it a requirement that screenwriters must have a
college degree, you will have better TV shows and Films...but what are
the Jewish people going to do for "a living"?
How about Casting Director School? Shouldn't the requirement be
something more than just having "file clerk" skills?
"Blond hair girls go into the Blond Hair folder."
The Starmaker
The real reason they don't offer screenplay college degrees is because
they know Hollywood will never hire them, ...unless of course they're
[whisper] Jewish.
Mason Barge
I didn't say anything about producers. They are a completely different
animal. Some of them are theoretically more along the line of entrepreneurs
(although they may be titular employees of the company they own).
> Close, but no ciger. Would you care to try again?
>
Pfft. You're citing some article about IRS treatment for purposes of FICA
withholding and pretending you have a valid point. This isn't about SSI
law. So that you don't get confused, let me replace "independent
contractor" with "independent agent" (even though some movie employees
actually do meet the IRS definition of independent contractor, i.e. they pay
their own SS taxes).
Almost no movie actors or scriptwriters are permanent employees of studios.
This is different from the old days, when studios would hire actors and then
assign films to them. They get hired for a specific movie, or part of a
specific movie, sign a contract.
The Starmaker
An "independent agent" is an *insurance* term. It's an insurance
agent who represents multiple insurance companies, not just a single
one.
The truth is, there is no term to describe the people Hollywood hires.
It's that way for a purpose..to keep others out.
>
>Almost no movie actors or scriptwriters are permanent employees of studios.
>This is different from the old days, when studios would hire actors and then
>assign films to them. They get hired for a specific movie, or part of a
>specific movie, sign a contract.
Why don't you just call them "independent unlicensed contractors".
Hatunen
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:32:04 -0400, "Mason Barge"
><mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Pfft. You're citing some article about IRS treatment for purposes of FICA
>>withholding and pretending you have a valid point. This isn't about SSI
>>law. So that you don't get confused, let me replace "independent
>>contractor" with "independent agent" (even though some movie employees
>>actually do meet the IRS definition of independent contractor, i.e. they pay
>>their own SS taxes).
>
>An "independent agent" is an *insurance* term. It's an insurance
>agent who represents multiple insurance companies, not just a single
>one.
More accurately, it's an insurance agent who is not contracted to
represent only a single company and *could* represent others if
he/whe wished.
I think there's a confusion here with the concept of baseball's
"free agent", who isn't an agent at all in legal terms, and
"agent", legally someone who represents and acts for another
entity.
>The truth is, there is no term to describe the people Hollywood hires.
>It's that way for a purpose..to keep others out.
Having once been an independent contractor as an engineer, I can
tell you that the distinguishing characteristic is that your
"employer" does not, and is not required to, have you fill out a
W-4 and does not take withoholding out of his payments to you.
Not nly that, but your commuting expenses can be deducted on your
tax return. Needless to say, lots of engineers would scheme to
attain this status but the IRS gets pretty testy about it, and
has a number of criteria that must be met, including that there
not be direct supervision by your "employer".
>>Almost no movie actors or scriptwriters are permanent employees of studios.
>>This is different from the old days, when studios would hire actors and then
>>assign films to them. They get hired for a specific movie, or part of a
>>specific movie, sign a contract.
>
>Why don't you just call them "independent unlicensed contractors".
What licensing? State licensing requirements only pertain to a
few occupations.
--
************* DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Mason Barge
What the hell are you talking about? It's a perfectly good English phrase.
You want to tell us that we can't call an actor's representative an "agent"
because the term refers to an FBI employee?
> Why don't you just call them "independent unlicensed contractors".
Now that is flat wrong. There's no license involved.
The point is, there's no ongoing employment relationship and no expectation
of one (in the movies). There's certainly no need for an educational
component. You gonna' tell me Julia Roberts or George Clooney can't open a
movie because they didn't graduate from college. Or for that matter, Demi
Moore, who didn't graduate from 9th grade?
Producer: "Demi would be perfect as the topless bimbo soldier".
Studio Exec: "Don't be ridiculous, the job description requires a BA in
Exdesia. Let's get some resumes and interview the ten best qualified."
The Starmaker
Exactly. No licensing. A Casting Director needs no licensing to cast
you, just knowledge of the letters of the alphabet. Don't you think a
casting director should have a little more something to cast you
besides knowing where to put photo in which folder in the file
cabinet?
The Starmaker
<mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
Hollywood agents are called "Talent Agents", not "agent". Wrong
English phrase.
>
>> Why don't you just call them "independent unlicensed contractors".
>
>Now that is flat wrong. There's no license involved.
Exactly. That is the Subject of this thread. No education or
experience required. No degree required. No license required. No
nothing required.
Like for example. In Hollywood, you can be just 16 years old...still
going to high school and get a gig in one movie as an editor, sound
effects and composer. No license, experience or education or degree
required, nothin, nada.
>
>The point is, there's no ongoing employment relationship and no expectation
>of one (in the movies). There's certainly no need for an educational
>component.
That is the Subject of this thread, *nothing* is required. Why is
that? That was my question at the first post. Why is NOTHING required?
> You gonna' tell me Julia Roberts or George Clooney can't open a
>movie because they didn't graduate from college. Or for that matter, Demi
>Moore, who didn't graduate from 9th grade?
No, I'm saying they *can* cause nothing is required. How did you
manage to reverse the meaning of this thread?
David Johnston
No. There's no way to test and certify the ability to pick the right
actor for the right role. It's all guesswork.
The Starmaker
wrote:
Obviously, something is very wrong here...
if you want somebody to paint your
home they say you should make sure
they have a contractors license.
But if you want somebody to *cast* your
100 million dollar movie, no license, no
degree, no education, no experience required,
no casting director school, not even file clerk school!
Just gotta be able to handle, paper cuts...and guess?
I'm willing to bet the majority of Casting Directors today
come from Apple One Temp Agency.
I mean, where else could they possibly come from?
The Starmaker
David Johnston
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:22:13 GMT, David Johnston <da...@block.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:16:04 -0700, The Starmaker
>><star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Exactly. No licensing. A Casting Director needs no licensing to cast
>>>you, just knowledge of the letters of the alphabet. Don't you think a
>>>casting director should have a little more something to cast you
>>>besides knowing where to put photo in which folder in the file
>>>cabinet?
>>
>>No. There's no way to test and certify the ability to pick the right
>>actor for the right role. It's all guesswork.
>
>Obviously, something is very wrong here...
>if you want somebody to paint your
>home they say you should make sure
>they have a contractors license.
Houses are _physical objects_ that exist in the present. Whether you
successfully covered all the parts of the house that should be covered
is objectively verifiable. It is not objectively verifiable before
the fact how the public at large will react to a certain casting
choice a few years later. It isn't even possible to determine
objectively whether the casting was the problem, or the casting was
fine and the directing was bad or the script was bad.
>
>But if you want somebody to *cast* your
>100 million dollar movie, no license, no
>degree, no education, no experience required,
>no casting director school, not even file clerk school!
It's not something that be taught or tested.
polar
> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> Exactly. No licensing. A Casting Director needs no licensing to cast
>> you, just knowledge of the letters of the alphabet. Don't you think a
>> casting director should have a little more something to cast you
>> besides knowing where to put photo in which folder in the file
>> cabinet?
You're just pissed off at all casting directors because
they won't give you an acting job. You don't need a
license to see if someone's a no-talent jerk.
The Starmaker
wrote:
Film is art. Each frame is instant art. Each frame is a blank canvas
until the camera captures all the art put into it. The director paints
on film. All the art is composed of background features and clothing,
etc...put there by all those involved in the creative process. Casting
Directors don't belong in the creative process if all they know is
"file clerk". And script writers should not be writing if they are
going to add garbage to the frames, and the director and all the
others without and education or experiences should not be painting
garbage in the film frames. They sell mostly garbage because they have
no experience or education.
>
>>
>>But if you want somebody to *cast* your
>>100 million dollar movie, no license, no
>>degree, no education, no experience required,
>>no casting director school, not even file clerk school!
>
>It's not something that be taught or tested.
Try teaching or testing a file clerk girl!
This just out!
Screenwriting for Dummies
http://www.amazon.com/Screenwriting-Dummies-Laura-Schellhardt/dp/0764554867
The reason why there are no Casting Directors schools is
because...Hollywood doesn't like to hire people with education or
experience. They don't even ask for a resume!
I don't even think they have job applications.
The Starmaker
I'm not an actor, polar bear.
Joe Kotroczo
"The Starmaker" <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
You're wrong about the "no experience" bit.
--
Joe Kotroczo kotr...@mac.com
The Starmaker
Joe Kotroczo
"The Starmaker" <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
(...)
>>> But if you want somebody to *cast* your
>>> 100 million dollar movie, no license, no
>>> degree, no education, no experience required,
>>> no casting director school, not even file clerk school!
>>> Just gotta be able to handle, paper cuts...and guess?
>>>
>>> I'm willing to bet the majority of Casting Directors today
>>> come from Apple One Temp Agency.
>>>
>>> I mean, where else could they possibly come from?
>>
>>
>> You're wrong about the "no experience" bit.
>
> Example?
Name 1 casting director of a 100 million dollar movie without prior
experience.
--
Joe Kotroczo kotr...@mac.com
The Starmaker
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
How about "Casting Directing for Dummies"?
Nobody gots that book out. I can write it!
I can start write now!
"Casting Directors for Dummies"
Table of Contents:
Part1. The Casting Couch
Chapter 1: Do you want to see Angelina Jolie or Johnny Depp naked?
Chapter 2. 20 naked blond girls in one room!!!
Chapter 3. How to make an actor take off his/her clothes.
Chapter 4. How to have sex with actors and keep them silent.
Chapter 5. 100 naked girls in one room!!!!
Chapter 6. Ladies, now you can have any male actor naked.
Part 2. The Producers
Chapter 1. How to Extort money from Producers.
Excerpt:
When a producer calls you needing actors and stars for his movie,
that is the time to extort every penny you can get.
Tell the producer that without you they won't have a movie!
Then ask for $2,500.00 up front just to add stars, plus you require
"producers credit".
Just scream at them from the top of your lungs,
"Without me motherfucker YOU WOULDN'T HAVE a movie!!!!I'll
make sure every CSA member doesn't talk to you motherfucker.
I want my fuckin $2,500 upfront now motherfucker and "producers
credit". And throw in billboard credit while you're at it
motherfucker!"
Part3. How to tell the difference between Clark Kent and Superman.
Chapter 1:..........
From the Back Cover
"Valuable advice. . . . I've been extorting money from Producers for
years. Now I'm asking for Billboard credit!!!!"
—CSA Member of the Casting Society of America
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
wrote:
>On 17/07/08 18:31, in article crsu74l9u7bsfi5c3...@4ax.com,
Are you trying to say that a Casting Director of any movie whether 100
million or 500 million or ten dollas is hired based on their
"experience"?
David Johnston
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
And therefore subjective.
>
>>
>>>
>>>But if you want somebody to *cast* your
>>>100 million dollar movie, no license, no
>>>degree, no education, no experience required,
>>>no casting director school, not even file clerk school!
>>
>>It's not something that be taught or tested.
>
>Try teaching or testing a file clerk girl!
I could do that easily. A file clerk is doing something objectively
verifiable. Either the files are in order, or they aren't. A casting
director is not a file clerk. A course in being one will not make you
a good one.
>
>This just out!
>Screenwriting for Dummies
>http://www.amazon.com/Screenwriting-Dummies-Laura-Schellhardt/dp/0764554867
Which will not tell you how to write an artistically good script. All
it will do is tell you how to write in the script format. Uwe Boll's
scriptwriter knows how to write in the script format.
>
>The reason why there are no Casting Directors schools is
>because...
There's no real way to teach successful casting.
The Starmaker
wrote:
Will you stop using big werds please? You're just talking to yourself.
The Subject heading reads Re: No Education or Experience Necessary.
Try to learn how to communicate with Hollywood people.....
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>But if you want somebody to *cast* your
>>>>100 million dollar movie, no license, no
>>>>degree, no education, no experience required,
>>>>no casting director school, not even file clerk school!
>>>
>>>It's not something that be taught or tested.
>>
>>Try teaching or testing a file clerk girl!
>
>I could do that easily. A file clerk is doing something objectively
>verifiable.
Stay away from file clerks with that language of yours...
" objectively verifiable"? Do you know what they call people who talk
the way in Hollywood? But, you go ahead and make a fool of
yourself...
> Either the files are in order, or they aren't. A casting
>director is not a file clerk. A course in being one will not make you
>a good one.
A casting director is a file clerk. They come from employment agencies
like Apple One (besides friends and relatives)...there is no Casting
Director schools that exist. The Casting Director calls Apple One and
orders the cheapest employee they can find to do filing...then they
have them do Casting. That's how it works. That's how you become a
Casting Director in Hollywood.
>
>>
>>This just out!
>>Screenwriting for Dummies
>>http://www.amazon.com/Screenwriting-Dummies-Laura-Schellhardt/dp/0764554867
>
>Which will not tell you how to write an artistically good script. All
>it will do is tell you how to write in the script format. Uwe Boll's
>scriptwriter knows how to write in the script format.
No one in Hollywood is attempting to write "an artistically good
script". Where have you been the last 80 years? Or whatever is the age
of Hollywood....
Didn't you *hear* what Harvey Weinstein said, "Lets make bad movies!"
"Don't do any good movies"
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/HW-6.html
>
>>
>>The reason why there are no Casting Directors schools is
>>because...
>
>There's no real way to teach successful casting.
You didn't read my "Casting Director for Dummies"?
I teach how to be a successful Casting Director.
You become a Sucessfull Casting Director by extorting Producers.
I'll post it again in case you missed it...
David Johnston
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>Film is art.
>>
>>And therefore subjective.
>
>Will you stop using big werds please?
Sorry, no. It's not my fault if you are illiterate.
>>
>>I could do that easily. A file clerk is doing something objectively
>>verifiable.
>
>Stay away from file clerks with that language of yours...
>
>" objectively verifiable"? Do you know what they call people who talk
>the way in Hollywood? But, you go ahead and make a fool of
>yourself...
>
>> Either the files are in order, or they aren't. A casting
>>director is not a file clerk. A course in being one will not make you
>>a good one.
>
>A casting director is a file clerk.
No, they aren't. Interviewing job applicants is no part of a file
clerk's job.
>>>The reason why there are no Casting Directors schools is
>>>because...
>>
>>There's no real way to teach successful casting.
>
>You didn't read my "Casting Director for Dummies"?
Not being a dummy I won't bother.
Hatunen
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:02:08 -0400, "Mason Barge"
><mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>What the hell are you talking about? It's a perfectly good English phrase.
>>You want to tell us that we can't call an actor's representative an "agent"
>>because the term refers to an FBI employee?
>
>Hollywood agents are called "Talent Agents", not "agent". Wrong
>English phrase.
"Agent" is a legal term applied to those who represent others and
have the authority to take actions for them. In this case the
agents in question represent talent. Both terms are correct, the
latter is more specific.
>>
>>> Why don't you just call them "independent unlicensed contractors".
>>
>>Now that is flat wrong. There's no license involved.
>
>Exactly. That is the Subject of this thread. No education or
>experience required. No degree required. No license required. No
>nothing required.
Well, OK. But the "unlicensed" is gratuity and irrelevant.
>Like for example. In Hollywood, you can be just 16 years old...still
>going to high school and get a gig in one movie as an editor, sound
>effects and composer. No license, experience or education or degree
>required, nothin, nada.
Sure. And I'm an unlicensed Usenet poster.
Surely you'll not deny it.
>>The point is, there's no ongoing employment relationship and no expectation
>>of one (in the movies). There's certainly no need for an educational
>>component.
>
>That is the Subject of this thread, *nothing* is required. Why is
>that? That was my question at the first post. Why is NOTHING required?
Something is required: talent.2
Hatunen
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Casting agents of have something: talent. Good casting requires a
form of talent. A casting agent without this talent will not cast
many movies.
That's not to say there aren't some talentless casting directors
out there, but I doubt the're making much money and they're
mostly working for the producers of Z movies.
Hatunen
<da...@block.net> wrote:
There's more than guesswork to good casting.
Hatunen
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:22:13 GMT, David Johnston <da...@block.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:16:04 -0700, The Starmaker
>><star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Exactly. No licensing. A Casting Director needs no licensing to cast
>>>you, just knowledge of the letters of the alphabet. Don't you think a
>>>casting director should have a little more something to cast you
>>>besides knowing where to put photo in which folder in the file
>>>cabinet?
>>
>>No. There's no way to test and certify the ability to pick the right
>>actor for the right role. It's all guesswork.
>
>Obviously, something is very wrong here...
>if you want somebody to paint your
>home they say you should make sure
>they have a contractors license.
>
>But if you want somebody to *cast* your
>100 million dollar movie, no license, no
>degree, no education, no experience required,
>no casting director school, not even file clerk school!
>Just gotta be able to handle, paper cuts...and guess?
Is it rally your argument that the producers of 100m dollar
movies go out and pull casting directors off the street? Don't
you think maybe they hire casting directors with good track
records?
>I'm willing to bet the majority of Casting Directors today
>come from Apple One Temp Agency.
I'll take that bet. How much? How about a thousand bucks?
>I mean, where else could they possibly come from?
The Internet Movie Database is your friend. I looked up the
casting director for the new Batman movie, "The Dark Knight"; it
was John Papsidera. His other credits include:
# After.Life (2009) (pre-production)
# The Possibility of Fireflies (2008) (pre-production)
# The Informers (2008) (post-production)
... aka Bret Easton Ellis' The Informers (USA: complete title)
# Ghost Town (2008/II) (completed)
# The Dark Knight (2008)
... aka Batman: The Dark Knight (USA: informal title)
... aka The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version)
# "Reaper" (13 episodes, 2007-2008)
- Greg, Schmeg (2008) TV episode
- Coming to Grips (2008) TV episode
- Rebellion (2008) TV episode
- Acid Queen (2008) TV episode
- Unseen (2008) TV episode
(8 more)
# Love Lies Bleeding (2008) (V)
# Enchanted (2007)
# The Girl in the Park (2007)
# Primeval (2007)
... aka Kiss (Philippines: English title: review title)
# Black Christmas (2006)
... aka Black X-Mas (USA: promotional abbreviation)
... aka Noël noir (Canada: French title)
# The Prestige (2006)
# Zoom (2006)
... aka Zoom: Academy for Superheroes (USA: DVD title)
# My Super Ex-Girlfriend (2006)
# First Snow (2006/I)
# The Woods (2006)
# Final Destination 3 (2006)
... aka Final Destination 3 (Germany)
# That Guy (2006) (TV)
# "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" (7 episodes, 2005)
... aka It's Always Sunny (USA: promotional title)
- Charlie Got Molested (2005) TV episode
- The Gang Finds a Dead Guy (2005) TV episode
- Gun Fever (2005) TV episode
- Charlie Has Cancer (2005) TV episode
- Underage Drinking: A National Concern (2005) TV episode
(2 more)
# "Prison Break" (1 episode, 2005)
... aka Prison Break: Manhunt (USA: second season title)
... aka Prison Break: On the Run (Australia: second season title)
- Pilot (2005) TV episode
# Batman Begins (2005)
... aka Batman Begins: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version)
# The Safe Side (2005) (V)
# The Longest Yard (2005)
# "Revelations" (2005) TV mini-series (unknown episodes)
# Lackawanna Blues (2005) (TV)
# Catwoman (2004)
# Agent Cody Banks 2: Destination London (2004)
# Secret Window (2004)
# Club Dread (2004)
... aka Broken Lizard's Club Dread (USA: complete title)
# $5.15/Hr. (2004) (TV)
# "Carnivàle" (12 episodes, 2003)
... aka Feria ambulante, La (USA: Spanish title)
- The Day That Was the Day (2003) TV episode
- Day of the Dead (2003) TV episode
- Hot and Bothered (2003) TV episode
- Insomnia (2003) TV episode
- Lonnigan, Texas (2003) TV episode
(7 more)
# Scary Movie 3 (2003)
... aka Scary Movie 3.5 (USA: DVD box title)
# And Starring Pancho Villa as Himself (2003) (TV)
# Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star (2003)
... aka Dickie Roberts: (Former) Child Star (USA: promotional
title)
# Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd (2003)
# Octane (2003)
... aka Pulse (USA: DVD box title)
# Agent Cody Banks (2003)
... aka Agent Cody Banks, L' (Canada: French title)
# Willard (2003)
# Final Destination 2 (2003)
# Live from Baghdad (2002) (TV)
# Living with the Dead (2002) (TV)
... aka Talking to Heaven (Europe: English title) (USA: working
title)
# Sorority Boys (2002)
# Slackers (2002)
... aka Complices, Les (Canada: French title)
# Impostor (2001)
# The One (2001)
... aka Jet Li's The One (UK)
# Bubble Boy (2001)
# What's the Worst That Could Happen? (2001)
# Memento (2000)
# If These Walls Could Talk 2 (2000) (TV)
# Boiler Room (2000)
# Drop Dead Gorgeous (1999)
... aka Gnadenlos schön (Germany)
# Idle Hands (1999)
# Clubland (1999)
# Urban Legend (1998)
... aka Mixed Culture
... aka Urban Legend (France)
# Chicago Cab (1998)
... aka Hellcab (USA: video title)
# Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery (1997)
... aka Austin Powers - Das Schärfste, was Ihre Majestät zu
bieten hat (Germany)
# Another Day in Paradise (1997)
# Bongwater (1997)
# 2 Days in the Valley (1996)
# "Nash Bridges" (1996) TV series (unknown episodes)
... aka Bridges
# Kingfish: A Story of Huey P. Long (1995) (TV)
# "Tales from the Crypt" (3 episodes, 1994-1995)
... aka HBO's Tales from the Crypt
- 99 & 44/100 Pure Horror (1995) TV episode
- Let the Punishment Fit the Crime (1994) TV episode
- Only Skin Deep (1994) TV episode
# Independence Day (1994)
Doesn't sound to me like he's from Apple One Temp Agency.
Hatunen
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:44:21 -0500, polar <po...@winternet.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:16:04 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Exactly. No licensing. A Casting Director needs no licensing to cast
>>>> you, just knowledge of the letters of the alphabet. Don't you think a
>>>> casting director should have a little more something to cast you
>>>> besides knowing where to put photo in which folder in the file
>>>> cabinet?
>>
>>You're just pissed off at all casting directors because
>>they won't give you an acting job. You don't need a
>>license to see if someone's a no-talent jerk.
>
>I'm not an actor, polar bear.
But are you a no-talent jerk?
Hatunen
I suggest you do what I did: go to the Internet Movie Database
and pick a $100m or $500m movie and see who the casting director
was. Then click on the casting director's name and see what his
background is.
The Starmaker
>
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:55:18 -0700, The Starmaker
> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:44:21 -0500, polar <po...@winternet.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:16:04 -0700, The Starmaker
> >>> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Exactly. No licensing. A Casting Director needs no licensing to cast
> >>>> you, just knowledge of the letters of the alphabet. Don't you think a
> >>>> casting director should have a little more something to cast you
> >>>> besides knowing where to put photo in which folder in the file
> >>>> cabinet?
> >>
> >>You're just pissed off at all casting directors because
> >>they won't give you an acting job. You don't need a
> >>license to see if someone's a no-talent jerk.
> >
> >I'm not an actor, polar bear.
>
> But are you a no-talent jerk?
I believe *everyone* in the world has talent, except for casting
directors.
The Starmaker
>
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:22:13 GMT, David Johnston
> <da...@block.net> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:16:04 -0700, The Starmaker
> ><star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Exactly. No licensing. A Casting Director needs no licensing to cast
> >>you, just knowledge of the letters of the alphabet. Don't you think a
> >>casting director should have a little more something to cast you
> >>besides knowing where to put photo in which folder in the file
> >>cabinet?
> >
> >No. There's no way to test and certify the ability to pick the right
> >actor for the right role. It's all guesswork.
>
> There's more than guesswork to good casting.
You have to ignore David Johnston, he's not as honest as you are. He's an intellectually dishonest person.
The Starmaker
and then I'll check to see who is the "assistant casting director" who
does all the work
while the casting director is busy sleeping with actors and extorting
money from producers.
What's in a name?
The Starmaker
You forgot to check his "assistant casting directors".
The ones from Apple One who are helping him spread the photos of
headshots on the floor.
David Johnston
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>Name 1 casting director of a 100 million dollar movie without prior
>>experience.
>
>Are you trying to say that a Casting Director of any movie whether 100
>million or 500 million or ten dollas is hired based on their
>"experience"?
Yes. Any other stupid questions?
The Starmaker
>... aka No�l noir (Canada: French title)
># "Carniv�le" (12 episodes, 2003)
>... aka Gnadenlos sch�n (Germany)
># Idle Hands (1999)
># Clubland (1999)
># Urban Legend (1998)
>... aka Mixed Culture
>... aka Urban Legend (France)
># Chicago Cab (1998)
>... aka Hellcab (USA: video title)
># Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery (1997)
>... aka Austin Powers - Das Sch�rfste, was Ihre Majest�t zu
>bieten hat (Germany)
># Another Day in Paradise (1997)
># Bongwater (1997)
># 2 Days in the Valley (1996)
># "Nash Bridges" (1996) TV series (unknown episodes)
>... aka Bridges
># Kingfish: A Story of Huey P. Long (1995) (TV)
># "Tales from the Crypt" (3 episodes, 1994-1995)
>... aka HBO's Tales from the Crypt
> - 99 & 44/100 Pure Horror (1995) TV episode
> - Let the Punishment Fit the Crime (1994) TV episode
> - Only Skin Deep (1994) TV episode
># Independence Day (1994)
>
>Doesn't sound to me like he's from Apple One Temp Agency.
Oh pulease....are you joking?
You bring up John Papsidera of the new Batman movie.
But where did he come from?
You look closer...when he first started as a
Casting Assistant, Casting Associate for major movies like
Clear and Present Danger (1994) (casting associate)
Clean Slate (1994) (casting associate)
then
as a Casting Director in Independence Day (1994)
Where was he before that? What did he do before he got his first gig
as a casting associate in 1994? Try Apple One file clerk. He certainty
didn't go to Casing Director school because there isn't fuckin any
Casting Directors school that exist! The only Casting Director school
I know of is "File Clerk University!!!!
All Casting Directors are corrupt. And they corrupt their casting
assistants/associates.
You want to be a Casting Director? Just go to Apple One Temp Agency on
Whilshire Blvd and tell the girly that you cannot type and all you
know is how to do is file a folder in a filing cabinet and you will be
Casting "Clear and Present Danger" and eventually Batman the movie!
Come on, this is old stuff....this is reality. It's not my fault you
people allow "file clerks" to cast you or cast your movies.
You're the suckers, not me.
Smart people know, you don't allow Casting Directors to cast your
stuff unless you're just need to buy Stars, cheap.
Smart producers know the only reason to use a Casting Director is to
bribe them to get Stars *attach* to your movies. It's cheaper than
going directly to the Stars agent or the Star themselves. You use
casting directors asses to get you stars for your movie. You certainty
don't need them deciding what actor should play what part. That's
dumb. You don't let "file clerks" do that.
You don't ask a "file clerk" (which is all they are) to make casting
decisions.
You guys are pulling my leg, right?
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:41:42 -0700, The Starmaker
Any other stupid answers? Because you're *full* of them!
The Starmaker
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Now, there are "independent producers" that approach these casting
directors because they need actors and stars for their films. A lot of
them are honest, and they are trying to learn the ropes. So they have
no idea the *all* casting directors are corrupt.
The independent producer might say to the extorting casting
director...
Producer: "I don't like being extorted. I'm going to take my business
elsewhere. And furthermore, I'm going to file a complaint about you
the President of CSA (Casting Society of America)."
Casting Director: "I AM THE FUCKING PRESIDENT OF CSA MOTHERFUCKER!!!"
--Casting directors are actually file clerks and they have "small
minds" so they get very emotional...most casting directors in
Hollywood are of the female species, and if it is a guy then it's
probably a fag.
Why is it in Canada, most of the casting directors are men? Complete
opposite of Hollywood. I figured Canadian men are just a bunch of
pussies.
>
>
>Part3. How to tell the difference between Clark Kent and Superman.
>Chapter 1:..........
"Can you take off your glasses, please?" "YOU'RE SUPERMAN!!!!!!"
How is it that Lois Lane couldn't figure that out?
>
>
>From the Back Cover
>"Valuable advice. . . . I've been extorting money from Producers for
>years. Now I'm asking for Billboard credit!!!!"
>�CSA Member of the Casting Society of America
>
>
>The Starmaker
>
I think I'll start my own Casting Director school. Where can I get a
bunch of file cabinets cheap?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M8Pk1UYkB3I
The Starmaker
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>... aka No�l noir (Canada: French title)
>># "Carniv�le" (12 episodes, 2003)
>>... aka Gnadenlos sch�n (Germany)
>># Idle Hands (1999)
>># Clubland (1999)
>># Urban Legend (1998)
>>... aka Mixed Culture
>>... aka Urban Legend (France)
>># Chicago Cab (1998)
>>... aka Hellcab (USA: video title)
>># Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery (1997)
>>... aka Austin Powers - Das Sch�rfste, was Ihre Majest�t zu
Okay, this is very simple.
I don't know who this "John Papsidera" is...
but the Casting Director
for "Clean Slate" is Mindy Marin.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0547484/
for which John Papsidera is the "casting assistant/associate" to.
Looks like his first gig...
Who also happens to be the
same Casting Director for
Clear and Present Danger (1994)
in which John Papsidera is the "casting assistant/associate".
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660667/
She was the Casting Director and
he continued being her "casting assistant"
for other TV stuff like
# Kingfish: A Story of Huey P. Long (1995) (TV)
# "Tales from the Crypt" (3 episodes, 1994-1995)
... aka HBO's Tales from the Crypt
- 99 & 44/100 Pure Horror (1995) TV episode
- Let the Punishment Fit the Crime (1994) TV episode
- Only Skin Deep (1994) TV episode
and it looks like afterwards..
they broke up...
So what was the relationship between John Papsidera and Mindy Marin?
Was he fucking her?
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>Didn't you *hear* what Harvey Weinstein said, "Lets make bad movies!"
>"Don't do any good movies"
>http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/HW-6.html
"Please fire me," Weinstein facetiously tells Roth. "I'll split
whatever I get . . . I'll meet you in St. Barts. We'll buy both halves
of the island . . . If you don't fire me, then I think we should make
bad movies next year. Let's make a series of shitty movies."
So, how would Harvey Weinstein go about purposely making shitty
movies?
Just grab a script from the garbage can blindfolded?
Call Apple One for casting?
Have J.J. Abrams direct it?
Isn't there laws against this? How come Harvey Weinstein
isn't being thrown in jail for maybe fraud, conspiracy to commit
fraud, aren't the stockholders gettin ripped-off?
Surely any hungry lawyer can listen to the tapes and see there is
money to be made in suing Harvey Weinstein. Class action suit.
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/HW-6.html
Hatunen
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Hatunen wrote:
>> >I'm willing to bet the majority of Casting Directors today
>> >come from Apple One Temp Agency.
>>
>> I'll take that bet. How much? How about a thousand bucks?
>>
>> >I mean, where else could they possibly come from?
>>
>> The Internet Movie Database is your friend. I looked up the
>> casting director for the new Batman movie, "The Dark Knight"; it
>> was John Papsidera. His other credits include:
>>
>> # After.Life (2009) (pre-production)
>> # The Possibility of Fireflies (2008) (pre-production)
>> # The Informers (2008) (post-production)
>> ... aka Bret Easton Ellis' The Informers (USA: complete title)
[beaucooup films deleted]
- Only Skin Deep (1994) TV episode
>> # Independence Day (1994)
>>
>> Doesn't sound to me like he's from Apple One Temp Agency.
>
>You forgot to check his "assistant casting directors".
>
>The ones from Apple One who are helping him spread the photos of
>headshots on the floor.
So you've changed the subject?
Hatunen
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:33:49 -0700, Hatunen <hat...@cox.net> wrote:
>Oh pulease....are you joking?
>
>You bring up John Papsidera of the new Batman movie.
>But where did he come from?
>You look closer...when he first started as a
>Casting Assistant, Casting Associate for major movies like
>Clear and Present Danger (1994) (casting associate)
>Clean Slate (1994) (casting associate)
>then
>as a Casting Director in Independence Day (1994)
>
>Where was he before that? What did he do before he got his first gig
>as a casting associate in 1994? Try Apple One file clerk. He certainty
>didn't go to Casing Director school because there isn't fuckin any
>Casting Directors school that exist! The only Casting Director school
>I know of is "File Clerk University!!!!
Many professions are learn-on-the-job. Once upon a time even
lawyers and architects learned their trades by being someone
else's flunky.
I don't get why you think that's bad.
>All Casting Directors are corrupt. And they corrupt their casting
>assistants/associates.
Piffle.
>You want to be a Casting Director? Just go to Apple One Temp Agency on
>Whilshire Blvd and tell the girly that you cannot type and all you
>know is how to do is file a folder in a filing cabinet and you will be
>Casting "Clear and Present Danger" and eventually Batman the movie!
Have you tried it yoruself?
>Come on, this is old stuff....this is reality. It's not my fault you
>people allow "file clerks" to cast you or cast your movies.
>
>You're the suckers, not me.
We won't discuss what you are.
>Smart people know, you don't allow Casting Directors to cast your
>stuff unless you're just need to buy Stars, cheap.
Casting directors aren't usually responsible for picking the
stars.
Hatunen
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Hatunen wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:55:18 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:44:21 -0500, polar <po...@winternet.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>You're just pissed off at all casting directors because
>> >>they won't give you an acting job. You don't need a
>> >>license to see if someone's a no-talent jerk.
>> >
>> >I'm not an actor, polar bear.
>>
>> But are you a no-talent jerk?
>
>I believe *everyone* in the world has talent, ...
There have been times when I've been casting a play I have wished
that were true.
What do you claim your talent is?
The Starmaker
>On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:47:15 -0700, The Starmaker
><star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>Hatunen wrote:
>
>>> >I'm willing to bet the majority of Casting Directors today
>>> >come from Apple One Temp Agency.
>>>
>>> I'll take that bet. How much? How about a thousand bucks?
>>>
>>> >I mean, where else could they possibly come from?
>>>
>>> The Internet Movie Database is your friend. I looked up the
>>> casting director for the new Batman movie, "The Dark Knight"; it
>>> was John Papsidera. His other credits include:
>>>
>>> # After.Life (2009) (pre-production)
>>> # The Possibility of Fireflies (2008) (pre-production)
>>> # The Informers (2008) (post-production)
>>> ... aka Bret Easton Ellis' The Informers (USA: complete title)
>
>[beaucooup films deleted]
>
> - Only Skin Deep (1994) TV episode
>>> # Independence Day (1994)
>>>
>>> Doesn't sound to me like he's from Apple One Temp Agency.
>>
>>You forgot to check his "assistant casting directors".
>>
>>The ones from Apple One who are helping him spread the photos of
>>headshots on the floor.
>
>So you've changed the subject?
I didn't change the subject. Somebody else did.
If you look at the first posting of this thread I wrote:
"Have you noticed? That....
in Hollywood
*most* job openings
in film and TV
doesn't require any education or experience.
Why Is That?"
I didn't say "all", I wrote "most"...I even put two stars "*most*"
surrounding the word "most" just in case someone would miss it.
Because there is always a smart aleck that searches for the exception.
The Starmaker
>On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:43:17 -0700, The Starmaker
><star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:33:49 -0700, Hatunen <hat...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Oh pulease....are you joking?
>>
>>You bring up John Papsidera of the new Batman movie.
>>But where did he come from?
>>You look closer...when he first started as a
>>Casting Assistant, Casting Associate for major movies like
>>Clear and Present Danger (1994) (casting associate)
>>Clean Slate (1994) (casting associate)
>>then
>>as a Casting Director in Independence Day (1994)
>>
>>Where was he before that? What did he do before he got his first gig
>>as a casting associate in 1994? Try Apple One file clerk. He certainty
>>didn't go to Casing Director school because there isn't fuckin any
>>Casting Directors school that exist! The only Casting Director school
>>I know of is "File Clerk University!!!!
>
>Many professions are learn-on-the-job. Once upon a time even
>lawyers and architects learned their trades by being someone
>else's flunky.
>
>I don't get why you think that's bad.
You don't hire people who are file clerks to do creative work. What is
your problem Hatunen? You're an actor! Do you think actors who are
coming out of college majoring in Performance Art should be cast by
FILE CLERKS?
>
>>All Casting Directors are corrupt. And they corrupt their casting
>>assistants/associates.
>
>Piffle.
nonsense? I have doucumented proof. I got names, I got statements.
This is an actual quote from a very high up CSA casting director:
"...I actually got into an argument with a producer the other day
because I demanded a producer credit for his $2,500 offer to attach
names. His response was "Well, you're not producing anything? I'm the
one who has to do all the hard work". After I jammed several
Triptophane down my throat to keep me from strangling his, I replied,
"yes, but if not for me YOU WOULDN'T HAVE a movie".
And don't ask me for the name of the CSA who quoted that.
>
>>You want to be a Casting Director? Just go to Apple One Temp Agency on
>>Whilshire Blvd and tell the girly that you cannot type and all you
>>know is how to do is file a folder in a filing cabinet and you will be
>>Casting "Clear and Present Danger" and eventually Batman the movie!
>
>Have you tried it yoruself?
Do I sound like a file clerk to you?
>
>>Come on, this is old stuff....this is reality. It's not my fault you
>>people allow "file clerks" to cast you or cast your movies.
>>
>>You're the suckers, not me.
>
>We won't discuss what you are.
>
>>Smart people know, you don't allow Casting Directors to cast your
>>stuff unless you're just need to buy Stars, cheap.
>
>Casting directors aren't usually responsible for picking the
>stars.
What?
Are we going back to file clerk again?
The Starmaker
>On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:35:41 -0700, The Starmaker
><star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>Hatunen wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:55:18 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:44:21 -0500, polar <po...@winternet.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>You're just pissed off at all casting directors because
>>> >>they won't give you an acting job. You don't need a
>>> >>license to see if someone's a no-talent jerk.
>>> >
>>> >I'm not an actor, polar bear.
>>>
>>> But are you a no-talent jerk?
>>
>>I believe *everyone* in the world has talent, ...
>
>There have been times when I've been casting a play I have wished
>that were true.
I meant everyone has talent, in something...I wasn't talking about
talent to cast.
>
>What do you claim your talent is?
I'm the best artist in the world in my field of endeavor. But that has
nothing to do with show biz...
The Starmaker
>
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:35:41 -0700, The Starmaker
> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Hatunen wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:55:18 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:44:21 -0500, polar <po...@winternet.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>You're just pissed off at all casting directors because
> >> >>they won't give you an acting job. You don't need a
> >> >>license to see if someone's a no-talent jerk.
> >> >
> >> >I'm not an actor, polar bear.
> >>
> >> But are you a no-talent jerk?
> >
> >I believe *everyone* in the world has talent, ...
>
> There have been times when I've been casting a play I have wished
> that were true.
You're saying you felt you needed *talent* to cast a play?
The Starmaker
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
But don't get me wrong.
I like the fact that all Casting Directors are corrupt.
It makes life easier.
You can get what you want from them at a price.
For example,
If I was representing unknown singers or rock groups and I wanted them
to become stars, rock stars...
I would simply pay the DJ at the radio station
X amount of dollars to spin the record a certain amount of times on
the radio. You hear a song on the radio, you buy the record at the
record store.
Now, if I was representing actors
to make them Stars...
I use the same system.
I check the Breakdowns to
see what movies are being cast...
see what roles are available...
I see the name of the casting director
I give the casting director X amount of dollars,
I tell the casting director
"I want this part/role for my client. Here's the money."
My client goes on the audition
He or she *gets* the part!
It's paid for already.
The client doesn't know of course...
You do that a few times with your client...it's like spinning a song.
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
Or do you mean "casting directors" don't do the casting?
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