OT: What's life like in San Diego, CA these days?
Ty Ford
Regards,
Ty Ford
-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com
S Harber
there other than shopping and tourism.
Scott Harber
Grew up there and pondered moving back.
Eric Toline
OT: What's life like in San Diego, CA these days?
Group: rec.arts.movies.production.sound Date: Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 8:47am
From: tyre...@comcast.net (Ty Ford)
Regards,
Ty Ford <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
San Diego has a COL index of 45% higher than Baltimore.
Eric
vdub...@earthlink.net
guitar player friend moved there with his wife and kids for other
professional reasons. He loved it for a year and since then he tells
me how much he hates it and it's been bringing his brain down. He was
able to get a beautiful home with a yard and his kids can play outside
unattended, but he's constantly plotting how he can chuck it and move
back to Brooklyn. Not sure about the actual work scene, but my
impression from him is that most of the audio work is more of the doing
the exact same thing daily (like mixing for a building or room) than
creative work.
He's a crazy blues guitarist, and the first group he joined was a
smooth jazz band, which might say something! : )
S Harber
My folks are still there and it can be nice if you're into the
suburban, white self-entitlement, frat boy type situation.
Scott Harber
Ty Ford
(in article <1132586857.7...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
I'll say a prayer. :)
Ty
Dr. Dolittle
You can have it. Yeah, the weather is great, the beach, the zoo, lots of
great things.
Just hope that you don't have to go anywhere. Apparently far too many
people have discovered how great it is...
LA traffic has nothin' on San Diego, take my word for it.
T Maki
> In terms of studio and/or location audio work and cost of living?
Ty,
In trying to come up with a reasonably good response, I decided to just
relate my experience with southern California in general.
I'm in Riverside (been in the Inland Empire - Riverside/San
Bernardino/Redlands, etc.) for 30 years. So I have a little perspective
on what's going on here. And by "here", I mean what I consider the area
inside a 100-mile radius - that's local to me.
The state of audio work in San Diego is pretty much like it is anywhere.
Any market will have opportunities/competition suitable to that
market. But it would be limiting yourself to think only in terms of San
Diego's 800,000-ish population. The greater San Diego area encompasses
the area from the Mexican border north to L.A. and certainly to the
Riverside area - that being up to Temecula. I've worked with several San
Diego companies here in Riverside over the years. So, I think someone
who is good and knows their stuff - it would be my guess that you fit
that description - can find work. If you have to "look" for work as
against coming to an offer, you may have some discouraging moments. And
not because of your skills or knowledge. Mostly because of continuing
exigencies of living here in southern California.
The cost of living issues are not simple. If you put the pointy end of a
compass on LAX and draw the part of a circle over the land mass from
that point that covers roughly 100 miles, you are looking at the
megalopolis that is Southern California. The economic realities here are
like another country. Housing is beyond the capabilities of reasonable
people to understand. We just bought a $23,000 house on a half-acre.
Beautiful place. Built in 1976. But we paid $450,000 for this $23,000
house. And it's in an area in which I would never have even considered
living when I moved to the area in '75. And we virtually made $100,000
on it within six weeks, as a similar house across the street sold for
$535,000. And it's like that all over. Most people I know who have been
in their homes for a number of years, could not afford to buy the house
they own today.
Now, if you have property that you would liquidate at some comfortable
profit, your housing cost-of-entry would be decently reasonable. You'd
just swap one equity for another, finance the balance, and carry on. We
were fortunate in that our previous property had tripled in value over
15 years, and netted us the ability to get into this house for very near
what we were paying before. Low interest rates help, but that's not
going to last forever. My real estate agent friends are looking at a
flat if not slightly downhill view of the market into the future. With a
new Fed chairman and looming elections, all bets are off in terms of the
economy.
The rest of the cost of living issues are similar to any metropolitan
area in the country. A gallon of milk is a couple of bucks, a gallon of
gas a couple of bucks and a half. Shoes at WalMart are $20, at
Nordstrom's $120. It goes up and down with the rest of the economy. For
an individual family, it's not that bad. What you pay in the D.C. area
for heat in the winter, you pay for air conditioning in the summer.
Although in S.D. you'd probably rarely need either.
Certainly you are aware of the political issues in California. And jokes
or disparaging remarks about our governor notwithstanding, this state is
in trouble financially. I've come to the conclusion (as have many
others) that California is un-governable. The issues are far too complex
to go into in a message like this, but most of what you read (if you are
able to read a balanced variety of reports), is generally true.
If you should decide to pull out and move here, just keep some ties
alive. You may decide to renew those ties. Be prepared to give yourself
five to 10 years to really evaluate the situation. After 30 years, there
are still some things I do not understand about this place or its
people. But every time I go back to Michigan (where I grew up and moved
from) or Missouri (where I own acreage on Lake of the Ozarks), or travel
to other parts of the country, I'm always glad to get home. We have
something here that I've found no place else - except maybe NYC. A
vibrance of spirit that just doesn't seem to wane. California marches on
despite everything.
Bottom line: If I had it to do over again, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
There's no place I'd rather live or work.
HTH & Good Luck!
TM
jwill...@audioupgrades.com
Compared to the "fast death" of living in LA or NY?
When I visit LA, I feel like I left the country where there's a bunch
of third world gangs putting me and my Hummer in the cross hairs. Maybe
I should "up-armour" the Hummer with some steel plates...
Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades
jwill...@audioupgrades.com
center. For those of you unversed in real estate lingo, this north
coast of San Diego county is the most desireable place to live in the
country. Real estate prices reflect this. I live in an expensive part
of Carlsbad, the Aviara area of La Costa. Y'know why they call it La
Costa? 'Cause it la costa a lotta to live here!
My house cost $360,000 in 1993. It's worth over a million today. After
living here, I'd have to say it's worth it. Others think so too, or
they wouldn't pay these prices. Just think, after move in, the proberty
taxes would be $15,000 PER YEAR! Glad mine was grandfathered in with a
Prop. 13 rate of $1100 per year.
As to work, if you're really good you can make it anywhere, even in
NYC! If you're average, you might be better off being the big fish in a
little pond.
It's been about 80 degrees here at the beach the last week. How's it in
Baltimore??? It nearly hit 90 here last thursday. Surf's been good,
water clear, best weather in the world. Period. The Anza Borego desert
is incredible, especially if you like 4 wheelin'. Damm, even if you
want a third world experience, Mexico is just a few miles south (and LA
is just a few miles north)! I actually look forward to coming home from
vacation, never, ever felt like that in LA. The quality of life here
is the best, if that kind of thing means anything to you. It changed my
attitude moving here, life is so much better. LA is a big bring down.
Now, don't start telling everyone about this place, boats full!
Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades
jwill...@audioupgrades.com
After 9 am, all clear. Compare to LA, I just drove back. 11 am, full
traffic on the I-5 from Dana point all the way to downtown LA.
Saturday, 10 am; full traffic on the 101 towards Thousand Oaks, this is
SATURDAY! Takes 45 minutes to get from the 405 to Thousand Oaks, on
Saturday. Should take less than 15 minutes.
Went to the Stones concert at Petco (yea, I know, PETCO???) park on a
Friday night. Got from Carlsbad to downtown in 20 minutes. I've done 20
minutes in LA recently just getting off a ramp.
Try going back to LA and check on the traffic, it doesnt move until 3
am!
Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades
In beautiful Carlsbad, CA
vdub...@earthlink.net
jwill...@audioupgrades.com wrote:
> Went to the Stones concert at Petco (yea, I know, PETCO???) park on a
> Friday night
Petco !?!? LOL!! Say no more! : )
Eric Toline
Re: OT: What's life like in San Diego, CA these days?
Group: rec.arts.movies.production.sound Date: Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 11:03am
(EST-3) From: jwill...@audioupgrades.com
9 am, all clear. Compare to LA, I just drove back. 11 am, full traffic
on the I-5 from Dana point all the way to downtown LA. Saturday, 10 am;
full traffic on the 101 towards Thousand Oaks, this is SATURDAY! Takes
45 minutes to get from the 405 to Thousand Oaks, on Saturday. Should
take less than 15 minutes.<<<<<<<<<<<
What is with the California thing with using the word "the" in front of
highway numbers, the I-5, the 405, etc?
Eric
hank alrich
> Try going back to LA and check on the traffic, it doesnt move until 3
> am!
that's because of all the space taken up by Hummers hauling one or two
folks... <g>
--
ha
Dr. Dolittle
Diego, Poway, RB, etc. Just going by what they say. And they tell me it
has become pretty bad the last few years. Too many rats in the cage.
Mike Rivers
jwill...@audioupgrades.com wrote:
> My house cost $360,000 in 1993. It's worth over a million today. After
> living here, I'd have to say it's worth it. Others think so too, or
> they wouldn't pay these prices. Just think, after move in, the proberty
> taxes would be $15,000 PER YEAR! Glad mine was grandfathered in with a
> Prop. 13 rate of $1100 per year.
Sheesh! My house in Northern Virginia cost $155,000 in 1980, is maybe
worth $600,000 now (though the tax assessment is always on the high
side) and my property tax is nearly $7,000/year.
> It's been about 80 degrees here at the beach the last week. How's it in
> Baltimore??? It nearly hit 90 here last thursday.
Oh, pfffffft! I'll bet you don't have to shovel much snow or rake too
many leaves, either. I've been wanting to move to Southern California
for years but I just can't bring myself to either pay as much as I'd
have to for a house or live so far away from civilization that I could
afford a house. Though I'd consider where you live to be too far for my
friends in LA or San Diego to ever come visit me, and it's too far from
an airport where I could get cheap flights outa there. Guess I'll keep
freezing in the Winter. At least as I get older, I don't mind the
Summers as much.
Nomen Nescio
Some generalities on the condition of San Diego
Number one San Diego's real estate prices are too overpriced
which means those with first or lotsa debts are going to be
in trouble when Bernanke fuck's everthing up. Most likely before
the next election. Also, apartments are being renovated as
condominiums all over the county. Gotten so bad the city has limited
these projects because of affordable housing.
Two, do not try to get a job with the city of San Diego, pension
has dried up. This is because of crooked politicians.
Three, bad roads - it's so bad they have to close them at midnight
to work on them (highway 163 trough the park is an example)
stay off Highway 8!
Four, nice beaches, decent clubs aside the touristy ones. Just gotta know
where to find them. Pacific Beach, Ocean Beach, Gaslamp, Solan Beach,
Encinitas are good.
Five, stay outta of Chula Vista and National City too many mexicans.
Acutally this is one of San Diego's biggest flaws - look around and
watch who are constructing the buildings. Mexicans! What wrong with this
picture! Stay out of the bad sections (Shelltown, Logan Heights, Chula
Vista, Imperial Beach, East Village Downtown (east of tenth).
Six, lotsa of freaky and flaky people all of 'em hang out at san diego
oldest bar The Trivoli's or the second one which is cheap but a dive
called the Chee Chee Club at tenth and Broadway. The gay community is
being evicted out of Hillcrest and into North Park.
Seven, crooked utilities. Enron is in litigation for it fiasco a couple
years ago.
Eight, weather is ok. Nice music street fairs and festivals. The Padres,
Charger's and Gulls are alright.
Nine, nice theatre community is budding in San Diego. The town suffers
from schizophrenia in terms of entertainment. (various jazz, alternative,
punk (Soma), classical, country and so forth)
see http://www.sdreader.com/
Ten, audio work is ok but stay away from the cheap bitches and the sucker
mc's, more of biotech town.
Last, http://www.signonsandiego.com/ the san diego union is kinda hoky.
The San Diego Reader has a better source of job demands.
Come to papa!
Nomen Nescio
Some generalities on the condition of San Diego
Number one San Diego's real estate prices are too overpriced
which means those with first or lotsa debts are going to be
in trouble when Bernanke fuck's everything up. Most likely before
the next election. Also, apartments are being renovated as
Condominiums all over the county. Gotten so bad the city has limited
these projects because of affordable housing.
Two, do not try to get a job with the city of San Diego, pension
has dried up. This is because of crooked politicians.
Three, bad roads - it's so bad they have to close them at midnight
to work on them (highway 163 trough the park is an example)
stay off Highway 8!
Four, nice beaches, decent clubs aside the touristy ones. Just gotta know
where to find them. Pacific Beach, Ocean Beach, Gaslamp, Solana Beach,
Encinitas are good.
Five, stay outta of Chula Vista and National City too many mexicans.
Actually this is one of San Diego's biggest flaws - look around and
watch who are constructing the buildings. Mexicans! What wrong with this
picture! Stay out of the bad sections (Shelltown, Logan Heights, Chula
Vista, Imperial Beach, East Village Downtown (east of tenth).
Six, lotsa of freaky and flaky people all of 'em hang out at san diego
oldest bar The Trivoli's or the second one which is cheap but a dive
called the Chee Chee Club at tenth and Broadway. The gay community is
being evicted out of Hillcrest and into North Park.
Seven, crooked utilities. Enron is in litigation for its fiasco a couple
years ago.
Eight, weather is ok. Nice music street fairs and festivals. The Padres,
Charger's and Gulls are alright.
Nine, nice theatre community is budding in San Diego. The town suffers
from schizophrenia in terms of entertainment. (various jazz, alternative,
punk (Soma), classical, country and so forth)
see http://www.sdreader.com/
Ten, audio work is ok but stay away from the cheap bitches and the sucker
mc's, more of biotech town.
Last, http://www.signonsandiego.com/ the san diego union is kinda hokey.
T Maki
> Some generalities on the condition of San Diego
>
> Number one San Diego's real estate prices are too overpriced
With all due respect, real estate can't be overpriced. An "overpriced"
market corrects itself. Demand and people with the willingness to either
spend cash or the ability to borrow are what sets the price.
> which means those with first or lotsa debts are going to be
> in trouble
Again, with all due respect, the people who will be "in trouble" are the
fools who have fallen for the ARM financing scams. Quite legal, but oh,
so tasty for the debt owners. Anybody who fell for one of those deals
may well be just, well...in trouble. Most anybody with a fixed at the
rates we've seen in the last couple of years is in fat city.
> Three, bad roads - it's so bad they have to close them at midnight
> to work on them
Again, with all due respect, the roads being "so bad" isn't why they
close them at midnight to fix them. They close them at midnight because
[with my best Sam Kinnison voice] THEY CAN'T WORK ON THEM DURING HIGH
TRAFFIC PERIODS WITHOUT SHUTTING DOWN THE WHOLE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
Somebody finally wised up and figured out that "Hey, we could get a lot
more done if there weren't so many cars around. When would that be? Oh
yeah, at night. Get some Muscolights, hire some crew and let's get to work."
When would you prefer for them to work on the roads - the middle of rush
hour?
TM
Dr. Dolittle
> With all due respect, real estate can't be overpriced. An "overpriced"
> market corrects itself. Demand and people with the willingness to either
> spend cash or the ability to borrow are what sets the price.
Oh yes they can. Corrections can happen and people can end up way upside
down with their mortgages. It happened at the end of the 80's, early
90's in California. Fine if you aren't going anywhere and you keep your
job, but if you have to sell for any reason...
> Again, with all due respect, the people who will be "in trouble" are the
> fools who have fallen for the ARM financing scams.
Agreed, that is true all over the country though. The masses with their
McMansions are in way over their heads.
> As home prices rise, so does buyer risk
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/housing/2005-07-27-risk-real-estate-usat_x.htm
Sharply rising home prices are making a risky housing market even
riskier. Six hot markets now face a greater than 50% chance of price
declines the next two years, says a study to be released today by PMI
Mortgage Insurance.
Rapid price escalation has outpaced income gains and rent increases,
making homes less affordable and increasing the odds of a price
correction, PMI found.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/housing/2005-07-27-housing-risk-chart.htm
> Key findings on the likely direction of home prices the next two years:
>
> • The risk of price declines — based on an analysis of prices, employment conditions and affordability — has increased in 36 of the nation's 50 largest housing markets since PMI's last study, released in the spring.
>
> • The number of markets with a 50%-plus chance of a price drop has jumped from two to six.
>
> • There is a 21.3% chance of a nationwide house-price drop, up from 20.2%.
>
> • The highest-risk sites remain in coastal areas, with the biggest odds of falling prices in Boston (55.3% ) and Long Island (Nassau-Suffolk), N.Y. (54.0%). Six of the 10 highest-risk areas are in California.
Charles Tomaras
"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:830906a3536e3a74...@dizum.com...
> Five, stay outta of Chula Vista and National City too many mexicans.
> Acutally this is one of San Diego's biggest flaws - look around and
> watch who are constructing the buildings. Mexicans! What wrong with this
> picture!
The problem with this picture as you have presented it is that it makes you
out to be a bigot. I don't know from which country your people originally
hailed, but Mexican Americans and thier ancestors have been living in the
geographic area now called California for quite a few more generations than
most of the people who call themselves Amercans. Sheesh...it's hard to
believe in this day and age that anyone could write something like you did
without even having a clue as to just how offensive it is.
rbo...@yahoo.com
T Maki wrote:
> With all due respect, real estate can't be overpriced. An "overpriced"
> market corrects itself. Demand and people with the willingness to either
> spend cash or the ability to borrow are what sets the price.
Well not to get hung up on semantics, but I think there are many real
estate markets that are by definition overpriced, meaning they can't
sustain and have a correction, that everyone knows about, coming
momentarily.
Wait a minute. If "an "overpriced" market corrects itself", doesn't
that mean there is such a thing (before it has corrected) ? : )
S Harber
These are the folks behind ideas like the Minutemen who would bitch the
most when a head of lettuce jumps up to $5 a head and their tract home
runs another $200k due to a lack of laborers/illegals.
This is why SD is fine as a location but I find the attitude and
mentality really sucks.
I'd rather throw it in w/ a bunch of immigrants who work hard than most
of the whiney folks who get behind things like the Minutemen and Arnold
without looking 2 months ahead of their noses.
Scott Harber
T Maki
> T Maki wrote:
>
>> With all due respect, real estate can't be overpriced. An "overpriced"
>> market corrects itself. Demand and people with the willingness to
>> either spend cash or the ability to borrow are what sets the price.
>
>
> Oh yes they can. Corrections can happen and people can end up way upside
> down with their mortgages. It happened at the end of the 80's, early
> 90's in California.
Yup. And the deepest cut of all was getting a new tax assessement that
indicated a one-half reduction in value in the properties we owned at
the time.
>
>> As home prices rise, so does buyer risk
Only for buyers at the fringe of risk. Over-spending is over-spending,
whether you're a naive or greedy borrower or a government.
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/housing/2005-07-27-risk-real-estate-usat_x.htm
>
>
> Sharply rising home prices are making a risky housing market even
> riskier. Six hot markets now face a greater than 50% chance of price
> declines the next two years, says a study to be released today by PMI
> Mortgage Insurance.
>
> Rapid price escalation has outpaced income gains and rent increases,
> making homes less affordable and increasing the odds of a price
> correction, PMI found.
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/housing/2005-07-27-housing-risk-chart.htm
>
>
>> Key findings on the likely direction of home prices the next two years:
>>
>> • The risk of price declines — based on an analysis of prices,
>> employment conditions and affordability — has increased in 36 of the
>> nation's 50 largest housing markets since PMI's last study, released
>> in the spring.
>>
>> • The number of markets with a 50%-plus chance of a price drop has
>> jumped from two to six.
>>
>> • There is a 21.3% chance of a nationwide house-price drop, up from
>> 20.2%.
>>
>> • The highest-risk sites remain in coastal areas, with the biggest
>> odds of falling prices in Boston (55.3% ) and Long Island
>> (Nassau-Suffolk), N.Y. (54.0%). Six of the 10 highest-risk areas are
>> in California.
You just described the correction process.
QED
The housing market in California is an auction. In the two years we
looked for another property, we were "outbid" (actually "out-offered" -
same thing) three times. The highest bidder (offer) sets the price. That
is the market at work. When the ability to pay or finance diminishes,
prices follow. Macro-economic forces at play in all this. Lead and lag
in the economic world isn't always easily discernible. But the patterns
are consistent.
The two-year look-ahead isn't of interest to me. I'm planning on being
here 10, 12, 20 years out. By that time, we will have cycled through and
be in another up-turn. We lost half the value in our other properties in
the early 90' down-turn. The closing of Norton Air Force Base
accelerated it for us. My wife says that if another down-turn cycle
happens, she would rather be in a house she likes than one she has to
settle for. Makes sense to me.
TM
T Maki
and lag. Correction and stailization in one happens later in the other.
But you've got a good semantical point...
TM
Dr. Dolittle
I was thinking the same thing. As I first read it, I was wondering how
many hispanics might be reading this group and thinking "what the hell?"
PapaNate
I lived there for 30 something years. I started my career there too. Nothing
much has changed...it's a very tight community, very few people making any kind
of real money.
There is a film commission that is getting about two films a year and several
TV shows into the mix. There are a few commercial type studios of note, and
about a gazillion bottom dollar types.
Voice over work is pretty active, but again much of the work is being done by
smaller low revenue shops. And you have two sports teams, 3 network
affiliates, and two local stations that buy adds. The competition for those is
fierce. Tuesday Productions does some big name work for jingles, VM and things
like that.
There is quite a bit of AV Production work available. A1 day rates are hitting
$400 this year, with a $350 mean average.
The music side of things resides in several locations...and primarily focuses
on two area's: Jazz and Blues. Rock is struggling. Classical appears once in a
while. There is work to be had ( I just did a 8 camera live DVD recording at
the Civic)....but the work is hard to dig up. Sound Image
(which does live audio work) is up in San Marcos...they are often looking for
class A1's.
Recording Studios??? Strate Sound, Studio West, Signature Sound, Audio Wharf
and Cloud Nine are good houses, but there are a myriad of small single
owner/operator cut rate places as well.
The recording industry there is mostly supported by out of town corporate
clients.
Housing cost are as you can imagine..through the roof (pun intended) basic
services are priced like anywhere else, traffic is the worst you can imagine,
and despite what people say about the great enviorment...things like the
Beaches and parks are almost all impacted...and basic services like Cost Co or
Sam's club are also impacted all the time.
Gas is higher, food tends to be lower.
Justin Ulysses Morse
When you have more people buying houses than living in houses, then the
prices will go higher than justified by the true balance of housing
supply vs. housing demand (the demand to own homes for profit is not
the same as the demand for housing). Therefore, pretty much every
market in the US is dramatically overpriced.
ulysses
Ty Ford
Regards,
Ty Ford
Mike Rivers
PapaNate wrote:
> Gas is higher, food tends to be lower.
I'm accustomed to seeing higher gas prices in California than here in
the DC area, but during the last spike, I guess someone wanted to make
an impression on the senators and congressmen here. Gas prices in the
DC area (which probably extends to Baltimore) were the highest in the
nation.
This week, a gallon of regular is running $2.199 at name brand stations
and about two cents less at the off-brands, and the AAA is reminding us
that it's the lowest in five months. .
Manfred Klemme
"Ty Ford" <tyre...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:pPOdnfMdkpQa4hne...@comcast.com...
> So it seems that conditions are not so dissimilar from Baltimore.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>
>
Manfred
Nomen Nescio
>you out to be a bigot. I don't know from which country your people
>originally hailed, but Mexican Americans and thier ancestors have been
>living in the geographic area now called California for quite a few more
>generations than most of the people who call themselves Amercans.
I'm a six foot five black man with ancestors from jamaica! I'm talkin'
bout the illegal one baby.
>Sheesh...it's hard to believe in this day and age that anyone could
>write something like you did without even having a clue as to just how
>offensive it is.
I remember you. You'se the one with back problems?
Neener, neener, neener!
Charles Tomaras
Thanks for the insights into your background and personality. Everyone on
the newsgroup now has a much better idea about just where you are coming
from and a new found commensurate level of respect.
hank alrich
> Charles Tomaras wrote:
> > "Nomen Nescio" wrote...
> >>Five, stay outta of Chula Vista and National City too many mexicans.
> >>Acutally this is one of San Diego's biggest flaws - look around and
> >>watch who are constructing the buildings. Mexicans! What wrong with this
> >>picture!
> > The problem with this picture as you have presented it is that it makes you
> > out to be a bigot. I don't know from which country your people originally
> > hailed, but Mexican Americans and thier ancestors have been living in the
> > geographic area now called California for quite a few more generations than
> > most of the people who call themselves Amercans. Sheesh...it's hard to
> > believe in this day and age that anyone could write something like you did
> > without even having a clue as to just how offensive it is.
> I was thinking the same thing. As I first read it, I was wondering how
> many hispanics might be reading this group and thinking "what the hell?"
Hell, I'm part Mexican and it might be the best part.
Suppose Nomen Mentalesco hasn't noticed that most of the towns he
considers white territory have spanish names?
--
ha
Ty Ford
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> "Ty Ford" <tyre...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> So it seems that conditions are not so dissimilar from Baltimore.
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>> Regards,
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>> Ty Ford
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> Except the K-Tek factory is in North County, San Diego
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> Manfred
Ah that's a plus! Well Manfred, that means you and I would be hanging out a
lot.
Regards,
Ty
Noah Timan
> What is with the California thing with using the word "the" in front of
> highway numbers, the I-5, the 405, etc?
Other than the ubiquitous "the 5" which tends to get regarded as such
from Tijuana to Vancouver, that's actually not a California thing but a
SOUTHERN California thing -- up north you still get on 101 as opposed
to "the 101".
nvt
Charles Tomaras
"Noah Timan" <this_i...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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We DON'T say THE in Washington State or in Oregon. It's just I-5 up here.
Also I-90, Hwy 405 etc.
Charlie
Seattle, WA
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<ulysse...@rollmusic.com> schreef:
>Therefore, pretty much every
>market in the US is dramatically overpriced.
And that will only get worse when the dollar will make it's free fall.
And that's not if, but when.
The US debts are growing so fast in the last 3 years, that China , who
keeps buying the US State bonds, almost owns the US.
Basically foreign country's today are financing the US consumers, so
these US consumers buy the stuff these foreign country's produce..
Clever, but when the own local markets grow, ( and that can take some
time ) there is no need to finance the US consumer anymore.
R
PapaNate
> I'm accustomed to seeing higher gas prices in California than here in
> the DC area, but during the last spike, I guess someone wanted to make
> an impression on the senators and congressmen here. Gas prices in the
> DC area (which probably extends to Baltimore) were the highest in the
> nation.
Actually the Oil executives are now trying to re-direct the intense anger
the nation has at being told we have shortages while at the same time
profits rose over 2000%. After that spike and the greedy profits derived
from it, and then a congressional investigation on the horizon...they
decided to drop the rates.
I also figure that with Christmas coming...and with the extensive travel
done during this time...I guessed they deemed it wise to bottom dollar gas
prices so people wouldn't revolt...like they were about to during Katrina.
PapaNate
> So it seems that conditions are not so dissimilar from Baltimore.
In basics yes it is. The DC/Baltimore corridor has always reminded me of San
Diego.
IMO one of the differences is that Service levels in San Diego are to much
higher standards than Baltimore has ever been.
I have very bad experiences with the Local 487 staff in Baltimore. Where as in
San Diego the Local 122 is staffed with some really good people along with the
requisite box pusher types. I also think the Booking Agent understands
business, and will work with companies.
jwill...@audioupgrades.com
break would be a good time, maybe time it with the Namm show in
January, it's only 50 miles up the coast from here. Don't evaluate this
area in summer, cause it's nice everywhere then and this place is
loaded with tourists mainly from LA.
Somehow, sitting on the beach in January while all your buddies are
freezing their tails off is the ultimate decision making venue.
Gotta go, surfs up, local snow in the mountains and the desert is
calling again.... Damm, it's another 70 degree day here!
Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades