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John Williamson

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May 12, 2008, 8:47:03 AM5/12/08
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ghar wrote:
> Watch Memorable Movies:
>
> http://www.movieswatch.co.nr
>

".co.nr is not an official hierarchy"

.nr DNS services do not list .co.nr as a sub domain, either

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jean-daniel dodin

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May 12, 2008, 10:47:48 AM5/12/08
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John Williamson wrote:
> ghar wrote:
>> Watch Memorable Movies:
>>
>> http://www.movieswatch.co.nr
>>
>
> ".co.nr is not an official hierarchy"
>
> .nr DNS services do not list .co.nr as a sub domain, either
>
works for me

jdd

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John Williamson

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May 12, 2008, 11:11:20 AM5/12/08
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jean-daniel dodin wrote:
> John Williamson wrote:
>> ghar wrote:
>>> Watch Memorable Movies:
>>>
>>> http://www.movieswatch.co.nr
>>>
>>
>> ".co.nr is not an official hierarchy"
>>
>> .nr DNS services do not list .co.nr as a sub domain, either
>>
> works for me
>
Oh, it *works*. It's just not apparently registered as a domain with
IANA or on the contact details for the .nr TLD. So, I'd be *very*
careful about connecting to it if there was anything critical on the
computer I used to connect with. Especially as it's offering valuable
services for free.

From the Mozilla Wiki list of TLDs:-
"co.nr is not a official TLD, but acts like one"

http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/nr.html

is the IANA page relating to Nauru.

Maybe I'm paranoid. Maybe it's a malware infested site. I'd rather I
didn't find out the hard way, especially as I didn't recognise the TLD,
which is apparently assigned to a small island (Nauru).

I shall now run all my malware detecting programs, if you don't mind.

jean-daniel dodin

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May 12, 2008, 11:26:05 AM5/12/08
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John Williamson wrote:

> I shall now run all my malware detecting programs, if you don't mind.
>

I'm running firefox on Linux, so no fear for me. I just wonder how a
nonexistent tld can be routed by the usual net, but we see so many
things...

anyway, the post looks like spam and I only looked at it after your
announce :-)

John Williamson

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May 12, 2008, 11:36:32 AM5/12/08
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jean-daniel dodin wrote:
> John Williamson wrote:
>
>> I shall now run all my malware detecting programs, if you don't mind.
>>
> I'm running firefox on Linux, so no fear for me. I just wonder how a
> nonexistent tld can be routed by the usual net, but we see so many
> things...
>
> anyway, the post looks like spam and I only looked at it after your
> announce :-)
>
> jdd
>
Checking further, you can register a .nr site for 500 Australian
dollars, & if your site name is xxxxx.co, that'd look like .co.nr.

It's definitely spam, I was just worried whether it's clean spam or
dirty spam.

The island's not much to look at on Google Earth either, it seems to
make its living selling Phosphate, AKA guano, AKA bird droppings.

Now, back to the normal service....

Can I use a Zoom H2 for wildtrack FX recordings? ;-)

jean-daniel dodin

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May 12, 2008, 11:51:18 AM5/12/08
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John Williamson wrote:

> Can I use a Zoom H2 for wildtrack FX recordings? ;-)

why not :-)

I only have problems with the finger scratch noise and the need to
press a button twice to get the record run :-)

jdd
(NB: and why no sd device use the same folder layout! palm, phone,
zoom, any device need it's own folders on the card, so one can't use
same card from one device to the other!)

John Williamson

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May 12, 2008, 12:11:00 PM5/12/08
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jean-daniel dodin wrote:
> John Williamson wrote:
>
>> Can I use a Zoom H2 for wildtrack FX recordings? ;-)
>
> why not :-)
>
> I only have problems with the finger scratch noise and the need to press
> a button twice to get the record run :-)
>
I don't get much trouble with handling noise. Having to press the button
to put it into record standby, then again to record *does* make it
harder to get a false start. The 2 second prerecord buffer's very useful
though. :-)

> jdd
> (NB: and why no sd device use the same folder layout! palm, phone, zoom,
> any device need it's own folders on the card, so one can't use same card
> from one device to the other!)
>

To make sure that you format the card in the unit you're going to use it
in, so you're pretty sure the card's a good one & compatible with the
unit it's in.

jean-daniel dodin

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May 12, 2008, 12:22:26 PM5/12/08
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John Williamson wrote:

> I don't get much trouble with handling noise. Having to press the button
> to put it into record standby, then again to record *does* make it
> harder to get a false start.

well my old sony recorder had only one button press so from time to
time I lose a take... lmy fault

The 2 second prerecord buffer's very useful
> though. :-)

very impressive, I like also the 3 ticks before starting the record :-)

> To make sure that you format the card in the unit you're going to use it
> in, so you're pretty sure the card's a good one & compatible with the
> unit it's in.

insane in our days... and so we need a lot of card, whit very little
room to write more than a number on them...

John Williamson

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May 12, 2008, 12:38:06 PM5/12/08
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jean-daniel dodin wrote:
> John Williamson wrote:
>
>> I don't get much trouble with handling noise. Having to press the button
>> to put it into record standby, then again to record *does* make it
>> harder to get a false start.
>
> well my old sony recorder had only one button press so from time to time
> I lose a take... lmy fault
>
I have set the permanent microphone monitor in the headphones to "off"
using the menu, then I press the record button, verify there's
reasonable quality sound, then start recording when I'm ready.

> The 2 second prerecord buffer's very useful
>> though. :-)
>
> very impressive, I like also the 3 ticks before starting the record :-)
>

It's a handy device, no doubt about it.

>> To make sure that you format the card in the unit you're going to use it
>> in, so you're pretty sure the card's a good one & compatible with the
>> unit it's in.
>
> insane in our days... and so we need a lot of card, whit very little
> room to write more than a number on them...
>

It's either that or take a chance on whether that particular card will
work with that particular unit without accidentally overwriting old
data. Better safe than sorry, in my opinion. Formatting a card before
use, which is a deliberate action, takes a few seconds, as against
losing previously written data that you really wanted to keep. That can
take *hours* to rectify, even if it's possible, as my impressive
collection of flash memory recovery programs will testify.

jean-daniel dodin

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May 12, 2008, 1:22:45 PM5/12/08
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John Williamson wrote:

> It's either that or take a chance on whether that particular card will
> work with that particular unit without accidentally overwriting old
> data.

nowaday *all* units can read fat32... and I *never* format a card,
most of the time the card size is must greater than necessary, and I
keep the old file on it as a backup. I only remove them if room lacks.

> take *hours* to rectify, even if it's possible, as my impressive
> collection of flash memory recovery programs will testify.
>

card are identical to hard drives, now. I use Linux, and deleted *is*
deleted. so I'm used to don't do so inadvertently :-) (and make bacukps)

John Williamson

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May 12, 2008, 1:47:29 PM5/12/08
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jean-daniel dodin wrote:
> John Williamson wrote:
>
>> It's either that or take a chance on whether that particular card will
>> work with that particular unit without accidentally overwriting old
>> data.
>
> nowaday *all* units can read fat32... and I *never* format a card, most
> of the time the card size is must greater than necessary, and I keep the
> old file on it as a backup. I only remove them if room lacks.
>
Not true. None of my cameras will. Neither of my phones will. Nor will
ths SD card reader built into my laptop, which will only read FAT16.
All of my units that use SD card format the file system as readable
under FAT, but they need a particular directory structure to work. Bad
or lazy programming? Or just a way to make sure that they "Just work"
for most users?

>> take *hours* to rectify, even if it's possible, as my impressive
>> collection of flash memory recovery programs will testify.
>>
> card are identical to hard drives, now. I use Linux, and deleted *is*
> deleted. so I'm used to don't do so inadvertently :-) (and make bacukps)
>

It's done by the unit firmware, which doesn't always check for existing
files. Bad programming, but it happens. At least FAT filesystemscan
usually be recovered.
As for the cards being big enough, I nearly filled a 4 Gigabyte SD card
in one recording session with the H2 a while ago. Not that unusual for
me when I'm recording background for later use. Just turn it on & let it
run at 24 bit, 96KHz, surround mode. The H2 comes with a 512Mb card, as
you know. Full in 45 minutes or so, if you're recording CD quality stereo.

By the way, I don't use Linux due to hardware problems, but:-

http://std.dkuug.dk/keld/readme-salvage.html

For ext2 & ext3 filesystems.

jean-daniel dodin

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May 12, 2008, 2:18:42 PM5/12/08
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John Williamson wrote:

> Not true. None of my cameras will. Neither of my phones will. Nor will
> ths SD card reader built into my laptop, which will only read FAT16.

I doubt that

> All of my units that use SD card format the file system as readable
> under FAT, but they need a particular directory structure to work. Bad
> or lazy programming? Or just a way to make sure that they "Just work"
> for most users?

it's precisely this fact I find astounding. All card are fat32 (I
pretty sure, yours are, certainly if they are 1Gb or more-I use none
smaller :-), but many device systems can't read them if they don't
have just the folders they need. This is simply stupid on our days...

> files. Bad programming, but it happens.

extremely lazy programming. users should shout against this :-!

> As for the cards being big enough, I nearly filled a 4 Gigabyte SD card
> in one recording session with the H2 a while ago. Not that unusual for
> me when I'm recording background for later use. Just turn it on & let it
> run at 24 bit, 96KHz, surround mode. The H2 comes with a 512Mb card, as
> you know. Full in 45 minutes or so, if you're recording CD quality stereo.

I know, I don't even remember where this card is... and I most buy for
1gb micro cards, compatible with my phone & any other stuff and nearly
similar price now.

>
> By the way, I don't use Linux due to hardware problems, but:-
>
> http://std.dkuug.dk/keld/readme-salvage.html
>
> For ext2 & ext3 filesystems.
>

I know, very bad idea. one should be used to never use a trash can.
deleting a file should be unrecoverable. Some time you *have* to
delete files.

some years ago I was given for experiment a computer previously owned
by a secretary of my company. If I had published the list of porno
files I found on it, she wouls have died of shame :-))) and I just
have a Jazz disk full of games forgotten by god only knows who :-))

John Williamson

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May 12, 2008, 3:42:19 PM5/12/08
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jean-daniel dodin wrote:
> John Williamson wrote:
>
>> Not true. None of my cameras will. Neither of my phones will. Nor will
>> ths SD card reader built into my laptop, which will only read FAT16.
>
> I doubt that
>
Doubt away, I've proved it by trying it. Under Windows XP, at least. One
external reader I've tried will read cards over 2Gig, & that talks both
FAT16 and FAT32.

>> All of my units that use SD card format the file system as readable
>> under FAT, but they need a particular directory structure to work. Bad
>> or lazy programming? Or just a way to make sure that they "Just work"
>> for most users?
>
> it's precisely this fact I find astounding. All card are fat32 (I pretty
> sure, yours are, certainly if they are 1Gb or more-I use none smaller
> :-), but many device systems can't read them if they don't have just the
> folders they need. This is simply stupid on our days...
>

All the ones over 2Gig have to be. The ones 2Gig or under that I use are
all FAT16.
According to my recovery programs & the data sheets of the devices, anyway.

>> files. Bad programming, but it happens.
>
> extremely lazy programming. users should shout against this :-!
>

Why? I use, as do many other people that I know, a card for each camera,
a card for the H2 & a card for each phone, all readable from & writeable
to on the laptop. I have a couple of spare blank cards I carry round, &
it takes seconds to format a spare card to use in whatever I need it
for. If that card is deliberately not easily usable in another device,
the possibility of errors is reduced in daily use, especially for users
who aren't happy with computers, or have more important things on their
mind than how the data is written to storage.

However, if you format a card in, say, a Fuji camera, it can be used in
some other cameras, they just make the directories they need. Exceptions
do exist, but they're there to tie the user in to that maker's system.
I had some grief with an Olympus camera (XD card) last year over this.
You have to use the camera with the maker's driver & cable to access the
card. XD cards from a Fuji camera are accessible via a normal reader
under FAT.

Windows based PDAs I've used all use FAT16, Zoom H2 uses FAT16 or 32
according to size, with a required directory structure. Once the card's
been formatted in the H2, though, music files can be added to the
existing directories & played back.

>> As for the cards being big enough, I nearly filled a 4 Gigabyte SD card
>> in one recording session with the H2 a while ago. Not that unusual for
>> me when I'm recording background for later use. Just turn it on & let it
>> run at 24 bit, 96KHz, surround mode. The H2 comes with a 512Mb card, as
>> you know. Full in 45 minutes or so, if you're recording CD quality
>> stereo.
>
> I know, I don't even remember where this card is... and I most buy for
> 1gb micro cards, compatible with my phone & any other stuff and nearly
> similar price now.
>

Mine's in the box for use when I upgrade the firmware. I usually buy
2Gig SD cards for my devices, as they work, they're reasonably
physically robust & they're cheap per Megabyte.

>>
>> By the way, I don't use Linux due to hardware problems, but:-
>>
>> http://std.dkuug.dk/keld/readme-salvage.html
>>
>> For ext2 & ext3 filesystems.
>>
> I know, very bad idea. one should be used to never use a trash can.
> deleting a file should be unrecoverable. Some time you *have* to delete
> files.
>

If a user hits the wrong button, it's handy to be able to recover the
file. I had to recover a complete hard drive for someone who did just
that recently. If a file needs deleting completely, then there are tools
for that.
When I dispose of a machine, I either use a proper disk cleaning
program, or physically smash the HD.

> some years ago I was given for experiment a computer previously owned by
> a secretary of my company. If I had published the list of porno files I
> found on it, she wouls have died of shame :-))) and I just have a Jazz
> disk full of games forgotten by god only knows who :-))
>

It wasn't one of mine, obviously. ;-)
If a machine leaves my posssession, it's as clean as I can make it, with
a freshly installed OS.

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John Williamson

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May 13, 2008, 3:14:18 AM5/13/08
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ghar wrote:
>
>
> The link http://www.movieswatch.co.nr is not spamming John
>
> best regards,
>
>
A post not terribly relevant to a movie sound recording group,
apparently using a strange TLD not officially listed as valid, promoting
a service letting people watch copyrighted material for free, (unless
you're selling advertising on the site). Seems at least vaguely spamlike
to me.

<Shrug>
I'll turn down the opportunity, thanks.

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