cheapest reasonable good micpre with a/d?

[Jukka Andersson]

Is M-Audio DUO only reasonable priced mic pre with A/D converter cabable of
24bit / 96KHz
or should I look for other possibilities,

Micpre with Limiter and 48KHz @ 20bit cabable A/D would be good enought for
my needs.

.jukka

[yo]

I use a duo with my laptop as a portable SFX rig. I got a battery kit from
a company called core-audio. It seems to work pretty good. I also use it
in stand alone mode to feed a portable dat. With the battery pack there is
a very very slight self noise thats pretty negligible (from the dc-ac
conversion of the pack). But when running of ac from the wall its very
clean.

Larry Peacock

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take a look at the AD20 from Denecke/Zefiro. 20bit, battery operated, s/pdif out on coax and optic.
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[Jukka Andersson]

> take a look at the AD20 from Denecke/Zefiro. 20bit, battery operated,
s/pdif out on coax and optic.
> f
> *

Hmm.. Isnt it 44KHz only? and does not have limiter and no phantom

.jukka

[Bob Martin]

what about the edirol ua-5?

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[Jukka Andersson]

does it work as a standalone micpre + A/D converter?

.jukka
"Bob Martin" <bobm...@americom.spamnet> wrote in message
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[BrunoSound]

A Sound Devices USBPre would do it if you're recording to USB-equipped device.

Bruno

Bruno Strapko CAS
Strapko Recorders
Schaumburg IL

[Jukka Andersson]

Need also to work it as a standalone for Nomad Jukebox3 and DAT

.jukka

"BrunoSound" <bruno...@aol.com> wrote in message
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[yo]

No, The edirol will not work stand alone.

you can have the guys at denecke make the ad20 work at 48k. I am going to
have it done to mine. The only thing that I don't like about the ad20 is no
phantom power.

Larry Peacock

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[David]

What about the Apogee Mini-ME?
http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/prod_minime.html

[Jukka Andersson]

> What about the Apogee Mini-ME?
> http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/prod_minime.html

way too expensive. otherwise awesome...

.jukka

[Erick del Valle]

"yo" <lpea...@inreach.com> wrote in message news:<WXqt9.574$K64.25...@news.inreach.com>...

> No, The edirol will not work stand alone.
>
> you can have the guys at denecke make the ad20 work at 48k. I am going to
> have it done to mine. The only thing that I don't like about the ad20 is no
> phantom power.
>
> Larry Peacock
>
>
>
> "Jukka Andersson" <ju...@rihmasto.com> wrote in message
> news:Niht9.487$zr4....@read2.inet.fi...
> > does it work as a standalone micpre + A/D converter?
> >
> > .jukka
> > "Bob Martin" <bobm...@americom.spamnet> wrote in message
> > news:urb7kss...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > what about the edirol ua-5?
> > >

Jukka, I agree with Larry, actually I'm using a decode ad20
48K/20bits. For 48V You can use a mixpre, mp2, wendt x2 or the mixer
that You use actually. I use my pscx4.

Larry, Edirol works stand alone, it use 9V x 450mA, You can do the
battery for it... Talk with Len Moskowitz at Core-sound, or check
their web pages (he sells modified ad20, duo, edirol for portable use)

http://www.core-sound.com

Erick

[yo]

I thought the edirol would not act as a stand alone converter. I thought it
works only as a USB device. I could be wrong.

Lp.

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[Erick del Valle]

"yo" <lpea...@inreach.com> wrote in message news:<97Lt9.617$r87.26...@news.inreach.com>...

> I thought the edirol would not act as a stand alone converter. I thought it
> works only as a USB device. I could be wrong.
>
> Lp.

ok, ok, ok I'm wrong.
In the core-sound site:

The UA-5 does not have a standalone mode. When not connected to a
computer via USB, it will only act as a mic pre-amp (analog in and
analog out only) and will not provide A-to-D or sample rate converter
functions (no S/PDIF output unless connected to a computer).

Erick

[Marty Atias]

Jukka,

Are you sure the Nomad will record in real time? After looking at the sales
info, I think it is expecting a complete file for transfer.

Marty Atias

[Kurt Albershardt]

Marty Atias wrote:
>
> Are you sure the Nomad will record in real time?

Yes. It has both analog line level and digital (mini optical) inputs.

[Jukka Andersson]

Yes, it does record realtime.
I really am between this Nomad and DAT.
I guess getting Nomad would mean a big modification
to it. Perhaps some sort of case over it to make it quieter and
easier to carry and better contacts since I really do hate 3.5mm minijacks.

But if someone does sell me a TASCAM DA-P1 in good shape and low price
I am on it.

.jukka

"Kurt Albershardt" <ku...@nv.net> wrote in message
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[Jim Feeley]

In article <3DB9CBC4...@ATSComms.com>, Marty Atias
<Ma...@ATSComms.com> wrote:

> Jukka,
>
> Are you sure the Nomad will record in real time? After looking at the sales
> info, I think it is expecting a complete file for transfer.

Looks like it, mostly. Check out these posts by/to Jay Massengill on
the CAS site:

http://www.ideabuzz.com/cas/webboard/index.php3?topic_id=5099

http://www.ideabuzz.com/cas/webboard/index.php3?topic_id=5127

http://www.ideabuzz.com/cas/webboard/index.php3?topic_id=5128

Jim

[Marty Atias]

Could this be a contender for a transcription recorder replacement? How much is
the Nomad going for out there?

Marty Atias

[Kurt Albershardt]

Marty Atias wrote:
> Could this be a contender for a transcription recorder replacement?

Possibly. No direct TC support but PCM would be able to handle it far
better than the codec-based systems. Not sure about the builtin A/D
quality (specifically crosstalk WRT timecode bleed) but that should be
easy to verify.

The real question is how do you get the transcription houses to play it
back?

> How much is the Nomad going for out there?

Under $350 for the 20gb version. $450-500 for the 40gb one.

[Fernando]

If you record TC on one channel at between -12 and -18 dBfs, you can
play it back with just a cable adapter and may be some gain or
attenuation. I did this for playback, sending TC to the slate. Feeding
other machines with an XLR3f TC input is not very different. To be
shure, you can use a Sescom (or other brand) cable adaptor to match
level and impedance, and I think it will work.
f
*

[Erick del Valle]

"yo" <lpea...@inreach.com> wrote in message news:<WXqt9.574$K64.25...@news.inreach.com>...

> No, The edirol will not work stand alone.
>
> you can have the guys at denecke make the ad20 work at 48k. I am going to
> have it done to mine. The only thing that I don't like about the ad20 is no
> phantom power.
>
> Larry Peacock
>

from the oade bros site:

The first mod enables the digital coax and optical outputs for stand
alone operation without a computer. It can also be used with a
computer to output data simultaneously to a both coax and optical
digital connectors, in addition to your computer ! The mod disables
the digital output from a computer to the UA5 via the USB port, so you
cannot send data from the computer to the UA5 on the USB buss. This
does not affect your ability to record with it, only your ability to
send data from your hard drive to the UA5 via USB.

Well, with that modification will work stand alone.

Erick