DPA 4017 or Schoeps CMIT5U
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Marc Wielage
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> looking to make a purchase this week. any recommendations?
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Good review on the DPA 4017 here:
http://www.proaudioreview.com/pages/s.0033/t.11679.html
Me personally, before I spend $2000 on a microphone that I've never used
before, I'd go out and rent or borrow one for a weekend and see how well it
holds up in the real world.
--MFW
audi...@bellsouth.net
> On Sep 7, 6:00 pm, "rezama...@gmail.com" <rezama...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > looking to make a purchase this week. any recommendations?
>
You can't go wrong with a Sanken CS3e.
Eric
Noah Timan
> > neither. they both love RFi
>
> You can't go wrong with a Sanken CS3e.
The Sanken loves RFI just as much as the other two, and to my ear,
doesn't sound as pretty as either. It is a bit more versatile,
though.
Brian Shennan Sound Ltd
comparing these two mics and there wasn't much
in it.
I didn't like the bass cut very much on the DPA,
better on the CMIT.
Both nice clean sounding mics.
As I already own a CMIT, I don't see the need
for another similar short shotgun.
I did a doco last year and used the CMIT on all
but one of the interviews where I used an MK41 for
a double header.
The rerecording mixer asked me what mic I had used
and told him about the CMIT and asked why he
wanted to know.He said that he didn't need to make
any adjustments to the sound, which usually he does with
most mics.
This coming from a double oscar winning mixer was
a nice confirmation of my choice of mic.
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Zapbranagan
> looking to make a purchase this week. any recommendations?
All I have to say is I love my DPA 4017.
wre...@gmail.com
Also what other mics do you own?
Zapbranagan
I also have a MKH 70 and MKH 416. But I just got the 416 and haven't
used it yet. I'm working on a show right now as a sound assistant and
the mixer uses Schoeps. They sound great, I love them too. But I'm
new to owning gear, since I just got mine this year. To be honest I
can't pick out the differences as well as the old pros on here. Still
training my ears. I don't think you can go wrong with either. One
reason I went with the DPA is in my city there are not alot of sound
guys here and I wanted to have a different sound. Most guys around
here use the 416 or Neuman's. Hope this helps.
Fernando
coloration of each mic, here are their sensitivity specs:
MKH60 40mV/Pa
CS3e 40mV/Pa
4017 30mV/Pa
CMIT 17mV/Pa
The CMIT it's just slightly more sensitive than a 41, plus the
interference tube.
It's sound may be the most pleasant but I miss a bit more sensitivity
to increase reach (wich is a complex factor...) and decrease system
noise while recording
Boomboom
The CMIT's my preffered one for sound quality. Yes, less sensitive
(trimming is higher) but its sound is amazing (tight, compact,
dynamic, I don't know how to find the right word but try it for a few
days and you'll know).
The CS-3e sure is a must in traffic or other unfriendly environments.
Sonds very good, but has proven sensitive to ballasts and transformers
while on the streets or in front of stores, etc... Very versatile as
been said above. For animal documentary: a *real must*... ( proximity
effect of this mic has been taken care of so you still got "equal
sound" at distance)
The KMR81i is now for me what the 416 is for others: the trouble-
savior (read above - CS3e & ballasts). Essentially stays in the case
nowadays. Sounds really good but since I got the CMIT... ; )
glen...@comcast.net
It is interesting to learn other mixers/recordists
preferences, and selection process.
I own a CS-3, 416, MKH-50, 60, 70.
I have loved them each for their merits and at one
time or another, been frustrated by a (mild) shortcoming.
I have often wished Sanken made a long shotgun version of
the CS-3 but realize the capsule array technology that makes
that mic so special may not apply to a long gun.
The MKH-60 is the only one I ever sold (years ago) and at
one time or another, wish I still had. I just wasn't using it much.
I cut my teeth using Scoeps back in the early to mid 90's
and found them too frustrating with all the humidity and RFi issues
so I never really pursued owning them once I found reliable
mics that I liked (MKH series). Again, this was some time ago and I
understand that many of these issues have been resovled in
the newer generations.
Glen P.
in...@soundfacility.com
> looking to make a purchase this week. any recommendations?
I can't speak for the CMIT.
The DPA 4017 is quite a nice mic. After having used Schoeps MK41 for
several years, I switched to a 4017 almost exclusively.
The pros:
-It does EXTREMELY well in humidity. Schoeps craps out, and even
Sennheiser MKH mics suffer a from higher noise floor in humid
conditions.
-Higher sensitivity and output, and better "reach".
-Quite reasonable working indoors with it (not too much echo, as with
some shotguns)
The cons:
-not as "warm" (smooth freq response) as a Schoeps 41 when you get
into close-ups
Between the CMIT and DPA, you're probably in pretty safe waters going
for either one. After mixed reports re: humidity for the CMIT, I did
some testing with the DPA and was very pleased.
Ditto Marc W's advice to rent them both or take them on spec from the
shop to listen and use for a few days.
Brian
scottcl...@gmail.com
> looking to make a purchase this week. any recommendations?
My considerations are..
MKH416 $999
DPA4017b $1700
CMIT5u $2100
I am new to audio and building my kit. I work mostly in sports where we have the clump of 6-12 camera crews all trying to ask questions to the same player.
My gut is telling me to favor the MKH416 over the MKH60 because they sound the same. If I want the on board filter then I would jump to the DPA over the MKH60.
Which brings me to my dilemma, if I'm using a Sound Device 502 mixer... do I really care about on board filters, and if so should I go DPA4017b or CMIT5u