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David Johnston

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:59:18 PM11/24/09
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Apparently Hitchcock liked his remake better, but Doris Day spoiled it
for me. I liked the mom from the first one better. And she got to
shoot one of the bad guys at the end.

william

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:04:23 PM11/24/09
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The re-make of The Man Who Knew Too Much is annoying dreck and how
anyone would sit through it twice needs some serious drug therapy.
It's a terrible film.

William
www.williamahearn.com

El Klauso

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:04:31 PM11/24/09
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W: The re-make of The Man Who Knew Too Much is annoying dreck and how

anyone would sit through it twice needs some serious drug therapy.
It's a terrible film.

EK: Well, I wouldn't quite go that far.0
It has elegant visuals, but a really tubby script.
DD was admittedly annoying enough to make drugging her an act of mercy
for the audience.


Dave in Toronto

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:36:15 PM11/24/09
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Agreed, and I don't think Hitchcock really thought his re-make was
better - Hitch always had his eye on the bottom line and he was hardly
going to say "Sorry folks but I did it better the first time."

Dave in Toronto

william

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:59:48 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 6:04 pm, El Klauso <ChasJKl...@aol.com> wrote:

>  It has elegant visuals

It does? Where? In the piss poor rear projections? It's a garbage
film. Rotten putrid nothings re-raked for what? I'm sick of Hitchcock
apologists making excuses for this dreck. It's a nothing film with
nothing going for it. Not smarts, not intelligence, not suspense. It's
a terrible film.

William
www.williamahearn.com

Bill Anderson

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:07:20 PM11/24/09
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Yeah, well, que sera, sera.

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Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

william

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:23:18 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 11:07 pm, Bill Anderson <billanderson...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Yeah, well, que sera, sera.
>
And that is the extent of the defense. And also the source of the
annoyance. Doris Day totally sucks in this film. Out of her league and
out of her audience. There is nothing in this film that is valuable in
any context or in any currency. It is Hitchcock at his worst -- save
the silliness of Marne -- and there is no defense. None. It's a bad,
bad, bad, bad, world that Hitchcock presented and only the die hards
buy into it.

William
www.williamahearn.com

TT

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:19:57 AM11/25/09
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Oh, it's the one with THAT tune. Then it CAN'T be very good?

El Klauso

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:07:15 AM11/25/09
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CK:  It has elegant visuals

W: It does? Where? In the piss poor rear projections? It's a garbage


film. Rotten putrid nothings re-raked for what? I'm sick of Hitchcock
apologists making excuses for this dreck. It's a nothing film with
nothing going for it. Not smarts, not intelligence, not suspense. It's
a terrible film.

CK: Your calm, evenhanded spirit of civil open discussion is really
admirable. Anyone who doesn't agree with you is automatically a
Hitchcock apologist, and deemed an advocate of poor rear screen work.
Any further badinage with you would be a waste of words...

Bill Anderson

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:47:56 AM11/25/09
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Check with William. He seems to be the one around here most invested in
The Man Who Knew Too Much.

Howard Brazee

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:09:24 AM11/25/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:23:18 -0800 (PST), william <wlah...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> Yeah, well, que sera, sera.
>>
>And that is the extent of the defense. And also the source of the
>annoyance. Doris Day totally sucks in this film. Out of her league and
>out of her audience. There is nothing in this film that is valuable in
>any context or in any currency. It is Hitchcock at his worst -- save
>the silliness of Marne -- and there is no defense. None. It's a bad,
>bad, bad, bad, world that Hitchcock presented and only the die hards
>buy into it.

But the song won an Oscar.

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"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

william

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:31:47 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 1:07 am, El Klauso <ChasJKl...@aol.com> wrote:
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> CK: Your calm, evenhanded spirit of civil open discussion is really
> admirable. Anyone who doesn't agree with you is automatically a
> Hitchcock apologist, and deemed an advocate of poor rear screen work.
> Any further badinage with you would be a waste of words...

And your response is as silly as you think mine is. So don't waste
your words as I think or I'm pretty sure I'll get to sleep either
way.

William
www.williamahearn.com

william

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:36:57 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 11:09 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
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> But the song won an Oscar.
>
Not the version that Doris Day screams off at the end of the movie,
that's for sure. The whole scene is trivial, annoying and silly. Some
people apparently disagree. Nothing I can do about that . . .

William
www.williamahearn.com

quote...@yahoo.com

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:18:33 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 24, 10:23 pm, william <wlahe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is nothing in this film that is valuable in
> any context or in any currency.

No love for Bernard Herrmann's prelude? Or his cameo? Or his version
of "Storm Cloud Cantata"?

william

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:25:03 PM11/25/09
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They can exist outside the film. In this case, I think Hermann's
talents were wasted on material that didn't merit them.

William
www.williamahearn.com

Endymion9

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:26:51 PM11/25/09
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I tried but just never could get interested in either version. The story
just doesn't grab me.

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william

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:57:37 PM11/27/09
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On Nov 25, 7:47 am, Bill Anderson <billanderson...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Check with William.  He seems to be the one around here most invested in
> The Man Who Knew Too Much.
>
Your sarcasm -- if that's what it was -- was right on the money. Some
films just totally set me off when they're discussed seriously or as
"serious" works. Granted, this is my problem although I'm willing to
bet most people in this group feel the same way about some film and
pass on venting because they are a better person than I am or at least
more restrained or more polite. It's no secret that I find Hitchcock
overrated. Even so, he made some films that flat-out stink to high
heaven and the re-make of "The Man Who Knew Too Much" is one of them.
There seems to be a gimme when it comes to Hitchcock. His reputation
is such that whatever he touched is worthy merely by the act of being
touched by Hitchcock. So, sometimes I over react -- in language, not
in substance -- and I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone. All I
really meant to say is that the re-make of "The Man Who Know Too Much"
is a second-rate hack job that amounts to no more than fan meat.

I feel better now.

William
www.williamahearn.com

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