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MTroy1

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Jun 13, 2001, 10:47:14 PM6/13/01
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I just saw this today and man did it suck. The music, acting, plot, were all
awful. I'm a big fan of the Coen Brothers, but this wasn't one of their best
efforts. Very boring also, especially the beginning.

John Reilly

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Jun 14, 2001, 7:41:30 AM6/14/01
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I enjoyed the film very much; the music was great, the acting was excellent
and the plot a playful variation on a much older one. I certainly wasn't
bored by it either.

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trickster

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Jun 14, 2001, 11:54:44 AM6/14/01
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mtr...@aol.com (MTroy1) wrote in message news:<20010613224714...@ng-fj1.aol.com>...

> I just saw this today and man did it suck. The music, acting, plot, were all
> awful. I'm a big fan of the Coen Brothers, but this wasn't one of their best
> efforts. Very boring also, especially the beginning.

The music was the best thing, but I do have to say the story was kinda
flat and the humor was not there for me. I know the Coens have big
fans around here.
I can't find the soundtrack at Borders.

W. Lydecker

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Jun 14, 2001, 1:30:59 PM6/14/01
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That's ol' Ralph Stanley singing "Oh Death". The Foggy Bottom Boys
sing a song Ralph and Carter made a hit quite a few years back.
Anyone hear the Jim Walters radio show?

Steve Oldham

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Jun 14, 2001, 4:39:06 PM6/14/01
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It was the most fun I've had at the movies in years.


Steve

Marc

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Jun 15, 2001, 7:51:32 PM6/15/01
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I'm half way thorugh it and had lots of interuptions while I was watching.
But it seems interesting so far.
But I could see how some one would find the "wide eyed" acting style that
the three main cahracters bothersome. It bothers me a bit. But I'm not
sure that there isn't something "right" about it.

I dont know what else to call it but "wide eyed". But it must have been
very hard for Clooney, Torturo and the other guy to keep doing that all
through the movie. Oh Torturo's "cusine" does it in the third scene too.
But the rest of the actors don't.

Why do they call Robert Johnson, "Tom Johnson" in the movie?

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John Harkness

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Jun 15, 2001, 8:14:47 PM6/15/01
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:51:32 -0700, "Marc" <marc...@obongo.com>
wrote:

>I'm half way thorugh it and had lots of interuptions while I was watching.
>But it seems interesting so far.
>But I could see how some one would find the "wide eyed" acting style that
>the three main cahracters bothersome. It bothers me a bit. But I'm not
>sure that there isn't something "right" about it.
>
>I dont know what else to call it but "wide eyed". But it must have been
>very hard for Clooney, Torturo and the other guy to keep doing that all
>through the movie. Oh Torturo's "cusine" does it in the third scene too.
>But the rest of the actors don't.
>
>Why do they call Robert Johnson, "Tom Johnson" in the movie?
>

Because he isn't necessarily Robert Johnson.

He could very well be Tommy Johnson, who hung out with Charlie Patton
and Son House and made some great records back in the 20s -- Big Road
Blues, Cool Drink of Water Blues, etcetera, and who did actually claim
to have sold his soul to the devil. Robert Johnson never made that
claim -- Son House simply said that he must have. (There's six
completely prime T. Johnson recordings on the Yazoo compilation The
Friends of Charlie Patton, and the two songs mentioned above can be
found leading off the Rhino Blues Masters disc devoted to Delta
Blues.)

Of course the Coens confuse things further by giving him a Skip James'
song, Hard Time Killing Floor Blues -- James's greatest hit, of
course, was Devil Got My Woman.

John Harkness

ros...@earthlink.net

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Jun 15, 2001, 9:02:22 PM6/15/01
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Anyone who hasn't heard "Devil Got My Woman" from Skip James' "Greatest of the
Delta Blues Singers" album, do so. I find it even more moving than Robert
Johnson (not to mention chilling).
However, that's the later version I believe. There is another version on a
Smithsonian collection that is not nearly as complex lyrically, I imagine it
must be earlier.
- Rosemary

Sally G. Waters

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Jun 16, 2001, 1:16:24 AM6/16/01
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Just watched it tonight with my husband, and while they've done
better, this was still a really good, enjoyable movie. And other
than the "Ulysses" characters who were in it - the Cyclops, the
Sirens, etc. - and the references to the hair pomade (which made
me keep thinking of John Goodman greasing up his hair after
escaping prison in "Raising Arizona")....Apart from those things,
I found it absolutely fascinating that someone could film a KKK
rally and pattern it on "The Wizard of Oz". Or am I the only one
who saw the resemblance?

Sally

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Dean Eaton

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Jun 16, 2001, 7:23:20 AM6/16/01
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This is standard Coen Bros. comedy over-acting - see "Raising Arizona", John
Turturro's unbelievable bit part in "Big Lebowski", and everyone in
"Hudsucker Proxy." Their comedies appear to be an acquired taste for
non-fans of their work
I consider OBWAT a musical folk tale, and therefore the outsized acting,
outrageous characters, and its combinations of American legends and
classical myth seems to fit its context. I think another reason many people
don't like it is because it's - well, it's sweet and funny. Certainly the
Coens' most benign movie ever, and you either fall into its mood or you
don't. As for myself, it was my favorite movie all last year.
" 'In The Jailhouse Now' , fellas - neighborhood o' B..."
dean
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Calvin Rice

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Jun 16, 2001, 10:04:21 AM6/16/01
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Having just watched the DVD today, I copied down the songlist:

po lazarus
big rock candy mountain
you are my sunshine
down to the river to pray
a man of constant sorrow
hard time killing floor blues
i'll fly away
keep on the sunny side
admiration
dont leave nobody but the baby
tom devil
in the highways
o death
what is sweeter
in the jailhouse now
i am weary (let me rest)
indian war whoop
angel band
lonesome valley

-cr

Steve Oldham

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Jun 16, 2001, 11:23:12 AM6/16/01
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:16:24 GMT, "Sally G. Waters" <sgwa...@gte.net>
wrote:

>Just watched it tonight with my husband, and while they've done
>better, this was still a really good, enjoyable movie. And other
>than the "Ulysses" characters who were in it - the Cyclops, the
>Sirens, etc. - and the references to the hair pomade (which made
>me keep thinking of John Goodman greasing up his hair after
>escaping prison in "Raising Arizona")....Apart from those things,
>I found it absolutely fascinating that someone could film a KKK
>rally and pattern it on "The Wizard of Oz". Or am I the only one
>who saw the resemblance?
>
>Sally

Another section that reminded me of the Wizard of Oz was the flood
sequence. The animals and paraphernalia floating by looked like
Dorothy's view from inside the tornado.


Steve

Dean Eaton

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Jun 16, 2001, 1:13:47 PM6/16/01
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My favorite voice-to-actor match: the peerless, tall, slim Emmylou Harris
singing for the shortest and most voluptuous of the Si-reens. I never knew
she could hit alto notes that deep before.
You probably know that Tim Nelson sings his own vocal for "In the Jailhouse
Now", and John Turturro made up his goofy little dance on the spot.
Dean
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Dave Okonski

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Jun 17, 2001, 4:32:38 PM6/17/01
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Sally G. Waters <sgwa...@gte.net> wrote in message
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> I found it absolutely fascinating that someone could film a KKK
> rally and pattern it on "The Wizard of Oz". Or am I the only one
> who saw the resemblance?

No. Our ten-year-old immediately broke into a lusty "Hoe-dee-oh - Hoe! Hoe!"
and we all joined right in.


Rufy

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Jun 18, 2001, 9:58:40 AM6/18/01
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In article <9gk5kd$hf1$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Dave Okonski"
<dave.o...@dlokons.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

We all did here at this house.

Ruth

Steve Levine

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Jun 18, 2001, 1:28:20 PM6/18/01
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> Why do they call Robert Johnson, "Tom Johnson" in the movie?

The character was based on Delta bluesman Tommy Johnson, who had a
recording career before Robert Johnson got started. I think the character
was kind of a combination of the two Johnsons. To make things more
confusing, they have him play a Skip James song.

-Steve

Stephen Cooke

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Jun 18, 2001, 1:41:21 PM6/18/01
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Oh God, I read that as "Tor Johnson"....

"Time for Tor play blues now!"

Stephen
See Tor in Brother Where You?

Unclaimed Mysteries

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Jun 18, 2001, 9:56:44 PM6/18/01
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"Stephen Cooke" <am...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in part:

> Oh God, I read that as "Tor Johnson"....
>
> "Time for Tor play blues now!"

You owe me new monitor.

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http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/


Stephen Cooke

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Jun 19, 2001, 12:50:19 PM6/19/01
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Unclaimed Mysteries wrote:

> "Stephen Cooke" <am...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in part:
>
> > Oh God, I read that as "Tor Johnson"....
> >
> > "Time for Tor play blues now!"
>
> You owe me new monitor.

o/~"Tor woke morning...Tor out bed..."o/~

Uh, NEC or Toshiba?

Stephen

Joe Morris

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Jun 19, 2001, 4:38:15 PM6/19/01
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Unclaimed Mysteries <k4...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> "Stephen Cooke" <am...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in part:
>> Oh God, I read that as "Tor Johnson"....
>>
>> "Time for Tor play blues now!"

> You owe me new monitor.

and me a keyboard. If Ed Wood could see me now....

--
Joe Morris, SysAdmin and Not Insane
Atlanta stories: http://www.olagrande.net/users/jolomo

Stephen Cooke

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Jun 19, 2001, 5:27:44 PM6/19/01
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Joe Morris wrote:

> Unclaimed Mysteries <k4...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > "Stephen Cooke" <am...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in part:
> >> Oh God, I read that as "Tor Johnson"....
> >>
> >> "Time for Tor play blues now!"
>
> > You owe me new monitor.
>
> and me a keyboard. If Ed Wood could see me now....

Oh pshaw! You look great in angora!

Stephen

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