origin of quotes from cowboy movies
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quoted lines?
"head them off at the pass!"
"white man/eyes speak with forked tongue"
"thar's gold in them thar hills!"
"a good injun is a dead injun"
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Harkness
As to the last one, ut's generally credited to General Philip Sheridan,
though it's a bit of a misquote.
http://www.indigenouspeople.net/gooddead.htm
John Harkness
Bill McClain
> "a good injun is a dead injun"
That is usually attributed to General Phil Sheridan:
http://www.trivia-library.com/b/origins-of-sayings-the-only-good-indian-is-a-dead-indian.htm
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Joe Gillis
> Anyone know the origin of these often
> quoted lines?
>
> "head them off at the pass!"
What's New Pussycat
> "white man/eyes speak with forked tongue"
Do The Right Thing
> "thar's gold in them thar hills!"
Supervixens
> "a good injun is a dead injun"
Pather Panchali
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"Joe Gillis" <Floating...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> spotlight wrote:
>> Anyone know the origin of these often
>> quoted lines?
>>
Inspired by Mr.Gillis's helpful post I gave Google a good
try out.
Here are the results:
"let's head them off at the pass!"
http://www.b-westerns.com/magers6.htm
Trigger Tim Rand(Tim McCoy)in Arizona Gangbusters(1940 PRC)
Tim says, "C'mon, let's head them off at the pass."
Not necessarily the earliest. Others suggest Roy Rogers.
"white man/eyes speak with forked tongue"
http://www.athelstane.co.uk/ballanty/twice_bt/twice14.htm
"Twice Bought" first pub. 1880
R.M.Ballantyne Chapter XIV
"The white man with the forked tongue say jus' now he not knows him."
This being a book published before Westerns,
it looks like being a quote made in the very earliest of
them.
"Thars Gold in them thar Hills"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahlonega,_Georgia
Dr. M. F. Stephenson tried to persuade miners to stay instead of joining the
California gold rush. His oration gave rise to the phrases "thar's gold in
them thar hills" and "there's millions in it".
Another quote that may be found in the earliest Westerns.
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tomcervo
Harkness wrote:
> As to the last one, ut's generally credited to General Philip Sheridan,
> though it's a bit of a misquote.
And out of context. He was at a treaty negotiation, talking to a chief
whose people had been raiding settlers, but who kept protesting that he
was a good Indian. It wasn't the contradiction it seems, but Sheridian
was getting disgusted and said that the only good Indians he ever saw
were dead. It gets quoted a lot because it's pithier than Sherman's
injunction about exterpation.
Sheridan was good at pith. When he was in Texas he said that if he
owned Hell and Texas he'd rent out Texas and live in Hell. A Dallas
newspaper editorialized "Bully for Sheridan, and damn any man who won't
stand up for his own country."
Lincoln Spector
Stagecoach comes close, with "There are some things a man can't run away
from."
Lincoln
W. Lydecker
folks have to understand is, Sheridan's offense against the Cheyenne;
Kiowa, etc. were *after* murderous raids by hostile elements.
Contrary to what movies and tv indicate, most plains tribes were *not*
a single entity. Each band followed it's own leader.
W. Lydecker
man rides the wrong trail." The original western Good Bad man.
George Peatty
wrote:
>What about "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do."
Isn't this John Wayne in The Alamo?
George Peatty
>As to the last one, ut's generally credited to General Philip Sheridan,
>though it's a bit of a misquote.
>http://www.indigenouspeople.net/gooddead.htm
Sheridan, it would appear, is quite the quotable fellow .. I like better
this one:
"If I owned both hell and Texas, I'd live in hell and rent out Texas .."
Please don't tell me that's a misquote ..
moviePig
spotlight wrote:
> "Joe Gillis" <Floating...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1154609658.7...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > spotlight wrote:
> >> Anyone know the origin of these often
> >> quoted lines?
> >>
> >snipped
>
>
> Inspired by Mr.Gillis's helpful post I gave Google a good
> try out.
> Here are the results:
>
> "let's head them off at the pass!"
> http://www.b-westerns.com/magers6.htm
> Trigger Tim Rand(Tim McCoy)in Arizona Gangbusters(1940 PRC)
> Tim says, "C'mon, let's head them off at the pass."
> Not necessarily the earliest. Others suggest Roy Rogers.
>
William "Hopalong Cassidy" Boyd made a couple hundred pictures in the
'30s. If none of those ever "headed them off at the pass", I'll eat my
spurs...
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"George Peatty" <peattyg...@copper.net> wrote in message
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Not hardly, pilgrim.
Jim Beaver
Bill McClain
> quoted lines?
Don't forget this one:
* * *
It was now the Virginian's turn to bet, or leave the game, and he
did not speak at once.
Therefore Trampas spoke. "Your bet, you son-of-a--."
The Virginian's pistol came out, and his hand lay on the table,
holding it unaimed. And with a voice as gentle as ever, the voice
that sounded almost like a caress, but drawling a very little
more than usual, so that there was almost a space between each
word, he issued his orders to the man Trampas: "When you call me
that, SMILE." And he looked at Trampas across the table.
-- THE VIRGINIAN, Owen Wister
* * *
There was another famous line from the book, but I can't recall it now.
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George Peatty
wrote:
>>>What about "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do."
>> Isn't this John Wayne in The Alamo?
>Not hardly, pilgrim.
Well, it's John Wayne from *something* ..
No Man
I always imagined the next scene in a saloon far away, the brothers
drunk and disorderly, caring nothing for not only who drew first, but
what happened next.
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"No Man has blinded me!"
Polyphemus, Son of Neptune
No Man
> "George Peatty" <peattyg...@copper.net> wrote in message
>>Isn't this John Wayne in The Alamo?
> Not hardly, pilgrim.
"Reee-publican. Ah lak th' sound of the word. Means a man can come and
go, buy or sell, be drunk or sober and the poor saps pay the taxes..."
Jim Beaver
Well, if you can find it this side of a "Laugh-In" appearance, you're a
better man than I am, Gunga Peatty!
It'll be fun looking, though.
Jim Beaver
George Peatty
wrote:
>>>What about "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do."
>>>> Isn't this John Wayne in The Alamo?
>>>Not hardly, pilgrim.
>> Well, it's John Wayne from *something* ..
>Well, if you can find it this side of a "Laugh-In" appearance
I did a quick Google for it, and found that it is attributed to him in
dozens of places, but no one cites a source. He said something *like* it as
the Ringo Kid in Stagecoach, but it's hardly the same ..
Henry, the Ringo Kid: Well, there are some things a man just can't run away
from.
Hard to believe the expression would enter the common consciousness and yet
no one seems to remember where it came from. If it wasn't a line from one
of his movies, then maybe it was just something that popped into his head
and caught on .. Like, when he had to put on that bunny suit for Rowan and
Martin .. :)
Jim Beaver
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:41:06 GMT, "Jim Beaver" <jumb...@prodigy.spam>
> wrote:
>
>>>>What about "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do."
>
>>>>> Isn't this John Wayne in The Alamo?
>
>>>>Not hardly, pilgrim.
>
>>> Well, it's John Wayne from *something* ..
>
>>Well, if you can find it this side of a "Laugh-In" appearance
>
> I did a quick Google for it, and found that it is attributed to him in
> dozens of places, but no one cites a source. He said something *like* it
> as
> the Ringo Kid in Stagecoach, but it's hardly the same ..
>
> Henry, the Ringo Kid: Well, there are some things a man just can't run
> away
> from.
>
> Hard to believe the expression would enter the common consciousness and
> yet
> no one seems to remember where it came from.
Kind of like "Judy, Judy, Judy" and "You dirty rat, you're the guy that
killed my brother!"
Jim Beaver
No Man
> Hard to believe the expression would enter the common consciousness and yet
> no one seems to remember where it came from.
"Play it again, Sam."
Dave in Toronto
No Man wrote:
> George Peatty wrote:
>
> > Hard to believe the expression would enter the common consciousness and yet
> > no one seems to remember where it came from.
>
> "Play it again, Sam."
>
>
>
> --
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I think most of these non-existent expressions come from impressionists
exaggerating the stars delivery. I seem to remember Bette Davis
threatened to sue one of them (male-forget his name) who did a really
cruel impression of her in his night club act saying "Peter. Peter.
Perfect Peter".
Dave in Toronto
tomcervo
Jim Beaver wrote:
> Kind of like "Judy, Judy, Judy" and "You dirty rat, you're the guy that
> killed my brother!"
>
Who did "You gave it to my sister. You gave it to my mother. Now I'm
going to give it to you."
No Man
> I think most of these non-existent expressions come from impressionists
> exaggerating the stars delivery. I seem to remember Bette Davis
> threatened to sue one of them (male-forget his name) who did a really
> cruel impression of her in his night club act saying "Peter. Peter.
> Perfect Peter".
Next you'll tell me Cagney never did "You dirty rats..."
I remember Bette on Cavett, I think it was, marveling at the Peter line,
which she claimed never to have delivered.
Another just occurred to me:
"No man takes my gun."
George Peatty
>Another just occurred to me:
>"No man takes my gun."
Bogart claims never to have said, "Tennis anyone?" and "Okay, Louie, drop
the gun."
El Klauso
No - "Reee-pub-lic." (Like his old studio...)
No Man
> No - "Reee-pub-lic." (Like his old studio...)
That's a joke, son.
W. Lydecker
Ah keep pitchin' 'em and you keep strikin' out.
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"Come out [McClusky?] with your hands up"
"You'll never take me alive, copper"
I don't know if those two came together at any time,
but I feel I,ve heard a few versions of them.
"No law West of the Pecos" Perhaps predates film?
"A one horse town"
Perhaps the Berlin song "Settle Down in a One-Horse Town"
or earlier?
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Dave in Toronto
Hayes say - "Those folks are sure in a hurry" as he spied a bunch of
galloping horseman in the distance?
Dave in Toronto
Gadabout Gaddis
"tomcervo" <tomc...@aol.com> wrote:
> Who did "You gave it to my sister. You gave it to my mother. Now I'm
> going to give it to you."
John Holmes?
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Since so many of those are lost, we may never identify the originals
Mike Bock