The 100 Greatest American Films according to the BBC

nick...@gmail.com

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Jul 21, 2015, 8:06:54 PM7/21/15

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The usual suspects aside from some eccentric picks that someone like Jonathan Rosenbaum probably got in with his vote. How some of these got in here, I don't know. The Dark Knight? Eyes Wide Shut?

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150720-the-100-greatest-american-films

100. Ace in the Hole (Billy Wilder, 1951)
99. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
98. Heaven’s Gate (Michael Cimino, 1980)
97. Gone With the Wind (Victor Fleming, 1939)
96. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
95. Duck Soup (Leo McCarey, 1933)
94. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
93. Mean Streets (Martin Scorsese, 1973)
92. The Night of the Hunter (Charles Laughton, 1955)
91. ET: The Extra-Terrestrial (Steven Spielberg, 1982)
90. Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979)
89. In a Lonely Place (Nicholas Ray, 1950)
88. West Side Story (Robert Wise and Jerome Robbins, 1961)
87. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
86. The Lion King (Roger Allers and Rob Minkoff, 1994)
85. Night of the Living Dead (George A Romero, 1968)
84. Deliverance (John Boorman, 1972)
83. Bringing Up Baby (Howard Hawks, 1938)
82. Raiders of the Lost Ark (Steven Spielberg, 1981)
81. Thelma & Louise (Ridley Scott, 1991)
80. Meet Me in St Louis (Vincente Minnelli, 1944)
79. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
78. Schindler’s List (Steven Spielberg, 1993)
77. Stagecoach (John Ford, 1939)
76. The Empire Strikes Back (Irvin Kershner, 1980)
75. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Steven Spielberg, 1977)
74. Forrest Gump (Robert Zemeckis, 1994)
73. Network (Sidney Lumet, 1976)
72. The Shanghai Gesture (Josef von Sternberg, 1941)
71. Groundhog Day (Harold Ramis, 1993)
70. The Band Wagon (Vincente Minnelli, 1953)
69. Koyaanisqatsi (Godfrey Reggio, 1982)
68. Notorious (Alfred Hitchcock, 1946)
67. Modern Times (Charlie Chaplin, 1936)
66. Red River (Howard Hawks, 1948)
65. The Right Stuff (Philip Kaufman, 1965)
64. Johnny Guitar (Nicholas Ray, 1954)
63. Love Streams (John Cassavetes, 1984)
62. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick, 1980)
61. Eyes Wide Shut (Stanley Kubrick, 1999)
60. Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986)
59. One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (Miloš Forman, 1975)
58. The Shop Around the Corner (Ernst Lubitsch, 1940)
57. Crimes and Misdemeanors (Woody Allen, 1989)
56. Back to the Future (Robert Zemeckis, 1985)
55. The Graduate (Mike Nichols, 1967)
54. Sunset Boulevard (Billy Wilder, 1950)
53. Grey Gardens (Albert and David Maysles, Ellen Hovde and Muffie Meyer, 1975)
52. The Wild Bunch (Sam Peckinpah, 1969)
51. Touch of Evil (Orson Welles, 1958)
50. His Girl Friday (Howard Hawks, 1940)
49. Days of Heaven (Terrence Malick, 1978)
48. A Place in the Sun (George Stevens, 1951)
47. Marnie (Alfred Hitchcock, 1964)
46. It’s a Wonderful Life (Frank Capra, 1946)
45. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (John Ford, 1962)
44. Sherlock Jr (Buster Keaton, 1924)
43. Letter from an Unknown Woman (Max Ophüls, 1948)
42. Dr Strangelove (Stanley Kubrick, 1964)
41. Rio Bravo (Howard Hawks, 1959)
40. Meshes of the Afternoon (Maya Deren and Alexander Hammid, 1943)
39. The Birth of a Nation (DW Griffith, 1915)
38. Jaws (Steven Spielberg, 1975)
37. Imitation of Life (Douglas Sirk, 1959)
36. Star Wars (George Lucas, 1977)
35. Double Indemnity (Billy Wilder, 1944)
34. The Wizard of Oz (Victor Fleming, 1939)
33. The Conversation (Francis Ford Coppola, 1974)
32. The Lady Eve (Preston Sturges, 1941)
31. A Woman Under the Influence (John Cassavetes, 1974)
30. Some Like It Hot (Billy Wilder, 1959)
29. Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese, 1980)
28. Pulp Fiction (Quentin Tarantino, 1994)
27. Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, 1975)
26. Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett, 1978)
25. Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee, 1989)
24. The Apartment (Billy Wilder, 1960)
23. Annie Hall (Woody Allen, 1977)
22. Greed (Erich von Stroheim, 1924)
21. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)
20. Goodfellas (Martin Scorsese, 1990)
19. Taxi Driver (Martin Scorsese, 1976)
18. City Lights (Charlie Chaplin, 1931)
17. The Gold Rush (Charlie Chaplin, 1925)
16. McCabe & Mrs Miller (Robert Altman, 1971)
15. The Best Years of Our Lives (William Wyler, 1946)
14. Nashville (Robert Altman, 1975)
13. North by Northwest (Alfred Hitchcock, 1959)
12. Chinatown (Roman Polanski, 1974)
11. The Magnificent Ambersons (Orson Welles, 1942)
10. The Godfather Part II (Francis Ford Coppola, 1974)
9. Casablanca (Michael Curtiz, 1942)
8. Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)
7. Singin’ in the Rain (Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly, 1952)
6. Sunrise (FW Murnau, 1927)
5. The Searchers (John Ford, 1956)
4. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968)
3. Vertigo (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958)
2. The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)
1. Citizen Kane (Orson Welles, 1941)

Obveeus

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Jul 21, 2015, 8:18:47 PM7/21/15

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On 7/21/2015 8:06 PM, nick...@gmail.com wrote:
> http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150720-the-100-greatest-american-films

They need to stop letting old people control the vote. Only a very few
films from this century and they bow to do that at the feet of Batman?
Seriously?

hislop

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Jul 21, 2015, 9:28:16 PM7/21/15

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On 22/07/2015 10:06 AM, nick...@gmail.com wrote:
> The usual suspects aside from some eccentric picks that someone like Jonathan Rosenbaum probably got in with his vote. How some of these got in here, I don't know. The Dark Knight? Eyes Wide Shut?
>
> http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150720-the-100-greatest-american-films
>

I remember seeing a list, a lot shorter in the People's Alamanc 2 from
the late 70s that included The Crowd and The Bicycle Thief.

I detested The Dark Knight and won't see the sequel. They kept the
promotion going after the killings in the cinema.

Maybe good to see Sunrise right up there, some people might have
included The Big Parade.

hislop

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Jul 21, 2015, 9:29:46 PM7/21/15

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On 22/07/2015 11:28 AM, hislop wrote:
> On 22/07/2015 10:06 AM, nick...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The usual suspects aside from some eccentric picks that someone like
>> Jonathan Rosenbaum probably got in with his vote. How some of these
>> got in here, I don't know. The Dark Knight? Eyes Wide Shut?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150720-the-100-greatest-american-films
>>
>
> I remember seeing a list, a lot shorter in the People's Alamanc 2 from
> the late 70s that included The Crowd and The Bicycle Thief.
>

Yes, The Bicycle Thief wasn't an American film, the site is stil though
the BBC.

nick...@gmail.com

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Jul 21, 2015, 10:45:32 PM7/21/15

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On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 8:18:47 PM UTC-4, Obveeus wrote:
> On 7/21/2015 8:06 PM, nick...@gmail.com wrote:
> > http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150720-the-100-greatest-american-films
>
> They need to stop letting old people control the vote.

Be careful what you wish for. Spring Breakers and Inherent Vice had their supporters even if they didn't make the hot 100.

best...@gmail.com

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Jul 22, 2015, 1:05:50 AM7/22/15

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"The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" (1948) is not on the list!!!

David O.

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Jul 22, 2015, 1:19:32 AM7/22/15

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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:06:51 -0700 (PDT), nick...@gmail.com wrote:

>The usual suspects aside from some eccentric picks that someone like Jonathan Rosenbaum probably got in with his vote. How some of these got in here, I don't know. The Dark Knight? Eyes Wide Shut?
>
>http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150720-the-100-greatest-american-films

Did I overlook, or is ON THE WATERFRONT not there?

kerrison1...@yahoo.co.uk

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Jul 22, 2015, 3:44:59 AM7/22/15

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> >The usual suspects aside from some eccentric picks that someone like Jonathan Rosenbaum probably got in with his vote. How some of these got in here, I don't know. The Dark Knight? Eyes Wide Shut?
> >
> >http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150720-the-100-greatest-american-films
>
> Did I overlook, or is ON THE WATERFRONT not there?

It's extraordinary that Charles Laughton's name appears against the only film he directed while none of the great films he appeared in are shown ... ie: from 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame' and 'Mutiny on the Bounty' up to 'Spartacus' and 'Advise and Consent.' Still, I suppose it's what is actually meant by "greatest."

madar...@gmail.com

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Jul 22, 2015, 7:14:48 AM7/22/15

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No, it's not nor is any other Elia Kazan film there.
Nor is REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE.
Hell, even KING KONG (1933) is missing.

And of all the Hitchcock films included, three of his best are missing: REBECCA, SHADOW OF A DOUBT, STRANGERS ON A TRAIN.

There's only seven titles on there I haven't seen and six of those are the most recent ones.

nick...@gmail.com

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Jul 22, 2015, 8:10:26 AM7/22/15

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The critics who voted for Vertigo or Citizen Kane must have been taking their responsibility seriously. You'd think by now people would want to change it up a bit. Vote for Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! or something.

Heynonny

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Jul 24, 2015, 6:51:25 PM7/24/15

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If anybody knows Ahearn personally, please find some way to keep him
away for a few days while this scrolls off.

I would be concerned about a heart attack.

WrongWayWade

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Jul 31, 2015, 9:20:51 AM7/31/15

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In article <6446ca24-c33b-423e...@googlegroups.com>,
nick...@gmail.com says...

>
>The usual suspects aside from some eccentric picks that someone like
Jonathan Rosenbaum probably got in with his vote. How some of these got in
here, I don't know. The Dark Knight? Eyes Wide Shut?
>
>http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150720-the-100-greatest-american-films
>

How many have you NOT seen?

My list (I think):

100. Ace in the Hole (Billy Wilder, 1951)

94. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)

89. In a Lonely Place (Nicholas Ray, 1950)

72. The Shanghai Gesture (Josef von Sternberg, 1941)

70. The Band Wagon (Vincente Minnelli, 1953)
69. Koyaanisqatsi (Godfrey Reggio, 1982)

64. Johnny Guitar (Nicholas Ray, 1954)
63. Love Streams (John Cassavetes, 1984)

53. Grey Gardens (Albert and David Maysles, Ellen Hovde and Muffie Meyer,
1975)

49. Days of Heaven (Terrence Malick, 1978)

44. Sherlock Jr (Buster Keaton, 1924)
43. Letter from an Unknown Woman (Max Ophüls, 1948)

40. Meshes of the Afternoon (Maya Deren and Alexander Hammid, 1943)

26. Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett, 1978)

22. Greed (Erich von Stroheim, 1924)

madar...@gmail.com

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Jul 31, 2015, 4:32:03 PM7/31/15

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Okay, the ones on that list that you absolutely NEED to see are: ACE IN THE HOLE, IN A LONELY PLACE, THE BAND WAGON, JOHNNY GUITAR, SHERLOCK JR. and LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN. Believe me, you can skip the rest.

nick...@gmail.com

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Jul 31, 2015, 8:53:27 PM7/31/15

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On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 9:20:51 AM UTC-4, WrongWayWade wrote:

> In article <6446ca24-c33b-423e...@googlegroups.com>,
> nick...@gmail.com says...
> >
> >The usual suspects aside from some eccentric picks that someone like
> Jonathan Rosenbaum probably got in with his vote. How some of these got in
> here, I don't know. The Dark Knight? Eyes Wide Shut?
> >
> >http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150720-the-100-greatest-american-films
> >
>
> How many have you NOT seen?
>

Counting up the ones I haven't seen . . . I need to brush up on my Howard Hawks' westerns and Cassavetes.

Looking at that list again, I'm wondering how anyone could rate Thelma and Louise as one of the 100 best movies ever made.

Ann Chovee

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Jul 31, 2015, 9:18:21 PM7/31/15

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On 7/31/2015 4:33 PM, poisoned rose wrote:

> madar...@gmail.com wrote:

>> Okay, the ones on that list that you absolutely NEED to see are: ACE IN THE
>> HOLE, IN A LONELY PLACE, THE BAND WAGON, JOHNNY GUITAR, SHERLOCK JR. and
>> LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN. Believe me, you can skip the rest.
>

> I don't believe you. For starters, I'd say Greed is the most essential
> film on that list.
>

Johnny Guitar is a silly pretentious piece of crap.
Ace In The Hole (AKA The Big Carnival) is a must-see.

moviePig

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Aug 1, 2015, 8:42:38 AM8/1/15

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It could be there for capturing a zeitgeist, along with FATAL ATTRACTION.

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Heynonny

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Aug 1, 2015, 4:13:10 PM8/1/15

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I admire honesty.

I'm not sure how credibility-building it would be on a forum
discussing, say, PhD programs to admit you hadn't gotten through the
3rd grade, but I do admire honesty.

David O.

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