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Forever Amber(1947) Original Ending?

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cin...@hotmail.com

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Mar 9, 2011, 2:34:58 AM3/9/11
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When Forever Amber was first released in 1947 the Catholic League of
Decency condemned it and told FOX that they would have to make many
changes to it for the League to take it off its Condemned List.
Eventually FOX complied with their request and among other things the
ending is now different. Amber looks out as Cornel Wilde and her young
son walk away together and she accepts an invitation for supper from
the King's Equerry.

What was the original ending? Does the negative still exist?
In the era of LaserDiscs there was an advert in one of the magazines
that the upcoming laserdisc would feature the original ending but it
was never released.
Any further information would be much appreciated.

Regards,
Peter Mason

Howard Brazee

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Mar 9, 2011, 9:40:23 AM3/9/11
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:34:58 -0800 (PST), cin...@hotmail.com wrote:

>When Forever Amber was first released in 1947 the Catholic League of
>Decency condemned it and told FOX that they would have to make many
>changes to it for the League to take it off its Condemned List.
>Eventually FOX complied with their request and among other things the
>ending is now different. Amber looks out as Cornel Wilde and her young
>son walk away together and she accepts an invitation for supper from
>the King's Equerry.
>
>What was the original ending? Does the negative still exist?

A few decades ago I read the book. If I remember correctly in the
book, someone gets rid of her by telling her that her American lover's
wife died - she doesn't doubt him for a second and ships out to
America.

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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

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Madara0806

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Mar 9, 2011, 1:42:28 PM3/9/11
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On Mar 9, 9:40 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:34:58 -0800 (PST), cine...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >When Forever Amber was first released in 1947 the Catholic League of
> >Decency condemned it and told FOX that they would have to make many
> >changes to it for the League to take it off its Condemned List.
> >Eventually FOX complied with their request and among other things the
> >ending is now different. Amber looks out as Cornel Wilde and her young
> >son walk away together and she accepts an invitation for supper from
> >the King's Equerry.
>
> >What was the original ending? Does the negative still exist?
>
> A few decades ago I read the book.    If I remember correctly in the
> book, someone gets rid of her by telling her that her American lover's
> wife died - she doesn't doubt him for a second and ships out to
> America.
>
>
What a great sequel that would make: "Amber Does America"

bermuda999

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Mar 9, 2011, 4:47:42 PM3/9/11
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> What a great sequel that would make: "Amber Does America"-

I Am Curious (Amber)

Jeffry L. Johnson

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Mar 10, 2011, 7:30:43 AM3/10/11
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On Mar 9, 2:34 am, cine...@hotmail.com wrote:
> What was the original ending? Does the negative still exist?

http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/75410/Forever-Amber/notes.html
[quote]

The film opens with the following voice-over narration: "This is the
tragic story of Amber St. Clair, slave to ambition, stranger to
virtue, fated to find the wealth and power she ruthlessly gained
wither to ashes in the fire lit by passion and fed by defiance of the
eternal command-the wages of sin is death." A written prologue
follows, establishing the historical and geographical locale and,
after an introductory scene, a second written prologue sets the period
as sixteen years later, during the reign of Charles II. Another voice-
over narration, spoken by actor Cornel Wilde as the character of
"Bruce Carlton," over closing shots is a reprise of dialogue from an
earlier part of the film and states: "Haven't we caused enough
unhappiness? May God have mercy on us both for our sins." Both voice-
over narrations are only heard on the 35mm print and are not on the
videotape release of the film.

[snip]

According to various contemporary news items, Forever Amber
opened in New York City at the Roxy Theatre on October 22, 1947 and
set an opening day box-office record. On the same day, the film was
condemned by the Catholic Legion of Decency. Cardinal Francis J.
Spellman, Archbishop of New York, termed the film "a glorification of
immorality and licentiousness" and advised that "Catholics May not see
this production with a safe conscience." Hollywood Reporter news items
throughout the end of October and early November 1947 note that in
Providence, Indianapolis, Cincinnati and Boston, Catholic Church
representatives spoke out officially against the film and in some
cases attempted to have showings legally halted. Similar news items
reveal that the Archbishop of Philadelphia threatened a boycott of the
Fox Theatre unless Forever Amber was withdrawn within 48 hours.
According to memos and correspondence in PCA files, in an
effort to reverse the Legion's "C" rating, Twentieth Century-Fox
officials agreed with PCA recommendations that a voice-over prologue
and epilogue be added. A PCA memo states that Preminger was
"vehemently opposed" to the epilogue because Bruce's voice-over
admission of sin is heard over a shot of Amber, and threatened to
disassociate himself from the entire production if the edit was
carried out. There is no evidence that Preminger took any such action.
The additional soundtrack material and cutting instructions were
shipped to over 400 exhibitors and were in full effect on all prints
in release by mid-December 1947. Based on these changes, the Legion of
Decency reclassified Forever Amber from a "C" or "condemned" rating to
a "B" or "morally objectional in part" rating on 8 December 1947.
[/quote]

Wull

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Mar 10, 2011, 8:19:26 AM3/10/11
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Regardless what is said about the beginning, ending or whatever, the movie
showed Linda Darnell (one of hollywood's most beautiful women) as a blond
and she never looked as beautiful as she did in FA. She died a most tragic
death sacrificing herself for a child that was not in danger. I think she
may have been 42 years old.

Wull
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Film Buff

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Mar 11, 2011, 11:06:37 PM3/11/11
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Just saw this on FMC and there was NO voice over narrations at the beginning or the end

However I thought the movie ended abruptly as if Amber was about to speak, and suddenly there seemed

to be cut and "THE END" appeared.

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