Why David Caruso failed as a film actor
Rammstein
orange hair seriously as a tough-guy.But they do make for bad,average,and
good comedians:
Danny Kaye
Gene Wilder
Woody Allen
Red Buttons
Lucille Ball
Carrottop(stand-up)
Danny Bonaduce(TV)
Who am I leaving out?
Did 'The Joker' have red or green hair?
Cadet Grey
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Ever seen Lucille Ball in "The Big Street" (1942)? She
gives one of her best (maybe her very best) performances
in the strictly dramatic role of a cynical nightclub singer
who is crippled and then selfishly uses lovestruck busboy
Henry Fonda to pursue her dreams of snagging a rich
husband. She's also fantastic as Mark Stevens' devoted
secretary in the film noir "The Dark Corner" (1946).
Lucy had no trouble shifting from comedy to bitch to
straight heroine, a very versatile talent indeed.
- Grey
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
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I quite agree. In fact I just rewatched _The Dark Corner_ this last week and
was again impressed by how good it is overall and how well Lucy does.
Referring to the above list, I can't help but remember that Red Buttons got
an Oscar for his dramatic role in _Sayonara_ (1957). I also recall that
Buttons made his film debut in Cukor's _Winged Victory_ (1944), a war film
and hardly a comedy. Looking at his overall career, I'd say Buttons was
primarily a dramatic actor.
David Caruso's problem is not his hair or complexion (the same as one of my
most fondly ex-lovers); it's his highly mannered, egotistical acting style.
I actually enjoy him hamming it up on "CSI: Miami". But in a movie, on the
big screen, it is unbearable (and not a little funny).
--
Frank in Seattle
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"I leave you now in radiant contentment"
-- "Whistling in the Dark"
Corse
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I read an article on this point recently. The author was wondering how some
well known red-heads like Tracy and Hepburn, for instance, would have done
if they hadn't primarily worked in the days of black and white films.
Corse
nanwynnfan
Ahhhhhh, yes, FRAJM, Caruso's interminable pregnant pause: one eagerly awaits
the birth of a dangling participle. [Have also heard he's a bundle of laughs
& good will on his sets ... NOT!]
ANIM8Rfsk
<< > > Did 'The Joker' have red or green hair? >>
green
<< David Caruso's problem is not his hair or complexion (the same as one of my
most fondly ex-lovers); it's his highly mannered, egotistical acting style.
I actually enjoy him hamming it up on "CSI: Miami". But in a movie, on the
big screen, it is unbearable (and not a little funny). >>
At any moment Cheryl Deering is going to appear and say
"GarrelliWhatWhenI'mOnMyWay"
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
"ANIM8Rfsk" <anim...@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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> << From: "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" fr...@blarg.net >>
>
>
> << > > Did 'The Joker' have red or green hair? >>
>
> green
>
ANIM8Rfsk, you're a splendid human being and credit to your profession, but
you simply must not misattribute. I did not and would not ever ask that
question because of course I've known the answer for a half-century or so.
>
> << David Caruso's problem is not his hair or complexion (the same as one
of my
> most fondly ex-lovers); it's his highly mannered, egotistical acting
style.
> I actually enjoy him hamming it up on "CSI: Miami". But in a movie, on the
> big screen, it is unbearable (and not a little funny). >>
>
> At any moment Cheryl Deering is going to appear and say
> "GarrelliWhatWhenI'mOnMyWay"
>
I was watching Caruso on the Little Screen last Monday and in fact thinking
what an S.O.B. he must be to work with. He just radiates bad vibes. I still
get a kick out of his show.
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
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I caught the beginning of a certain, all too well known infomercial a bit
ago which reminded me that Chuck Norris, while no great shakes as an actor
but certainly a tough guy, is a red head.
ANIM8Rfsk
<< ANIM8Rfsk, you're a splendid human being and credit to your profession, but
you simply must not misattribute. >>
Apologies. There's a mess of quotes in front of it, but I should have gone in
and dug out the OP's name.
<< I was watching Caruso on the Little Screen last Monday and in fact thinking
what an S.O.B. he must be to work with. He just radiates bad vibes. >>
May I quote you on that? :-)
John Lynch
> ago which reminded me that Chuck Norris, while no great shakes as an actor
> but certainly a tough guy, is a red head.
>
> --
> Frank in Seattle
Red hair didn't seem to hurt the careers of Greer Garson, Moira Shearer and
Van Johnson. Tilda Swinton also comes to mind, but I wish she'd go back to
Britain and continue making good movies.
jl
Mpoconnor7
>Van Johnson. Tilda Swinton also comes to mind, but I wish she'd go back to
>Britain and continue making good movies.
William H Macy is a redhead and is one of the most in-demand character actors
out there.
Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
"The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait".
dobe...@deletesocal.rr.com
>Red hair didn't seem to hurt the careers of Greer Garson, Moira Shearer and
>Van Johnson. Tilda Swinton also comes to mind, but I wish she'd go back to
>Britain and continue making good movies.
But Lucille Ball used to joke on her shows that she used Henna Rinse.
Was she a natural redhead? a dirty redhead who used the dye to
increase the orange?
--
The city of Ogden is some sixteen miles north of Farmington.
-- De Voto, "Nemesis"
how...@brazee.net
On 18-Jan-2004, John Lynch <ano...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Red hair didn't seem to hurt the careers of Greer Garson, Moira Shearer
> and
> Van Johnson. Tilda Swinton also comes to mind, but I wish she'd go back to
> Britain and continue making good movies.
Very few blonds (but lots of blondes) have been movie heroes. I guess
Robert Redford's hair is a bit red, which makes his success doubly rare.
Off hand, I can think of one blond and one male red-head who won Oscars for
acting. Am I missing some?
Tom Cervo
is neither of these.
He had a show practically written around him, a cast of supporting actors and
better writing than he's likely to find in feature films. Some people can't be
protected from themselves.
Mpoconnor7
>acting. Am I missing some?
William Hurt is sort of blond.
John Harkness
Well, Tracy won two, and William Hurt, of course.
Michael Caine has two.
Jon Voight and Chris Walken in the same year.
Red Buttons.
Just off hand
Barry Fitzgerald was probably a redhead once. Crosby was blondish...
John Harkness
Cadet Grey
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And don't forget ... Laurence Olivier won his Best Actor Oscar
for playing a blonde! :-)
- Grey
aemilia
<fr...@blarg.net> wrote:
>David Caruso's problem is not his hair or complexion (the same as one of my
>most fondly ex-lovers); it's his highly mannered, egotistical acting style.
>I actually enjoy him hamming it up on "CSI: Miami". But in a movie, on the
>big screen, it is unbearable (and not a little funny).
I agree...his mannerisms works on the small screen, but looks horrible
on the big screen. I've enjoyed him both in NYPD Blue and CSI Miami.
He is a one note actor, but his one note works well in certain
situations.
aemilia
Mike O'sullivan
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What was that series with Caruso as a D.A. or something, "Michael Heyes" was
it? We had a series of that in the UK. Whatever happened to it, was it
cancelled?
John Lynch
John Harkness wrote:
> <snip>
>
> Barry Fitzgerald was probably a redhead once. Crosby was blondish...
>
Don't you mean that Crosby's toupee was blondish?
jl
Stephen Cooke
I just got the box set of Michael Mann's Crime Story series, and it's
interesting to watch a young Caruso (shouldn't he be on the Sopranos?) as
a wannabe street hood. A much different kind of performance from what
would come later. I think he's found his groove and he's sticking with it,
but one wishes he'd stretch his legs a bit more.
swac
Then there's his appearance in First Blood, taking on Rambo...
ANIM8Rfsk
<< What was that series with Caruso as a D.A. or something, "Michael Heyes" was
it? We had a series of that in the UK. Whatever happened to it, was it
cancelled? >>
"Michael Hayes" (1997)
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0118400/
one season, 22 eps
Vince
>Re: Why David Caruso failed as a film actor
looks like two of the films he did:
the "Kiss of Death" remake and the other title escapes me weren't much to start
off with.
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Stephen Cooke
On 19 Jan 2004, Vince wrote:
>
>
> >Re: Why David Caruso failed as a film actor
>
>
> looks like two of the films he did:
>
> the "Kiss of Death" remake and the other title escapes me weren't much to start
> off with.
You're thinking of Jade, directed by William Friedkin, which was supposed
to be a big career boost for both Caruso and Linda Fiorentino. Look how
well *that* worked out.
About all Jade had going for it was a nifty car chase (a la French
Connection and To Live and Die in LA) that felt superglued to an otherwise
unremarkable plot. And still, it had to have that old cliche where the
chase gets bogged down by a big dragon parade in Chinatown.
swac
Wondering why, when the chase gets stuck in the parade, Caruso doesn't
call for backup to block the escape route at the other end...
John Harkness
<am...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
>
>On 19 Jan 2004, Vince wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> >Re: Why David Caruso failed as a film actor
>>
>>
>> looks like two of the films he did:
>>
>> the "Kiss of Death" remake and the other title escapes me weren't much to start
>> off with.
>
>You're thinking of Jade, directed by William Friedkin, which was supposed
>to be a big career boost for both Caruso and Linda Fiorentino. Look how
>well *that* worked out.
>
Well, neither of them get along with anybody -- anybody ever notice
that Linda Fiorentino almost never works with the same director twice?
John Harkness
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Mr. Caruso had no personal charisma or charm.
ANIM8Rfsk
<< About all Jade had going for it was a nifty car chase (a la French
Connection and To Live and Die in LA) that felt superglued to an otherwise
unremarkable plot. >>
Oh, come on, it has that great scene where Caruso answers the phone and says
GarrelliWhatWhereI'mOnMyWay and you're waiting to hear the little voice on the
other end say 'hello? hello?'
Wishy13764
acting silly, laugh, laugh and laugh.
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
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> John Lynch <ano...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Red hair didn't seem to hurt the careers of Greer Garson, Moira Shearer
and
> >Van Johnson. Tilda Swinton also comes to mind, but I wish she'd go back
to
> >Britain and continue making good movies.
>
> But Lucille Ball used to joke on her shows that she used Henna Rinse.
> Was she a natural redhead? a dirty redhead who used the dye to
> increase the orange?
The following are snippets from a website called Lucille Ball Movie Career -
Before Lucy (http://www.youns.com/lucy/movies.asp):
"It was during the filming of this movie, that Lucy met Lela Rogers, mother
of Ginger Rogers who was playing in the film. It was Lela that taught Ginger
Rogers everything she knew. Lela now took Lucy under her wing. She knew Lucy
would be great at comedy and soon she became a part of a small intimate
group centered around Ginger. Lela taught Lucy how to treat agents and
bosses and how to act and look like a star."
"Lucille's striking color, pale white skin, blue eyes and bright red hair
served to distinguish her from other starlets of the period."
"In 1942, she decided to leave the financially beleaguered RKO for MGM. They
changed her appearance and although she had been a redhead at RKO, they dyed
her hair a lighter, more vibrant shade for Technicolor, "Tango Red". They
also changed the style from long and loose to up and lacquered, setting the
stage for the "Lucy Look" that would follow her the remainder of her life."
I find the connection to Ginger Rogers particularly interesting in the
regard. Rogers was a natural redhead, thus the name, but early in her career
her hair was dyed blonde, according to
http://www.reelclassics.com/Actresses/Ginger/ginger-bio.htm .
Vince
(Wishy13764) writes:
>
>He never seems to get out of character. Just once, i would love to see him
>acting silly, laugh, laugh and laugh.
I agree he always plays the same, too damn serious.
Vince
<Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.104...@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca>,
Stephen Cooke <am...@chebucto.ns.ca> writes:
>
>You're thinking of Jade, directed by William Friedkin, which was supposed
>to be a big career boost for both Caruso and Linda Fiorentino. Look how
>well *that* worked out.
>
Right NOW I remember the title.
Ollie W. Holmes
>
> You're thinking of Jade, directed by William Friedkin, which was supposed
> to be a big career boost for both Caruso and Linda Fiorentino. Look how
> well *that* worked out.
>
> About all Jade had going for it was a nifty car chase (a la French
> Connection and To Live and Die in LA) that felt superglued to an otherwise
> unremarkable plot. And still, it had to have that old cliche where the
> chase gets bogged down by a big dragon parade in Chinatown.
>
It died after the opening series of shots. Stravinsky-esque, but it
lost tempo. Another reason it failed was no nude shots of Fiorentino.
This lovely woman who got me erect so many times watching The Last
Seduction, just does not sizzle on the screen (in Jade) as she should.
Liberty Stands Still is another one of her duds.
Now lemme explain why Caruso never made it big, or even lasted on the
big screen. It's not his voice. He has a very cool voice. It's not
even his one-dimensionality. He pooped because he came up as being a
mere shadow of the de facto cool slim guy of cinema, i.e., Steve
McQueen. Steve could carry an imperfect screenplay like The Thomas
Crown Affair or Getaway. Caruso cannot.
As for the top poster's remarks about Lucille Ball- dead wrong. She
was hot in Panama Lady. Hotter than the jungle, steamier than the
sun-bathed river.
Stephen Cooke
Oh right, I forgot. Plus all those scenes where he looks pensive.
Is Jade the Heaven's Gate of erotic thrillers? I remember a lot of hype
about it at the time it came out, and true to form it was neither erotic
nor thrilling. But in a spectacularly overblown way.
swac
I think you saw Fiorentino in her underwear, but the rest is pretty much a
blur.
Stephen Cooke
On 20 Jan 2004, Wishy13764 wrote:
> He never seems to get out of character. Just once, i would love to see him
> acting silly, laugh, laugh and laugh.
Check him out in Crime Story, or First Blood. He hasn't found his moody
groove yet in those films.
swac
Vince
<Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.104...@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca>,
Stephen Cooke <am...@chebucto.ns.ca> writes:
>I think you saw Fiorentino in her underwear, but the rest is pretty much a
>blur.
I don't know to me she wasn't all that hot.
Maureen Goldman
Same reason as most people, likely. There can only be so many movie
stars.
ANIM8Rfsk
<< I think you saw Fiorentino in her underwear, but the rest is pretty much a
blur. >>
Fiorentino in her underwear will have that effect on the surrounding reality.
Lawrence Chalmers
place might work better
The other actors in the film were stronger than he..
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The more I get into CSI miami the more I see Caruso's performance as
Horation Caine so much like Jack Lord's Steve McGarrett on Hawaii 5
0.
I really here certain mono syballic nuances that sound ala McGarrett.
I wonder if David Caruso was a Jack Lord/McGarrett fan.
Funny too though there was an episode on Hawaii Five-o called
"Tsunami"
when
the bad guys had manged a false alert of a Tsunami to be put out so
they
could do a major robbery.
Anyway, just my two cents.
jeff
Reply
McGarrett Dec 18, 2:59 pm show options
You are 100 percent correct! I am a huge Hawaii Five O fan and Jack
Lord is what made this program the success is was and continues to be.
I don't know if any of you out there know but there will be a Hawaii
Five-O movie coming out in the future! It's has been in the works for
several years, but it's coming together.
Breaking News
WARNER BROTHERS TAKES OVER THE FIVE-O MOVIE!
See article in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin
http://starbulletin.com/2004/09/09/news/story3.html
On one of the Hawaii Five-O sites there was even a poll you could take
where you voted for who would be the best Steve Mcgarrett. Tommy Lee
Jones was highly voted, Alec Baldwin, George Cloony, and Harrison Ford.
I wasn't real happy with the ones voted on except maybe George
Clooney, as he might be able to pull it off, but then one night I
turned on CSI Miami and saw David Caruso! Boom!! It hit me! He was
like McGarrett!!. He had it nailed down pat. He doesn't have the
handsome features that Jack Lord had but he more then makes up for it
by his performance.
I don't think he has a chance of making the cut for the movie which is
a real shame, because he really could do the part, but when I saw your
post, I had to reply because it has been on my mind ever since I have
been watching CSI Miami!
McGarrett
Chester Barzal
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I think that David Caruso failed as a tough-guy film actor because his
orange hair and milky complexion makes him look too freaky -kind of the
villains in the BATMAN films.
>
Mike O'Sullivan
> ---------------------------
> I think that David Caruso failed as a tough-guy film actor because his
> orange hair and milky complexion makes him look too freaky -kind of the
> villains in the BATMAN films.
He's just too weedy for a tough guy, with his scrawny neck.
ANIM8Rfsk
<< I think that David Caruso failed as a tough-guy film actor because his
orange hair and milky complexion makes him look too freaky -kind of the
villains in the BATMAN films. >>
And let's not forget the whole 'he's a lousy actor and the only decent dialog
he ever delivered was in Hudson Hawk' factor.
I mean "GirelliWhatWhereI'mOnMyWay'
Sheesh
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theresa
ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
>
> << From: "Chester Barzal" ches...@cogeco.ca >>
>
> << I think that David Caruso failed as a tough-guy film actor because his
> orange hair and milky complexion makes him look too freaky -kind of the
> villains in the BATMAN films. >>
>
> And let's not forget the whole 'he's a lousy actor and the only decent dialog
> he ever delivered was in Hudson Hawk' factor.
>
> I mean "GirelliWhatWhereI'mOnMyWay'
>
> Sheesh
I remember they thied to make Red Buttons into a dashing
action star for one movie. Red hair on tough guys doesn't
work unless the writer is skilled at irony and surprise
twists...
Stephen Cooke
On 29 Dec 2004 art...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Red hair hasn't hurt Julianne Moore's film career, either.
Especially in Short Cuts.
swac