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War and Peace (1956) Did it Have Intermission Music?

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Greg Shoemaker

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Feb 4, 2003, 5:37:55 PM2/4/03
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Purchased WAR AND PEACE on DVD. In spite of the picture's length, no
intermission title/intermission music was included. Did the film
indeed have an intermission with music? Overture or exit/walk out
music? Many film titles have had this music restored on their tape or
laser disc incarnations only to have it removed for the DVD release,
so not having seen WAR AND PEACE in its original theatrical
engagement, or in any home video version, I was wondering about this.
Thanks.

Greg

HardTicket

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Feb 7, 2003, 5:24:59 AM2/7/03
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Never saw "W and P" as a reserved seater, but the soundtrack includes a
"prelude." This suggests the probability of an overture, an entr'acte, and exit
music. The reviews on the new DVD have been mixed, with no comments about any
exclusion of score.

cr

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Feb 7, 2003, 2:08:06 PM2/7/03
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hardt...@aol.com (HardTicket) wrote in message news:<20030207052459...@mb-fv.aol.com>...

I saw the movie only in a small town presentation, so I can't answer the
question about additional music.

But having had the soundtrack LP for decades, and having seen the VHS
tapes, I can tell you for certain that what is called the 'Prelude' is
a combination of the main title music and the first scene of the movie,
a Moscow parade.

This scene is not in the book, which I think is sad, that King Vidor did
not see fit to at least begin the movie the way the book began.

-cr

David Matthews

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Feb 7, 2003, 2:27:27 PM2/7/03
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"cr" <os...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Not to everyone's taste I guess but the 7hr Russian 1968 version is the one
to see for a faithful rendition of the book. It's settings, the scenes of
the aristocrats lavish life style and it's depictions of the battles, make
the King Vidor version look like a TV movie. (The boar hunting scene is a
classic).

Dave


cr

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Feb 8, 2003, 12:27:26 PM2/8/03
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"David Matthews" <dmatt...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<HNT0a.4779$Pg6.1...@news20.bellglobal.com>...

> Not to everyone's taste I guess but the 7hr Russian 1968 version is the one
> to see for a faithful rendition of the book. It's settings, the scenes of
> the aristocrats lavish life style and it's depictions of the battles, make
> the King Vidor version look like a TV movie. (The boar hunting scene is a
> classic).
> Dave

Agreed. Much more faithful to the book, and unbelievably spectacular. I
wonder if there is a DVD set of the 1968 version yet?

One crazy thing about the Vidor version, it seems to me, was the casting of
Henry Fonda as Pierre. Though Fonda has done great things, he was just
totally unbelievable as that character.

-cr

Ralph Benner

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Feb 8, 2003, 6:42:42 PM2/8/03
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A 403 minute version of the Russian "War and Peace" was released in October,
2002. Other versions of the same production have also been sold; go to ebay to
see what's available.


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cr

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Feb 10, 2003, 10:46:02 AM2/10/03
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nowrev...@aol.com (Ralph Benner) wrote in message news:<20030208184242...@mb-cf.aol.com>...

> A 403 minute version of the Russian "War and Peace" was released in October,
> 2002. Other versions of the same production have also been sold; go to ebay to
> see what's available.

That's 6 hr 43 min. I believe there was a much longer TV miniseries in the
70s or 80s, but I don't know anything about it. Though the 1967 production is
much more faithful to the book than the 1955 Italian-made version, it still
leaves out a huge amount of good stuff.

It seems to me that long books like War and Peace, Gone with the Wind,
Atlas Shrugged, and The Lord of the Rings all would be better served by
the TV miniseries treatment, because then the books could be filmed in their
entirety. The butchering required by theatrical movies is always a
negative. Three of the above four are good examples of the carnage, and the
other one, Atlas Shrugged, hasn't been filmed yet.

-cr

sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il

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Feb 10, 2003, 12:10:50 PM2/10/03
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In article <22680de.03021...@posting.google.com>, cr <os...@netscape.net> wrote:

: That's 6 hr 43 min. I believe there was a much longer TV miniseries in the

: 70s or 80s, but I don't know anything about it.

It was a BBC production, from somewhere around 1973-1975. Anthony "Hannibal
Lecter" Hopkins played Pierre. It's been some 30 years since I saw it, but
as I recall, it was pretty good. But then again, I saw it before I had
read the novel, so I don't know how annoying I'd find its departures from
the original if I watched it today.

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how...@brazee.net

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Feb 10, 2003, 9:49:04 PM2/10/03
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On 10-Feb-2003, os...@netscape.net (cr) wrote:

> It seems to me that long books like War and Peace, Gone with the Wind,
> Atlas Shrugged, and The Lord of the Rings all would be better served by
> the TV miniseries treatment, because then the books could be filmed in
> their
> entirety. The butchering required by theatrical movies is always a
> negative. Three of the above four are good examples of the carnage, and
> the
> other one, Atlas Shrugged, hasn't been filmed yet.

Even good productions such as the recent Nicholas Nickleby are irritating
for what is left out.

Joseph Vitale

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Feb 11, 2003, 8:48:08 PM2/11/03
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greg.sh...@metzgers.com (Greg Shoemaker) wrote in
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The 1968 Russian blockbuster War and Peace has been released on three DVD's
by Kultur. It's an average/good full screen version transfer of a good
print. However, this great picture is due for a restored widescreen reissue
of the original 70 millimeter.

JV

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