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swede

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May 6, 2002, 11:58:13 PM5/6/02
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Just caught Ocean's 11 with the rat pack on dish and I don't get a line of
the song that Sammy sings in his first scene and at the very end- "ee oh
eleven"

Am I missing something? What does it mean? Am I hearing it right?

Ee oh eleven.

The five notes in the song that go with these words are played again and
again like a theme throughout the movie.

Any help?

David Matthews

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May 7, 2002, 3:35:59 AM5/7/02
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"swede" <poker...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I think it's actually "O EE Eleven".

In the gambling game of craps the two most important numbers are seven and
eleven. In the bedlam that is a typical Las Vegas casino the seven and
eleven were often misheard. The "O EE Eleven" is the stickman's cry when an
eleven comes up.
to make sure there is no confusion.

Dave


Tabbledabbs

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May 7, 2002, 6:54:32 AM5/7/02
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Ah, but I must beg to differ.

The song is "Eee-Oh Eleven" written by Sammy Cahn and Jimmy Van Huesen. It's
a plaintive nod to the gambler's life, as sung by our noble Garbageman
(Sammy D Jr.), and here are the lyrics:

Eee- o - Eleven
CD: Sammy & Friends
Composer: Sammy Cahn/ James Van Heusen
Date: 8/60

One day I'll have me a
chauffeur... and a block long limousine
Eee-o-Eleven.
Eee-o-Eleven.

Someday I'll have me a penthouse.
Stacks and stacks of folding green.
Eee-o-Eleven.
Eee-o-Eleven.

It's all a state of mind.
Whether or not you'll fine.
That place down there or heaven.
In the meantime.
Eee-o Eee -o
Eee - o- Eleven.
Eee- o - Eleven.
Eee- o -Eleven.

Show me a man without a dream.
And I'll show you a man that's dead.
Real Dead.

Once I had me a dream.
But that dream got kicked in the head.
Dream dead.

I nearly had me that chauffeur
And that block long limousine.
Eee-o-Eleven
Eee-o-Eleven

I nearly had me that penthouse.
All them stacks of folding green.
Eee-o-Eleven
Eleven.

Some Judge is gonna say.
I'm putting you away.
For four score years add seven.
In the meantime.
Eee-o-Eleven
Eee-o-Eleven

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swede

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May 7, 2002, 4:09:59 PM5/7/02
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Tabbledabbs and David-

Thanks guys! That one went over my head...

Swede

in article InOB8.1433$Ok3.1...@news1.news.adelphia.net, Tabbledabbs at
tdab...@adelphia.net wrote on 5/7/02 5:54 AM:

Brent McKee

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May 8, 2002, 3:18:32 AM5/8/02
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David Matthews <dmatt...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Sammy sings EE O Eleven. I have the DVD.

Since I'm not a craps player (you can't do that in Canada ... legally) and
my dictionaries aren't big on gambling slang I can't find a reference for
this, but I believe the phrase "Ocean's Eleven" also refers to throwing an
eleven.

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David Matthews

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May 8, 2002, 5:21:48 AM5/8/02
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> > I think it's actually "O EE Eleven".
> >
> > In the gambling game of craps the two most important numbers are seven
> and
> > eleven. In the bedlam that is a typical Las Vegas casino the seven and
> > eleven were often misheard. The "O EE Eleven" is the stickman's cry
when
> an
> > eleven comes up.
> > to make sure there is no confusion

.
>
> Sammy sings EE O Eleven. I have the DVD.
>
> Since I'm not a craps player (you can't do that in Canada ... legally) and
> my dictionaries aren't big on gambling slang I can't find a reference for
> this, but I believe the phrase "Ocean's Eleven" also refers to throwing an
> eleven.
>
> --
> Brent McKee

>

Not too sure about anything here. It's been a long time since I've been to
Las Vegas or seen the Sammy Davis version of "Ocean's Eleven" but I always
understood that either O EE Eleven or EE O Eleven was the stickman's cry to
differentiate between Seven and Eleven. I can't say that I've ever heard
that "Ocean's Eleven" referred to throwing an eleven but it would certainly
explain the title which doesn't make much sense otherwise. I believe also
that craps is now legal in at least one casino in Canada. Orillia maybe?
Perhaps some experienced (Canadian) gambler could clear this up.

Dave


Bob

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May 8, 2002, 10:02:27 AM5/8/02
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David Matthews wrote:

You are correct about the stickman's cry.
In the original film, count the members of the gang.
Bob

Brent McKee

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May 10, 2002, 5:21:55 AM5/10/02
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Bob <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> You are correct about the stickman's cry.
> In the original film, count the members of the gang.

Oh I am quite aware of the significance of the number of members in the
gang. My question, I suppose, is directed more at the author of the book
upon which the movies are based (loosely). You will admit Bob that the
surname "Ocean" is not exactly common. Therefore one would presume that
there is a reason why the author would name the leader of the gang "Danny
Ocean" and why he would have eleven members of the gang. "Logic" (if one
can apply logic to the creation of the title of a book) declares that the
name would be recognisable to the intended audience and would have some ties
to the subject of the book -- gambling and/or Las Vegas. And I do recall
hearing the expression "ocean's eleven" somewhere else in connection with a
craps game, although for the life of me I can't recall where. Next time I
get a chance I'll have to consult a book of slang expressions.

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