Capra's "Riding High" - contains up to 30% new footage!
Stacia
"Broadway Bill", and was shocked to see so much re-used footage from
the original 1934 film. Actors like Charles Lane and Ward Bond
appeared in both the old and new footage, making the difference even
more obvious. Completely insane. I didn't catch the intro, but in
the outro Bob Osborne only mentioned the re-used racing footage. Why
hasn't more been made about the fact that "Riding High" is just
"Broadway Bill" with some new footage added in?
Stacia
Bill Anderson
Scandalous for sure, but it hardly rivals our excitement over the return
of the Avocado Avenger!
--
Bill Anderson
I am the Mighty Favog
TBerk
The other way around; Riding High is a remake that reuses _some_ of
the original footage. Did ya watch both films back to back?
berk
Stacia
> The other way around; Riding High is a remake that reuses _some_ of
> the original footage. Did ya watch both films back to back?
>
> berk
I know it uses some, my "30% new" comment in the subject line was
snark. It still used a LOT of footage from the 1934 movie though.
Now that I know this, I'm looking to get both films so I can do a
comparison. I have no copy of "Broadway Bill", but I did see it a few
years ago. If I'd known "Riding High" used so much of the original
movie, I'd have recorded it.
Stacia
Kingo Gondo
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David Oberman
I don't know anything about that movie, but welcome back to the sushi
bar! Try some of this hamachi. It's excellent.
A few of the guys are still pelting one another with edamame beans,
but we're still here!
_______
If you think you're a person of influence,
try ordering somebody else's dog around.
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Madara0806
Yeah, I watched them within a short time of each other and was
surprised at how many of the original actors they got to reprise their
roles some 16 years later, including Clarence Muse, who has a rather
large role in each. I counted them, and I seem to recall it was 8 or
something. At least one of the actors featured in the original footage
re-used in the remake, Forrester Harvey, had been dead a few years by
the time RIDING HIGH was made.
I remember disliking BROADWAY BILL intensely, because I found Warner
Baxter's character somewhat selfish and despicable. I don't recall how
I felt about the remake, distracted as I was by all the old footage.
Manny Farber hated RIDING HIGH and singled out Clarence Muse's "Sambo-
like" portrayal. In his autobiography, Capra singled out Farber's
review as "racist."
Jim Beaver
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>Manny Farber hated RIDING HIGH and singled out Clarence Muse's "Sambo-
>like" portrayal. In his autobiography, Capra singled out Farber's
>review as "racist."
Yeah. Nothing's as racist as pointing out racism.
steve
Hi Stacia.
My wife and I watched "Bill" and some of "High" and we were puzzled why
Capra would a. Remake the film, which was terrific and possibly his best,
and b. use Bing as the male lead in a part that just didnt suit him. Warner
Baxter and Myrna Loy (and she is sooo sexy in that film) had great chemestry
and Baxter is perfect as the assertive and slightly underhanded Dan. Bing
seemed out of place and ill suited to his part, especially when he was
involved in deception. Bob mentioned thet Capra didnt particularly like
"Broadway Bill". I dont get that at all.
steve
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"I've got a bomb in me pants!"
Wallace - A Matter of Loaf and Death
Stacia
> Yeah, I watched them within a short time of each other and was
> surprised at how many of the original actors they got to reprise their
> roles some 16 years later, including Clarence Muse, who has a rather
> large role in each. I counted them, and I seem to recall it was 8 or
> something.
It was a lot, I could tell even though I didn't see the whole movie.
I noticed Bond and Lane the most because their faces were so different
in the 1934 footage compared with the 1950 footage. Ward Bond in
particular looked to have had a rough 16 years in the interim.
> Manny Farber hated RIDING HIGH and singled out Clarence Muse's "Sambo-
> like" portrayal. In his autobiography, Capra singled out Farber's
> review as "racist."
Did Farber single out Muse himself or Capra's direction of Muse? I
couldn't find anything online except Farber's comments about the film
in his book "Negative Space", which doesn't mention Muse at all.
Muse was not in a position to do what he wanted, he had to do what the
director told him to; all actors of color had to play to racism in
that time, it was either that or not work. Capra called the character
"Whitey" for a reason -- he wanted a Sambo-esque character.
Which means that Capra may have ironically been right when he said it
was wrong to single out Muse. Farber should have directed his ire to
Capra, not Muse.
In "Cabin in the Cotton", Muse delivers a line about "the great glory
of the white man" in a way that sounds more like sarcasm than praise.
Incidental, but I thought I'd mention it.
Stacia
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Stone me.
Kingo Gondo
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It is not any secret that Capra was a douche-bag. That I just put aside.
It's his crappy movies that annoy me more.
David Oberman
<kingo_nos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>It is not any secret that Capra was a douche-bag. That I just put aside.
>It's his crappy movies that annoy me more.
Did he do PLATINUM BLONDE in 1931? Did you like that? Robert Williams
was more fun onscreen than Lee Tracy was!
Kingo Gondo
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I did see that, but long ago. My memory of it is faint. In general, the
earlier the better with Capra. If I never saw any of his 40s and beyond
films again, that would suit me fine. Mr. Smith is possibly the worst film
they repeatedly show on TCM. It is unendurable.
Still have "Bitter Tea" on the DVR. Almost watched it last night but went
with Closely Watched Trains instead.
David Oberman
<kingo_nos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>It is not any secret that Capra was a douche-bag. That I just put aside.
>>>It's his crappy movies that annoy me more.
>>
>> Did he do PLATINUM BLONDE in 1931? Did you like that? Robert Williams
>> was more fun onscreen than Lee Tracy was!
>
>I did see that, but long ago. My memory of it is faint. In general, the
>earlier the better with Capra. If I never saw any of his 40s and beyond
>films again, that would suit me fine.
Similar situation with George Stevens. The later they get, the worse
they get. But they started excellently.
Bill Anderson
I for one did not like it at all. I thought I would, I thought I
should, but I didn't. Don't remember the exact details now, but I seem
to recall my distaste stemmed from watching the main character (Robert
Williams who died young) enter into a deceitful marriage with Jean
Harlow. Big disappointment.
Kingo Gondo
I have even a bigger handicap--Jean Harlow doesn't do much for me, I'm
afraid. She always struck me as ignorant and unclean, two huge turnoffs (I
have no idea if she was either). I don't have a white trash fetish.
I do like her in some roles (Red Dust comes to mind), but overall she just
doesn't do it for me sexually, which is all she ever had going for her, IMO.
No one ever claimed Harlow was a great actress (or if they did, they're
nuts). Now Barbara Stanwyck...woo woo woo! One of my all time favs. The best
thing Capra ever did was work with her.
william
wrote:
Now Barbara Stanwyck...woo woo woo! One of my all time favs. The best
> thing Capra ever did was work with her.
Check out "Jeopardy" if you haven't seen it. Nice piece of work and an
interesting flick. Sorry for the thread drift aside.
William
www.williamahearn.com
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REPLY:
I did see this. I like to imagine a non-Production Code version directed by
Peckinpah, with a slightly younger Stanwyck. (Yes, time travel would be
required to pull this all together, but play along). Talk about your
MILFs....
Oh, sorry...I'll have to stay seated for a while.
TBerk
Well, the TCM host at the time of broadcast (they were played back to
back btw) mentioned Capra being unhappy about hte lead actor in the
early one as some one who was afraid of horses and Bing Crosby being
the opposite.
I really liked the early Myrna Loy, in fact I really like the later
Myrna Loy- I think I like all Myrna Loy for that matter.
The funny part about the remake was the more easily identifiable may/
December matchup between the Bing character and the youngest sister
who worshiped him, unrequitedly.
Oh, the TCM host also mentioned the re-used footage was primarily the
racing stuff.
berk
steve
On 31-Dec-2009, TBerk <bayar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, the TCM host at the time of broadcast (they were played back to
> back btw) mentioned Capra being unhappy about hte lead actor in the
> early one as some one who was afraid of horses and Bing Crosby being
> the opposite.
Yes...I thought that was odd given that actors are routinely not what they
are asked to portray. The fear sure didnt show on screen.
> I really liked the early Myrna Loy, in fact I really like the later
> Myrna Loy- I think I like all Myrna Loy for that matter.
She was terrific, alright.
Kingo Gondo
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> On 31-Dec-2009, TBerk <bayar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, the TCM host at the time of broadcast (they were played back to
>> back btw) mentioned Capra being unhappy about hte lead actor in the
>> early one as some one who was afraid of horses and Bing Crosby being
>> the opposite.
>
> Yes...I thought that was odd given that actors are routinely not what they
> are asked to portray. The fear sure didnt show on screen.
>
>> I really liked the early Myrna Loy, in fact I really like the later
>> Myrna Loy- I think I like all Myrna Loy for that matter.
>
> She was terrific, alright.
Wow, steve has fallen for a lefty broad.