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Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

Steve McDonald

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osbo...@netrover.com (Osborne) wrote:

>Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

I thought "Angels and Insects" was a really great
movie with incest AND insects AND a shocker of
an ending.

If you've never been there researching movies, by
all means try the Internet Movie Database at...

http://us.imdb.com/

Le Samourai

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The Passion of Beatrice (aka La Passion Beatrice), a French flick from
the late '80's, has a very strong and disturbing incest theme between
father and unwilling daughter. You also get to see Julie Delpy buck
naked a lot, which in my opinion makes this film a masterpiece!

lewis angel

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Osborne wrote:
>
> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

Here's a few:
HOUSE OF YES, THE, 1997
THIS WORLD, THEN THE FIREWORKS, 1997
THOUSAND ACRES, A, 1997
U TURN, 1997
FLIRTING WITH DISASTER, 1996
TROMEO AND JULIET, 1996
WIDOW'S KISS, 1996
ELECTRA, 1995
HAUNTED, 1995
INNOCENT LIES, 1995
MALICIOUS, 1995
ROSEANNE: AN UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY, 1995
TWISTED LOVE, 1995
AUDITIONS, 1994
DEADLY MARIA, 1994
GETTING OUT, 1994
LAST RIDE, THE, 1994
MIDNIGHT TEASE, 1994
MY FATHER, THE HERO, 1994
PRIEST, 1994
RAW JUSTICE, 1994
RISK, 1994
SAVE ME, 1994
SIOUX CITY, 1994
SPANKING THE MONKEY, 1994
FATAL JUSTICE, 1993
MA SAISON PREFEREE, 1993
BLACKBELT, 1992
CEMENT GARDEN, THE, 1992
EXILED IN AMERICA, 1992
HOMICIDAL IMPULSE, 1992
ILLUSIONS, 1992
OLIVIER, OLIVIER, 1992
PLAY NICE, 1992
WATERLAND, 1992
CLOSE MY EYES, 1991
VOYAGER, 1991
HENRY: PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER, 1989
BLACKOUT, 1988
DECALOGUE 4: HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER, 1988
SAXO, 1988
TEARS IN THE RAIN, 1988
TIGER WARSAW, 1988
FLOWERS IN THE ATTIC, 1987
GOTHIC, 1987
BAR 51--SISTER OF LOVE, 1986
HAIL, MARY, 1985
BLAME IT ON RIO, 1984
HEART OF THE STAG, 1984
HOTEL NEW HAMPSHIRE, THE, 1984
SUBURBIA, 1984
AMITYVILLE II: THE POSSESSION, 1982
INVITATION AU VOYAGE, 1982
SUMMER'S CHILDREN, 1979
STAY AS YOU ARE, 1978
HAMLET, 1976
SCALPEL, 1976
HOUSE OF EXORCISM, THE, 1975
LET JOY REIGN SUPREME, 1975
OUT OF SEASON, 1975
CHINATOWN, 1974
SAVAGE IS LOOSE, THE, 1974
GLASS HOUSES, 1972
DONKEY SKIN, 1971
MURMUR OF THE HEART, 1971
KURAGEJIMA--LEGENDS FROM A SOUTHERN ISLAND, 1970
MY LOVER, MY SON, 1970
WILD SCENE, THE, 1970
SPIRITS OF THE DEAD, 1968
WOMAN OF DARKNESS, 1968
FIST IN HIS POCKET, 1966
HAWAII, 1966
LOLLIPOP, 1966
NIGHT GAMES, 1966
WHO KILLED TEDDY BEAR?, 1965
TOYS IN THE ATTIC, 1963
DESIRE IN THE DUST, 1960
SOUND AND THE FURY, THE, 1959
LES ENFANTS TERRIBLES, 1950
UNCLE HARRY, 1945
CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY, 1944
LAND WITHOUT BREAD, 1932
SCARFACE, 1932

--
Lewis Angel

"Well, we don't consider her catatonic.
We just kinda consider her quiet". Manhattan 1972

Jay Rosenberg

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> > osbo...@netrover.com (Osborne) wrote:
> >
> > >Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

...
Chinatown is an obvious one. Obession gets awfully close.

---Jay

Richard Wall

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Peyton Place

lewis angel

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mack twamley wrote:

> SPOILER ALERT ---------------- DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU!
> 0
> 0
> 0
> 0
> 0
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> perhaps some unintentional incest in Lone Star 1996.

Curses! How could I miss this one? I just watched it. My dotage is
complete. Anyway, it was a great movie, wasn't it.

ellis

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Osborne wrote:
>
> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

Lone Star. Ooops . Ruined the movie for you.

Frida

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Jay Rosenberg wrote:

>
> > > osbo...@netrover.com (Osborne) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

> ...
> Chinatown is an obvious one. Obession gets awfully close.
>
> ---Jay

The Sweet Hereafter. Cold Comfort. Dead Ringers. Canada Rules!!!
F.

Rufie710

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In article <01bcd79e$6d26df80$7f3b9bcf@default>, "mack twamley"
<mack...@inland.net> wrote:

> As I've always said about incest, it's all right.....as long as you keep it
> in the family.

"Oedipus, shmedipus, as long as you love your mother...."

and then there is the great Tom Lehrer song the name of which escapes me.
Ruth ( the fact that I remembr Tom Lehrer explains why my memory is lousy)

--
rufie710
"I tried Reality once, I found it too confining"

Rufie710

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In article <34413f6...@news.netrover.com>, osbo...@netrover.com
(Osborne) wrote:

> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

"Lone Star"

Rufie710

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In article <01bcd781$f67447e0$973b9bcf@default>, "mack twamley"
<mack...@inland.net> wrote:

> > --
> > Lewis Angel
> 333333333333333333333333333333333
> You bet it was great. And one of the things I especially appreciated about
> it were the scene changes from present to past and back again.
> I don't think I've seen such marvelous transitions in a film since - going
> back a long way - The Ballad of the Narayama (about 1960, Japan) where the
> scenes changed as artfully. cheeers mt

Lone Star is , IMHO, one of the great films of the past 20 years.

mack twamley

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lewis angel <"angellc@angellc"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote in
article <61rkip$e...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...

> Osborne wrote:
> >
> > Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
>

> Here's a few:
SNIP--------

mack twamley

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lewis angel <"angellc@angellc"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote in

article <61s0sp$p...@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net>...

> mack twamley wrote:
>
> Curses! How could I miss this one? I just watched it. My dotage is
> complete. Anyway, it was a great movie, wasn't it.

Diana1138

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Spoiler
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
"An Awfully Big Adventure" or something. It featured Hugh Grant and Alan
Rickman. I think that's what it was called.

-diana

t.cruise

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On 13 Oct 1997 02:48:43 GMT, "mack twamley" <mack...@inland.net>
wrote:

>
>
>lewis angel <"angellc@angellc"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>article <61s0sp$p...@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>> mack twamley wrote:
>>
>> Curses! How could I miss this one? I just watched it. My dotage is
>> complete. Anyway, it was a great movie, wasn't it.
>> --
>> Lewis Angel
>333333333333333333333333333333333
>You bet it was great. And one of the things I especially appreciated about
>it were the scene changes from present to past and back again.

I liked "Lone Star" very much. Sayles is an underrated director. His
films do well at the box office, because they are not formula movies.
I also liked his "City of Hope."

T.Cruise

X-Nico

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lewis angel wrote:
>
> Osborne wrote:
> >
> > Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
>
> Here's a few:

(huge list snipped reverently)

>
> --
> Lewis Angel
>
> "Well, we don't consider her catatonic.
> We just kinda consider her quiet". Manhattan 1972

Jeez, I'm impressed... So, how's your mom?

mack twamley

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James Mulligan

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In article <344188...@home.com>, ell...@home.com wrote:

> Osborne wrote:
> >
> > Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

Angels and Insects
and of course Star Wars.

--
"There are no problems in nature." - George Santayana

Jim Mulligan Oahu, Hawai'i mul...@aloha.net
To Reply via email remove the characters "deletethis" from my address

terry w. luster

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In article <61rkip$e...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,

lewis angel <"angellc@angellc"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Osborne wrote:
>>
>> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
>

>--
>Lewis Angel
>
>"Well, we don't consider her catatonic.
> We just kinda consider her quiet". Manhattan 1972

THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.
T.Luster

terry w. luster

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In article <34413f6...@news.netrover.com>,

Osborne <osbo...@netrover.com> wrote:
>Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

THE VIRGIN WIFE-1976 with Edwige Fenech and Carol Baker
BUTTERFLY with Pia Zadora and Stacey Keach
FLESH FOR FRANKENSTEIN with Udo Kier and Monique Von Voreen
THE POSSESSOR-1976 sleazy Italian Exorcist clone
AMERICAN NIGHTMARE-1981 Canadian murder mystery
T.Luster

lewis angel

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t.cruise wrote:
>
>
> I liked "Lone Star" very much. Sayles is an underrated director. His
> films do well at the box office, because they are not formula movies.
> I also liked his "City of Hope."
>
> T.Cruise

Sayles has long been one of my favorite screenwriters/directors. Have
you ever seen Return of the Secaucus Seven? This was one of his first
movies and is often compared favorably to The Big Chill.

FRAJM

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>Have
>you ever seen Return of the Secaucus Seven? This was one of his first
>movies and is often compared favorably to The Big Chill.
>--
>Lewis Angel

_The Big Chill_ was made three years after _Secaucus 7_ and clearly ripped off
the story and Sayles. To say the Sayles film "compares favorably to" the
Kasdan film is definitely a case of putting the cart before the horse.

Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
http://members.aol.com/frajm/frankm.htm
"All over the room throats were being strained and minds broadened."
-- P. G. Wodehouse, Piccadilly Jim

FRAJM

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I'm need help remembering the title of a Swiss movie made in the late 80s or
early 90s with a brother-sister relationship. They're trying to survive on
their isolated farm after their parents die. There may be foul play, too.

Thanks.

lewis angel

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-- terry w. luster wrote:
>

>
> THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
> Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.
> T.Luster

Here is a review of Blame it on Rio found in The Movie Guide copywrited
by Cinemania:

(The "p" word is disguised to prevent those scum from invading the NG.)

This queasy sex comedy follows two middle-aged men (Michael Caine and
Joseph
Bologna) who spend a month to Rio with their two nubile daughters (Demi
Moore and
Michelle Johnson). Caine's wife (Valerie Harper) pulls out of the trip,
saying she wants to think about their marriage, and then spends a month
at Club Med. Once in Rio, Bologna, who is going through a messy
divorce, heads for the city's nightlife to chase women. Caine is less
than enthusiastic about this but soon finds he's being seduced by his
friend's daughter. At this point BLAME IT ON RIO turns into a most
uncomfortable film, leeringly depicting an affair with decidely icky
undertones of incest and p__ophilia. Between gratuitous (if titillating)
nude scenes and a succession of lame soundtrack songs, there are plenty
of travelogue shots to pad out the thin narrative line. Caine looks
embarrassed through the entire film, as well he might.

Jay

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Osborne wrote:
>
> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

King's Row

Steve Hilby

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Rufie710 wrote:
>
> In article <01bcd79e$6d26df80$7f3b9bcf@default>, "mack twamley"

> <mack...@inland.net> wrote:
>
> > As I've always said about incest, it's all right.....as long as you keep it
> > in the family.
>

> "Oedipus, shmedipus, as long as you love your mother...."
>
> and then there is the great Tom Lehrer song the name of which escapes me.
> Ruth ( the fact that I remembr Tom Lehrer explains why my memory is lousy)
>

> --
> rufie710
> "I tried Reality once, I found it too confining"

It's called, not surprisingly, "Oedipus Rex". "There once was a man
named Oedipus Rex/You may have heard about his odd complex/His name
appears in Freud's index/'Cause he loved his mother..

Steve

lewis angel

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> ts...@midway.uchicago.edu (terry w. luster) wrote:
>
> > THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
> > Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.
> > T.Luster

Following is a quote from a review of Blame It On Rio found in The Movie
Guide copyrighted by Cinemania:

> At this point BLAME IT ON RIO turns into a most

> uncomfortable film, leeringly depicting an affair with decidely icky > undertones of incest and pedophilia.

Lewis Angel
(Sorry if this posts more than once; I'm having trouble with my
browser.)

Phil

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Osborne wrote:
>
> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

The Unseen has a great "product of incest" subplot.

Phil

lewis angel

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> ts...@midway.uchicago.edu (terry w. luster) wrote:
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> > THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
> > Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.

terry w. luster wrote:
>
> > THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
> > Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.
> > T.Luster
>

Attached (I hope) is a review found in The Movie Guide, copyrighted by
Cinemania.

Lewis Angel
"Well, we don't consider her catatonic.
We just kinda consider her quiet". Manhattan 1972

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lewis angel

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> ts...@midway.uchicago.edu (terry w. luster) wrote:
>
> > THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
> > Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.

> > T.Luster
>

Here's a review from The Movie Guide copyrighted by Cinemania:

This queasy sex comedy follows two middle-aged men (Michael Caine and
Joseph
Bologna) who spend a month to Rio with their two nubile daughters (Demi
Moore and
Michelle Johnson). Caine's wife (Valerie Harper) pulls out of the trip,
saying she wants

to think about their marriage, and then spends a month at Club Med. Once
in Rio,

Bologna, who is going through a messy divorce, heads for the city's
nightlife to chase
women. Caine is less than enthusiastic about this but soon finds he's
being seduced
by his friend's daughter. At this point BLAME IT ON RIO turns into a
most
uncomfortable film, leeringly depicting an affair with decidely icky
undertones of incest and pedophilia. Between gratuitous (if titillating)
nude scenes and a succession of lame soundtrack songs, there are plenty
of travelogue shots to pad out the thin narrative line. Caine looks

embarrassed through the entire film, as well he might.

--

chakravorty bonnie jean

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Oct 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/13/97

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Jenny is sexually abused by her father in Forrest Gump

Stuart's AA sponsor (Stuart Saves His Family) is traumitized when her
long-lost biological father "makes a pass at her" after their first
meeting

Vixen and her brother (Russ Meyer's Vixen) engage in a consensual
sexual relationship

Scott Promish

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Oct 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/13/97

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In article <34423E...@earthlink.net>, phil...@earthlink.net says...

>
>Osborne wrote:
>>
>> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
>
>The Unseen has a great "product of incest" subplot.

I just rented FUN, in which a girl describes being raped by her dad, and her
friend tells her she had sex with her brother.

Great film - and no, I'm not saying that because of the above. ;)
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Rufie710

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Oct 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/13/97

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In article <19971013175...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, fr...@aol.com
(FRAJM) wrote:

> I'm need help remembering the title of a Swiss movie made in the late 80s or
> early 90s with a brother-sister relationship. They're trying to survive on
> their isolated farm after their parents die. There may be foul play, too.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

chickens??? yuuccch. goats, maybe.......

webm...@film.tierranet.com

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Oct 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/13/97

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Osborne wrote:
>
> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

U-Turn

peter krynicki

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Oct 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/13/97

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mack twamley wrote:
>
> You bet it was great. And one of the things I especially appreciated about
> it were the scene changes from present to past and back again.

> I don't think I've seen such marvelous transitions in a film since - going
> back a long way - The Ballad of the Narayama (about 1960, Japan) where the
> scenes changed as artfully. cheeers mt

But what about Dead Again. If I remember correctly, not only do the
scenes change but they change from color to black-and-white and it just
seemes natural.

Pjk

Catty

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

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ts...@midway.uchicago.edu (terry w. luster) wrote:

> THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
> Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.
> T.Luster

Phew! I did think that when I saw the title in the list, but since I
haven't seen the film for yonks, I wasn't sure.

What about that film by Barbra Streadful - NUTS?

Catty

Remove x from the email address if you wish to email moi.

Catty

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fr...@aol.com (FRAJM) wrote:

>I'm need help remembering the title of a Swiss movie made in the late 80s or
> early 90s with a brother-sister relationship. They're trying to survive on
> their isolated farm after their parents die. There may be foul play, too.

If the brother was deaf, then it has to be Alpine Fire.

(Mind you, I may have misspelt the Alpine word).

terry w. luster

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

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In article <61tdgu$s...@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net>,

lewis angel <"angellc@angellc"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>-- terry w. luster wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
>> Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.
>> T.Luster
>

>Here is a review of Blame it on Rio found in The Movie Guide copywrited
>by Cinemania:
>
>(The "p" word is disguised to prevent those scum from invading the NG.)
>

>This queasy sex comedy follows two middle-aged men (Michael Caine and
>Joseph
>Bologna) who spend a month to Rio with their two nubile daughters (Demi
>Moore and
>Michelle Johnson). Caine's wife (Valerie Harper) pulls out of the trip,
>saying she wants to think about their marriage, and then spends a month
>at Club Med. Once in Rio, Bologna, who is going through a messy
>divorce, heads for the city's nightlife to chase women. Caine is less
>than enthusiastic about this but soon finds he's being seduced by his
>friend's daughter. At this point BLAME IT ON RIO turns into a most
>uncomfortable film, leeringly depicting an affair with decidely icky

>undertones of incest and p__ophilia. Between gratuitous (if titillating)

>nude scenes and a succession of lame soundtrack songs, there are plenty
>of travelogue shots to pad out the thin narrative line. Caine looks
>embarrassed through the entire film, as well he might.
>

>Lewis Angel
>
>"Well, we don't consider her catatonic.
> We just kinda consider her quiet". Manhattan 1972

Oh you're a real winner,quoting a damn review?
I own the tape,and there is no incest in this film.
Ever see actress Michelle Johnson?
Nothing to be embarrassed about there,she's beautiful.
T.Luster

alan burnett

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

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La Luna (d Bertolucci) springs to mind. It featured a mother/son
relationship. And also a film which starred Stacy Keach and Pia
Zadora featuring a father/daughter relationship which may have
been more suggested than actual. The title escapes me.

rsw

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

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Phil wrote:
>
> Osborne wrote:
> >
> > Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
>

> The Unseen has a great "product of incest" subplot.
>

> Phil
1979, Luna with Jill Clayburgh, mother and son.

Catty

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

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alan burnett <10166...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:

> And also a film which starred Stacy Keach and Pia
>Zadora featuring a father/daughter relationship which may have
>been more suggested than actual. The title escapes me.

Oh, my god. Now that is what I call a really *crap* film. I don't
*even* want to remember the title of that awful film. You are
so brave for remembering it. My hat off to you.

Genocide

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

to Rufie710

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Rufie710 wrote:

> > Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
>

> "Lone Star"

Ack! You forgot the most in your face one... "Pink Flamingo"!!!
Bleh...

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lewis angel wrote:

>
> > ts...@midway.uchicago.edu (terry w. luster) wrote:
> >
> > > THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
> > > Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.
> > > T.Luster
> >
>

> Here's a review from The Movie Guide copyrighted by Cinemania:
>

> This queasy sex comedy follows two middle-aged men (Michael Caine and
> Joseph
> Bologna) who spend a month to Rio with their two nubile daughters (Demi
> Moore and
> Michelle Johnson). Caine's wife (Valerie Harper) pulls out of the trip,
> saying she wants
> to think about their marriage, and then spends a month at Club Med. Once
> in Rio,
> Bologna, who is going through a messy divorce, heads for the city's
> nightlife to chase
> women. Caine is less than enthusiastic about this but soon finds he's
> being seduced
> by his friend's daughter. At this point BLAME IT ON RIO turns into a
> most
> uncomfortable film, leeringly depicting an affair with decidely icky

> undertones of incest and pedophilia. Between gratuitous (if titillating)

> nude scenes and a succession of lame soundtrack songs, there are plenty
> of travelogue shots to pad out the thin narrative line. Caine looks
> embarrassed through the entire film, as well he might.

Michelle Johnson must have one of the most embarrassing resumes around
of any actress, having starred in both BLAME IT ON RIO and SHOWGIRLS,
among many other turkeys. Anyway, any list of incest in films should
also include Buñuel's VIRIDIANA, and De Palma's nominal remake of
SCARFACE. Also, Pedro Almodovar's LAW OF DESIRE.
> --

FRAJM

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

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>fr...@aol.com (FRAJM) wrote:
>
>>I'm need help remembering the title of a Swiss movie made in the late 80s or
>> early 90s with a brother-sister relationship. They're trying to survive on
>> their isolated farm after their parents die. There may be foul play, too.
>
>If the brother was deaf, then it has to be Alpine Fire.
>
>(Mind you, I may have misspelt the Alpine word).
>
>Catty
>
>

Thank you, Catty, that's the one. The original title, I discover in the IMDb,
was _Hohenfeuer_ and was directed by Fredi M. Murer. It's a very dark,
powerful film.

Zar

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

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rsw <2r...@worldnet.att.net> skrev i artiklen
<344339...@worldnet.att.net>...
> Phil wrote:

> >
> > Osborne wrote:
> > >
> > > Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
> >

> > The Unseen has a great "product of incest" subplot.
> >
> > Phil
> 1979, Luna with Jill Clayburgh, mother and son.

There was a movie with Pia Zadora called Butterfly, I think. Pretty bad,
too.

Zar

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Russ Walter

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

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Lenona here.

You may think this ridiculous to mention, but I think it's good anyway.
"The Barretts of Wimpole Street" was made after the Hays Code took
effect, so only a keen moviegoer would notice anything, but, as Charles
Laughton said (he played Elizabeth Barrett's tyrannical father): "They
can't censor the gleam in the eye."

Phil Humpherys

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

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In article <34413f6...@news.netrover.com>, Osborne wrote:
>Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

"Chinatown" with Jack Nicholson and Faye Dunnaway comes to mind.

-pH

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97

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Osborne (osbo...@netrover.com) wrote:
: Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

Heart of Justice with Jennifer Connelly and Eric Stoltz.

Rich

Alric Knebel

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Oct 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/15/97

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In U TURN, there is a very heavy scene involving an incestuous
relationship between a father and daughter.

>osbo...@netrover.com (Osborne) wrote:

>Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

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Susan Rambus

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The Color Purple.

Osborne <osbo...@netrover.com> wrote in article
<34413f6...@news.netrover.com>...

Susan Rambus

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Close My Eyes (1991) - brother and sister.
Murmur of the Heart (1971) - mother & 14 yr old son.
Fist In His Pocket (1966) - brother and younger sister.
Flesh and Blood (1979)
Hawaii (1966) epic
Last Sunset (1961) Kirk Douglas
My Sister, My Love (1966) Sweedish, terrifying, & effective.
Olivier, Olivier (French 1992)
The Savage is Loose (1974) dumb. Mother/son after years stranded on
island.
Scarface (1932) brother/sister

Moloko

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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:22:03 GMT, osbo...@netrover.com (Osborne)
wrote:

>Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

"Edipo Re" is a truely great adaption of Sophocle's play by Pier Paolo
Pasolini.

Moloko

Mark Lafferty

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There was a film with Clive Owen, Saskia Reeves and Alan Rickman which
graphically depicted this...can't remember the name though. I think
Tears was in the title?

Catty

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ri...@fc.hp.com (Rich Johnson) wrote:

>Osborne (osbo...@netrover.com) wrote:
>: Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

>Heart of Justice with Jennifer Connelly and Eric Stoltz.

>Rich

Oooh, thanks for reminding me. Halcoyn (sic) Days (before the title
change), starring Gabrielle Anwar and Stephen Dorff as sister and
brother - I understand that there was an incestous tone between them
in the story. I haven't seen the film, so I may be wrong. Another
film - a Patsy Kensit film - what was the title? It was something like
Butterflies and Insects..

b-movie

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THE VICIOUS SWEET (www.b-movie.com)

webm...@film.tierranet.com wrote in article
<344293...@film.tierranet.com>...

> Osborne wrote:
> >
> > Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
>

> U-Turn
>

Jeffrey Davis

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Osborne wrote:
>
> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

The Cement Garden, the most claustraphobic novel
I've ever read, either has an incest theme or the
moviemakers punted very badly.

William E Ryan

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On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Catty wrote:

> a Patsy Kensit film - what was the title? It was something like
> Butterflies and Insects..
>
> Catty
>
>

Angels and Insects.

Bill

Ernesto Guiraldes

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Angels and Insects.

lewis angel ("angellc@angellc"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net) wrote:

> -- terry w. luster wrote:
> >

> >
> > THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
> > Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.
> > T.Luster

> Here is a review of Blame it on Rio found in The Movie Guide copywrited
> by Cinemania:

> (The "p" word is disguised to prevent those scum from invading the NG.)

> This queasy sex comedy follows two middle-aged men (Michael Caine and

> Joseph
> Bologna) who spend a month to Rio with their two nubile daughters (Demi
> Moore and
> Michelle Johnson). Caine's wife (Valerie Harper) pulls out of the trip,
> saying she wants to think about their marriage, and then spends a month
> at Club Med. Once in Rio, Bologna, who is going through a messy
> divorce, heads for the city's nightlife to chase women. Caine is less
> than enthusiastic about this but soon finds he's being seduced by his
> friend's daughter. At this point BLAME IT ON RIO turns into a most
> uncomfortable film, leeringly depicting an affair with decidely icky

> undertones of incest and p__ophilia. Between gratuitous (if titillating)

> nude scenes and a succession of lame soundtrack songs, there are plenty
> of travelogue shots to pad out the thin narrative line. Caine looks
> embarrassed through the entire film, as well he might.

> Lewis Angel

> "Well, we don't consider her catatonic.
> We just kinda consider her quiet". Manhattan 1972

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On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Genocide wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Rufie710 wrote:
>
> > > Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
>

> Ack! You forgot the most in your face one... "Pink Flamingo"!!!
> Bleh...

Although I'm sure it was just a typographical error, your
mispelling of "Pink Flamingos" reminds me of John Waters' horrible story
about the title being wrong on the marquee at the world premiere of
"Flamingos"...

J Ramsay

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The title is "Close My Eyes", a rather fine British film.

Frank Grimes

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>osbo...@netrover.com (Osborne) wrote:

>Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

Oliver STone's Natural Born Killers (Dangerfield and Lewis) and Stone's
U-Turn (Lopez and Nolte)
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Joe Pfeiffer

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lewis angel <"angellc@angellc"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> writes:

>
> > ts...@midway.uchicago.edu (terry w. luster) wrote:
> >
> > > THERE IS NO INCEST IN "BLAME IT ON RIO"
> > > Michael Caine's charater is not related to Michelle Johnson.
> > > T.Luster
>

> Following is a quote from a review of Blame It On Rio found in The Movie
> Guide copyrighted by Cinemania:

>
> > At this point BLAME IT ON RIO turns into a most

> > uncomfortable film, leeringly depicting an affair with decidely icky > undertones of incest and pedophilia.
>
> Lewis Angel
> (Sorry if this posts more than once; I'm having trouble with my
> browser.)

I think the key word is ``undertones.'' I don't remember if the
character is supposed to be a minor, and no, they're not related, but
she's so young and the families are so close that the sense is there,
even if there is not actually any pedophilia or incest. One of those
movies where you suddenly ask yourself, ``why, exactly, am I watching
this?'' and for want of being able to come up with an answer, you turn
it off.
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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:22:03 GMT, osbo...@netrover.com (Osborne)
wrote:

>Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

Well, now it seems there are probably more movies with such material
than without. Anyway, add Ingmar Bergman's "Through a Glass Darkly"
(sister/brother), and I seem to recall a French pornographer and his
daughter in La nuit de Varennes. Also "Toto le heros,"
sister/brother, but only as fairly normal childhood inclinations that
have sad consequences. Some folks posting titles in this thread may
not be too sure just what "incest" means :-). Delightful topic.

Art P.

Greg Klymkiw

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To my best knowledge, I do believe you will find no incest in ONE
MILLION YEARS B.C.

Cheers, Greg K

Trent Lucier

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The People Under the Stairs = Wes Craven flick with psycho brother and
sister couple.

Also, Spanking the Monkey. I haven't seen this movie, but supposedly it
is about a boy who gets romantic with his bedridden mother. It is by
the same guy who made Flirting with Disaster.

alan burnett

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Anyone mention 'Chinatown'?

Catty

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Mark Lafferty <mlaf...@taz.dra.hmg.gb> wrote:

>There was a film with Clive Owen, Saskia Reeves and Alan Rickman which
>graphically depicted this...can't remember the name though. I think
>Tears was in the title?

Close My Eyes.

Catty

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Trent Lucier <tlu...@acs.bu.edu> wrote:

I just remember another 'sort of' film - 1900. Robert de Niro's
character was doing something rather indecent to his sister against
the tree with some help from his rifle. Does this count? It was a
mini series, but 1900 appears in many film reference books, sooo...?

Catty who remember raising her eyebrows rather high when she saw this
scene.

Christopher M. Stangl

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Rocky Horror Picture Show:
Riff Raff and his "most... beautiful sister" Magenta.
And in Shock Treatment,
Cosmo and Nation McKinley (Richard O'Brien, and Patricia
Quinn *again*?! Mr. O'Brien, do you have a complex
of some sort?

SHall2300

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Oh yeah, and:

Oedipus the King (directed Philip Saville) 1968. Great film, this.

Suze

Frida

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Luis Canau wrote:
>
> ca...@xzen-centaur.demon.co.uk (Catty ) wrote:
> [...]

> > Does this count? It was a
> >mini series, but 1900 appears in many film reference books, sooo...?
>

> It wasn't a mini series, in spite it being shown in two parts on TV the last
> time around. The movie has more than 5 hours, so there's a good reason to be
> shown in parts. Of course, the US made a special version much much shorter.
>
>I have read that it was made for Italian TV.
F.

Alric Knebel

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>"Susan Rambus" <ram...@mail.hughes.net> wrote:

>The Color Purple.

In THE COLOR PURPLE, it turned out NOT to be incest. Remember at the
end, when her sister cleared it up?

SHall2300

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Errrr....maybe stating the obvious, but:

Oedipus Rex

Suze

Daniel J. Harvey

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Don't forgot the most classic case of incest: Arthur and half-sister
Morgana (should really be Queen Morgawse, wife of King Lot incidentally)
in EXCALIBUR.

FRAJM

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>In THE COLOR PURPLE, it turned out NOT to be incest. Remember at the
>end, when her sister cleared it up?
>_____________________________________________
>Alric Knebel
>al...@datasync.com
>_______________________________

Similarly, in _Tom Jones_ where we're lead to believe Tom swived his mother.
Remember the look Mrs. Waters (Joyce Redman) gives the camera when she thinks
she did her son? One of great nonverbal moments in the talkies.

Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
http://members.aol.com/frajm/frankm.htm
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-- P. G. Wodehouse, Piccadilly Jim

Katie Lucas

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Don't know if anybody's said this one yet, but this year's "This
World, Then the Fireworks" had Billy Zane and Gina Gershon as bro/sis
lovers

Katie

Arthur Wohlwill

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In article <3446cb81...@news.usfca.edu> luca...@usfca.edu (Katie Lucas) writes:
>From: luca...@usfca.edu (Katie Lucas)
>Subject: Re: Incest
>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 02:21:55 GMT

>Don't know if anybody's said this one yet, but this year's "This
>World, Then the Fireworks" had Billy Zane and Gina Gershon as bro/sis
>lovers

The Grifters, based on another Jim Thompson story has suggestions of incest.

There was a french movie whose english translation is Murmurs of the Heart ( I
cant recall the french title).

mario camposano pasamba

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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Osborne wrote:

> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
>
>

No, there aren't any.
What kinda question is that?

-Mario

Jun Yan

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> > > >Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

Deloris Clabourne and Cement Garden are the recent ones.

ScOtt

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> > Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

Has anyone mentioned "The Hotel New Hampshire" yet?

ScOtt

Catty

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shal...@aol.com (SHall2300) wrote:

>Oedipus Rex

>Suze

*Slightly* too obvious. <grins> One poster beat you to it a few days
ago actually.

Catty

Marie Braden

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On 13 Oct 1997 22:28:39 GMT, bcha...@staff.uiuc.edu (chakravorty
bonnie jean) wrote:

>
>Jenny is sexually abused by her father in Forrest Gump
>
>Stuart's AA sponsor (Stuart Saves His Family) is traumitized when her
>long-lost biological father "makes a pass at her" after their first
>meeting
>
>Vixen and her brother (Russ Meyer's Vixen) engage in a consensual
>sexual relationship
Flowers in the Attic....did that cover the reason why the kids were
locked up? (their father being their mother's brother, as it turned
out, though at the point of that book, it was thought he was her
uncle).
And did it show Chris and Cathy falling in love? (brother/sister)

Diana1138

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>Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

Anyone mention "Caligula" yet?

-diana

christian d. ninsananda

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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Osborne wrote:

> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?
>
>

Here are the one's I've seen:

Sleepwalkers - mother/son
Lone Star - brother/sister
Annie's Garden - brother/sister
Innocent Lies - brother/sister
The House of Yes - brother/sister
Spanking the Monkey - mother/son
Natural Born Killers - father/daughter
U-Turn - father/daughter

Daevid MacKenzie, UltimaJock!

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...there's a brief suggestion of it in MY CHAUFFEUR...

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1) Angels and Insects

2) Fool for Love (I haven't seen this one but I heard there was a pretty
major incest angle to it)

Michael O'Brien,,,

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How come nobody has mentioned the Louis Malle film from the 70s, Murmur of
the Heart? Consensual sex between mother and son. Quite tastefully
handled. The mother is gorgeous.

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University of New Haven
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In article <62g60a$s...@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>, mik...@charger.newhaven.edu
(Michael O'Brien,,,) wrote:

> How come nobody has mentioned the Louis Malle film from the 70s, Murmur of
> the Heart?

It was one of the first ones mentioned.

Steve Crook

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> Osborne (osbo...@netrover.com) wrote:
>
> Are there any movies with Incest scenes or plots?

How about "Cat People" ? The 1982 version :)

Steve

Dentropian

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"Sister, My Sister" about two sisters working as maids who fall in love
--
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and every day the paperboy brings more