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70s american pics aging well and which ones aged badly

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Sir Blob

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Dec 17, 2009, 7:12:19 PM12/17/09
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aloha bobby and rose ages badly while things like lifeguard and little
murders age beautifully

will add more when im arsed

Madara0806

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:46:16 AM12/18/09
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EASY RIDER aged badly while THE WILD ANGELS still packs a punch.

David Oberman

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Dec 18, 2009, 12:30:18 PM12/18/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:46:16 -0800 (PST), Madara0806
<madar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> aloha bobby and rose ages badly while things like lifeguard and little
>> murders age beautifully
>>
>> will add more when im arsed
>
>EASY RIDER aged badly while THE WILD ANGELS still packs a punch.

Does a cheaper film like RACE WITH THE DEVIL still pack a thriller
punch?

Death From Above

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Dec 18, 2009, 4:33:36 PM12/18/09
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aged well:

downhill racer

aged unwell:

candidate

David Oberman

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:20:31 PM12/18/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:33:36 -0800 (PST), Death From Above
<cerebur...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>aged well:
>
>downhill racer
>
>aged unwell:
>
>candidate

What about:

KLUTE?

EYES OF LAURA MARS?

THE FURY?

FINGERS?

F FOR FAKE?

DOG DAY AFTERNOON?

LAW & DISORDER?

THE GROOVE TUBE?

william

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:29:53 PM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 5:20 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
>
> KLUTE?

Still a good movie. Saw it recently. It hasn't aged as well as say,
"Don't Look Now" but it was OK.
>
> EYES OF LAURA MARS?

Dumber than a big city democrat. Terrible film. Saw it a few days ago.
Please, dial down da Dunaway. What a waste of time and talent.
>
> F FOR FAKE?

How anyone can watch this dreck and still respect Orson Welles is
beyond me. The extras on the DVD are some sad stuff.
>
> DOG DAY AFTERNOON?

Still rocks. Saw it within the last year or so.
>
William
www.williamahearn.com

David Oberman

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:32:35 PM12/18/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:29:53 -0800 (PST), william <wlah...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> EYES OF LAURA MARS?
>
>Dumber than a big city democrat. Terrible film. Saw it a few days ago.
>Please, dial down da Dunaway. What a waste of time and talent.

I used to really like this movie. Thought it had sleek style &
decadent chic. Looked at it again a year or so ago & squirmed in
embarrassment throughout. Everyone except Dunaway is really bad:
Dourif, Lee Jones, Auberjenois, &c.

>> DOG DAY AFTERNOON?
>
>Still rocks. Saw it within the last year or so.

I know how to play "Amoreena" on the piano.

nick

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:51:22 PM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 12:30 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:46:16 -0800 (PST), Madara0806
>
> <madara0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> aloha bobby and rose ages badly while things like lifeguard and little
> >> murders age beautifully
>
> >> will add more when im arsed
>
> >EASY RIDER aged badly while THE WILD ANGELS still packs a punch.
>
> Does a cheaper film like RACE WITH THE DEVIL still pack a thriller
> punch?

I've seen it about five times and it always packs a punch.

william

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Dec 18, 2009, 6:24:27 PM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 5:32 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
>
> I know how to play "Amoreena" on the piano.

If Beethoven could hear you play that, you'd end up with stew in your
lap.

William
www.williamahearn.com

Death From Above

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Dec 18, 2009, 8:31:16 PM12/18/09
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>
>
> > F FOR FAKE?
>
> How anyone can watch this dreck and still respect Orson Welles is
> beyond me. The extras on the DVD are some sad stuff.
>
>

For starters, it was Welles having fun, and I certainly had fun
watching it. It isn't and wasn't meant to be Citizen Kane or Chimes at
Midnight? Are you some gayass mofo who says a great director must
ALWAYS make Big Important mooies?

F for Fake is for all time. Your comment, on the other hand, will be
dated by tomorrow.

Death From Above

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Dec 18, 2009, 8:45:54 PM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 4:20 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:33:36 -0800 (PST), Death From Above
>
> <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >aged well:
>
> >downhill racer
>
> >aged unwell:
>
> >candidate
>
> What about:
>
> KLUTE?
>
> EYES OF LAURA MARS?
>
> THE FURY?
>
> FINGERS?
>
> F FOR FAKE?
>
> DOG DAY AFTERNOON?
>
> LAW & DISORDER?
>
> THE GROOVE TUBE?

I aint seen none of these cept for Doggy Day and F for Fake. I like
them both immensely.

Btw, just because a movie has dated doesn't mean it's bad or
unwatchable. Indeed, their datedness makes them more interesting as
nostalgia pieces, as artifacts of a long bygone era, time, or
zeitgeist or some such.
Some fool said Easy Rider is dated, and it is in a way, but that's why
I like it. It is very much a work of its time, a film of the moment.
Some of its message and aspirations may seem foolish or delusional but
it captured and conveys the mood of the times. It's like terms like
'groovy' and 'far out' are dated too but that's why they are so
endearing.

Little Big Man is dated too, what with its anti-western shenanigans
and anti-Vietnam War allusions, but I still love and enjoy much in the
movie. It is lively and funny, even moving at times, especially with
that old coot of an injun.

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is rather an odd case. It is double-
dated and thus the dates cancel each other out. When made in 1976(or
was it 75?), Ken Kesey's book was already dated. Yet, it somehow
worked thanks to great performaces, fine direction, and eerie music.
So, when we see it today, are we to associate its datedness to the
early 60s or the mid 70s? It's almost surreal in that double-time
ness.

Saturday Night Fever is a movie that should be dismissed as disco
craze movie, and it is embarassingly dated in some ways. But,
Travolta's performance is colorful and even somewhat nuanced. And,
what the movie says about growing up, fame and self-deceit, and love
and such make it a classic of sorts. I think young people today will
identify with much of it.
When I saw it as a young kid, I couldn't believe I was seeing all that
fucking and titty shaking.

Hair... again by Forman, and another double-dated movie. By 1979, no
one cared about hippiedom, so the movie was dated upon release. But,
one could argue it was meant to be dated, a kind of nostalgia piece.
But, actually it wasn't really a nostalgia piece because it was based
on broadway musical whose rendition of hippiedom had little to do with
the real reality of Woodstock and Haight Ashbury and all that stuff.
In fact, I'm not sure what the movie is supposed to be. I guess it
could be enjoyed as a kind of a more serious version of Rocky Horror.
It was too silly for serious filmgoers, too serious for midnight cult
movie fools.

Coming Home. All political Jane Fonda films are dated, but this one
still works. I saw it again recently, and the performance of Fonda,
Dern, and Voight still hold up well. The ending is deeply moving even
if you disagree with the message.

Phantasm. Laugh riot.

william

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Dec 18, 2009, 8:52:53 PM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 8:31 pm, Death From Above <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>

> For starters, it was Welles having fun, and I certainly had fun
> watching it. It isn't and wasn't meant to be Citizen Kane or Chimes at
> Midnight?  Are you some gayass mofo who says a great director must
> ALWAYS make Big Important mooies?

He may have had fun splashing his groupie's butt all over the screen
but the film is foolish and trite. Sounds right up your alley. Did you
get excited when you wrote "gayass"? Did you touch yourself?


>
> F for Fake is for all time. Your comment, on the other hand, will be
> dated by tomorrow.

Which means it will have a date looooooong before you do.

William
www.williamahearn.com

David Oberman

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Dec 18, 2009, 9:00:52 PM12/18/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:45:54 -0800 (PST), Death From Above
<cerebur...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Btw, just because a movie has dated doesn't mean it's bad or
>unwatchable. Indeed, their datedness makes them more interesting as
>nostalgia pieces, as artifacts of a long bygone era, time, or
>zeitgeist or some such.

So true. For me, the most pertinent question is, "Does I enjoy this
movie?" a secondary question is, "Does this movie achieve Beethovenian
stature?"

When I can answer yes to both questions--as I can with the movie
GREASE (1978)--I deem it a success.

David Oberman

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Dec 18, 2009, 9:03:09 PM12/18/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:24:27 -0800 (PST), william <wlah...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> I know how to play "Amoreena" on the piano.
>
>If Beethoven could hear you play that, you'd end up with stew in your
>lap.

In all the annals, nobody ever dumped food back into HIS lap, the
irascible bitch. Had I been there, I woulda. Curiosity, however,
compels me to wonder just what his response would have been to THAT.
Probably laughter.

When we watch DOG DAY AFTERNOON, our feet tap to "Amoreena" during the
opening credits. It's a cheap high, but a high nonetheless.

globular

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Dec 19, 2009, 5:58:50 AM12/19/09
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The Wild Angels isn't 70s though

globular

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Dec 19, 2009, 5:59:33 AM12/19/09
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Neither are 70s though

tomcervo

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Dec 19, 2009, 6:22:13 AM12/19/09
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On Dec 18, 8:45 pm, Death From Above <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Coming Home. All political Jane Fonda films are dated, but this one


> still works. I saw it again recently, and the performance of Fonda,
> Dern, and Voight still hold up well. The ending is deeply moving even
> if you disagree with the message.

For me it never survived the Film Comment article that pointed out
that it was basically "Written on the Wind" with the ending of "A Star
is Born" tacked on to it. If it had, "Born on the Fourth of July"
would have done it in--whatever else you make think of the latter,
it's the real, raw thing made by people who knew the matter first
hand, instead of a bunch of old Hollywood hands working with one eye
on an Academy Award.

nick

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Dec 19, 2009, 8:08:13 AM12/19/09
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On Dec 18, 9:00 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:45:54 -0800 (PST), Death From Above
>
> <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Btw, just because a movie has dated doesn't mean it's bad or
> >unwatchable.  Indeed, their datedness makes them more interesting as
> >nostalgia pieces, as artifacts of a long bygone era, time, or
> >zeitgeist or some such.
>
> So true. For me, the most pertinent question is, "Does I enjoy this
> movie?" a secondary question is, "Does this movie achieve Beethovenian
> stature?"
>
10 doesn't. With 10 you have a trifecta of aging badly: Blake
Edwards, Dudley Moore and Bo Derek. But when we were in school we
were lined up around the block for this middle-aged angstfest. Last
time I watched it, it failed the Gaza test of being interesting as a
nostalgia piece, artifact, etc.

lugnut

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Dec 19, 2009, 10:52:17 AM12/19/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:20:31 -0800, David Oberman
<DavidO...@att.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:33:36 -0800 (PST), Death From Above
><cerebur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>aged well:
>>
>>downhill racer
>>
>>aged unwell:
>>
>>candidate
>
>What about:

>THE GROOVE TUBE?

Well, since nobody else has tackled this one...

I hunted it down and watched it again not long ago, and I still got a
laff out of it...but, as someone who didn't see this movie until the
late '80s or early '90s, it's ALWAYS seemed incredibly dated to me,
and it's not getting any fresher. It'd be a lot better if that
never-ending "Dealers" sketch with Richard Belzer picked up the pace,
but it kinda drags the whole thing down (even though there's still
funny bits in it, too.)

Overall though, still pretty funny, but there's no mistaking it for
anything but a product of its time.


-lugnut

Brad Filippone

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Dec 19, 2009, 11:41:49 AM12/19/09
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On Dec 17, 8:12 pm, Sir Blob <sirbl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Smokey and the Bandit" is still highly amusing to me. A product of
the CB-radio craze era, but I still find it loads of fun. NOT its
sequels though!

Brad

Madara0806

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Dec 21, 2009, 12:08:47 PM12/21/09
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The '70s began in 1968. Or is it that the '60s didn't end till 1978?
Something like that. It all blurs together after so many decades.

Steven L.

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Dec 21, 2009, 1:54:26 PM12/21/09
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"The Taking of Pelham One Two Three" (1974 version) is still fun to
watch.


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nick

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Dec 21, 2009, 5:32:58 PM12/21/09
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The sixties ended with the election of Carter. Or Altamont. The
sixties had plenty of ends.

I'd say seventies cinema ended with either The King of Comedy or The
Right Stuff.

Alexander_ The_Great

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Dec 22, 2009, 12:40:18 AM12/22/09
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Aged well, or at least still cool.
‘‘Duel’’ (Dennis Weaver)
Aged poorly:
‘‘Black Sunday’’

Madara0806

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:25:59 PM12/23/09
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On Dec 22, 12:40 am, Alexander-The-Gr...@webtv.net (Alexander_

Aged well: anything with Charles Bronson
Aged badly: anything with Joe Namath

nick

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:36:06 PM12/23/09
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His episode of The Brady Bunch is timeless.

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