I wonder how the movie-makers got away with that? I know it's not
illegal, but you would think the church-groups & feminists would have
raised hell back in 2001.
If somehow we are routinely visited by extraterrestrials, they must
find us so quaint...
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Keira Knightley's nudity was done in England, which has different laws
regarding under-age nudity than we do. I'm sure if you wanted to cause
some trouble, you'd have a solid case removing DVDs of The Hole from
your local video store, since technically I suppose it would be
considered child porn, but that's up to you. But then you've got the
images on your computer too so maybe you'd better keep quiet.
I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
Having seen Ms. Knightly in seeral films I didn't think she had
breasts.
John Harkness
Having now seen pictures of her naked it seems obvious that she doesn't.
**
Captain Infinity
Yay!
> I'm sure if you wanted to cause
> some trouble, you'd have a solid case removing DVDs of The Hole from
> your local video store, since technically I suppose it would be
> considered child porn...
No sex == not porn. The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld, several times,
that a naked minor is not pornography.
She looks cold.
>No sex == not porn. The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld, several times,
>that a naked minor is not pornography.
What about two naked minors & a bong?
> telenovels wrote:
> > 16 - http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/9030
> > 15 - http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/5647
> >
> > I wonder how the movie-makers got away with that? I know it's not
> > illegal, but you would think the church-groups & feminists would have
> > raised hell back in 2001.
>
> Keira Knightley's nudity was done in England, which has different laws
> regarding under-age nudity than we do. I'm sure if you wanted to cause
> some trouble, you'd have a solid case removing DVDs of The Hole from
> your local video store, since technically I suppose it would be
> considered child porn,
Mere nudity is not pornography, child or otherwise.
I'd have to agree with Harkness on this one. The argument for well
placed insect bites would be hard to rebutt.
Way back a long time ago Nastasia Kinkski did a full frontal
nude for a file titled "To The Devil A Daughter". It, too,
was shot in England or on the continent. However, in a
bizarre twist, she was not allowed to attend the London
premier of the film because she was too young to attend a
movie that displayed full frontal nudity. It was a big deal
in the London papers back then.
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Oh, but they are very pretty insect bites.
On 3 Dec, 03:29, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> In article <1165103418.265916.102...@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Nick Macpherson" <NMacphe...@AOL.com> wrote:
>
> > telenovels wrote:
> > > 16 -http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/9030
> > > 15 -http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/5647
>
> > > I wonder how the movie-makers got away with that? I know it's not
> > > illegal, but you would think the church-groups & feminists would have
> > > raised hell back in 2001.
>
> > Keira Knightley's nudity was done in England, which has different laws
> > regarding under-age nudity than we do. I'm sure if you wanted to cause
> > some trouble, you'd have a solid case removing DVDs of The Hole from
> > your local video store, since technically I suppose it would be
> > considered child porn,
Mere nudity is not pornography, child or otherwise.
Can be. Do you think penetration is a prerequisit ?
On 3 Dec, 01:50, Captain Infinity <Infin...@captaininfinity.us> wrote:
> Once Upon A Time Harkness wrote:
>
>
>
> >telenovels wrote:
> >> 16 -http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/9030
> >> 15 -http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/5647
>
> >> I wonder how the movie-makers got away with that? I know it's not
> >> illegal, but you would think the church-groups & feminists would have
> >> raised hell back in 2001.
>
> >I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
>
> >Having seen Ms. Knightly in seeral films I didn't think she had
> >breasts.Having now seen pictures of her naked it seems obvious that she doesn't.
How uncharitable of you. Are you soley interested in volume ?
>
> **
> Captain Infinity
you don't "sue" people for child porn. You arrest them.
And apparently you don't know law. Thora Birch's nude scene in American
Beauty was shot when she was 16.
John Harkness
It's kind of a blurry area, though, isn't it? As I understand it,
nudity without any sexual context is fine, otherwise baby pictures
would be suspect and so on, but once sex is involved, you're treading
on dangerous ground. The American Beauty scene was borderline and
controversial at the time but AB had the prestige factor of Spielberg's
involvement and potential Oscar nominations.
> she can't be 15 or 16. the movie producers would be totally sued for
> putting a child in a nude sex scene. that would be child pornography.
Wrong on all three counts.
It wasn't a sex scene.
It wasn't pornography.
And she was in her teens at the time.
That's like the girl in Ohio who was recently charged with possession of
child porn because she took pictures of herself masturbating. I wonder
if they could also have charged her with statutory rape/sexual assault
on a minor for bringing herself to orgasm?
One has to wonder why grown and presumably rational adults not only
allow such legal absurdities but act like they have no choice but to
follow them.
Plus there's parental consent thing, which covers most of the bases. Of
course, Birch's parents were both porn actors back in the day...
John Harkness
I think the test for pornography is that it must be intended to provoke
arousal, a visceral effect--I mean, we're talking about a Sam Mendes
film here.
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"Bill Becker" <bb...@rmisp.com> wrote in message
news:1165158275.6...@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> As I understand it, she made The Hole when she was 15 turning 16. The
> topless shot was taken *after* she turned 16.
>
Remember Brooke Shields in Pretty Baby?
You mean that movie that starred Susan Sarandon and Keith
Carradine?
>> > Keira Knightley's nudity was done in England, which has different laws
>> > regarding under-age nudity than we do. I'm sure if you wanted to cause
>> > some trouble, you'd have a solid case removing DVDs of The Hole from
>> > your local video store, since technically I suppose it would be
>> > considered child porn,
>
>Mere nudity is not pornography, child or otherwise.
For instance _Three men and a Baby+, or _My Mother's Castle_ (_Le
Chāteau de ma mčre_).
For adults, maybe _Dance with Wolves_, _Schindler's List_.
I wonder how many guys start preferring some hair on their women in
porn after changing some diapers. I suspect quite a few - once we
grow up enough that nude girls becomes very different from nude women.
>That's like the girl in Ohio who was recently charged with possession of
>child porn because she took pictures of herself masturbating. I wonder
>if they could also have charged her with statutory rape/sexual assault
>on a minor for bringing herself to orgasm?
Sometimes the law can be an ass. Sometimes it changes for instance,
to not throw the male half of two 15 year old's having sex in jail.
But these laws vary from place to place.
Isn't this all ancient history, vis a vis Brooke Shields in "Pretty Baby"?
Many women, especially young women, have naturally hard and/or puffy
nipples... even when in a warm climate.
Your belief is not required. A smple check of imdb.om would verify it
to be fact.
- The legislators never anticipated the law being used to prosecute a
minor taking pictures of herself, else they'd have changed the law.
- The D.A. is a sick bastard who wants to crush the 16-yr-old's
"sinful" masturbation & photographing of herself. He probably think
he's doing "god's work" to punish a "filthy harlot". The idiot.
Were I president or governor I would Pardon the girl so she doesn't
have to go through the stress of a court trial. I'd also try to fire
the idiot District Attorney.
Define "whore" and why it's wrong to do that.
>Plus there's parental consent thing, which covers most of the bases. Of
>course, Birch's parents were both porn actors back in the day...
<trimmed the wrestling group & the Hanson group .... HANSON group?!>
I wonder whether any grownups who were filmed naked as babies or
toddlers ever tried to take the filmmaker to court, or to Judge Judy
or something.
Whenever I see a baby in his or her birthday suit in a movie, I
consider the possibility that the kid is going to be mad about it upon
reaching adulthood.
>Many women, especially young women, have naturally hard and/or puffy
>nipples... even when in a warm climate.
sig!! grab it!!
What's so amazing about that comment? It's a simple statement of fact.
>> >Many women, especially young women, have naturally hard and/or puffy
>> >nipples... even when in a warm climate.
Has Jimmy Buffet begun writing porn?
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One would have to think that the second sentence could be
improved by changing the word order so that the sex occurs
before the jail.
Well, in that case.........
> I say the sick fuck who invented tits on a 15 year old should go to hell.
>
>
Some claim he did at one point.
<splurt>
--
Class oozes out of my every orifice. - Harry Dresden
Okay. Define "skank" and why that type of behavior is wrong.
so its ok for a 16 year old to do naked sex scenes in hollywood? so how
come if a guy is looking at porn of a 16 year old and gets caught he
can go to jail for it?
umm, if there is a naked guy and a naked woman and they are making
love, how is that not a sex scene?
ok but she sure doesnt look that old.
There was no such thing. The scene in question merely had Kiera
Knightley flashing her breasts to someone out a window.
Strawman argument. Neither Knightly nor Birch had sex. They took off
their clothes. The end.
Nudity is not illegal, regardless of the age.
Yeah that's what I told the judge but he wasn't buying it. ;-) Now I
check IDs.
>>> Wrong on all three counts.
>>>
>>> It wasn't a sex scene.
>>>
>>> It wasn't pornography.
>>>
>>> And she was in her teens at the time.
>>
>> umm, if there is a naked guy and a naked woman and they are
>> making love, how is that not a sex scene?
>
> There was no such thing. The scene in question merely had Kiera
> Knightley flashing her breasts to someone out a window.
>
> It wasn't a sex scene.
>
> It wasn't pornography.
>
> And she was in her teens at the time.
The two of you are talking about two different scenes. You're
talking about the one from THE HOLE, which *is* just her flashing
her breasts. RJS is talking about the other image, from DR.
ZHIVAGO, which *is* a sex scene.
-- jayembee
> The two of you are talking about two different scenes. You're
> talking about the one from THE HOLE, which *is* just her flashing
> her breasts. RJS is talking about the other image, from DR.
> ZHIVAGO, which *is* a sex scene.
.
The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that *simulation* is not sex.
Therefore not porn and not illegal. And that's why Zhivago is allowed
inside our borders.
This was filmed in England (other people tell me).
I guess the age of consent is 16?
> I wonder how the movie-makers got away with that? I know it's not
> illegal, but you would think the church-groups & feminists would have
> raised hell back in 2001.
Keira isn't the first minor to expose her breasts in a movie.
Off the top of my head I can think of Brooke Shields & Phoebe Cates.
--
Mac Cool
who would want to see the breasts of a teenage girl??
so i guess they just got naked to look at each other? they didnt do
anything to each other? come on!
does this mean you accidentally banged a girl who was underage?
> Keira isn't the first minor to expose her breasts in a movie.
>
> Off the top of my head I can think of Brooke Shields & Phoebe Cates.
Before either of them, there was Olivia Hussey in ROMEO AND JULIET.
-- jayembee
> who would want to see the breasts of a teenage girl??
A teenage boy?
Who cares? Not the issue under discussion.
> > > so its ok for a 16 year old to do naked sex scenes in hollywood?
> >
> > Strawman argument. Neither Knightly nor Birch had sex. They took off
> > their clothes. Nudity is not illegal, regardless of the age.
>
> so i guess they just got naked to look at each other? they didnt do
> anything to each other? come on!
.
No the ACTORS (key word) did not have sex surrounded by several dozen
cameraman, writers, director, and staff. Use some common sense.
"What a ma-roon." - Bugs Bunny
when i was a teenager i wanted to see adult women naked.
they did in basic instinct!
If that's *all* you wanted, then you had some developmental problems. If
the naked form of girls your own age turned you off, you had issues.
A teenage girl IS an adult woman. She's got the secondary sex
characteristics (breasts, etcetera) and the ability to create babies.
It doesn't get any more adult than that.
Irrelevant to the topic at hand. Neither Knightly or Birch appeared in
BI.
The reason why NORMAL people don't lust after teenage girls is the
mental/emotional immaturity. That's why it's gross. Why are you so
fascinated by teenage girl's bodies?
--
Ignorance isn't just bliss. It's freaking orgasmic ecstasy
- The Dresden Files
Irrelevant. I wasn't discussing psychology. I was discussing the
physical body's maturity & its ability to spawn the next generation.
>From that perspective of Biology, late-teen women are adult women.
:Sometimes the law can be an ass.
A better example is the case sometime in the
past year of an underaged girl being arrested and
charged with producing/distributing child pornography
because she had naked pictures of herself on her
computer.
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George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'
>:Sometimes the law can be an ass.
>
> A better example is the case sometime in the
>past year of an underaged girl being arrested and
>charged with producing/distributing child pornography
>because she had naked pictures of herself on her
>computer.
I'm not sure that is a better example - when adult pornography was
illegal, adults were charged with that same thing.
>The reason why NORMAL people don't lust after teenage girls is the
>mental/emotional immaturity. That's why it's gross. Why are you so
>fascinated by teenage girl's bodies?
It's interesting though that porn has so many shaved women. I've got
a couple of granddaughters who will show all (I gave them a bath last
week) - making such nudity not at all sexy.
I guess some shaving makes it easier to see - but keep some hair so
that we don't confuse them with girls.
The difference is that the Supreme Court has ruled that the only reason
child pornography can be outlawed is because a child must be abused in
order to make it. Sex with kids is a crime, camera or no camera. That
was not the case with adult pornography.
Therefore, in a child porn case, the child is the victim of the crime.
It's an odd state of affairs indeed when the police arrest and charge
the victim of a crime with committing the crime in the first place.
lol come on! why settle for teenage ass and legs, when you can stare at
grown up tits and ass?
and she has small breasts. i like big ones.
bingo. i thought the same thing. who on earth would find a teenage girl
more enticing then a grown woman?
adult porn was illegal? how can it be illegal to view pictures of 2
grown adults having sex?
Because it was. Simple as that. Go read Mapp vs. Ohio, in which the
Supreme Court ruled such laws unconstitutional.
By the time a girl is in her mid-to-late teens, her body is already
"grown up" in every biological sense.
>> I'm not sure that is a better example - when adult pornography was
>> illegal, adults were charged with that same thing.
>
>adult porn was illegal? how can it be illegal to view pictures of 2
>grown adults having sex?
Righteous people will try to make anything they don't like illegal.
Why are you giving your teenage granddaughters a bath?
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That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos.
- The Dresden Files
That's a lie and a half...lol... every heard of the term MILF?
> >
> > lol come on! why settle for teenage ass and legs, when you can stare at
> > grown up tits and ass?
>
> By the time a girl is in her mid-to-late teens, her body is already
> "grown up" in every biological sense.
.
And she doesn't have age spots or sagging or stretch marks (getting
old sucks).
Big breasts are nothing but gross protrusions. They often
tend to detract from what otherwise might be a beautiful woman.
--
Life is a journey. You don't get to start at the end.
Natural "big ones" sag from their weight & are often quite ugly to see.
I prefer small and firm. A or B is ideal.
If you could ever get a woman that is...
Yeah and? Stop deluding yourself old lady.
--
Rockboy
I don't need your love to disconnect
> >>>Forge wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>In article <1165365387....@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>,
> >>>> rjs...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>who would want to see the breasts of a teenage girl??
> >>>>
> >>>>A teenage boy?
> >>>
> >>>when i was a teenager i wanted to see adult women naked.
> >>
> >>.
> >>
> >>A teenage girl IS an adult woman. She's got the secondary sex
> >>characteristics (breasts, etcetera) and the ability to create babies.
> >>It doesn't get any more adult than that.
> >
> >
> > and she has small breasts. i like big ones.
> >
>
> Big breasts are nothing but gross protrusions.
And pussy makes KennyKornholer puke.
Agreed. Anything bigger than a B is (usually) too big.
Especially if they're made of silicone; yuck; like looking at a
minature cow.
I wasn't referring to myself, idiot.
>telenovels wrote:
>> I prefer small and firm. A or B is ideal.
>>
>
>If you could ever get a woman that is...
He's talking about his blowup dolls. He doesn't like the big boobed
ones because the plastic seams chafe him.
**
Captain Infinity
> BTR1701 wrote:
> >> bingo. i thought the same thing. who on earth would find a teenage girl
> >> more enticing then a grown woman?
> >
> > A teenage boy.
>
>
> That's a lie and a half...lol... every heard of the term MILF?
Yes, usually from other adult men. But considering the number of teenage
boys who have sex with teenage girls, your claim that teenage boys don't
find teenage girls appealing is ridiculous.
Hell, when I was a teenager, all I could think about were the girls in
my school. Adults were "old people" and weren't even on my radar. The
oldest girl I lusted after in my teen years was Heather Thomas from "The
Fall Guy" and she was all of 19 or 20 at the time.
I've never understood guys who find women attractive who have sewn
balloons onto their chest.
I don't know that they do, apart from the odd surgical scar fetishist. What
many guys do like is a woman with a "rack." That they don't often seem to
think about what those puppies will look like unsheathed is, I think,
entirely predictable.
>> adult porn was illegal? how can it be illegal to view pictures of
>> 2 grown adults having sex?
>
> Because it was. Simple as that. Go read Mapp vs. Ohio, in which
> the Supreme Court ruled such laws unconstitutional.
I think you've got the wrong cite. _Mapp_ was the case that imposed
the Exclusionary Rule, after police who had a warrant to search
Dollree Mapp's house for a fugitive looked inside containers which
were far too small to contain a human being and found porn, and she
was prosecuted for that. My understanding is that the obscenity
issues in the case were never decided, because the state had to drop
the charges against Mapp after it lost its evidence.
--
William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
You forgot to add "and often they will succeed."
> IMDB notes that Keira Knightly was born in 1985, which makes her
> 21.
Today. The photos in question are from movies she made a few years
ago.