Notice that references to movies tend to be for ones made 20, 30, 40 years ago?

[RichA]

Whenever anyone is using a movie reference to illustrate a point, the
movie is inevitably older. Why? Because movies made in the last 20
years (mainstream movies) are not memorable. Their dialog isn't,
their plots, tag lines, etc. There is an obnoxious ad running in
Canadian Cineplex theatres and it uses several movie references. Not
one a movie younger than 20 years old.
I think this says a lot about current films.

[gtr]

Possibly. Or possibly the reason that we refer to old cultural
artifacts of any kind is that these have the broadest possible
recognition.

[Invid Fan]

In article
<0468a12d-7a41-45db...@q35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Whenever anyone is using a movie reference to illustrate a point, the
> movie is inevitably older. Why?

Because the writer is referencing the films he saw growing up. Nothing
new in this. You have the "present day" teens in Friday the 13th doing
Katharine Hepburn impressions. You know, like teens in 1980 were wont
to do...

--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

[RichA]

Name me one movie in the last 10 years where they can derive as
recognizable a line as "Luke, I am your father" or, "I see dead
people?"

[TT]

22.8.2012 0:36, RichA kirjoitti:
> Whenever anyone is using a movie reference to illustrate a point, the
> movie is inevitably older. Why? Because movies made in the last 20
> years (mainstream movies) are not memorable. Their dialog isn't,
> their plots, tag lines, etc.

Maybe it takes some time for references to become mainstream.

But I certainly don't agree with you on films of past 20 years. Let's see...

Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction,
Matrix (My name is Neo! I know Kung-Fu, There is no spoon, He is The One
etc etc),
City of God, Schindler's List, The King's Speech, The Downfall,
Brokeback Mountain, Unforgiven, Groundhog Day, Cattaga, Bram Stoker's
Dracula(Blood is life), Falling Down, Crimson Tide, Election, Bad
Lieutenant, The Net, The hand that rocks the cradle, Avatar, Titanic,
Black Swan, Big Lebowski, Forrest Gump... and many more.

Looks like most on my list are from 90's instead of 2000's ... so you
may have a point there.

[TT]

Ok, it's on like Donkey Kong...

THIS IS SPARTA!

[Bill Anderson]

My precioussssss

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I am the Mighty Favog

[moviePig]

"I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed."

"I wish I knew how to quit you."

"No, if anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am NOT drinking any
fucking Merlot!"

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[Invid Fan]

In article
<54c8f3ab-0ffc-43ff...@c4g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,

"Squirrel!"

[gtr]

I haven't seen many American movies from the last 10 years. In fact I
tend to avoid them. Which is my point. "Play it again, Sam." Lots
more people would get that because they've had 70 years to work its way
into the environment.

[RichA]

Oh yeah, they are right up there with the ones I cited....

[wlah...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:25:45 PM UTC-4, gtr wrote:

> I haven't seen many American movies from the last 10 years. In fact I
> tend to avoid them. Which is my point. "Play it again, Sam." Lots
> more people would get that because they've had 70 years to work its way
> into the environment.

Or they picked it up more recently from Woody Allen . . .

[moviePig]

You complained of unmemorable dialog. But I suspect that, per viewer
of their respective movies, pretty much all the cited lines are quite
indelible. (Btw, as deathless prose, I'd argue that "Luke, I am your
father" is hardly up there with "I like both oysters and snails"...)

[Rich]

moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote in
news:85ee743d-4d75-42c7...@cf4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:

A ridiculous argument since there are probably semi-obscure movies that
all of use remember a line or two of dialog from, but it is hardly
universally shared. BTW, we are talking about movies that made an impact
such that the dialog was memorable, not that the dialog taken on its own
was superior. But overall, the older movies people remember more, even
younger people. I don't remember a single line of dialog from "Hunger
Games" as an example of a recent "big movie" and my guess is few people
who saw it do. It's almost like there is a plan in Hollywood to make
movies unmemorable. Maybe so they can do remakes every five years...

[bermuda999]

And of course neither quote is correct.
"No. I am your father."
"My taste includes both snails and oysters."

[dm16...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:12:29 PM UTC-4, Invid Fan wrote:
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> moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
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> > > On 8/21/2012 8:41 PM, RichA wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 21, 6:30 pm, gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
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> > > >> On 2012-08-21 21:36:48 +0000, RichA said:
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> > > >>> Whenever anyone is using a movie reference to illustrate a point, the
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> > > >>> movie is inevitably older. �Why? �Because movies made in the last 20
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> > > >>> years (mainstream movies) are not memorable. �Their dialog isn't,
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> > > >>> their plots, tag lines, etc. �There is an obnoxious ad running in
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> > > >>> Canadian Cineplex theatres and it uses several movie references. �Not

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> > > >>> one a movie younger than 20 years old.
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> > > >>> I think this says a lot about current films.
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> > > >> Possibly. �Or possibly the reason that we refer to old cultural

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> > > >> artifacts of any kind is that these have the broadest possible
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> > > >> recognition.
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> > > > Name me one movie in the last 10 years where they can derive as
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> > > > recognizable a line as "Luke, I am your father" or, "I see dead
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> > > > people?"
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> > > My precioussssss
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> > "I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed."
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> >
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> > "I wish I knew how to quit you."
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> > "No, if anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am NOT drinking any
>
> > fucking Merlot!"
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> >
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> "Squirrel!"
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> --
>
> Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
>
> 'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

Trivia question - In which movie does Hummphrey Bogart get called a ".. squirrel brained nincompoop!"

Dave M

[dm16...@gmail.com]

Probably because Humphrey Bogart never said it.

Dave M

[gtr]

It doesn't matter in the slightest--that's exactly how things work
their way into the fabric of culture, but being exchanged endlessly,
whether accurately or not.

[Kingo Gondo]

"RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, people were never much on citing to comic books. Why should be
surprised that, except for pathetic fanboys living with their mommies,
nobody wants to cite comic book movies?

[Rich]

"Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nos...@gmail.org> wrote in
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> "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:0468a12d-7a41-45db-8b70-6d89598fa9f3

@q35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> Whenever anyone is using a movie reference to illustrate a point, the
>> movie is inevitably older. Why? Because movies made in the last 20
>> years (mainstream movies) are not memorable. Their dialog isn't,
>> their plots, tag lines, etc. There is an obnoxious ad running in
>> Canadian Cineplex theatres and it uses several movie references. Not
>> one a movie younger than 20 years old.
>> I think this says a lot about current films.
>
> Well, people were never much on citing to comic books. Why should be
> surprised that, except for pathetic fanboys living with their mommies,
> nobody wants to cite comic book movies?
>
>

More than the comic book aspect, it's the banality of dialog, the
unmemorability of all of them.