Actors having sex on camera--serious inquiry
Grand Inquisitor
interview with an actress, Mira Sorvino I think, and she confirmed the
rumor that some sex scenes in major Hollywood movies are genuine. This,
frankly, disturbed and disgusted me. I was wondering if anybody else
thinks it's true, and what movies it might have been in? I haven't seen
it (and don't want to see it, since Billy Bob Thorton makes me heave),
but many have said they thought the controversial sex scene in Monster's
Ball was real. Thoughts?
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Oddly enough, I too have been questioning sex scenes lately in today's
movies. I'm talking ordinary movies, not porno types.
They're so real and so explicit these days that it has left me
wondering that *if* they weren't real, how in the world could 2 actors
get up and walk away after the sexual moves they've pretended to make?
And then.... doesn't this very real pretension of sex, assuming its
pretension or simulation make you wonder about the so called phrase "I
can't stop" that teenages and some men make, when they take the
situation to a near or actual rape?
Further, whether real or simulated, since its so graphic, so
explicit... one gets to wondering about the crew that's filming these
scenes. How are they reacting to this?
And finally, one wonders if the writer or producer who demands that
the sex scenes be added into the movie... just what are his motives,
since such explicit sex does not add to the story line.
Grand Inquisitor
>
> Oddly enough, I too have been questioning sex scenes lately in today's
> movies. I'm talking ordinary movies, not porno types.
>
> They're so real and so explicit these days that it has left me
> wondering that *if* they weren't real, how in the world could 2 actors
> get up and walk away after the sexual moves they've pretended to make?
> And then.... doesn't this very real pretension of sex, assuming its
> pretension or simulation make you wonder about the so called phrase "I
> can't stop" that teenages and some men make, when they take the
> situation to a near or actual rape?
> Further, whether real or simulated, since its so graphic, so
> explicit... one gets to wondering about the crew that's filming these
> scenes. How are they reacting to this?
> And finally, one wonders if the writer or producer who demands that
> the sex scenes be added into the movie... just what are his motives,
> since such explicit sex does not add to the story line.
All your questions are good ones, but to answer your last: $$$$
Kilroy Bass
> Okay, get your giggles out. I'm not asking about porno, but I read an
> interview with an actress, Mira Sorvino I think, and she confirmed the
> rumor that some sex scenes in major Hollywood movies are genuine. This,
> frankly, disturbed and disgusted me.
Rumor had it that Kris Kristofferson and Sarah Miles had real sex in
"Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea, The" (1976)
Lincoln Spector
> movies. I'm talking ordinary movies, not porno types.
>
> They're so real and so explicit these days that it has left me
> wondering that *if* they weren't real, how in the world could 2 actors
> get up and walk away after the sexual moves they've pretended to make?
break down and cry. It's their job, and they're good at it.
Over and over I've heard actors say that sex scenes are extremely unerotic
to shoot. You're naked in front of all these people. There are bright
lights. You have to make your marks and recite your dialog. And then do take
after take. Then move the camera and do take after take, again.
> And then.... doesn't this very real pretension of sex, assuming its
> pretension or simulation make you wonder about the so called phrase "I
> can't stop" that teenages and some men make, when they take the
> situation to a near or actual rape?
No. For the reasons above.
Think of what would happen to an actor who turned a simulated sex scene into
a real rape--in front of a lot of people and being recorded on film. His
entire life would be ruined.
> Further, whether real or simulated, since its so graphic, so
> explicit... one gets to wondering about the crew that's filming these
> scenes. How are they reacting to this?
"When's the next coffee break?" "Am I getting overtime pay yet?"
> And finally, one wonders if the writer or producer who demands that
> the sex scenes be added into the movie... just what are his motives,
> since such explicit sex does not add to the story line.
Many sex scenes are thrown in for commercial reasons, of course--as are many
murders, explosions, and special effects (far more common than sex scenes, I
might add). But I disagree that it never adds to the story line. The sex
scenes in Monster's Ball, for instance, tells you a tremendous amount about
the characters. Besides, I'd rather look at a sex scene than murders,
explosions, and special effects.
Lincoln
Steve Lee
wrote:
I heard that the main characters in The Lover had real sex too.
Jane
> And finally, one wonders if the writer or producer who demands that
> the sex scenes be added into the movie... just what are his motives,
> since such explicit sex does not add to the story line.
In Louis Malle's "Damage," the intensity of Jeremy Irons' all-consumming
obsession with Juliet Binoche couldn't be defined on film without their
explicit sexual encounters. Just showing his jealousy and possessiveness of
her without the sex wouldn't have sufficed to demonstrate the depth of his
pain and the price he paid.
kathy
Julie Christie in "Don't Look Now" were actually having sex in that
film. Think Maud Adams sued Bruce Dern over "accidentally" penetrating
her in some 70's movie that I can't for the life of me recall just now
:(.
Kathy C-posting from Google so will be slow in response time, sorry.
John Harkness
Actually Adams sued Dern for implying that they'd actually had sex in
the film -- it was Tattoo.
John Harkness
Nick Macpherson
>>Showing my age here but it's been said that Donald Sutherland and
>>Julie Christie in "Don't Look Now" were actually having sex in that
>>film. Think Maud Adams sued Bruce Dern over "accidentally" penetrating
>>her in some 70's movie that I can't for the life of me recall just now
>>:(.
>>Kathy C-posting from Google so will be slow in response time, sorry.
>
>
>Actually Adams sued Dern for implying that they'd actually had sex in
>the film -- it was Tattoo.
>
I read some interview with Dern at the time and he was going on about how
Tattoo was the first hardcore Hollywood film (he described his "sex act" with
Maud Adams in the crudest terms possible.). Joseph E. Levine was the one who
started the rumor to help publicize the movie but if you watch it now, it's a
routinely shot, dull-ish sex scene.
David Carradine and Barbara Hershey in Boxcar Bertha, that's supposed to be
real, isn't it? If you believe internet gossip (and who doesn't?), Joan Chen
and Matt Dillon got carried away with their sex scene in Golden Gate. The most
explicit sex scene I've seen in a recent mainstream American movie is probably
between James Spader (any discussion of sex in movies needs at least one Spader
mention) and Madchen Amick in Dream Lover, the "unrated" version.
Jeff Duncanson
>
> I heard that the main characters in The Lover had real sex too.
I read an interview with Jane March where she said that wasn't the
case...but the director was ambigous about it in his interviews ,
which would serve the purpose of creating a lot of curiousity about
it.
I've also heard the "real sex" rumour about "Wild Orchid" and "Betty
Blue" , both unsubstantiated.
There's a French-Canadian film called "The Angel and the Woman"
,which is lengendary for a supposed real sex scene between Carole
Laure and Richie Furay , who were husband and wife at that time.
Jeff
John Harkness
Duncanson) wrote:
Yes, there's a couple of hardcore scenes in L'Ange et La Femme in the
original cut -- it screened at the National Film Theatre in Ottawa in
the mid-70s. I'm not sure what happened to them once the film was
released.
John Harkness
John Harkness
Duncanson) wrote:
Whoops, you're confusing Richie Furay, who was in the Buffalo
Springfield, with Louis Furey, the Montreal musician/composer, who was
married to Laure at the time (and may still be -- they were still
together about five years ago.)
John Harkness
Nick Macpherson
>> There's a French-Canadian film called "The Angel and the Woman"
>>,which is lengendary for a supposed real sex scene between Carole
>>Laure and Richie Furay , who were husband and wife at that time.
>>
>>Jeff
>
>Yes, there's a couple of hardcore scenes in L'Ange et La Femme in the
>original cut -- it screened at the National Film Theatre in Ottawa in
>the mid-70s. I'm not sure what happened to them once the film was
>released.
>
I had the hardcore scenes on my hard drive for awhile but I don't know what
happened to them. The movie used to be available, a very poor print, from
Video Search of Miami.
Steven D. Litvintchouk
> Further, whether real or simulated, since its so graphic, so
> explicit... one gets to wondering about the crew that's filming these
> scenes. How are they reacting to this?
Very likely they react to it the same way that they react to real sex
acts in porn movies that they are filming. It's a job, they want to
film the scenes right, and they want to get paid.
> And finally, one wonders if the writer or producer who demands that
> the sex scenes be added into the movie... just what are his motives,
> since such explicit sex does not add to the story line.
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Grand Inquisitor wrote:
> Okay, get your giggles out. I'm not asking about porno, but I read an
> interview with an actress, Mira Sorvino I think, and she confirmed the
> rumor that some sex scenes in major Hollywood movies are genuine. This,
> frankly, disturbed and disgusted me. I was wondering if anybody else
> thinks it's true, and what movies it might have been in? I haven't seen
> it (and don't want to see it, since Billy Bob Thorton makes me heave),
> but many have said they thought the controversial sex scene in Monster's
> Ball was real. Thoughts?
The movie, "Love Scenes," actually dealt with this topic.
This guy's a mainstream movie director. And he's directing and filming
his wife, an actress, in a new movie, whose script has some simulated
sex scenes of her with a male actor. Things go a little too far and the
two of them end up inadvertently having real sex while her husband is
watching it as it's being filmed.
Your Pal Brian
> Rumor had it that Kris Kristofferson and Sarah Miles had real sex in
> "Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea, The" (1976)
I think the single most popular backstage rumor is that so-and-so and what's-her-name were "really doing it".
To add to the list: they say Harvey Keitel was indiscreet on the set of Eyes Wide Shut.
Brian
Your Pal Brian
> They're so real and so explicit these days that it has left me
> wondering that *if* they weren't real, how in the world could 2 actors
> get up and walk away after the sexual moves they've pretended to make?
According to Michael Douglas on Inside the Actor's Studio, it's choreographed
just like a fight scene: you yank this, then I'll squeeze that, then we'll
roll over there, and so forth. Quite dispassionate. After all, every angle
is a new set up; the actors get their makeup retouched while the DP moves
lights, the sound guy checks things, etc. Hard to maintain a mood that long.
(Or anything else, for that matter.)
Brian
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Lincoln Spector wrote:
>>Oddly enough, I too have been questioning sex scenes lately in today's
>>movies. I'm talking ordinary movies, not porno types.
>>
>>They're so real and so explicit these days that it has left me
>>wondering that *if* they weren't real, how in the world could 2 actors
>>get up and walk away after the sexual moves they've pretended to make?
>
> The same way they get up from doing a death scene, or a scene where they
> break down and cry. It's their job, and they're good at it.
>
> Over and over I've heard actors say that sex scenes are extremely unerotic
> to shoot. You're naked in front of all these people. There are bright
> lights. You have to make your marks and recite your dialog. And then do take
> after take. Then move the camera and do take after take, again.
How about an even more delicate (no pun intended) issue:
Let's say there's a movie which calls for an actor and actress who
aren't in a real-life relationship, to undress and perform simulated sex
on camera. And during it, the actress notices that the actor is
getting, uh, aroused. OK, he's getting a sizable erection.
What does she do? Stop the scene?
Stephen Cooke
There was a sex scene in the film about French biker boys La Vie de Jesus
(by the guy who make L'Humanite) that *looked* pretty real, as did the
scenes in L'Humanite, come to think of it. Nasty, brutish and short, just
like in real life.
And, while we're on the topic of French films, there's always Romance.
swac
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As far as the "Boxcar Bertha" story goes, Carradine and Hershey (who
were living together and going through an extreme "non-conformist"
phase that should bother both of them today -- they named their child
"Free" and she took the last name "Seagull" for a time) did a photo
shoot for Playboy and claimed that they were actually having sex
during that photo session. That was enough to get that issue of
Playboy banned in Saskatchewan, although having later seen the issue I
have to say that it isn't really apparent. I've never seen the movie
but what I recall is that it was made fairly clear (in the article)
that they weren't doing it during the movie.
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Brigid Nelson
>>And finally, one wonders if the writer or producer who demands that
>>the sex scenes be added into the movie... just what are his motives,
>>since such explicit sex does not add to the story line.
>
>
> In Louis Malle's "Damage," the intensity of Jeremy Irons' all-consumming
> obsession with Juliet Binoche couldn't be defined on film without their
> explicit sexual encounters. Just showing his jealousy and possessiveness of
> her without the sex wouldn't have sufficed to demonstrate the depth of his
> pain and the price he paid.
>
knew the sex was faked because "Jeremy doesn't
last that long". Make of *that* what you will
brigid
>
Lincoln Spector
>
> Let's say there's a movie which calls for an actor and actress who
> aren't in a real-life relationship, to undress and perform simulated sex
> on camera. And during it, the actress notices that the actor is
> getting, uh, aroused. OK, he's getting a sizable erection.
>
> What does she do? Stop the scene?
actress who has done such scenes.
Keep in mind, btw, that to whatever extent the camera angle allows it,
there's a sheet or something in-between them.
Still, there are some scenes that make me wonder, such as nipple-sucking.
Must seem very strange for the performers' significant others.
Lincoln
Lincoln Spector
I saw a fraction of a second of penetration before the camera panned up.
Since it was on a CLV laserdisc, I couldn't freezeframe or slow-mo, so I'm
not sure.
Lincoln
Lincoln Spector
> (by the guy who make L'Humanite) that *looked* pretty real, as did the
> scenes in L'Humanite, come to think of it. Nasty, brutish and short, just
> like in real life.
(Please note: This is in jest. I am not seriously suggesting that someone I
don't know has a lousy sex life.)
Lincoln
Vince
kath...@yahoo.com (kathy) writes:
>
>Showing my age here but it's been said that Donald Sutherland and
>Julie Christie in "Don't Look Now" were actually having sex in that
>film. Think Maud Adams sued Bruce Dern over "accidentally" penetrating
>her in some 70's movie that I can't for the life of me recall just now
>:(.
"Tattoo" was the name, never understood why Maud's character did what she did
at the end of the film.
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> Let's say there's a movie which calls for an actor and actress who
> aren't in a real-life relationship, to undress and perform simulated sex
> on camera. And during it, the actress notices that the actor is
> getting, uh, aroused. OK, he's getting a sizable erection.
>
> What does she do? Stop the scene?
George C. Scott was once required to shoot a love scene with a certain
voluptuous actress. "I apologize if I get an erection," he said, getting
into bed. "And I apologize if I don't."
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Grand Inquisitor
> George C. Scott was once required to shoot a love scene with a certain
> voluptuous actress. "I apologize if I get an erection," he said, getting
> into bed. "And I apologize if I don't."
>
> <http://www.anecdotage.com/index.php?aid=1740>
>
Cute, but probably UL, since no movie or actress was named.
Stephen Cooke
Oops, walked into that one...guess I should have used the dreaded smiley.
I was *generalizing*.
swac
I think I was channeling an old Woody Allen comedy routine.
Grand Inquisitor
Yeah, but in what scene would he have been indiscreet? He was playing
the role Sidney Pollack took over.
rande...@rrogers.com
wrote:
Her perforance in the movie, "Entity" was more exploited, but the
movie was a pretty interesting ghost story.
-Rich
Jim
>
> There was a sex scene in the film about French biker boys La Vie de Jesus
> (by the guy who make L'Humanite) that *looked* pretty real, as did the
> scenes in L'Humanite, come to think of it. Nasty, brutish and short, just
> like in real life.
As opposed to "l'Humanite" which was ugly, boring and long.
ahollis
Bertha" Playboy article by both of the actors saying that they did have
actual sex during the shooting of the movie's sex scene. The photo layout
was stills shot from the photographer on the set. The movie is out on DVD
and I must agree that I can not tell if there was actual penetration.
There is a story about and actor in the film "The Godson," one of those
sleazy 70's Box Office International releases, that got so worked up that he
actually went through with the act. The story goes that you can see the
surprise look on the girls face when he penetrates her. To her great acting
ability, it did nothing to phase her and she keep right on playing her part,
a slut. The film is on DVD from Image.
As far as the George C. Scott UL on apologizing for getting or not getting
an erection, I believe that the film was "Petulia" and the actress was Julie
Christie.
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Steven D. Litvintchouk
Lincoln Spector wrote:
>>Oddly enough, I too have been questioning sex scenes lately in today's
>>movies. I'm talking ordinary movies, not porno types.
>>
>>They're so real and so explicit these days that it has left me
>>wondering that *if* they weren't real, how in the world could 2 actors
>>get up and walk away after the sexual moves they've pretended to make?
>
> The same way they get up from doing a death scene, or a scene where they
> break down and cry. It's their job, and they're good at it.
>
> Over and over I've heard actors say that sex scenes are extremely unerotic
> to shoot. You're naked in front of all these people. There are bright
> lights. You have to make your marks and recite your dialog. And then do take
> after take. Then move the camera and do take after take, again.
>
>
>>And then.... doesn't this very real pretension of sex, assuming its
>>pretension or simulation make you wonder about the so called phrase "I
>>can't stop" that teenages and some men make, when they take the
>>situation to a near or actual rape?
>
> No. For the reasons above.
>
> Think of what would happen to an actor who turned a simulated sex scene into
> a real rape--in front of a lot of people and being recorded on film. His
> entire life would be ruined.
>
>
>>Further, whether real or simulated, since its so graphic, so
>>explicit... one gets to wondering about the crew that's filming these
>>scenes. How are they reacting to this?
>
> "When's the next coffee break?" "Am I getting overtime pay yet?"
For the movie "Progeny," Jillian McWhirter later admitted that one of
the sound boom mike guys actually got aroused while they were filming
the monster rape scene in which she seems to get turned on. He was so
embarrassed he had to leave the set momentarily.
Steven D. Litvintchouk
ahollis wrote:
> I hate to disagree with anyone in this group, but I remember the "Boxcar
> Bertha" Playboy article by both of the actors saying that they did have
> actual sex during the shooting of the movie's sex scene. The photo layout
> was stills shot from the photographer on the set. The movie is out on DVD
> and I must agree that I can not tell if there was actual penetration.
>
> There is a story about and actor in the film "The Godson," one of those
> sleazy 70's Box Office International releases, that got so worked up that he
> actually went through with the act. The story goes that you can see the
> surprise look on the girls face when he penetrates her. To her great acting
> ability, it did nothing to phase her....
Even by the standards of 30 years ago, that's actual rape.
Shawn50273
Chloe Sevigny performs 10 minutes of what looks to be real oral sex on co-star
Vincent Gallo (who also--surprise, surprise-- directed). I say "what looks to
be real" because she could easily be working a prosthetic. Either way, the
film was jeered by the audience and slammed by critics as representing the
ultimate in self-indulgence.
--------
Shawn
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The Avocado Avenger
>On 24 Aug 2003 22:05:18 -0700, kilro...@catlover.com (Kilroy Bass)
>wrote:
>>Grand Inquisitor <zo...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:<yze2b.30498$dO2....@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...
>>> Okay, get your giggles out. I'm not asking about porno, but I read an
>>> interview with an actress, Mira Sorvino I think, and she confirmed the
>>> rumor that some sex scenes in major Hollywood movies are genuine. This,
>>> frankly, disturbed and disgusted me.
>>
>>Rumor had it that Kris Kristofferson and Sarah Miles had real sex in
>>"Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea, The" (1976)
>I heard that the main characters in The Lover had real sex too.
Not so's you'd notice it. The hype was much more erotic than the actual
movie, if memory serves. There's nothing in the film to make me suspect
there was "real sex" going on. Perhaps there's an uncut version lurking
around somewhere, but I doubt it.
I will never forget the interview Jennifer Tilly gave for some
entertainment show, after shooting "Bound". Everyone was asking her, of
course, about the sex scene. She said it's about the least erotic thing
you can do in front of a camera - everyone's watching, crew members off
camera are eating tuna salad and scratching themselves, as the camera went
around them the director would yell "wall!" to put the walls back to
create the illusion... and that was convincing to me. Sure, there may be
some non-porno sex scenes which are real, but there's probably very very
few of them in mainstream cinema.
* * *
Stacia * sta...@theworld.com * The Avocado Avenger (dec'd)
"I currently have 236 wieners in my freezers."
RogerM
> I will never forget the interview Jennifer Tilly gave for some
> entertainment show, after shooting "Bound". Everyone was asking her, of
> course, about the sex scene. She said it's about the least erotic thing
> you can do in front of a camera - everyone's watching, crew members off
> camera are eating tuna salad and scratching themselves, as the camera went
> around them the director would yell "wall!" to put the walls back to
> create the illusion... and that was convincing to me. Sure, there may be
> some non-porno sex scenes which are real, but there's probably very very
> few of them in mainstream cinema.
>
> * * *
> Stacia * sta...@theworld.com * The Avocado Avenger (dec'd)
> "I currently have 236 wieners in my freezers."
"eating tuna salad"
That says it all.
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<rodger...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>The Avocado Avenger wrote:
>
>> I will never forget the interview Jennifer Tilly gave for some
>> entertainment show, after shooting "Bound". Everyone was asking her, of
>> course, about the sex scene. She said it's about the least erotic thing
>> you can do in front of a camera - everyone's watching, crew members off
>> camera are eating tuna salad and scratching themselves, as the camera went
>> around them the director would yell "wall!" to put the walls back to
>> create the illusion... and that was convincing to me. Sure, there may be
>> some non-porno sex scenes which are real, but there's probably very very
>> few of them in mainstream cinema.
>
>"eating tuna salad"
>
>That says it all.
Not all. We seem to have conflicting ideas on the effect of sex
scenes on the crews' susceptible libidos. Let's go to the DVD
commentaries (said with a Warner Wolf inflection):
Alan Parker (from The Life of David Gale DVD, on sex scenes in
general): "It's amazing how unsexy it is when you're shooting
it...they're very rarely sexually titillating for a crew- standing
around eating their bacon rolls, rather yawning at what they're
looking at..." One for Stacia- except for the crew's choice of snack.
Parker does say that he tries to minimize the crew for these shoots to
make the actors feel more comfortable. Paul Schrader says basically
the same thing on the Forever Mine commentary (though replace Parker's
refined British accent with Schrader's incredible hoarseness- he
sounds like he just gargled with gravel).
Then there's the New Best Friend director's commentary, on which Zoe
Clarke-Williams claims that *all* the males on the crew- even those
not scheduled- showed up bright and chipper the day they shot the
makeout scene between Dominique Swain and Mia Kirshner. So
apparently, when it comes to teen lesbian sex, the rules dont apply.
She also impishly recounts that, in order to make the scene look more
natural, she had the two actresses over to her house several times for
practice sessions, which she would tape on a DV camera. I wonder how
much those home videos would sell for at a geek convention.
(I'm also wondering if I could have picked three worse movies to draw
from? Yikes.)
Grand Inquisitor
Funny that a bunch of a libs at the Cannes film festival would condemn
self-indulgence. I guess they were still hurting over Gallo's remark
that Sundance is where the "commie films" are.
Jim Beaver
> MadMichael wrote:
> > George C. Scott was once required to shoot a love scene with a certain
> > voluptuous actress. "I apologize if I get an erection," he said, getting
> > into bed. "And I apologize if I don't."
> >
> > <http://www.anecdotage.com/index.php?aid=1740>
> >
>
> Cute, but probably UL, since no movie or actress was named.
Jeff Bridges said he says that to every actress he does a sex scene with.
Only he says "get aroused."
Jim Beaver
Vince
<zo...@columbus.rr.com> writes:
>
>Funny that a bunch of a libs at the Cannes film festival would condemn
>self-indulgence. I guess they were still hurting over Gallo's remark
>that Sundance is where the "commie films" are.
>
OH Give it a rest! You righter-wingers are something else, someone disagrees
with you they're commies.
Vince
Grand Inquisitor
> In article <MmN2b.83193$hc....@fe3.columbus.rr.com>, Grand Inquisitor
> <zo...@columbus.rr.com> writes:
>
>
>>Funny that a bunch of a libs at the Cannes film festival would condemn
>>self-indulgence. I guess they were still hurting over Gallo's remark
>>that Sundance is where the "commie films" are.
>>
>
>
> OH Give it a rest! You righter-wingers are something else, someone disagrees
> with you they're commies.
>
Actually I was quoting Gallo, who I doubt could be called a
right-winger. At best he'd be a libertarian.
Lincoln Spector
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Guthrie says that when your in bed with a beautiful naked woman, you get
aroused, even with the camera crew, etc. But, of course, he wasn't a
professional actor.
Lincoln
Lincoln Spector
> > sleazy 70's Box Office International releases, that got so worked up
that he
> > actually went through with the act. The story goes that you can see the
> > surprise look on the girls face when he penetrates her. To her great
acting
> > ability, it did nothing to phase her....
>
> Even by the standards of 30 years ago, that's actual rape.
Lincoln
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Lincoln Spector wrote:
And he obviously wouldn't be one of the millions of American men who
need Viagra either.
Guthrie should speak for himself.
DESSCRIBE1
>voluptuous actress. "I apologize if I get an erection," he said, getting
>into bed. "And I apologize if I don't."
>
><http://www.anecdotage.com/index.php?aid=1740>
I vaguely remember reading an anecdote from Eric Bogosian in which he
reminisced about filming his first nude scene, in the 1984 movie "Special
Effects." After getting in bed with the equally nude actress, Zoe Tamerlis,
Bogosian suddenly found himself getting an erection. He apologized for his
unintentional physical reaction, but she was not too receptive to his apology.
Erich
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shot 60 feet, while handcuffed to a live alligator...AND...I will act...like a
BABY!" - Fritz the Evil Butler
Steven D. Litvintchouk
DESSCRIBE1 wrote:
>>George C. Scott was once required to shoot a love scene with a certain
>>voluptuous actress. "I apologize if I get an erection," he said, getting
>>into bed. "And I apologize if I don't."
>>
>><http://www.anecdotage.com/index.php?aid=1740>
>
>
> I vaguely remember reading an anecdote from Eric Bogosian in which he
> reminisced about filming his first nude scene, in the 1984 movie "Special
> Effects." After getting in bed with the equally nude actress, Zoe Tamerlis,
> Bogosian suddenly found himself getting an erection. He apologized for his
> unintentional physical reaction, but she was not too receptive to his apology.
Yep. With your description, I was able to google to find it. Here it is:
http://lundissimo.info/Zoe/filmvid/splefx/bogosian_letter.html
Well, it's beginning to look like inadvertent arousal happens more
frequently than I had imagined.
Maybe directors should tactfully suggest to actors (especially the less
experienced ones) that they go to the men's room and ejaculate just
prior to doing the sex scene. That might help reduce the chances of
getting aroused while doing the scene.
Due to union problems, it might be more difficult to suggest this to the
crew. Especially if they're Teamsters. :-)
Dawn Taylor
<sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> announced in front of God and
everybody:
>
>Lincoln Spector wrote:
>> In his commentary on the Alice's Restaurant DVD, during the sex scene, Arlo
>> Guthrie says that when your in bed with a beautiful naked woman, you get
>> aroused, even with the camera crew, etc. But, of course, he wasn't a
>> professional actor.
>
>And he obviously wouldn't be one of the millions of American men who
>need Viagra either.
Despite the pharmaceutical company's vigorous ad campaign, I doubt
that millions of American men actually *need* Viagra. Just because you
don't get an erection at the drop of a hat like when you were 17 --
and just because your doctor's willing to prescribe and instant
hard-on drug -- doesn't mean you have honest-to-God sexual dysfunction
that requires special medication.
Not that any of this has to do with the subject at hand, either.
Dawn
Vince
<zo...@columbus.rr.com> writes:
>
>Actually I was quoting Gallo, who I doubt could be called a
>right-winger. At best he'd be a libertarian.
My error.
Nick Macpherson
>> In article <MmN2b.83193$hc....@fe3.columbus.rr.com>, Grand Inquisitor
>> <zo...@columbus.rr.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>>Funny that a bunch of a libs at the Cannes film festival would condemn
>>>self-indulgence. I guess they were still hurting over Gallo's remark
>>>that Sundance is where the "commie films" are.
>>>
>>
>>
>> OH Give it a rest! You righter-wingers are something else, someone
>disagrees
>> with you they're commies.
>>
>
>Actually I was quoting Gallo, who I doubt could be called a
>right-winger. At best he'd be a libertarian.
Or a Satanist. His elderly sidekick in putting the death curse on Roger Ebert,
Kenneth Anger, most certainly is a Satanist. It's a wonderful world we live in
when a good Christian lad like GI throws a compliment in the direction of
someone who put a Satanic curse on Roger Ebert so he'd die of cancer for
panning Brown Bunny..
Grand Inquisitor
When did I complement Gallo? Just because I poo-pooed the poops who
poo-pooed Gallo doesn't mean I'm defending him or complementing him. If
I criticize, say, Larry Flynt for condemning the Islamic treatment of
women, I'm sure as heck not defending radical Muslims.
ANIM8Rfsk
<< I hate to disagree with anyone in this group, but I remember the "Boxcar
Bertha" Playboy article by both of the actors saying that they did have
actual sex during the shooting of the movie's sex scene. >>
They said they did on the Merv Griffen show as well, of all places. Merv was
shocked, shocked I tell you!
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in my day, unfilmable acts. I never could tell if Maruschka Detmers was
performing oral sex on an actual penis or an artificial one, though (in
"Devil in the Flesh").
Ah, those ground-breaking Europeans!
Dean
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moviePig
>> Okay, get your giggles out. I'm not asking about porno, but I read an
>> interview with an actress, Mira Sorvino I think, and she confirmed the
>> rumor that some sex scenes in major Hollywood movies are genuine. This,
>> thinks it's true, and what movies it might have been in? I haven't seen
>> it (and don't want to see it, since Billy Bob Thorton makes me heave),
>> but many have said they thought the controversial sex scene in Monster's
>> Ball was real. Thoughts?
>> "Get rid of the Range Rover. You are not responsible for patrolling
>> Australia's Dingo Barrier Fence, nor do you work the Savannah, capturing
>> and tagging wildebeests."
>> --Michael J. Nelson
>>
>> Grand Inquisitor
>> http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollection.asp?alias=Oost
>
Not visibly in the final cut, iirc. However, as far as
otherwise-respected directors go, there's Michael Winterbottom's 9 SONGS...
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anim8rFSK
Bertha was real. Bruce Dern said it about Tattoo and Maude Adams ...
wasn't impressed.
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> David Carradine and Barbara Hershey always claimed the sex in Boxcar
> Bertha was real. Bruce Dern said it about Tattoo and Maude Adams ...
> wasn't impressed.
>
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> On 1/29/2015 11:07 AM, madar...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 10:32:13 PM UTC-4, Grand Inquisitor wrote:
> >> Okay, get your giggles out. I'm not asking about porno, but I read an
> >> interview with an actress, Mira Sorvino I think, and she confirmed the
> >> rumor that some sex scenes in major Hollywood movies are genuine. This,
> >> frankly, disturbed and disgusted me. I was wondering if anybody else
> >> thinks it's true, and what movies it might have been in? I haven't seen
> >> it (and don't want to see it, since Billy Bob Thorton makes me heave),
> >> but many have said they thought the controversial sex scene in Monster's
> >> Ball was real. Thoughts?
> >> --
> >> "Get rid of the Range Rover. You are not responsible for patrolling
> >> Australia's Dingo Barrier Fence, nor do you work the Savannah, capturing
> >> and tagging wildebeests."
> >> --Michael J. Nelson
> >>
> >> Grand Inquisitor
> >> http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollection.asp?alias=Oost
> >
> > In Ang Lee's LUST, CAUTION, the two leads, Tony Leung Chiu Wai and what's-her-name, supposedly had real penetration.
>
> Not visibly in the final cut, iirc.
Mack A. Damia
wrote:
Bunny" (2003). She may have swallowed, too.
http://www.traileraddict.com/the-brown-bunny/blow-job-scene
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>
> http://www.traileraddict.com/the-brown-bunny/blow-job-scene
he and Gallo made up. And, if you can somehow ignore its liberties,
it's not terrible.
moviePig
Maybe nobody says no to Ang Lee. Otoh, these sorts of rumors seem
always to abound, and are seldom discouraged -- at least until the
movie's made its dough. First one I remember was Elliott Gould worrying
that Ingmar Bergman would make him do the nasty...
