did dave clark music copy the beatles or develop their own style?
far out right
did dave clark five copy the beatles or come up with their own sound?
and, how come dave clark five failed to evolve into a more
sophisticated, mature band?
they started out really good, only few notches below that of the
beatles.
Scrinine
I thought the DC5 were great when they had the rompin', stompin', "Joe
Meeks" sound on "Bits and Pieces" and "Glad all Over". Joe Meeks (I
think) was the guy who produced "Telstar" and the Honeycombs "Have I
the Right", I don't know if he produced the DC5, tho'.
Scrinine
BJB
I have two possible explainations about why they sound similar (even though
i don't think "Glad All Over" or "Bits and Pieces" or "Any Way You Want It"
or "Because" etc. sounded anything like the Beatles)
1) They had similar musical influences. They both started out as "skiffle"
(not sure about spelling) bands. They both liked American Rock & Roll (Chuck
Berry, Little Richard, the King).
2) The Beatles failed to impress Decca. After hearing some of the Decca
demos I don't blame Decca. They didn't sound like the Beatles we have come
to know and love. Anyway, they got a recording contract with EMI with George
Martin as producer. The first thing George did was to sit the Beatles down
and play an acetate demo named "How Do You Do It" recorded by the Dave Clark
Five. George said "THIS is how I want you to sound", and the rest is
history!
I use theory #2 on musical snobs who put down the DC5.
BJB
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Clark Besch
I have loved the DC5 and Beatles from day one and I see not much
comparison in the two. The Beatles did all kinds of music, the DC5
(outside of "Because") were mostly stompin rock n roll. Sure they did
covers a lot, but they also wrote some of the best 2 minute rock I've
ever heard. "Anyway You Want It" alone should have them in the Rock N
Roll Hall of Sham! I'd say "Fame", but that whole thing is a JOKE.
Clark
Tom Hartman
DC5 a very underrated group. Very Beatle-esque at times, but within
their own framework of sound. Mike Smith one of rock's great lead
vocalists. Agree ..."Anyway You Want It" was power pop long before
there was power pop. One of the best pop tunes of the decade. They
filled their albums with great little melodies too....like "Mighty
Good Lovin".....very much the tunesmiths these guys. Adventurous
too...."Try Too Hard".....ah, I'm babbling now. Really like the DC5.
;)
BJB
wife couldn't attend and I ask my co-workers if they wanted to go. One
co-worker and his wife said that they would go with me. They were both
decades younger than me, told my that they were great fans of the "PUNK"
music, but the went with anyway.
About 1/2 way through Mike Smith's concert., my co-worker's wife was up and
dancing to "Glad All Over" and "Bits and Pieces" and "Any Way You Want It"
She was amazed the this old guy would play these Punk anthems. I got a kick
when I informed her that "This is Mike Smith, he WROTE these songs"
Bottom line, there is a whole genre of music that has it's origins to the
Dave Clark Five. The Rock & Roll Hall of Shame (I can thing of another SH
word that applies here) ignores the DC5's influence.
What a pity.
BJB
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> The Rock & Roll Hall of Shame (I can thing of another SH
> word that applies here) ignores the DC5's influence.
>
> What a pity.
It might help their cause if there was SOMETHING in print...
How can they hope to have their music "re-evaluated" or become less
"underated" when their work is unavailable?
Stephen Cooke
There was a 20-track best-of put out a number of years ago, but for some
reason, many reviewers only got a five-track sampler disc, so it probably
didn't get that many reviews or media attention.
swac
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Jake
years than any other Brit Invasion band but in 66-67 the Beatles left
all the other "Mersey Sound" bands scratching their heads and
wondering what planet the Beatles were now hailing from.
Dudeboy
'Anyway You Want It' is one of my favorite songs of all time.
Comparing The DC5 to The Beatles is unfair. No British group can be
comapared to The Beatles in a fair manner. John Lennon and Paul
McCartney were talent unlimited. George Harrison and Ringo Starr
could have been replaced with any good bassist or drummer. But they
are part of the legend of The Beatles.
GN
Davepitt11
>
Not on all songs. Paul did some excellent guitar and drum work with the
Beatles. The guitar solo in Taxman is Paul as are the drums on The Ballad of
John and Yoko. Paul also has one of the leads on The End. He was probably the
best guitar player in the band.
how...@brazee.net
On 16-May-2004, davep...@aol.comkoivu (Davepitt11) wrote:
> Not on all songs. Paul did some excellent guitar and drum work with the
> Beatles. The guitar solo in Taxman is Paul as are the drums on The Ballad
> of John and Yoko. Paul also has one of the leads on The End. He was
> probably the best guitar player in the band.
Who was the best drummer?
Stephen Cooke
No, Who's on first.
swac
Keith Moon was the best drummer!
Richard Schultz
Although there once was an album entitled "Best of the Beatles." It
didn't actually have any Beatles music on it -- it was a collection of
tracks featuring Pete Best. . .
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JSTONE9352
>> > Beatles.
I heard that he also played drums on
"Back in the USSR".
Stephen Cooke
I heard the Walrus was Paul.
swac
Tryin' to make a dovetail joint.
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I heard Honey Pie is Abby Road backwards.
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On Wed, 19 May 2004, Joyeux Chanson wrote:
> "Stephen Cooke" <am...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> : On 19 May 2004, JSTONE9352 wrote:
> :
> : > > Not on all songs. Paul did some excellent guitar and drum work with
> the
> : > >> > Beatles.
> : >
> : > I heard that he also played drums on
> : > "Back in the USSR".
> :
> : I heard the Walrus was Paul.
> :
> : swac
> : Tryin' to make a dovetail joint.
>
> I heard Honey Pie is Abby Road backwards.
I prefer Abby Normal.
swac
rich tintera
> Dave Clark produced the DC5.
>
> I have two possible explainations about why they sound similar (even though
> i don't think "Glad All Over" or "Bits and Pieces" or "Any Way You Want It"
> or "Because" etc. sounded anything like the Beatles)
>
> 1) They had similar musical influences. They both started out as "skiffle"
> (not sure about spelling) bands. They both liked American Rock & Roll (Chuck
> Berry, Little Richard, the King).
>
> 2) The Beatles failed to impress Decca. After hearing some of the Decca
> demos I don't blame Decca. They didn't sound like the Beatles we have come
> to know and love. Anyway, they got a recording contract with EMI with George
> Martin as producer. The first thing George did was to sit the Beatles down
> and play an acetate demo named "How Do You Do It" recorded by the Dave Clark
> Five. George said "THIS is how I want you to sound", and the rest is
> history!
The way I heard it was, George Martin brought them that song and
wanted them to record it. They thought it was not their kind of
material. The song was subsequently recorded by Gerry and the
Pacemakers.The Beatles had already honed most of their sound in
Hamburg, and then at the Cavern.
Rich
Vince Macek
He did lead guitar on some of the 'Help' songs too, right?
I'd never put George in 'also with' status; he wrote some beautiful songs.
VMacek
Steve and/or Donna
pretty solid songs early on, but when the music changed in the mid 60's they
couldn't make the transition. It would be like the Beatles redoing Hard
Day's Night for 5 more LP's after Help. It shows where the Beatles would
have been in the rock spectrum had they not grown so drastically as artists.
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